trotsky: Magorn: Here's the money quote of this article:"As described by Salon, the flag was given to McLaughlin by Sen. Chuck Schumer's office for his aid to victims on 9/11. He brought the flag to Iraq, thinking he'd take a photo of it overseas. Then, his commander asked to borrow it to drape over the head of the Iraqi dictator's statue."The poor SOB believed the Bush Adminstration BS linking Saddam and 9/11 and went to war thinking he was getting Payback for the WTC victimsNO WONDER he's more than a little bitter about the experience now:For the 35-year-old lawyer, who provides free legal services to homeless and low-income veterans, victory is not what he remembers. "For me it was a period of death and killing people. I don't like that it facilitated the media's narrative of wars as neat and tidy things, so that's why when I got back home I just put it away."beyond Poltics or partisanship THIS is why I consider George Bush one of the wprst presidents in US history: he broke faith with our soldiers, and sent them to war on an intentional lie, and let all their suffering and sacrifice be for nothing at allRead Generation Kill. Many of those guys were already aware of the bullshiat early on with the mis-managed invasion and the aftermath. Hell, the Senior NCOs in the book even begin to wonder if there even was some sort of occupation plan.Hint: there wasn't. I can't blame him for being disillusioned. Many of the vets I teach are the exact same way. They paid a pretty heavy price for Bush/Rumsfelds/Cheney's macho man war.One of my wife's teabagger Uncles was openly questioning how much the taxpayer (that's his shtick, asking how much "the taxpayer" contributes) contributed towards the death insurance of somebody very close to the family's death in 2003. Guy was shot at the end of the "shock and awe" portion of the war as they entered Baghdad.The Uncle was told to stop it and not delve so deep into a very sensitive subject, especially with bullshiat teabag p ...
hdhale: I have said a million times since the start of the Iraq War that the right call was made based upon what we knew at the time...it was only later that we finally figured out what the fark we were doing
hdhale: I'm seeing a lot of really bitter, snarky assholes in this thread and an article about one really bitter Marine.Meanwhile, there's a WW II vet that remembers the hundreds of thousands of German civilians killed in the process of taking down Nazi Germany, shakes his head at all of you, and goes back to reading his paper. War is not something one engages in lightly. People die. Fathers, mothers, sons and daughters die.I have said a million times since the start of the Iraq War that the right call was made based upon what we knew at the time. I still believe that. I have also said that the occupation was botched early on and it was only later that we finally figured out what the fark we were doing and if you have to point a finger of blame at Bush & Co. point it there. There is no need for tin foil hat grand conspiracy theories about winning daddy's war, big oil, or anything else that makes you no better than the people still looking for the hidden UN troops on US soil.
hdhale: I have said a million times since the start of the Iraq War that the right call was made based upon what we knew at the time. I still believe that.
jmr61: Good for him. Thank you marine.
wingnut396: Magorn: and let all their suffering and sacrifice be for nothing at allI would not call one upping Daddy and war profiteering nothing at all...
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