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(Yahoo)   After the right-wing loses its collective shiat and bombards an MSNBC host with hate mail because said that "children belong to whole communities", she responds by tweeting a bible verse about loving one's enemies. This troll goes to 11   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 488
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2013-04-10 10:09:54 AM  
Since the Bible verse in question has nothing to do with hating homosexuals and sex, most Republicans won't recognize it as being a Bible verse.
 
2013-04-10 10:25:18 AM  
Well, since we're throwing quotes around let's try this one that deals with the subject matter at hand!

"When an opponent says 'I will not come over to your side' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already!  What are you?  You will pass on.  Your descendants now stand in this new camp.  In short time they will know nothing else but this new community."
 
2013-04-10 10:25:53 AM  
Yeah I went there.
 
2013-04-10 10:33:20 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Yeah I went there.


When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.
 
2013-04-10 10:34:51 AM  
Perhaps try decaf tomorrow, hoss.
 
2013-04-10 10:35:41 AM  

James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.


I didn't.
 
2013-04-10 10:37:24 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.


http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when_an_opponent_declares--i_will_no t_ come_over/338082.html
 
2013-04-10 10:42:08 AM  
MHP is one of those people I really like and have respect for, but I have doubts we'd hate each other in real life. Great line here:


We do live in a nation where slaveholders took the infants from the arms of my foremothers and sold them for their own profit. We do live in a nation where the government snatched American Indian children from their families and "re-educated" them by forbidding them to speak their language and practice their traditions.

But that is not what I was talking about, and you know it.

/Also, her hair is awesome.
 
2013-04-10 10:46:50 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Your descendants now stand in this new camp


Speaking of camps, how is that war on black/Hispanic/poor people drugs that is so popular with the conservative base, coming along?
 
2013-04-10 10:49:27 AM  
It's no fair when liberals use the bible....it ruins the conservatives' pretend meaning.
 
2013-04-10 10:50:38 AM  
The community has a responsibility to its children? No wonder this doesn't appeal to the "fark you I've got mine" crowd.
 
2013-04-10 10:51:31 AM  

Citrate1007: It's no fair when liberals use the bible....it ruins the conservatives' pretend meaning.


It is just as underhanded as using right winger's own words against them.
 
2013-04-10 10:51:43 AM  
Every one belongs to every one else.
 
2013-04-10 10:51:46 AM  
So, do I get to discipline my neighbors' children or not?
 
2013-04-10 10:52:33 AM  

James!: Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when_an_opponent_declares--i_will_no t_ come_over/338082.html


LOL Either DIA didn't know the origin of his own quote or he failed hard on trying to be clever.  In any case he's probably busy fighting off those wild pigs.
 
2013-04-10 10:52:37 AM  
As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around
 
2013-04-10 10:52:50 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.


?
 
2013-04-10 10:53:48 AM  

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around


Are you making fun of her lisp?
 
2013-04-10 10:54:03 AM  

Cletus C.: So, do I get to discipline my neighbors' children or not?


www.adaweb.net
 
2013-04-10 10:54:03 AM  

Cletus C.: So, do I get to discipline my neighbors' children or not?


Beating kids is OK. Sean Hannity and Malkin said so.
 
2013-04-10 10:54:04 AM  

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around


Yes, because being misinterpreted by Glenn Beck and Erick Erickson is a definite sign that something is wrong with her.
 
2013-04-10 10:54:26 AM  
and yet, it seems that every third self-described "conservative" I've ever met waxes nostalgic for the days when all kids knew that they had to obey the orders of any adult in the neighborhood and grown-ups thought nothing of spanking random misbehaving children they came across, and parent's only response if you compalined about such beatings was that you got a second one.   And then they want to know why we can;t pray in schools anymore and have public school teachers teach kids about "morality"
 
2013-04-10 10:55:53 AM  

Cletus C.: So, do I get to discipline my neighbors' children or not?


Have you broken bread with your neighbors' wives? You might want to ask that question while enjoying an after breaking bread smoke.
 
2013-04-10 10:55:57 AM  

Magorn: and yet, it seems that every third self-described "conservative" I've ever met waxes nostalgic for the days when all kids knew that they had to obey the orders of any adult in the neighborhood and grown-ups thought nothing of spanking random misbehaving children they came across, and parent's only response if you compalined about such beatings was that you got a second one.   And then they want to know why we can;t pray in schools anymore and have public school teachers teach kids about "morality"


Ah yes, the Good 'ol Days.   Have heard of those.
 
2013-04-10 10:56:20 AM  
When the flood of vitriolic responses to the ad began, my first reaction was relief. I had spent the entire day grading papers and was relieved that since these children were not my responsibility, I could simply mail the students' papers to their moms and dads to grade! But of course, that is a ridiculous notion. As a teacher, I have unique responsibilities to the students in my classroom at Tulane University, and I embrace those responsibilities. It is why I love my job.

She's kinda awesome.
 
2013-04-10 10:56:22 AM  
I don't see why anyone should be surprised by the Right's reaction to this.  After all, we're talking about the same people who claim that it's possible to build a successful business completely by yourself without any help from anyone.
 
2013-04-10 10:56:35 AM  
There was a guy from the Family Research Council talking about this on FoxNews this morning. What he said basically boiled down to "Leftists want to steal your children! I totally understand what she meant and I completely agree with it but herrrrr-lefties!  Horrible!"
 
2013-04-10 10:56:36 AM  
Good on MHP for not budging. Nothing she said was controversial.
 
Ant
2013-04-10 10:56:50 AM  
WTF is wrong with these people? In the supposed "traditional American society" that conservatives are always talking about, it seems that kids were kind of raised by the communities in which they grew up. When did this become a bad thing?

When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood watched out for us, whether we were their kids or not.
 
2013-04-10 10:56:56 AM  

Fart_Machine: Cletus C.: So, do I get to discipline my neighbors' children or not?

Beating kids is OK. Sean Hannity and Malkin said so.


We outsource our beatings around here and send the kids to a charter school
 
2013-04-10 10:57:11 AM  

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around


The home-schooled crowd usually has a tough time understanding actual educated people.
 
2013-04-10 10:57:30 AM  

James!: Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

http://thinkexist.com/quotation/when_an_opponent_declares--i_will_no t_ come_over/338082.html


Figures DiA doesn't know the difference between Jesus and Hitler.
 
2013-04-10 10:58:41 AM  
They actually hate most of the bible too.
 
2013-04-10 10:58:44 AM  

Godscrack: Dancin_In_Anson: Your descendants now stand in this new camp

Speaking of camps, how is that war on black/Hispanic/poor people drugs that is so popular with the conservative base, coming along?


With millions of Americans rotting in jail cells for their personal behavior, we must be winning, right?
 
2013-04-10 10:59:15 AM  

Ant: When did this become a bad thing?


When someone on MSNBC said it.
 
2013-04-10 10:59:24 AM  
I follow Luke 18:16 - "Suffer, little children".
 
2013-04-10 10:59:27 AM  

Ant: WTF is wrong with these people? In the supposed "traditional American society" that conservatives are always talking about, it seems that kids were kind of raised by the communities in which they grew up. When did this become a bad thing?

When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood watched out for us, whether we were their kids or not.


I remember that when I used to be a huge conservative I would listen to tons of talk radio. And while they would always make fun of Hillary's "It Takes a Village", there was one host who defended that statement. It was Dennis Prager, I think, and his attitude was "yes, it takes a village - I just don't want to live in Hillary's village".

It's, to this day, perhaps the only quasi-sensible thing that guy has said.
 
2013-04-10 10:59:33 AM  

Magorn: compalined


A typo with potential. As used in a sentence: "She compalined about the length of gubernatorial terms."
 
2013-04-10 11:00:24 AM  
I know that there was no reason for her to apologize, but as someone who saw the ad, I wonder how she would actually give an apology to this? I'm sorry that I said that kids need a strong community to thrive?

Or the standard "I'm sorry if I offended anyone?"
 
2013-04-10 11:00:32 AM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Well, since we're throwing quotes around let's try this one that deals with the subject matter at hand!

"When an opponent says 'I will not come over to your side' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already!  What are you?  You will pass on.  Your descendants now stand in this new camp.  In short time they will know nothing else but this new community."


Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
I hadn't heard that one before.
It does explain where that host was coming from.

Thread over.
 
2013-04-10 11:00:45 AM  
That click you hear is DIA closing his browser and pretending this thread didn't exist.
 
2013-04-10 11:00:50 AM  

DamnYankees: skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around

Yes, because being misinterpreted by Glenn Beck and Erick Erickson is a definite sign that something is wrong with her.


did you watch the commercial. Now she is basically giving Hill's "It takes a village" speech. In the commercial she talks about how we have to get past the idea of private kids and talk about how they belong to the communities. It was a terrible, terrible choice of phrasing. At the time I said that I believed her point was the "village" point but she expressed it in a seemingly intentionally inflammatory manner.
 
2013-04-10 11:01:12 AM  

CPennypacker: I know that there was no reason for her to apologize, but as someone who saw the ad, I wonder how she would actually give an apology to this? I'm sorry that I said that kids need a strong community to thrive?

Or the standard "I'm sorry if I offended anyone?"


She didn't apologize at all. I quote: "Allow me to double down."
 
2013-04-10 11:01:23 AM  
Conservatives also fail to realize that the whole notion of community arose when multiple family groups began caring for each other's members, including the kids.

It's a great example of how someone can say something perfectly rational, but if it's a Democrat, clearly it means what they said must be followed exactly and if you don't the jackboots will come for your bootstraps and force taxes on your dead grandma.

// it takes a village, but apparently it also takes a village idiot
 
2013-04-10 11:01:32 AM  

PartTimeBuddha: Dancin_In_Anson: James!: When you have to reference Hitler to make your point you've lost.

I didn't.

?


I think he means he didn't lose.
 
2013-04-10 11:01:48 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: Dancin_In_Anson: Well, since we're throwing quotes around let's try this one that deals with the subject matter at hand!

"When an opponent says 'I will not come over to your side' I calmly say, 'Your child belongs to us already!  What are you?  You will pass on.  Your descendants now stand in this new camp.  In short time they will know nothing else but this new community."

Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
I hadn't heard that one before.
It does explain where that host was coming from.

Thread over.


Wow, leave it to you to double down on stupid,
 
2013-04-10 11:01:51 AM  

skullkrusher: In the commercial she talks about how we have to get past the idea of private kids and talk about how they belong to the communities. It was a terrible, terrible choice of phrasing.


Sounds fine to me. What did you think she meant, exactly?
 
Ant
2013-04-10 11:01:57 AM  

skullkrusher: As a teacher you should learn to express yourself more clearly than you did the first time around


There is no way to do that when drama queens like Beck and Limbaugh are on the case, ready, willing, and able to be outraged over nothing at a moment's notice!
 
2013-04-10 11:02:15 AM  

Ant: WTF is wrong with these people? In the supposed "traditional American society" that conservatives are always talking about, it seems that kids were kind of raised by the communities in which they grew up. When did this become a bad thing?

When I was a kid, the whole neighborhood watched out for us, whether we were their kids or not.


The problem is nowadays  some of the people in the neighborhood might not be WASPs, so if the community starts helping raise their kids they might learn about things like tolerance, empathy and equality.
 
2013-04-10 11:02:16 AM  
I thought the concluding paragraph was strange and slanted. Then I looked at the byline and realized that Yahoo! is now reposting blog entries from The Blaze.  Wonderful.
 
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