Since the Bible verse in question has nothing to do with hating homosexuals and sex, most Republicans won't recognize it as being a Bible verse.

Well, since we're throwing quotes around let's try this one that deals with the subject matter at hand!

"When an opponent says 'I will not come over to your side' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already!  What are you?  You will pass on.  Your descendants now stand in this new camp.  In short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

Yeah I went there.

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah I went there.

When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

Perhaps try decaf tomorrow, hoss.

James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when_an_opponent_declares--i_will_no t_ come_over/338082.html

MHP is one of those people I really like and have respect for, but I have doubts we'd hate each other in real life. Great line here:


We do live in a nation where slaveholders took the infants from the arms of my foremothers and sold them for their own profit. We do live in a nation where the government snatched American Indian children from their families and "re-educated" them by forbidding them to speak their language and practice their traditions.

But that is not what I was talking about, and you know it.
/Also, her hair is awesome.

Dancin_In_Anson: Your descendants now stand in this new camp

Speaking of camps, how is that war on black/Hispanic/poor people drugs that is so popular with the conservative base, coming along?

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around

Are you making fun of her lisp?

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around

Yes, because being misinterpreted by Glenn Beck and Erick Erickson is a definite sign that something is wrong with her.

and yet, it seems that every third self-described "conservative" I've ever met waxes nostalgic for the days when all kids knew that they had to obey the orders of any adult in the neighborhood and grown-ups thought nothing of spanking random misbehaving children they came across, and parent's only response if you compalined about such beatings was that you got a second one.   And then they want to know why we can;t pray in schools anymore and have public school teachers teach kids about "morality"

Magorn: and yet, it seems that every third self-described "conservative" I've ever met waxes nostalgic for the days when all kids knew that they had to obey the orders of any adult in the neighborhood and grown-ups thought nothing of spanking random misbehaving children they came across, and parent's only response if you compalined about such beatings was that you got a second one.   And then they want to know why we can;t pray in schools anymore and have public school teachers teach kids about "morality"

Ah yes, the Good 'ol Days.   Have heard of those.

When the flood of vitriolic responses to the ad began, my first reaction was relief. I had spent the entire day grading papers and was relieved that since these children were not my responsibility, I could simply mail the students' papers to their moms and dads to grade! But of course, that is a ridiculous notion. As a teacher, I have unique responsibilities to the students in my classroom at Tulane University, and I embrace those responsibilities. It is why I love my job.

She's kinda awesome.

I don't see why anyone should be surprised by the Right's reaction to this.  After all, we're talking about the same people who claim that it's possible to build a successful business completely by yourself without any help from anyone.

Good on MHP for not budging. Nothing she said was controversial.

Ant: When did this become a bad thing?

When someone on MSNBC said it.

Ant: WTF is wrong with these people? In the supposed "traditional American society" that conservatives are always talking about, it seems that kids were kind of raised by the communities in which they grew up. When did this become a bad thing?

When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood watched out for us, whether we were their kids or not.

I remember that when I used to be a huge conservative I would listen to tons of talk radio. And while they would always make fun of Hillary's "It Takes a Village", there was one host who defended that statement. It was Dennis Prager, I think, and his attitude was "yes, it takes a village - I just don't want to live in Hillary's village".

It's, to this day, perhaps the only quasi-sensible thing that guy has said.

Dancin_In_Anson: Well, since we're throwing quotes around let's try this one that deals with the subject matter at hand!

"When an opponent says 'I will not come over to your side' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already!  What are you?  You will pass on.  Your descendants now stand in this new camp.  In short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
I hadn't heard that one before.
It does explain where that host was coming from.

Thread over.

CPennypacker: I know that there was no reason for her to apologize, but as someone who saw the ad, I wonder how she would actually give an apology to this? I'm sorry that I said that kids need a strong community to thrive?

Or the standard "I'm sorry if I offended anyone?"

She didn't apologize at all. I quote: "Allow me to double down."

Conservatives also fail to realize that the whole notion of community arose when multiple family groups began caring for each other's members, including the kids.

It's a great example of how someone can say something perfectly rational, but if it's a Democrat, clearly it means what they said must be followed exactly and if you don't the jackboots will come for your bootstraps and force taxes on your dead grandma.

// it takes a village, but apparently it also takes a village idiot

PartTimeBuddha: Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

?

I think he means he didn't lose.

skullkrusher: In the commercial she talks about how we have to get past the idea of private kids and talk about how they belong to the communities. It was a terrible, terrible choice of phrasing.

Sounds fine to me. What did you think she meant, exactly?