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2013-04-10 03:53:54 PM
You don't say.
 
2013-04-10 05:40:09 PM
I was guessing Westboro Church of England.
 
2013-04-10 05:41:24 PM
Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing
 
2013-04-10 05:43:00 PM
Well, it is Britain:

i46.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-10 05:47:46 PM

Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing


it is very important to the Torygraph that someone be shamed publicly for this
 
2013-04-10 06:01:00 PM

neenerist: Well, it is Britain:

[i46.tinypic.com image 620x413]


Hard to believe that man is only 27.
 
2013-04-10 06:05:38 PM

Jackson Herring: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

it is very important to the Torygraph that someone be shamed publicly for this


This.
 
2013-04-10 06:07:05 PM

Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing


Teddy Kennedy's springs to mind... I mean at least as far as I know, Margaret Thatcher never abandoned another human being to die.

/waah that's different
 
2013-04-10 06:13:49 PM
Couldn't they just have had a party when she left office? What's the point now?
 
2013-04-10 06:15:25 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

Teddy Kennedy's springs to mind... I mean at least as far as I know, Margaret Thatcher never abandoned another human being to die.

/waah that's different


No, she abandoned way many more than just one. Millions in fact.
 
2013-04-10 06:17:40 PM
Is it the one pictured to the right in "Arrest Records Now Public"?
 
2013-04-10 06:22:41 PM
Dispicable. Wait until after the goddamned funeral at least!

/that movie mocking bush should have waited until he was no longer president at least.
 
2013-04-10 06:29:44 PM

fusillade762: Couldn't they just have had a party when she left office? What's the point now?


Yeah, seriously.

She's been out of power for many decades, and was suffering from crippling dementia for the last ten years. I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--but isn't it a bit late for celebrating? It's not like she's done any harm LATELY that they can be glad she's finally gone.
 
2013-04-10 06:30:36 PM
I'll just leave this here.
 
2013-04-10 06:31:25 PM

fusillade762: Couldn't they just have had a party when she left office? What's the point now?


A conservative out of office doesn't mean their out of power. Case in point: everyone you see on Fox News
 
2013-04-10 06:33:09 PM

Gyrfalcon: She's been out of power for many decades, and was suffering from crippling dementia for the last ten years. I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--but isn't it a bit late for celebrating? It's not like she's done any harm LATELY that they can be glad she's finally gone.


It's more about trying to bury her terrible ideas along with her. That and heading off the kind of whitewashing we saw during the Reagan funeral that contributes to a warped political mythos.
 
2013-04-10 06:35:59 PM
henryhill: No, she abandoned way many more than just one. Millions in fact.

Please specify who.
 
2013-04-10 06:39:40 PM
Her fans are going to cry because she's dead when they should celebrate that she lived.

Her detractors are going to celebrate that she's dead because haters gonna hate.

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-04-10 06:42:12 PM

Jackson Herring: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

it is very important to the Torygraph that someone be shamed publicly for this


Amazing also that an entire national rejection of Thatcher and her policies could be traced to one woman.

I guess social media ARE powerful.
 
2013-04-10 06:43:34 PM

Gyrfalcon: I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--


She didn't do great harm to Britain during her tenure, in fact she did a great deal of good -- as any honest person who experienced the union- caused chaos of the UK in the 1970s could tell you. She managed to get the British economy under some semblance of control, took back the Falklands from imperialist invaders, stood up to the IRA bastards while opening the door to talks with the Republic of Ireland, and empowered working class people by allowing them to buy their council houses. True, she wasn't perfect -- the UK has been in decline for many decades now -- but at least her record was a good deal better than that of many other recent Prime Ministers (Tony Blair, I'm looking at you...)
 
2013-04-10 06:46:22 PM

Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Couldn't they just have had a party when she left office? What's the point now?

Yeah, seriously.

She's been out of power for many decades, and was suffering from crippling dementia for the last ten years. I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--but isn't it a bit late for celebrating? It's not like she's done any harm LATELY that they can be glad she's finally gone.


So there's a statute of limitations on the behavior of politicians?  Funny, just a few years back, I heard Jimmy Carter being blamed for the mortgage bubble/meltdown.
 
2013-04-10 06:47:53 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Gyrfalcon: I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--

She didn't do great harm to Britain during her tenure, in fact she did a great deal of good -- as any honest person who experienced the union- caused chaos of the UK in the 1970s could tell you. She managed to get the British economy under some semblance of control, took back the Falklands from imperialist invaders, stood up to the IRA bastards while opening the door to talks with the Republic of Ireland, and empowered working class people by allowing them to buy their council houses. True, she wasn't perfect -- the UK has been in decline for many decades now -- but at least her record was a good deal better than that of many other recent Prime Ministers (Tony Blair, I'm looking at you...)


but but Reagan?
/You are gonna get killed here. Good luck Bro!
 
2013-04-10 06:48:22 PM
I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.
 
2013-04-10 06:53:08 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

Teddy Kennedy's springs to mind... I mean at least as far as I know, Margaret Thatcher never abandoned another human being to die.

/waah that's different


eh, im not feeling it.

I certainly wouldn't cast stones though. I mean, he was a Kennedy.
 
2013-04-10 06:55:16 PM

henryhill: EvilRacistNaziFascist: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

Teddy Kennedy's springs to mind... I mean at least as far as I know, Margaret Thatcher never abandoned another human being to die.

/waah that's different

No, she abandoned way many more than just one. Millions in fact.


Be fair. She couldn't possibly liberate all of Argentina.
 
2013-04-10 07:07:24 PM

Kibbler: Gyrfalcon: fusillade762: Couldn't they just have had a party when she left office? What's the point now?

Yeah, seriously.

She's been out of power for many decades, and was suffering from crippling dementia for the last ten years. I can appreciate that many people feel she did great harm to Britain during her tenure--but isn't it a bit late for celebrating? It's not like she's done any harm LATELY that they can be glad she's finally gone.

So there's a statute of limitations on the behavior of politicians?  Funny, just a few years back, I heard Jimmy Carter being blamed for the mortgage bubble/meltdown.


Blamed, sure. But having a party because someone who hasn't done anything in years is dead? That would be like throwing a party when Carter dies because of the hostage crisis--"Serves him right! He never did get those hostages released!!"--but they're all okay now--"Yeah, but not then so ha ha!"

Just seems like either a waste of time, or a poor excuse to party.
 
2013-04-10 07:16:13 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: henryhill: No, she abandoned way many more than just one. Millions in fact.

Please specify who.


Yeah. I'm kinda scratching my head on this one. To the best of my knowledge, Maggie may have been a hard-ass unconcerned with the plight of poor impovrished union workers and what not, but I don't think she is responsible for leaving millions to die.

Also, thank God for Margerette Thatcher and the enourmous amount of artistic expression that opposition to her produced. From the Clash, to The Specials, to Pink Floyd, to Alan Moore's V for Vendetta, many of my favorite things were created to biatch about what Maggie was doing to England.

/hell, even recently, Frank Turner's 'Thatcher Fu**ed the Kids' is awesome.
 
2013-04-10 07:20:32 PM

Gyrfalcon: Blamed, sure. But having a party because someone who hasn't done anything in years is dead? That would be like throwing a party when Carter dies because of the hostage crisis--"Serves him right! He never did get those hostages released!!"--but they're all okay now--"Yeah, but not then so ha ha!"


I can't possibly conceive of celebrating the death of another human being, no matter how awful they might have been during their life... whenever horrible people have died I've wished them the same kind of rest after death as I would wish for myself, and forgiveness for their sins if necessary (just as I'd pray the same kind of forgiveness for myself, if it came to that). As Donne said, no man is an island, and every man's death diminishes me.
 
2013-04-10 07:22:44 PM

Gyrfalcon: Just seems like either a waste of time, or a poor excuse to party.


Politics aside, I don't believe there is such a thing.
 
2013-04-10 07:23:38 PM

RINO: I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.


<tongue in cheek>

Thatcher, Thatcher, MILK SNATCHER!!!!

</tongue outta cheek>

Seriously, my opinion on the free milk program/ending free milk program is this:  well meaning liberals, sensing that poor students may not be getting enough nutrition, set up a program for ALL students to get a free glass (1/3 pint) of milk per  school day.  Thatcher, seeing that this was wasteful, eliminated the program in its entirety.  I don't understand why neither side thought about meeting halfway and providing the subsidy on a needs basis.  There was no need to provide everyone with free milk at the beginning of the program, and it would not have hurt to keep a portion of it going at the end.

But for all the squealing, you would have thought that Maggie was personally butchering school children.  If anything, it shows the danger of any government subsidy, no matter who the beneficiary is.  Once it is established, it is politically difficult to eliminate.  Not exactly a subsidy, but the US Postal Service caved on eliminating Saturday service, because of all the caterwauling.
 
2013-04-10 07:25:30 PM

BojanglesPaladin: Yeah. I'm kinda scratching my head on this one. To the best of my knowledge, Maggie may have been a hard-ass unconcerned with the plight of poor impovrished union workers and what not, but I don't think she is responsible for leaving millions to die.


Eh, apparently it's OK to invent vast atrocity figures where right-wing politicians are concerned. I mean, it's not as if people who hold conservative political opinions are human anyway -- so why not tell extravagant lies about them?
 
2013-04-10 07:30:33 PM
i think the celebrations point to the general malaise and division of british society. a country with more self respect would wait until she was int he ground. she was after all, democratically elected, and if you have any respect for your countrymen who voted for her the 24 hours after a politicians death should be about show respect to the individual, and by extension to the democratic process and the citizens who cast their votes for her.

once she's in the ground, you can talk about her legacy. this is just disgusting, vindictive and petty.
 
2013-04-10 07:31:37 PM
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2013-04-10 07:34:31 PM

The Ice Cream Man: But for all the squealing, you would have thought that Maggie was personally butchering school children.  If anything, it shows the danger of any government subsidy, no matter who the beneficiary is. Once it is established, it is politically difficult to eliminate.


Pretty much. The State must be allowed to continually expand so as to micro-manage ever more aspects of individual life; any attempts to rein in its authority, however slight, must be vilified as cold- hearted conservative "austerity" measures and resisted with violent protests if necessary. Ironically, the same people in favour of the indefinite expansion of the size and scope of government power will at the same time claim that anyone worried about statism is "paranoid", and that small- government advocates who disagree with them must be "fascists". Funny old world, isn't it?
 
2013-04-10 07:36:46 PM

The Ice Cream Man: But for all the squealing, you would have thought that Maggie was personally butchering school children.


No, she didn't do that personally, she just politically, financially and militarily supported Pinochet who did the torturing and butchering of children.
 
2013-04-10 07:40:25 PM

BoozePenguin: i think the celebrations point to the general malaise and division of british society. a country with more self respect would wait until she was int he ground. she was after all, democratically elected, and if you have any respect for your countrymen who voted for her the 24 hours after a politicians death should be about show respect to the individual, and by extension to the democratic process and the citizens who cast their votes for her.

once she's in the ground, you can talk about her legacy. this is just disgusting, vindictive and petty.


Gushing about how her policies solved the UK's problems (on the backs of the poor and working class) and how awesome she was, on the other hand? That is apparently just fine at the moment.
 
2013-04-10 07:42:55 PM

RINO: I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.


as in all things it depends on who you ask

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2013-04-10 07:48:20 PM
Zeno-25:
Gushing about how her policies solved the UK's problems (on the backs of the poor and working class) and how awesome she was, on the other hand? That is apparently just fine at the moment.

if i saw a respectful debate around that i'd suggest that's fine. ding dong the witch is dead going to the top of the charts and death parties are disgusting, and say more about the british left then they do about thatchers legacy.

again, it's about showing some respect to the democratic institution which put her in power, and your countrymen who voted for her. i'm not saying everybody has to love her or stop arguing her legacy was negative for the country, but this is tasteless.
 
2013-04-10 07:49:46 PM

RINO: I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.


Err, unemployment was 4% in the 70s, rising to 6% and the UK was then called the "sick man of Europe". The Thatcher came in and jacked up interest rates leading to unemployment of 10-12% for most of the next decade (and probably more due to the shifting of the unemployed onto incapacity benefits).

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate
 
2013-04-10 07:52:14 PM

xria: RINO: I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.

Err, unemployment was 4% in the 70s, rising to 6% and the UK was then called the "sick man of Europe". The Thatcher came in and jacked up interest rates leading to unemployment of 10-12% for most of the next decade (and probably more due to the shifting of the unemployed onto incapacity benefits).

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate


poor economic results call for gloating over a democratically elected leaders death? when jack layton died in canada i recall a very kind and respectful response from canadians of all stripes including those of us who live in provinces suffering from ndp economic mismanagement, and from the right wing. that speaks to the canadian psyche as much as this trash speaks to the british one. sad
 
2013-04-10 07:52:26 PM

BoozePenguin: but this is tasteless.


what i find tasteless are the conservative talking heads here in the U.S. who have managed to use her passing as an opportunity to gloat about how awesome Ronald Reagan was.
 
2013-04-10 07:52:34 PM

The Ice Cream Man: But for all the squealing, you would have thought that Maggie was personally butchering school children. If anything, it shows the danger of any government subsidy, no matter who the beneficiary is. Once it is established, it is politically difficult to eliminate. Not exactly a subsidy, but the US Postal Service caved on eliminating Saturday service, because of all the caterwauling.


its rare you see someone admit that they are stupid so publically. good for you, letting us all know.
 
2013-04-10 07:54:24 PM

Isitoveryet: BoozePenguin: but this is tasteless.

what i find tasteless are the conservative talking heads here in the U.S. who have managed to use her passing as an opportunity to gloat about how awesome Ronald Reagan was.


american politics is in the gutter too, which i also find very sad. there is such a thing as the high road, and it's worth taking sometimes
 
2013-04-10 08:00:53 PM

BoozePenguin: there is such a thing as the high road, and it's worth taking sometimes


I like that.

it may not pay as much or lengthen your time in office or get you a contributor job on a national new station but at the end of the day, it's the right thing to do & easy if you have pride & honor.
 
2013-04-10 08:16:27 PM

Isitoveryet: BoozePenguin: but this is tasteless.

what i find tasteless are the conservative talking heads here in the U.S. who have managed to use her passing as an opportunity to gloat about how awesome Ronald Reagan was.



But you don't understand! Like Paul Bunyan and Babe the Blue Ox, Ronald and Maggie wondered about Europe defeating communism. Why don't you know that they once dug the moat that surrounds Northern Ireland, not to mention that when the mighty Ronald Reagan needed to put out his campfire he made Mount Conservative. And times were good, all of the disciples came and laughed under the banner of capitalism and free market economics that Ronald and Maggie provided...But that was before the dark times...before the John "Obama" Henry started swinging his socialist hammer, drilling deep holes into mountain. And once where the children of freedom played close to the warmth of the sun, was forever destroyed, their bright faces cast down to the earth. But we can take it back if you are willing to fight the good fight. All I ask, No all America asks is that you give me $5. Do it for Maggie. Do it for the Gipper. Do it for your children. 

"Before that steam drill shall beat me down, I'll die with my hammer in my hand and communism in my heart" - John "Obama" Henry
 
2013-04-10 08:20:09 PM
I read the headline at first as "Thatcher death panties" and I felt a cold shiver....

/godspeed Lady Thatcher.
 
2013-04-10 09:17:07 PM

xria: RINO: I don't understand why she's so hated. The worst complaint I've ever heard about her was that unemployment in England rose two percent. I can't speak to the veracity of that statement, but I've nothing else negative about her apparently terrible time in office.

Err, unemployment was 4% in the 70s, rising to 6% and the UK was then called the "sick man of Europe". The Thatcher came in and jacked up interest rates leading to unemployment of 10-12% for most of the next decade (and probably more due to the shifting of the unemployed onto incapacity benefits).

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/unemployment-rate


Somebody else in a different thread claimed that unemployment when she left power was pretty vlose as when she first came to it.
 
2013-04-10 11:06:33 PM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: Ned Stark: Woman 'behind' death parties?

Pal, there'd be parties without her. Some graves are just made for dancing

Teddy Kennedy's springs to mind... I mean at least as far as I know, Margaret Thatcher never abandoned another human being to die.

/waah that's different


How about they both sucked as people in their own ways?
 
2013-04-11 12:08:04 AM
I'm just old enough to remember what a divisive figure she was when she actually held power but it's still been surprising to see the extraordinary amount of hate that's spilled out over the last two days. She didn't make the situation in Ireland better, the poll tax was a stupid idea and she was probably too strident about free market policies. That's the negative stuff in a long career.

But this is all so totally disproportionate. It is actually possible be pro-union and still be clear headed enough to see that the trade unions were completely out of control when she became PM. Some of her policies failed and some of her remedies for bringing the state in line were probably too painful in the short term. But there was no way the UK was going to continue to get away with the same routine for much longer. There's just no amount of revisionist history that's going to change the fact that she inherited a total mess.
 
2013-04-11 02:49:19 AM
I'll be taking the day off to celebrate. Seems perfectly reasonable to me to hate someone who has caused great harm to you and your family.
 
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