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(Slate)   You ever notice how American parents raise their children like THIS, but parents from all other countries raise their children like THIS?   (slate.com) divider line 14
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2013-04-10 08:01:47 PM
3 votes:
The writing style is awkward and dull. I'd rather read freshman term papers.
2013-04-10 08:00:00 PM
2 votes:
I suspect this thread will be full of projection with a good dose of proclamations about how they "are different".
2013-04-11 08:28:50 AM
1 votes:
You know who else is a child-rearing expert named Harkness?

berkeleyplacecomics.files.wordpress.com

Trivia Note: Russel T Davies named Jack Harkness after her.
2013-04-10 08:19:44 PM
1 votes:

lostcat: My wife has a completely different cultural background from mine, but I haven't noticed too many differences in how we think about, and raise, our kid.

Interesting article, but it in practice it seems irrelevant.


Well, it's a little overgeneralized, but it's kind of relevant in that Americans (I don't know about other cultures) who do care about child-rearing practices, are inordinately obsessed with improving their kids' intelligence. It's why you get crap like "Baby Mozart" and "Baby Einstein" to boost the little brats' IQ still in the womb, and all kinds of videos guaranteed to have them reading and writing even before they're potty-trained. There's been all kinds of different theories over the years that babies could really communicate (not just one type of cry means I'm wet and one means I want to be picked up) as early as 3 months and you could teach them sign language or even words or picture charts, depending on the psychologist.

Actual PROOF for these theories is always thin on the ground, of course; but that doesn't stop a subset of US parents from latching onto it in the quest to make their babies smarter than anyone else's. Before that was "enriched environments" when every toddler had more toys than a Toys-R-Us store, and the Sesame Street/Electric Co. era, and so forth.

Then there's the flip side, where parents of mentally disabled kids desperately want their kids to be at least as smart as everyone else, even if there's no possible chance of that. To the point you have parents of profoundly retarded children demanding their kids get advanced math and English classes. I don't know if this is a US thing, but it seems to be related to the "every kid must go to college" school of thought.
2013-04-10 08:17:52 PM
1 votes:

fusillade762: meat0918: I suspect this thread will be full of projection with a good dose of proclamations about how they "are different".

And a heaping helping of "UR DOING IT WRONG".


Of course.  That goes without saying.

Additionally though, for a country that focuses on "intelligence" so much, we sure have a strong streak of anti-intellectualism here.

I wonder how the descriptions of intelligence that is sought after in our kids vary across our country.
2013-04-10 08:17:30 PM
1 votes:

lostcat: vudukungfu: Here's your I-Phone, you I-Pad, and I just out Sponge bob on the 95" flat screen for you baby, and here's the remote, and here's your pizza and Monster drink, and stop kicking the dog, honey, and her's your chips, and try to eat your carrots bleached in bleach this time, honey, and, no, you aren't gonna get a shot with them other kids termorrah, 'cause that causes oughtizm amd ADHDHDs and Assburner's sindrim, an' please stop kickin' th' dawg, honeychild, and here's a X-box in case ta git boreded.
Now let mommy go upstairs ith "uncle Buck" fer awhile and please stop kickin' the dawg.

Do people who talk like that really have the ability to get iPhones and iPads for their kids?


No, Uncle Buck buys these things while Daddy is workin the mines.
2013-04-10 08:14:36 PM
1 votes:

swingerofbirches: I recently took a development psychology class from a newly graduated psychologist (she graduated from a really low-tier school) who had super dogmatic views.

Anyhow, when it came to daycare, she was a hardliner in agreeing with our textbook that daycare did not negatively affect children as long as they had "quality" attachment with their parents. I pushed the issue a bit and asked if there was any minimum amount of time a parent would have to spend with their children to achieve this quality connection, but she insisted there wasn't.

I was interested to see Sweden's focus on happiness and security. Sweden is a country you might typically associate as being further to the left of women's views on careers/raising a family, but in my experience, it's not true. They do have universal daycare in Sweden, but they're neighborhood based, and in my experience aren't used as much. Plus they have super long maternity and paternity leave and lots of time off in the summer and holidays to be with kids.They definitely value down time/family time. Of course, this is all anecdotal. I grew up in both Sweden and US, so just my observations.


They also respect and value education in a way that the US doesn't.
2013-04-10 08:11:28 PM
1 votes:
I recently took a development psychology class from a newly graduated psychologist (she graduated from a really low-tier school) who had super dogmatic views.

Anyhow, when it came to daycare, she was a hardliner in agreeing with our textbook that daycare did not negatively affect children as long as they had "quality" attachment with their parents. I pushed the issue a bit and asked if there was any minimum amount of time a parent would have to spend with their children to achieve this quality connection, but she insisted there wasn't.

I was interested to see Sweden's focus on happiness and security. Sweden is a country you might typically associate as being further to the left of women's views on careers/raising a family, but in my experience, it's not true. They do have universal daycare in Sweden, but they're neighborhood based, and in my experience aren't used as much. Plus they have super long maternity and paternity leave and lots of time off in the summer and holidays to be with kids.They definitely value down time/family time. Of course, this is all anecdotal. I grew up in both Sweden and US, so just my observations.
2013-04-10 08:11:20 PM
1 votes:

vudukungfu: Here's your I-Phone, you I-Pad, and I just out Sponge bob on the 95" flat screen for you baby, and here's the remote, and here's your pizza and Monster drink, and stop kicking the dog, honey, and her's your chips, and try to eat your carrots bleached in bleach this time, honey, and, no, you aren't gonna get a shot with them other kids termorrah, 'cause that causes oughtizm amd ADHDHDs and Assburner's sindrim, an' please stop kickin' th' dawg, honeychild, and here's a X-box in case ta git boreded.
Now let mommy go upstairs ith "uncle Buck" fer awhile and please stop kickin' the dawg.


Do people who talk like that really have the ability to get iPhones and iPads for their kids?
2013-04-10 08:07:16 PM
1 votes:
Here's your I-Phone, you I-Pad, and I just out Sponge bob on the 95" flat screen for you baby, and here's the remote, and here's your pizza and Monster drink, and stop kicking the dog, honey, and her's your chips, and try to eat your carrots bleached in bleach this time, honey, and, no, you aren't gonna get a shot with them other kids termorrah, 'cause that causes oughtizm amd ADHDHDs and Assburner's sindrim, an' please stop kickin' th' dawg, honeychild, and here's a X-box in case ta git boreded.
Now let mommy go upstairs ith "uncle Buck" fer awhile and please stop kickin' the dawg.
2013-04-10 08:04:34 PM
1 votes:
My wife has a completely different cultural background from mine, but I haven't noticed too many differences in how we think about, and raise, our kid.

Interesting article, but it in practice it seems irrelevant.
2013-04-10 08:00:48 PM
1 votes:
"Look at this wonderful calculus primer Santa got you for Christmas."

"You don't need an allowance or a job. Tell us what you need and we'll totally buy it for you."

"You really don't need to start dating until you finish a PhD."

"I don't care what you want to do in life, just be happy. Also, when are you going to take the LSAT again?"

/immigrant parents
//fark is not your personal shrink
2013-04-10 07:59:46 PM
1 votes:
It's almost as if parents who don't obsess about raising perfect kids somehow manage to raise almost-perfect kids. As if it happens easier the less you try.
2013-04-10 07:52:25 PM
1 votes:
I thought that whole "quality time" bs was tossed out years ago. It's quantity time, people.
 
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