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(11 Alive) NewsFlash Gunman holding firefighters hostage releases one but four continue to be held outside Atlanta. Link goes to story with link to live coverage. UPDATE from article: Suspect is dead, hostages are okay   (11alive.com) divider line 294
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2013-04-10 07:18:29 PM  

iheartscotch: Meh; if they were responding to a call from a forclosed home; they should have had police go in first. Squatters tend to be of the take hostages, ask questions later kind of people.


How many people would die waiting while they research that?
 
2013-04-10 07:19:25 PM  
"I nicked the census man." "Now, there's a good boy."
 
2013-04-10 07:20:02 PM  

ha-ha-guy: Awesome T-Shirt: The agency I volunteer for is probably the oddest. Police always respond to EMS calls because each ambulance is staffed by 1 medic, so when it comes time to transport the officer has to drive the ambulance.

So what you're saying is I whack some old lady on the back of the head, call 911, act like I'm a good citizen calling in a woman having a heart attack, and wait for my free unattended police cruiser to appear?


I thought policemen worked in pairs. Or is that only on TV?
 
2013-04-10 07:20:10 PM  

dstrick44: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Shadow Blasko: Oh joy... can we go a day without someone snapping?

In a country of over 300 million? No.

This stuff would not even have been reported a few years ago. It's that guns are the new black right now and the news networks have 24 hours to fill that anybody even cares.

When was there ever a time that holding firefighters hostage at gunpoint was not news?


Since Christmas Eve of last year, apparently. See link above.

/although, the article does mention the murderer used a Bushmaster and points out that was the same weapon used in the recent Newtown child murders.
 
2013-04-10 07:20:21 PM  

SubBass49: Seriously...

Attention suicidal dipshiats of America:   FARKING KILL YOURSELVES ALONE IN A DARK BATHROOM LIKE GOD INTENDED.

Enough of this, "I'm gonna take some innocent folks with me" bullshiat.  Swallow a box of rat poison...hang your pathetic self...slit your wrists in the tub, but for GOD'S SAKE DO IT ALONE!!!

NOT WITH YOUR KIDS.
NOT WITH YOUR LOCAL FIREFIGHTERS, PLEASE KILL AS MANY OF THE COPS AS YOU CAN!
NOT WITH YOUR SPOUSE
NOT WITH ANYONE ELSE'S SIGNIFICANT OTHERS

a-farking-lone!!!

 
2013-04-10 07:20:39 PM  

evaned: What kind of lowlife turd dipshiat takes firefighters hostage?


Yeah, this.
 
2013-04-10 07:20:48 PM  
Just wait until the temps soar this summer...
 
2013-04-10 07:20:57 PM  

Canton: I thought policemen worked in pairs. Or is that only on TV?



It depends on the department.  IIRC, members of the LAPD always work in pairs.
 
2013-04-10 07:21:02 PM  
That reporter on the scene really does not like being asked questions. She always seems so put out.
 
2013-04-10 07:21:54 PM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Shadow Blasko: Oh joy... can we go a day without someone snapping?

In a country of over 300 million? No.

This stuff would not even have been reported a few years ago. It's that guns are the new black right now and the news networks have 24 hours to fill that anybody even cares.

Then how come it doesn't happen in other countries?  You know...places where all the crazies aren't heavily armed and there isn't a "gun culture" that encourages them to solve all their problems with their little bang bang toys?

(oops..think i answered my own question....)


You mean like in Norway?
 
2013-04-10 07:22:03 PM  
His demands include a fueled up airplane, a rent subsidized two bedroom, and a pied-a-terre within walking distance of a tastefully inexpensive hoagie shop to be announced.  If he doesn't get results he's going to start throwing in country homes every half hour.
 
2013-04-10 07:22:19 PM  
I'm the wife of a volunteer firefighter and I am not getting a kick out of this.
 
2013-04-10 07:22:47 PM  
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-10 07:22:50 PM  

iheartscotch: I thought so too; but, then they'd have to have a ridiculously high location budget. I'd like to think people aren't that dumb; but, people constantly prove that assumption wrong.


I have a hard time believing that one guy has dealt with all that random crap. My guess is that he's re-enacting a bunch of landlord stories they're getting from all over the place.
 
2013-04-10 07:23:27 PM  

dstrick44: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Shadow Blasko: Oh joy... can we go a day without someone snapping?

In a country of over 300 million? No.

This stuff would not even have been reported a few years ago. It's that guns are the new black right now and the news networks have 24 hours to fill that anybody even cares.

When was there ever a time that holding firefighters hostage at gunpoint was not news?


1972
 
2013-04-10 07:23:30 PM  

Thisbymaster: A Shambling Mound: Thisbymaster: I bet he was the former owner of the house.  But no one is going to blame the banks, nope not one person.

No I'm not going to blame the f*cking bank, you idiot. Sure, it's possible (even likely) this guy's beef has to do with the foreclosure of his home but the bank did not take any hostages. He did.

Regardless of what drove him to them, his actions are his own. Hell, we don't even know why the bank foreclosed on him. You know sometimes they do that because you didn't pay for your f*cking house, not just out of spite or because they had the wrong lot number on some forms.

Do you remember to big to fail?  The banks took the whole USA hostage, all of it.  And no one even went to jail.


Which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with this guy taking a bunch of firefighters hostage. You're tilting at windmills and if we're assuming the foreclosure is a point of contention here, so is he.
 
2013-04-10 07:23:53 PM  
It's disgusting how eager this media outlet is to obey the orders of police and restrict their coverage.
 
2013-04-10 07:24:00 PM  
"Please, send your pictures! We won't publish 'em, though!"
 
2013-04-10 07:24:47 PM  

Canton: ha-ha-guy: Awesome T-Shirt: The agency I volunteer for is probably the oddest. Police always respond to EMS calls because each ambulance is staffed by 1 medic, so when it comes time to transport the officer has to drive the ambulance.

So what you're saying is I whack some old lady on the back of the head, call 911, act like I'm a good citizen calling in a woman having a heart attack, and wait for my free unattended police cruiser to appear?

I thought policemen worked in pairs. Or is that only on TV?


Depends on the agency. Some cars are doubled up depending on how bad the area is, but most ride solo.
 
2013-04-10 07:24:54 PM  

The_Sponge: Canton: I thought policemen worked in pairs. Or is that only on TV?


It depends on the department.  IIRC, members of the LAPD always work in pairs.


I was figuring the place that is so broke they can't field ambulance drivers, likely can't afford to field police in pairs.  One of the first things broke departments seem to do is send people out solo since it halves the payroll costs.
 
2013-04-10 07:25:11 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x637]


Nice neighborhood.
 
2013-04-10 07:25:17 PM  
Is it really a negative to be held outside Atlanta? Who would want to go into Atlanta anyway.
 
2013-04-10 07:26:20 PM  

AndreMA: iheartscotch: Meh; if they were responding to a call from a forclosed home; they should have had police go in first. Squatters tend to be of the take hostages, ask questions later kind of people.

How many people would die waiting while they research that?


They have those records. Some places; police officers can act as process servers, so they put up notices of intent and whatnot. The fire departments tend to use the same database that the police use, so they'd see it was an foreclosed home.

Talk to firefighters; they see some shiat. I know a guy that had to break into a window to do a check on a person. He was lucky he couldn't get the door opened; as it was boobie trapped. The guy had constructed a Rambo-esk man trap.

/ maybe these guys are the exception to the rule.
 
2013-04-10 07:26:44 PM  

AndreMA: It's disgusting how eager this media outlet is to obey the orders of police and restrict their coverage.


Yea I don't like it.  I know why they do it but I still don't like that slope.

Same reason they almost always put the pro-cop spin on almost any story with regards to abuse.
 
2013-04-10 07:26:53 PM  

Chagrin: Is it really a negative to be held outside Atlanta? Who would want to go into Atlanta anyway.


Furthermore... it seems like everywhere in Georgia is outside of Atlanta.
 
2013-04-10 07:27:04 PM  

evaned: What kind of lowlife turd dipshiat takes firefighters hostage?



Seconded.

Mimes, on the other hand.....
 
2013-04-10 07:27:05 PM  

AndreMA: It's disgusting how eager this media outlet is to obey the orders of police and restrict their coverage.


I shudder to think how our free society survived in the era when the only way to get news was wait for the paper the next day.  How we had a free society without the ability to live stream SWAT operations.
 
2013-04-10 07:27:07 PM  

Rhino_man: In before "Gun grabbers don't want to talk about mental health" derpers who never actually propose any changes to the mental health system.


OR they'll propose some labyrinthe and draconian licensing, training, and regulatory regime that they pass off as minor and perfectly reasonable.

If only he had to undergo 2 cat scans, multiple psychological exams,$50/year licensing, fingerprinting, purchase a drill proof, fire proof safe, undergo police academy training, be embedded with the Army for 6 months, get written references from 15 neighbors, and fill out a 20 page life history dossier, none of those would have happened.
 
2013-04-10 07:27:08 PM  

ha-ha-guy: The_Sponge: Canton: I thought policemen worked in pairs. Or is that only on TV?


It depends on the department.  IIRC, members of the LAPD always work in pairs.

I was figuring the place that is so broke they can't field ambulance drivers, likely can't afford to field police in pairs.  One of the first things broke departments seem to do is send people out solo since it halves the payroll costs.


You'll find throughout most of the country, even in some metro areas that police officers often ride solo. Only in big cities or high crime areas are they usually doubled up.
 
2013-04-10 07:27:12 PM  
Here's an interesting idea: if you get the mass shooter(s) alive, don't disclose their name(s) immediately. The only time their name(s) should get disclosed should be after their sentence is passed.

"If you can't be famous, be infamous" is becoming the new American Dream.
 
2013-04-10 07:27:15 PM  
Just tuning in. What did I miss??
 
2013-04-10 07:27:34 PM  

laughin: I'm the wife of a volunteer firefighter and I am not getting a kick out of this.


In this day and age, everybody's spouse and children seem to be at risk of becoming victims of a deranged person 24/7.

Three weeks ago a young girl was shot in the leg with an arrow on the exact play structure my daughter had been playing on only a few days before.

Two days later I was out having dinner with my family when cops pulled over a car across the street, and suddenly they all had their guns drawn because the passanger hand apparently brandished a handgun.

I never imagined myself hiding between parked cars, holding my 2-year-old daugther and trying to pretend we were just playing a game.
 
2013-04-10 07:28:11 PM  

Marine1: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: [pbs.twimg.com image 850x637]

Nice neighborhood.


reminds me of a song
 
2013-04-10 07:30:24 PM  

The_Sponge: It depends on the department.  IIRC, members of the LAPD always work in pairs.


Awesome T-Shirt: Depends on the agency. Some cars are doubled up depending on how bad the area is, but most ride solo.


ha-ha-guy: I was figuring the place that is so broke they can't field ambulance drivers, likely can't afford to field police in pairs.  One of the first things broke departments seem to do is send people out solo since it halves the payroll costs.


Ahh, okay. Makes sense, thanks.

On the other hand, it might be more cost-effective to send a pair of officers in the event of an ambulance run, than to abandon a car somewhere, to be picked up later (which would also require two drivers, one of whom would drop the other off at the scene.)

/Logistics
 
2013-04-10 07:30:59 PM  
I heard this particular lowlife dipshiat turd's big demand is that the utilities be turned back on at his home. Too early to know for sure, but if so jeezus there are more effective ways to do that, Sparky.
 
2013-04-10 07:31:15 PM  
Is it one of those sovereign citizen squatter f*ckheads?
 
2013-04-10 07:32:21 PM  

bulldg4life: I guess I'll be driving a different way home...


Take the detour through Connecticut.  I hear it's safer there.
 
2013-04-10 07:32:39 PM  

balki1867: iheartscotch: I thought so too; but, then they'd have to have a ridiculously high location budget. I'd like to think people aren't that dumb; but, people constantly prove that assumption wrong.

I have a hard time believing that one guy has dealt with all that random crap. My guess is that he's re-enacting a bunch of landlord stories they're getting from all over the place.


There might be some of that; but, if it is real, I imagine that 99% of their cases are solved quickly and in a non-violent manner. We only see the crazy 1%; just like cops.

They are still dumber than a bucket of hammers for not having any sort of backup or street observer. They are even dumber for not contacting the police and telling them, " hey, we're doing X, Y and Z down at the old Jenkens place; wider Jenkens isn't paying her rent again."
 
2013-04-10 07:32:40 PM  
So wait, are they now webcasting the images that they weren't allowed to broadcast on the air?
 
2013-04-10 07:33:22 PM  

lostcat: In other new: Tornados in Arkasnas.


Not really news, but this year's first salvo will be striking near me soon enough. Not really looking forward to it.
 
2013-04-10 07:33:54 PM  
Flash bang possibly let off followed by a series of pops (3-4) possibly gun shots?
 
2013-04-10 07:33:55 PM  

sugarpop: I heard this particular lowlife dipshiat turd's big demand is that the utilities be turned back on at his home. Too early to know for sure, but if so jeezus there are more effective ways to do that, Sparky.


Yeah.  I'm not one to advocate crime, but if you're willing to take firefighters hostage, why not just go steal a lawn mower from home depot in the middle of the night or something if you're that desperate?


----

Update:  sounds like they just went in and wasted him.
 
2013-04-10 07:34:45 PM  
Damn, SWAT went in while I was getting a drink?!
 
2013-04-10 07:35:59 PM  
img1.fark.net "Loud explosion, gunshots"

The bellies of the fat cops are rippling like Jello.
 
2013-04-10 07:36:20 PM  
I'd like to give you something to feel in your body, blondie...If you know what I mean.
 
2013-04-10 07:36:22 PM  

lostcat: Damn, SWAT went in while I was getting a drink?!


Possibly. Media has been moved back.
 
2013-04-10 07:37:17 PM  
Why does the media insist on covering these hostage situations? Why do they hate guns so much? They should just ignore it like REAL Americans do.
 
2013-04-10 07:37:25 PM  

lostcat: I'd like to give you something to feel in your body, blondie...If you know what I mean.


Did I type that out loud?
 
2013-04-10 07:39:33 PM  
Somethings going down - bringing in a bus
 
2013-04-10 07:40:02 PM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: lostcat: In other new: Tornados in Arkasnas.

Not really news, but this year's first salvo will be striking near me soon enough. Not really looking forward to it.


We're getting rocked with thunderstorms here in central Missouri. I'm not enjoying it.
 
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