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(Talking Points Memo)   Rand PAUL gives awkward, condescending speech on race to students at historically black Howard University. So how's that outreach coming, GOP?   (tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 264
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2013-04-10 02:20:25 PM
His history lecture focused almost entirely on the period before 1964.

gee, why am i not surprised. i wonder what his fark handle is.
 
2013-04-10 02:41:33 PM
 Paul repeatedly reminded the audience that Democrats passed Jim Crow laws in the south and that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, as were the first black legislators and the founders of the NAACP.
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.
"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.

 
Its almost as if these students knew these facts because they sat through a comprehensive class on black history... as opposed to say learned about this from some bullet points that someone else collected for them.
 
2013-04-10 02:43:48 PM
Please run in 2016, Rand.  Pick Rubio as your Veep and let him carry water for you.  Bring out Dad to rant about the Fed.  Oh, please, Rand.  Please?
 
2013-04-10 02:48:39 PM
Rand "I should be able to fire you because you're black" Paul has a race problem?  This is my shocked font.
 
2013-04-10 02:49:49 PM
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.

"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.


Ha ha!

It doesn't matter if Republicans freed the slaves, because those Republicans have been dead for over 100 years.

If you want votes, point to the accomplishments of Republicans that are currently in politics.
 
2013-04-10 02:50:54 PM

kbronsito: Paul repeatedly reminded the audience that Democrats passed Jim Crow laws in the south and that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, as were the first black legislators and the founders of the NAACP.
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.
"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.
 
Its almost as if these students knew these facts because they sat through a comprehensive class on black history... as opposed to say learned about this from some bullet points that someone else collected for them.


He literally expected black college students to be completely ignorant of American history because he bought into the GOP's bullshiat hype about party roles in race relations from decades ago
 
2013-04-10 02:53:05 PM
I bet he's relieved he cut out the paragraph about how they were all stuck on a plantation since they're likely democrats.
 
2013-04-10 02:53:41 PM
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.

"Where's my MF-ing ice tea?!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.
 
2013-04-10 02:56:24 PM

Aarontology: kbronsito: Paul repeatedly reminded the audience that Democrats passed Jim Crow laws in the south and that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, as were the first black legislators and the founders of the NAACP.
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.
"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.
 
Its almost as if these students knew these facts because they sat through a comprehensive class on black history... as opposed to say learned about this from some bullet points that someone else collected for them.

He literally expected black college students to be completely ignorant of American history because he bought into the GOP's bullshiat hype about party roles in race relations from decades ago


I wish somebody would help educate my stepfather on this.  He grew up half-Indian in the Ozarks in the 50s and 60s, and has some interesting stories about the KKK and whatnot.  And he's right that just like back then, there's lots of racist, ignorant, douchebag rednecks in the south.  The trouble is, he can't get over the idea that now they all belong to the Republican party, not the Democratic.
 
2013-04-10 02:57:01 PM
As for this Republican outreach, I think it's a great idea. GOP, your problem is that you're not getting your message to minorities. Go into their communities and tell them about your values. Make sure they know what you really believe.

Please proceed, GOP.
 
2013-04-10 03:01:20 PM

Osomatic: I wish somebody would help educate my stepfather on this. He grew up half-Indian in the Ozarks in the 50s and 60s, and has some interesting stories about the KKK and whatnot. And he's right that just like back then, there's lots of racist, ignorant, douchebag rednecks in the south. The trouble is, he can't get over the idea that now they all belong to the Republican party, not the Democratic.


The thing I really don't get is that both parties have changed so much since then, the policies and roles they played in the past don't generally reflect the current party. Look at the GOP platform from Eisenhower. It's almost the opposite of what it is now in a hell of a lot of areas.

People put waaaaaaay too much of their own identity into political parties, and it causes them to do and believe really stupid things out of some fear of guilt by association from the past.
 
2013-04-10 03:23:44 PM
Beautiful.  Way to know your audience.  He tried to use FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW: FW:  schtick on highly racially aware college students.
 
2013-04-10 03:44:53 PM
*blink*

*blink*

Wow.
 
2013-04-10 03:47:32 PM
I hope Howard didn't pay the fool.
 
2013-04-10 03:55:03 PM

impaler: If you want votes, point to the accomplishments of Republicans that are currently in politics.


arizonaoddities.com
 
2013-04-10 03:58:46 PM
*scans headline*

25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-10 03:59:25 PM
"I've never wavered in my support for civil rights or the Civil Rights Act," he said.

That does not really comport with his past statements. Or even his very next sentence, which was: "The dispute, if there is one, has always been about how much of the remedy should come under federal or state or private purview." He added that he was concerned about "ramifications of certain portions of the Civil Rights Act beyond race."


Seriously? We have southern states that still have segregated proms. Cities like Baton Rouge have a black side and a white side. We have black people in the deep south that still live in sharecropper conditions. He thinks states have the best answers?

States are more easily purchased and controlled than the Federal Government. THAT is why the GOP and Tea Party want 'states rights'.
 
2013-04-10 04:04:58 PM
"I've never wavered in my support for civil rights or the Civil Rights Act," he said.

True. Never supported it, never will.
 
2013-04-10 04:13:34 PM

FlashHarry: His history lecture focused almost entirely on the period before 1964.

gee, why am i not surprised. i wonder what his fark handle is.


Not to mention


His first foray into national news came in 2010 when he criticized the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for encroaching on property rights and suggested that ending segregation should have been left to the free market

The modern Republican party, when it comes to policy, is hostile to their own legacy on civil rights, though usually not quite that openly.
Then, from the other side of their mouths, use that same legacy as a talking point.

Wonder why they're having such a hard time reaching out to blacks while simultaneously painting them as lazy freeloaders.
 
2013-04-10 04:21:42 PM
You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.
 
2013-04-10 04:22:53 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


And the audience he's reaching out to, no less.
 
2013-04-10 04:23:29 PM

tallguywithglasseson: Wonder why they're having such a hard time reaching out to blacks while simultaneously painting them as lazy freeloaders.


So are they.
 
2013-04-10 04:26:48 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-10 04:33:46 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


Ah, I see you've decided to go with Republican Debate Tactic #32:  If your opponent makes a good point and you have no way to refute it, simply dodge the issue and accuse them of being "shrill."
 
2013-04-10 04:33:56 PM
Paul repeatedly reminded the audience that Democrats passed Jim Crow laws in the south and that Abraham Lincoln was a Republican, as were the first black legislators and the founders of the NAACP.
"Would everyone know here they were all Republicans?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.
"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.


Did he expect the audience to turn to each other, murmuring in confused tones?

"Oh my god, they were all Republicans? I had no idea. Republicans, really? Wow. Maybe we were too harsh on Romney. Oh no! WHAT HAVE WE DONE?! WE'RE SO SORRY, RAND! WE DIDN'T KNOW!"
 
2013-04-10 04:34:06 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


*pssst* they're not supposed to be reaching out to the far right.
 
2013-04-10 04:38:41 PM
"I'm glad the GOP is looking to reach out, but if the policies don't change [it won't matter]," pharmacy student Maric Allen, 27, told TPM afterwards.

I was assured by Reince Priebus that the GOP didn't need to change its platform, just its messaging. I refuse to believe such a smart, upstanding man like Reince would presume to try to pull the wool over the eyes of people such as Maric...
 
2013-04-10 04:40:21 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Please run in 2016, Rand.  Pick Rubio as your Veep and let him carry water for you.  Bring out Dad to rant about the Fed.  Oh, please, Rand.  Please?


I see what you did there.
 
2013-04-10 04:41:38 PM
"Did you ever notice that white guys have names like Lenny, and black guys have names like Karl?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.

"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.
 
2013-04-10 04:44:30 PM
Guys, its not a big deal. It's just accidentially racist.
 
2013-04-10 04:47:31 PM
"Does anyone dispute the fact that they were the real racists?" he said at one point, referring to the NAACP's founders.

"Yes!" came the booming response from nearly the entire audience, who appeared offended Paul would even raise the question.
 
2013-04-10 04:50:05 PM
Do you, Rand Paul, know that Northern Democrats were more in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Northern Republicans and Southern Democrats were more in favor than Southern Republicans?
 
2013-04-10 04:51:43 PM

12349876: Do you, Rand Paul, know that Northern Democrats were more in favor of the 1964 Civil Rights Act than Northern Republicans and Southern Democrats were more in favor than Southern Republicans?


Exactly right. The issue pre-1964 had nothing to do with party. Once you control for geography, there are basically no other factors.
 
2013-04-10 04:52:26 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


If you wrap a fresh, steamy dump in pretty paper and give it to me as a gift, I'm not going to smile and thank you for it.
 
2013-04-10 04:55:09 PM
1956
upload.wikimedia.org

1964
upload.wikimedia.org
So, yeah, basically the Republicans are still the party of Lincoln.
 
2013-04-10 04:58:14 PM
If de Toqueville came to America today, he would think that conservatism meant to pretend that all economic and monetary history prior to 1945 and all socioeconomic history after 1964 had never happened.

/so vote Republican
 
2013-04-10 04:59:22 PM

Car_Ramrod: "I'm glad the GOP is looking to reach out, but if the policies don't change [it won't matter]," pharmacy student Maric Allen, 27, told TPM afterwards.

I was assured by Reince Priebus that the GOP didn't need to change its platform, just its messaging. I refuse to believe such a smart, upstanding man like Reince would presume to try to pull the wool over the eyes of people such as Maric...


i think they've been convinced by frank luntz that all they have to do is lie and the people will vote for them.
 
2013-04-10 05:00:27 PM

FlashHarry: i think they've been convinced by frank luntz that all they have to do is lie and the people will vote for them.


This is basically still true.
 
2013-04-10 05:07:49 PM

shifty lookin bleeder: If de Toqueville came to America today, he would think that conservatism meant to pretend that all economic and monetary history prior to 1945 and all socioeconomic history after 1964 had never happened.

/so vote Republican


He'd recommend France take the Statue of Liberty back.
 
2013-04-10 05:19:14 PM
The broader point here is that the GOP (and conservatives in general) don't seem to understand the difference between "arguments for why minorities should be a member of our group" and "arguments made for the purpose of comforting existing members of our group that they aren't prejudiced".
 
2013-04-10 05:28:41 PM

DamnYankees: The broader point here is that the GOP (and conservatives in general) don't seem to understand the difference between "arguments for why minorities should be a member of our group" and "arguments made for the purpose of comforting existing members of our group that they aren't prejudiced".


I think Yglesias flirts with the first part of that in this piece from just after the election.

To do better, Republicans don't need a different immigration policy or better Hispanic outreach strategy, they need an overall policy that's more compelling to the middle class and will help them do better with voters of all kinds.
 
2013-04-10 05:33:05 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


Oh, you.
 
2013-04-10 05:35:25 PM
Well hats off for trying.

Maybe hire a speech writer that ISN'T a republican for these outreach events.
 
2013-04-10 05:35:35 PM
"Should we limit racists from speaking?" Paul said in that interview. "I don't want to be associated with those people

Too late.
 
2013-04-10 05:37:16 PM
Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell: proudly serving Kentucky.
 
2013-04-10 05:41:25 PM
Yes folks, it is true, Rand Paul is so completely arrogant/ignorant that he would attempt to educate a crowd at Howard on the history of race relations in the US.
 
2013-04-10 05:42:28 PM

karmaceutical: Yes folks, it is true, Rand Paul is so completely arrogant/ignorant that he would attempt assume he either needed to, or had any standing  to, mis-educate a crowd at Howard on the history of race relations in the US.



FTFY
 
2013-04-10 05:42:46 PM
Rand Paul:  The original bubble boy

"MOOPS!  MOOPS!"
 
2013-04-10 05:43:29 PM

BunkoSquad: 1956
[upload.wikimedia.org image 349x203]

1964
[upload.wikimedia.org image 349x203]
So, yeah, basically the Republicans are still the party of Lincoln.


Some people can't get it through their heads that the two parties have switched a lot. Look at history. You either need to believe that all the people thinking changed and flipped from the south and the north or the parties did.
 
2013-04-10 05:44:14 PM

SkinnyHead: You can tell that the outreach is doing well by the shrill reaction it's getting from the left.


Then by that logic Obama must be the best president in the history of the world based on Republican reaction.
 
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