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2013-04-10 04:05:51 PM  

cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself


At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.
 
2013-04-10 04:07:36 PM  

pciszek: cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself

At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.


And that all important nutrient, MSG. Surely that makes up for the lack of protein, fat and vitamins and nutrients Ramen doesn't have?
 
2013-04-10 04:11:39 PM  
I see these kids that eat only chicken nuggets and mac 'n' cheese; their parents say "he won't eat anything else." Yes he will, you're just taking the easy route. Make them taste things. Just don't make them eat things they've tasted and don't like, that's just mean.

I was a very picky eater as a child (still am) but it was because I simply didn't like many things. I always tried them and ate a lot of things that kids today wouldn't touch (all kinds of seafood, lentils). What drove me crazy was that when we were eating with other people, I would just eat some of whatever it was I liked. Some adult would notice I wasn't eating a green veggie or something and then it would become an issue. They would all talk talk talk talk about it and repeatedly say "she's just doing it for attention." Meanwhile, I wanted to sink through the floor. I hated it when people talked about what I was eating and they're the ones who made a big deal out of it but I was doing it for attention?

My mom was a great cook and my Italian grandmother cooked on a heavenly level. We ate at good restaurants. But certain things taste bad to me. How often do you eat foods you don't like? I can't fathom how anyone can eat broccoli, it's repulsive. It bothers me when it's on someone else's plate because I can smell it. And it kills me when someone ruins perfectly good cheese soup by putting broccoli in it. People say "you can't taste it" I say your taste buds must be dead.

I recently read that repeated ear infections in children can damage a sensory nerve and that makes certain veggies (broccoli and cauliflower among them) taste really bad to them. I had a lot of ear infections as a child, I think I probably have that damaged nerve.

I'm trying very hard to eat more vegetables but as I said, no one wants to eat food they don't like.
 
2013-04-10 04:12:22 PM  

Splish: I think we're probably talking about different groups when we say "medical professionals" then.  Or maybe you haven't dealt with some parts of the population in general.  There are definitely doctors out there who are quirky, egotistical, kooky, misguided, just plain weird, etc.  They may even say and do idiotic things from time to time.  But none of them are idiots at large.


There is Representative Paul Broun, who somehow managed to become a doctor without learning any basic science.  Other Republicans have managed to find "doctors" who agree with their bizarre "biology of rape".
 
2013-04-10 04:15:28 PM  

spunkymunky: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: spunkymunky: Lord Dimwit: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: Splish: I was talking to a doctor the other day and out of nowhere she bragged that her 16 year old daughter has never eaten a vegetable.  And my uncle's girlfriend is proud of the fact that she's never eaten anything green; she'll tell you every chance she gets. These people are out there.  We don't have to pay attention to them.

They're train wrecks though, so hard to look away. My nephew won't touch vegetables. I'm truly horrified that someone that works in the health field (such as the doctor you know and also my MIL and SIL) are so willing to accept unbalanced diets. Then again, my nephew has had obvious speak issues since the age of two and he started getting therapy for it at 4.5 years old, because it wasn't convenient before. And the family doctor continually said he was OK. No one could say anything about it without getting shut down because the doctor said he was OK. Medical professionals can be idiots too.

I've known at least two children (my nephew and a child of a friend) who couldn't speak more than babbling and "mama/dada" at the age of two and a half, but their pediatricians always said "they're fine, they're fine." I don't get it, how is that possible? Are the developmental milestones really that loose? (They're not; I've checked.)

You'd think these people would be reprimanded by their licensing boards or something.

At 18 months old my daughter was speaking in 5-7 word sentences but couldn't legitimately jump and get air till 2.5 or 3. The next kid, a boy, was barely stringing two words together at two years old and had a very limited vocabulary but he could communicate a lot of what he wanted. He was also walking at 9 months and jumping and getting air around 14 months. We wondered a bit with him bit his big sister did all his talking for him so I think he just kept his mouth shut and kept moving. Around 2.5 or so he just broke out speaking in big sentences and puttin ...


Oh your co-worker's kid is tongue-tied, my cousin's kid had that and her pediatrician refused to clip the tongue for a long time, despite the fact that they can clip it at a few months old without a fuss AND no stitches.

I suggest your co-worker due some research and find a doctor to do the snip now. My cousin kid is 4 and speaks fine now. Winston Churchill had it as well.
 
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2013-04-10 04:19:00 PM  
Parenting should require a license. I've seen photos of my ancestors that came from dirt-poor peasantvilles; the men were incredibly short and stout. I doubt it was all from childhood diseases alone, their diet consisted almost exclusively of the bread and potatoes that manifests today in old family recipes. Their American-born children were significantly taller.

These shiatty parents shouldn't be allowed to stunt their kids' physical and mental growth just so mom or dad can avoid a mealtime argument and keep watching their stories on the telly uninterrupted.
 
2013-04-10 04:23:13 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: spunkymunky: Also, my youngest runs around with a Nerf sword (yes, I gave all my kids Nerf swords for Christmas) and yells "SHEEERAAAAAA!" and then smacks whomever is nearest with the sword. It's farking awesome.

Doing it right. I would not hide your status updates on Facebook if you posted about these thing. Is Shera popular again or are you doing it old-school and showing them the show on the interwebs/DVD?

/I was not allowed to watch cartoons as a child.
//Only vaguely remember Shera, Heman, etc.


I can't stand the bulk of newer cartoons (Phineas & Ferb is awesome, though) so we watch a lot of the "classics". The entire series of Shera, He-Man, GI-Joe, the 1960's and 80's Spiderman shows and quite a few other cartoons of my youth are streaming on Netflix so when I need a break from being a human jungle gym they get to watch an episode of one those shows. Yeah, Shera is dead in the eyes but I like my daughter to see a superhero type woman who shunned living in a palace with her family to go help people.
 
2013-04-10 04:24:49 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: SmartfoodPopcorn: Yea, agreed with some of the people here. In this girl's defense, the food in England is pretty terrible. When I was in London (granted I wasn't eating home-cooked food) I would have shouted GIGGITY at the sight of some Ramen.

/being a picky eater when you're a kid isn't that unusual - but when it makes you anti-social, you've got a bigger problem.
//weird way of sheltering their daughter, perhaps?

I think the eating out options for budget-conscious people might be the problem for Americans in England. My friend was there as an exchange student in college and she had no access to cooking facilities, so all she could do was eat out or microwave her food and she hated everything about the food. She ended up gaining 15lbs because she settled for American fast food instead of continuing to try English fare. She is still a pretty picky eater though. She was raised on a steady diet of processed American slop, so she had a pretty limited range of acceptable foods, textures and tastes. And apparently, Kraft Mac and Cheese is fairly pricy there and this was pre-microwave Easy Mac!


Interesting. Well I did enjoy the fish n' chips!
 
2013-04-10 04:30:25 PM  

Lord Dimwit: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: Splish: I was talking to a doctor the other day and out of nowhere she bragged that her 16 year old daughter has never eaten a vegetable.  And my uncle's girlfriend is proud of the fact that she's never eaten anything green; she'll tell you every chance she gets. These people are out there.  We don't have to pay attention to them.

They're train wrecks though, so hard to look away. My nephew won't touch vegetables. I'm truly horrified that someone that works in the health field (such as the doctor you know and also my MIL and SIL) are so willing to accept unbalanced diets. Then again, my nephew has had obvious speak issues since the age of two and he started getting therapy for it at 4.5 years old, because it wasn't convenient before. And the family doctor continually said he was OK. No one could say anything about it without getting shut down because the doctor said he was OK. Medical professionals can be idiots too.

I've known at least two children (my nephew and a child of a friend) who couldn't speak more than babbling and "mama/dada" at the age of two and a half, but their pediatricians always said "they're fine, they're fine." I don't get it, how is that possible? Are the developmental milestones really that loose? (They're not; I've checked.)

You'd think these people would be reprimanded by their licensing boards or something.


Yes, that's actually not terrible. My first wasn't using complete sentences until after 3 and he's perfectly fine now. Some kids just start talking late. The main driver is "are they getting what they want without talking?" If all the kid has to do is point and cry and he gets what he wants, there's no incentive to talk.
 
2013-04-10 04:34:25 PM  

shortymac: Oh your co-worker's kid is tongue-tied, my cousin's kid had that and her pediatrician refused to clip the tongue for a long time, despite the fact that they can clip it at a few months old without a fuss AND no stitches.

I suggest your co-worker due some research and find a doctor to do the snip now. My cousin kid is 4 and speaks fine now. Winston Churchill had it as well.


Yep, really simple fix. A former gf's kid had it and they fixed it before he was six months old. Other than the autism the kid is fine. The problem with this particular lady is that she doesn't seem to notice it as being a problem. To make it better she's a nurse and her husband is an X-Ray tech. So they both spend 40+ hours a week in a hospital and all the MD's they work with know the kid. And none of them have said a damn thing to her about it. She's the overprotective, "OMG, my child is in another room of your house with your kids and I can't see them so I have to go see what they're up to" type of biatch.
 
2013-04-10 04:42:11 PM  

spunkymunky: ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: spunkymunky: Also, my youngest runs around with a Nerf sword (yes, I gave all my kids Nerf swords for Christmas) and yells "SHEEERAAAAAA!" and then smacks whomever is nearest with the sword. It's farking awesome.

Doing it right. I would not hide your status updates on Facebook if you posted about these thing. Is Shera popular again or are you doing it old-school and showing them the show on the interwebs/DVD?

/I was not allowed to watch cartoons as a child.
//Only vaguely remember Shera, Heman, etc.

I can't stand the bulk of newer cartoons (Phineas & Ferb is awesome, though) so we watch a lot of the "classics". The entire series of Shera, He-Man, GI-Joe, the 1960's and 80's Spiderman shows and quite a few other cartoons of my youth are streaming on Netflix so when I need a break from being a human jungle gym they get to watch an episode of one those shows. Yeah, Shera is dead in the eyes but I like my daughter to see a superhero type woman who shunned living in a palace with her family to go help people.


I really don't like cartoons. My dad's efforts to restrict children's TV worked as intended I think. I watched some Saturday morning cartoons, Smurfs, but otherwise, we watched Sharon Lois and Bram's Elephant show, Eureka's Castle, Carissa Explains It All, Pete and Pete, etc. If we were caught watching cartoons, Headline News was put on and we were sent to clean our rooms. And if our rooms were cleaned, we were sent outside to play. Oh, and we could watch People's Court and CNN. That's how I got in super trouble in 4th grade, because I tried to discuss current events that were not kid-approved (Gulf War and Waco Stand Off.) My teacher sent letters home and called a conference about kid-appropriate TV for children my age. My dad did not understand why discussing a false prophet who led believers away from Christ and how the government was doing illegal things by disrupting his right to practice his religion or a war over oil was some how inappropriate for a 10 year old...

At least I can laugh about it now, but being banned from discussing news from your 4th grade class sharing circle when all you know about is news is pretty harsh!
 
2013-04-10 04:47:22 PM  

socoloco: It will prepare him for college.


Know how I know you didn't read the article?
 
2013-04-10 04:51:42 PM  

pciszek: cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself

At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.


Bizarre toppings? Shoot, my hemade pizza is healthier than some salads out there. Wheat crust, pesto and a little Alfredo sauce, shreds of zucchini, bell peppers, onions, olives, grilled chicken strips, spinach, and lean mozzerella and feta cheese. And now I know what I'm making for dinner. *rummages through the fridge*

See, some of you talk about the vegetables and how some folks don't like them. Me? I will eat any veggie I can get my hands on, but I don't do fruit that isn't fresh. I can't handle slimy preserves or lumps of soggy fruit in yogurt. I also don't like peanut butter. Something in how it smells makes me feel sick. So I always preferred turkey sandwiches as a kid- no big deal.

/FYI, adding pesto to a turkey sandwich makes it so much better
 
2013-04-10 04:52:39 PM  

kiwimoogle84: pciszek: cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself

At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.

Bizarre toppings? Shoot, my hemade pizza is healthier than some salads out there. Wheat crust, pesto and a little Alfredo sauce, shreds of zucchini, bell peppers, onions, olives, grilled chicken strips, spinach, and lean mozzerella and feta cheese. And now I know what I'm making for dinner. *rummages through the fridge*

See, some of you talk about the vegetables and how some folks don't like them. Me? I will eat any veggie I can get my hands on, but I don't do fruit that isn't fresh. I can't handle slimy preserves or lumps of soggy fruit in yogurt. I also don't like peanut butter. Something in how it smells makes me feel sick. So I always preferred turkey sandwiches as a kid- no big deal.

/FYI, adding pesto to a turkey sandwich makes it so much better


Er, homemade pizza. Lost a couple letters there.
 
2013-04-10 04:55:22 PM  

Maul555: Nothing pisses me off more than my grandmother calling me a picky eater.  I am the opposite of a picky eater, I am an adventuresome eater.  If I have never had it and have trouble pronouncing it, then I want it even more.  I will eat everything from sashimi, to indian food, to pickled quail eggs...  I just don't like farking nuts which she is always putting into her pies and salads n shiat and she thinks I must be the worst eater in the world because of it.  always trying to sneak nuts into my food on purpose...   I am not allergic to nuts, I will even eat nuts, I just dont care for them and they will straight up ruin a salad for me...

/end tangent


No offense but your grandma sounds like a prick.
 
2013-04-10 04:56:53 PM  

spunkymunky: shortymac: Oh your co-worker's kid is tongue-tied, my cousin's kid had that and her pediatrician refused to clip the tongue for a long time, despite the fact that they can clip it at a few months old without a fuss AND no stitches.

I suggest your co-worker due some research and find a doctor to do the snip now. My cousin kid is 4 and speaks fine now. Winston Churchill had it as well.

Yep, really simple fix. A former gf's kid had it and they fixed it before he was six months old. Other than the autism the kid is fine. The problem with this particular lady is that she doesn't seem to notice it as being a problem. To make it better she's a nurse and her husband is an X-Ray tech. So they both spend 40+ hours a week in a hospital and all the MD's they work with know the kid. And none of them have said a damn thing to her about it. She's the overprotective, "OMG, my child is in another room of your house with your kids and I can't see them so I have to go see what they're up to" type of biatch.


I actually lived next door to a lady who is still tongue-tied at 70 years old.

Her mother was a teacher and when she started talking funny she thought she just had a lisp like her sister. Granted this was the middle of Northern Bumfark Nowhere Canada 70 years ago.

She was actually studied by speech specialists because conventional opinion was tongue-tied people would never learn to talk. To get snipped now she would have to re-learn how to talk both English and French, which she didn't want to do.

Before I knew this you could tell there was something "wrong" with the way she talked, very throaty and she would open her mouth wider than most people.
 
2013-04-10 04:58:59 PM  

kiwimoogle84: Two things-

One, there's a fine line between a picky kid and a kid with a disorder. Having worked at a pediatric therapy office, I know the difference. I think it's 90% in the parenting approach, like it has been said this thread.

If your kid will only eat orange food because it's his favorite color? Give him sweet potatoes and squash and carrots and oranges. THAT CHILD DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE ON MAC N CHEESE. *facepalm*

And two, I had an adult friend who didn't like vegetables. She's that lady who puts bacon, crispy chicken, cheese and ranch on a single leaf of lettuce and calls it a salad. She always used to complain about her weight. I went, you know, if you made a veggie ONLY salad for lunch every day, you'd probably lose a ton of weight. She was APPALLED at the suggestion. She also didn't feed her kids veggies because she "figured" they wouldn't like them either. BAD PARENT.

I've dated some picky eaters, turns out their moms were just shiatty cooks. I can make sautéed Brussels sprouts and stuffed zucchini that would make your taste buds sing. You don't have to straight boil veggies to cook them.

This girl will be dead in under five years. Calling it now.


My dad avoided mint chip ice cream for years because he had some bad version of it when he was a kid. He loves it now. I know ice cream isn't healthy but the concept of trying something made bad probably does make people think the food is terrible. I like to try foods several times several different ways before I say I don't like it. I've done this with mushrooms and sushi. I just don't like them. This is a recent thing though because I was super picky as a kid. But I've discovered foods, especially Asian and pacific islander foods, to be very good when I thought I would not like it. I used to look at a food and think it looked weird so I said I didn't like it. Now I'm open to trying anything. Well except eyeballs. I finally ate squid tentacles about a month ago. It was good!
 
2013-04-10 05:01:58 PM  

kiwimoogle84: kiwimoogle84: pciszek: cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself

At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.

Bizarre toppings? Shoot, my hemade pizza is healthier than some salads out there. Wheat crust, pesto and a little Alfredo sauce, shreds of zucchini, bell peppers, onions, olives, grilled chicken strips, spinach, and lean mozzerella and feta cheese. And now I know what I'm making for dinner. *rummages through the fridge*

See, some of you talk about the vegetables and how some folks don't like them. Me? I will eat any veggie I can get my hands on, but I don't do fruit that isn't fresh. I can't handle slimy preserves or lumps of soggy fruit in yogurt. I also don't like peanut butter. Something in how it smells makes me feel sick. So I always preferred turkey sandwiches as a kid- no big deal.

/FYI, adding pesto to a turkey sandwich makes it so much better

Er, homemade pizza. Lost a couple letters there.


I thought it sounded like some dude was going to make it.
 
2013-04-10 05:18:56 PM  

Beeblebrox: kiwimoogle84: kiwimoogle84: pciszek: cardex: Pizza is not that bad for you assuming you don't eat an entire large in on sitting by yourself

At least pizza contains proteins and fats in addition to the carbohydrates, some calcium from the cheese, and whatever vitamins can be found in tomato sauce.  A sufficiently bizarre choice of toppings might even expand this list a bit.  Noodles, on the other hand, are just starch.

Bizarre toppings? Shoot, my hemade pizza is healthier than some salads out there. Wheat crust, pesto and a little Alfredo sauce, shreds of zucchini, bell peppers, onions, olives, grilled chicken strips, spinach, and lean mozzerella and feta cheese. And now I know what I'm making for dinner. *rummages through the fridge*

See, some of you talk about the vegetables and how some folks don't like them. Me? I will eat any veggie I can get my hands on, but I don't do fruit that isn't fresh. I can't handle slimy preserves or lumps of soggy fruit in yogurt. I also don't like peanut butter. Something in how it smells makes me feel sick. So I always preferred turkey sandwiches as a kid- no big deal.

/FYI, adding pesto to a turkey sandwich makes it so much better

Er, homemade pizza. Lost a couple letters there.

I thought it sounded like some dude was going to make it.


Special sauce?
 
2013-04-10 05:22:52 PM  
My Grandmother convinced my Dad that he wouldn't like a number of foods because she didn't like them and didn't want to buy or prepare them for anyone as a result...one of these foods being cheesecake.

My Mom broke my Dad of his "I don't like cheesecake" thing pretty early in their relationship.
 
2013-04-10 05:24:35 PM  
Variety is the spice of life. Eating the same thing for years is crazy.
 
2013-04-10 05:30:29 PM  
I was a fairly picky eater. My parents just did the old "eat it because that's all you're getting" routine. It didn't exactly make me a well-rounded eater but I managed not to get scurvy and die.

My wife is a horrifically picky eater, to the point that occasionally I want to stab myself in the brain when we start talking about where we should go for dinner.
 
2013-04-10 05:31:01 PM  

SueDisco: My Grandmother convinced my Dad that he wouldn't like a number of foods because she didn't like them and didn't want to buy or prepare them for anyone as a result...one of these foods being cheesecake.

My Mom broke my Dad of his "I don't like cheesecake" thing pretty early in their relationship.


My mother in law hates cheesecake, except the two pieces she ate at our wedding and every time you dine with her and order cheesecake, where she samples half of it. Or the times she eats the cheesecake I make. Yet, she will tell you how much she hates it.
 
2013-04-10 05:33:20 PM  

pciszek: Splish: I think we're probably talking about different groups when we say "medical professionals" then.  Or maybe you haven't dealt with some parts of the population in general.  There are definitely doctors out there who are quirky, egotistical, kooky, misguided, just plain weird, etc.  They may even say and do idiotic things from time to time.  But none of them are idiots at large.

There is Representative Paul Broun, who somehow managed to become a doctor without learning any basic science.  Other Republicans have managed to find "doctors" who agree with their bizarre "biology of rape".


I think you're mistaking lunacy for idiocy.  Broun may well be crazy, but he's not stupid.
 
2013-04-10 05:34:30 PM  

4seasons85!: kiwimoogle84: Two things-

One, there's a fine line between a picky kid and a kid with a disorder. Having worked at a pediatric therapy office, I know the difference. I think it's 90% in the parenting approach, like it has been said this thread.

If your kid will only eat orange food because it's his favorite color? Give him sweet potatoes and squash and carrots and oranges. THAT CHILD DOESN'T HAVE TO LIVE ON MAC N CHEESE. *facepalm*

And two, I had an adult friend who didn't like vegetables. She's that lady who puts bacon, crispy chicken, cheese and ranch on a single leaf of lettuce and calls it a salad. She always used to complain about her weight. I went, you know, if you made a veggie ONLY salad for lunch every day, you'd probably lose a ton of weight. She was APPALLED at the suggestion. She also didn't feed her kids veggies because she "figured" they wouldn't like them either. BAD PARENT.

I've dated some picky eaters, turns out their moms were just shiatty cooks. I can make sautéed Brussels sprouts and stuffed zucchini that would make your taste buds sing. You don't have to straight boil veggies to cook them.

This girl will be dead in under five years. Calling it now.

My dad avoided mint chip ice cream for years because he had some bad version of it when he was a kid. He loves it now. I know ice cream isn't healthy but the concept of trying something made bad probably does make people think the food is terrible. I like to try foods several times several different ways before I say I don't like it. I've done this with mushrooms and sushi. I just don't like them. This is a recent thing though because I was super picky as a kid. But I've discovered foods, especially Asian and pacific islander foods, to be very good when I thought I would not like it. I used to look at a food and think it looked weird so I said I didn't like it. Now I'm open to trying anything. Well except eyeballs. I finally ate squid tentacles about a month ago. It was good!


Though, if food makes you sick when you first try it, most people have a hard time breaking out of the "do not eat this" mode. It's most likely a (probably very successful) evolutionary thing. Even knowing this, I can't eat cheese curds or soft pretzels because they made me sick when I was younger.
 
2013-04-10 05:36:04 PM  
The people who think this is real make me feel sad, because there is no way it could be true for she would have died long ago from scurvy. Then there is the matter of protein along with a whole host of other items since the noodles are only starch and the flavor packets are pretty much all artificial.
 
2013-04-10 05:36:10 PM  

Jument: I was a fairly picky eater. My parents just did the old "eat it because that's all you're getting" routine. It didn't exactly make me a well-rounded eater but I managed not to get scurvy and die.

My wife is a horrifically picky eater, to the point that occasionally I want to stab myself in the brain when we start talking about where we should go for dinner.


That conversation, picky eating aside, will make you consider self-lobotomy. My husband once said to a friend, "the most annoying thing about my wife is talking about going out to dinner."

I'm pleased that of all the annoying things I do, that's the one that bothers him enough to talk about.
 
2013-04-10 05:41:44 PM  

Wikious: 4seasons85!: kiwimoogle84: Two things-

My dad avoided mint chip ice cream for years because he had some bad version of it when he was a kid. He loves it now. I know ice cream isn't healthy but the concept of trying something made bad probably does make people think the food is terrible. I like to try foods several times several different ways before I say I don't like it. I've done this with mushrooms and sushi. I just don't like them. This is a recent thing though because I was super picky as a kid. But I've discovered foods, especially Asian and pacific islander foods, to be very good when I thought I would not like it. I used to look at a food and think it looked weird so I said I didn't like it. Now I'm open to trying anything. Well except eyeballs. I finally ate squid tentacles about a month ago. It was good!


Though, if food makes you sick when you first try it, most people have a hard time breaking out of the "do not eat this" mode. It's most likely a (probably very successful) evolutionary thing. Even knowing this, I can't eat cheese curds or soft pretzels because they made me sick when I was younger.

My husband wouldn't eat mint-chocolate anything for a long long time. Its not a huge thing, as its not like its a nutrient rich dessert, but I found out the reason is that he suffered from really bad migraines between 7-11 years old and his parents were given a list of trigger foods for migraines and one of the ones that seemed to correspond to his migraines was mint-chocolate foods (ice cream, Thin Mints, Andes, etc.) and so they insisted he could not eat those things and after a while, the aversion was created.

Now, he'll eat some Andes mints or whatever, but if he gets a headache within a few days of eating them, he denounces the mint-chocolate foods as migraine inducing and its almost funny... actually, I laugh at him to his face, because his headaches are mostly caffeine related (if he consumes any, he'll have a headache for a few days after, so he doesn't consume it...)
 
2013-04-10 05:44:24 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: SueDisco: My Grandmother convinced my Dad that he wouldn't like a number of foods because she didn't like them and didn't want to buy or prepare them for anyone as a result...one of these foods being cheesecake.

My Mom broke my Dad of his "I don't like cheesecake" thing pretty early in their relationship.

My mother in law hates cheesecake, except the two pieces she ate at our wedding and every time you dine with her and order cheesecake, where she samples half of it. Or the times she eats the cheesecake I make. Yet, she will tell you how much she hates it.


My mother is the pickiest eater I know, though if you ask her she claims she eats EVERYTHING as long as it's not spicy.

HA.

The woman thinks black onions, pepper, and garlic are all spicy. She doesn't eat beans because they make her bloated. Soda and carbonation "burns her throat." Half the veggies she won't eat because they don't agree with her. Meat has to be cooked perfectly or she'll pick at it. She only likes one kind of salad dressing. Refuses to eat anything crispy or deep fried. Hates rice of any kind because it reminds her of Mexican food.

Then again, this is the woman who I swear is a professional anorexic because she's terrified of being fat, so she lives on protein bars and tomatoes- her favorite food.

But she eats ANYTHING. *eyeroll*
 
2013-04-10 05:59:15 PM  

kiwimoogle84: But she eats ANYTHING. *eyeroll*


My Mom has a friend like that...she's a total whackadoodle. She asks questions like, "What kind of oil is this cooked with?" and "How much black pepper do you use to season this?" before ordering, even something simple like a grilled chicken sandwich.  She's not allergic to anything, just crazy.  I also think she's masking an eating disorder.

My Mom labeled me a picky eater as a kid because there were a handful of things I didn't like (beef stroganoff and meatloaf...still gross).  Now I think she's pickier than I am...I'll eat all kinds of ethnic stuff she's afraid of.  If she'd try it, she'd like it.  She's just skerrrred...also, she claims she saw a worm in sushi at a grocery store once so that's forever off the list.
 
2013-04-10 06:00:39 PM  
OMG, Kiwi, stop... You're describing my MIL. I had to put my head down on my desk to laugh this out. She likes all food!

Chinese Food: Its not like they make in Boston (where she's from) so its not good. Difficulty: Asian food =/= Chinese food. In WA, we have Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, Indian, etc.

Mexican: I didn't grow up eating that, so I can't eat it.

She gets really, really upset if she gains 5lbs, then she goes on Atkins for 3-6 weeks, restricts all carbs and loses the weight, then she binges on desserts and breads. That's why I like to mention that my husband weighed 121lbs at his lowest. She gets really upset about her grown son weighing less than her.
 
2013-04-10 06:15:15 PM  

Richard C Stanford: This is just evolution in action. Let the little biatch die of malnourishment.


Larry Niven  Evolution in Action™ (Oath of Fealty)
 
2013-04-10 06:18:51 PM  
I god damn hate the Sun. Who keeps submitting this lazy garbage?
 
2013-04-10 06:22:41 PM  

ImpatientlyUnsympathetic: OMG, Kiwi, stop... You're describing my MIL. I had to put my head down on my desk to laugh this out. She likes all food!

Chinese Food: Its not like they make in Boston (where she's from) so its not good. Difficulty: Asian food =/= Chinese food. In WA, we have Thai, Vietnamese, Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian, Indian, etc.

Mexican: I didn't grow up eating that, so I can't eat it.

She gets really, really upset if she gains 5lbs, then she goes on Atkins for 3-6 weeks, restricts all carbs and loses the weight, then she binges on desserts and breads. That's why I like to mention that my husband weighed 121lbs at his lowest. She gets really upset about her grown son weighing less than her.


121 at his LOWEST? Y'all must be short. I haven't weighed 121 since 8th grade. I don't think Mr Kiwi has weighed that since sixth grade (he was 5'9 by the time he hit 8th grade, is 6'3 now). My current mantra through this pregnancy is "I WILL NOT HIT 200 lbs." Though for my height, it's pretty likely that I might. (Oh and to answer your previous q, yes we have honeycrisps in CA though I'm partial to fuji's)

But yeah, sadly, people are strange. Denial is a bizarre thing. I've gone to a nice dinner with my parents and my mom will pick at an array of Chinese food dishes and say whatever they were cooked with, it's burning her throat. And she'll sit at the table and eat half a Luna bar while we politely ignore her and stuff our faces.

Going back on topic, if you sit a well rounded plate of food in front of a kid, and one parent tells the other parent how freaking delicious these grilled thyme zucchini quarters are, the kid will dig right in. They're absolutely subject to persuasion. Like injuries. Instead of babying the kid when he trips and cooing and coddling for a tiny bruise, just pick him up, dust him off, and tell him he's ok and send him off to play again. Guess which kid will be better adjusted?
 
2013-04-10 06:29:17 PM  
Mr. Unsympathetic might have cleared 5'7. I'm 5'2. My dad's side of the family all clear 6' (men and women) but my brother is crazy tall compared to my mom's side of the family. The tallest guy in my mom's side of the family (before my brother was full grown, at 6'4) was 5'6. My cousin's sons (from my dad's side) have cleared 6'6 and 6'7.

/When not training for ultramarathons, he walked around at 130-135.
//Now that he's not running every day, he's around 140. Super muscular.
 
2013-04-10 09:05:17 PM  

Richard C Stanford: This is just evolution in action. Let the little biatch die of malnourishment.


FTA: The 5ft 3in teen weighs just seven stone and has the health equivalent to that of an 80-year-old.

It may be sooner than we think, mercifully.
 
2013-04-10 09:35:54 PM  

Lord Dimwit: I've known at least two children (my nephew and a child of a friend) who couldn't speak more than babbling and "mama/dada" at the age of two and a half, but their pediatricians always said "they're fine, they're fine." I don't get it, how is that possible? Are the developmental milestones really that loose? (They're not; I've checked.)

You'd think these people would be reprimanded by their licensing boards or something.


When my eldest was 2 he was not speaking yet. Our pediatrician was concerned to the point he freaked us out pretty hard. He ordered hearing tests, half a dozen different types of evaluations (autism, etc) and at one point even an MRI (the boy has a big head and he thought that was "wrong"). All the results came back fine. So the doctor then concludes we should get speech therapy for the boy and hooks us up with contacts.

We do as told, get him into speech therapy four times a week. A few weeks in the speech therapist's conclusion - there is absolutely nothing wrong with the boy mentally or physically. It's not that he can't talk, it's that he doesn't talk unless he has something to say. The doctor had freaked us out so hard that something was terribly, terribly wrong with our son and come to find out there wasn't a damn thing wrong with him.

Fast forward ten years. Turns out the boy is just a bit of an introvert and a pensive kind of person. Get him with people he is comfortable around, talking about a subject he is interested in and he will not shut up. If he is not comfortable around you, flat out doesn't like you, or if the topic is not of interest he will sit there quietly feigning interest to appear polite.
 
2013-04-10 10:09:13 PM  

pciszek: Splish: I think we're probably talking about different groups when we say "medical professionals" then.  Or maybe you haven't dealt with some parts of the population in general.  There are definitely doctors out there who are quirky, egotistical, kooky, misguided, just plain weird, etc.  They may even say and do idiotic things from time to time.  But none of them are idiots at large.

There is Representative Paul Broun, who somehow managed to become a doctor without learning any basic science.  Other Republicans have managed to find "doctors" who agree with their bizarre "biology of rape".


I think you need professional help with your, "retard" problem...
 
2013-04-10 10:18:49 PM  
I guess we're lucky. We haven't found a food yet our kids won't eat; this goes for every vegetable you can imagine.
 
2013-04-11 07:24:06 AM  

kiwimoogle84: Going back on topic, if you sit a well rounded plate of food in front of a kid, and one parent tells the other parent how freaking delicious these grilled thyme zucchini quarters are, the kid will dig right in. They're absolutely subject to persuasion. Like injuries. Instead of babying the kid when he trips and cooing and coddling for a tiny bruise, just pick him up, dust him off, and tell him he's ok and send him off to play again. Guess which kid will be better adjusted?


That doesn't always work. My kids never believe me when I tell them something tastes good. Hell, I can't even get one of them to eat hot dogs. What kind of kid doesn't like hot dogs?
 
2013-04-11 09:17:17 AM  

Ranger Rover: stonicus: One of my ex's would complain about garlic, said it made it hard for her to breathe is she ever ate any. So I did experiments.

You are frightening. I understand that you proved your point, but you are frightening.


*blush*  Thank you... =)
 
2013-04-11 11:31:17 AM  

Your Average Witty Fark User: I guess we're lucky. We haven't found a food yet our kids won't eat; this goes for every vegetable you can imagine.


We made the mistake of introducing our kids to sushi too early. That gets expensive!

Got them down to one sushi night a week at one of the half-decent conveyor-belt places.
 
2013-04-11 11:44:54 AM  

xcv: Parenting should require a license. I've seen photos of my ancestors that came from dirt-poor peasantvilles; the men were incredibly short and stout. I doubt it was all from childhood diseases alone, their diet consisted almost exclusively of the bread and potatoes that manifests today in old family recipes. Their American-born children were significantly taller.

These shiatty parents shouldn't be allowed to stunt their kids' physical and mental growth just so mom or dad can avoid a mealtime argument and keep watching their stories on the telly uninterrupted.


Are you sure that all this rapid growth isn't simply the result of all the BGH and other crap that finds its way into the American foodstream?

My Chinese roommates and Thai cousins who grew up in the US are much taller than their parents too... and I'm pretty sure their ancestors had a wonderfully rich and diverse diet back in their homelands.
 
2013-04-11 02:42:50 PM  
My nephew may have a milder case of "selective eating disorder".

I am somewhat skeptical of this concept, but it is not impossible that there is such a disorder, as opposed to parents and other caregivers or guardians caving entirely on the issue of trying new foods before you decide you don't like them.

My nephew is somewhat fat and pasty with some sort of disorder or other, but seems healthy enough, so his short list of acceptable foods seems to be adequate.

This girl obviously must be cheating some how because pot noodles are simply not nutritious enough to keep you alive into your teens. She may be getting her vitamins through hidden eating (possibly even sleep-eating) or beverages. If you drank milk, juice, and other nutritional beverages with your noodles and ate meat, fish, dairy products or soup, you could live on pot noodles in the same way that cornflakes and a nutritious breakfast make a nutritious breakfast.

My nephew's peculiarities may be due to 1) brain damage from an accident when he was younger; 2) an incident when he was very sick (the doctor was an asshole and joked about him dying, this to very sick and impressionable seven year old or thereabouts) and 3) inheritance.

My sister and brother were picky eaters, my sister more so. I ate most of what was put in front of me although I hated cold lumpy potatoes. My uncle was the same way. The potatoes had to be hot enough to melt butter. I also disliked a number of foods intermittantly, although I could eat them. Tomatoes were something I sometimes hated and sometimes liked as a child. It depended on how they tasted and texture, I am sure. I have never liked drinking milk, although I drank chocolate milk as a child. I weened myself of the bottle at nine months, insisting on a sippy cup and then giving up milk for most of my life, except under duress or occasional brief flings.

I believe many of my nephew's psychological traits are the result of genetic or epigenetic inheritance, combined with a double dose from both Father and Mother. He might be high functioning Autistic or have Asperger's Syndrome. Both have been suggested and fit many of his traits.

Or he could just be a Generation Y a-hole.

I am open to factual evidence and argument.

But this "selective eating disorder" seems to be more common and not entirely independent of attitudes towards food mass-produced by the media and allowed, if not encouraged by home life.

Even my nephew can be coaxed to try something new once in a while, and his repertory of accepted foods has slightly increased since childhood.

I regard macrobiotic diets and other fads as BS and my theory is that it is healthiest and safest to eat a wide variety of food from a wide variety of sources. Even if some of the stuff is laden with lead or other heavy metals, for example, you won't get a lot if you vary your suppliers as much as possible.

My favourite meal is the smorgasbord or buffet, followed by the banquet, the family reunion dinner, and the browsing through everything in the fridge and cupboards. I likes my variety. I am the opposite of a picky eater. I am a liberal or catholic eater with a few exceptions to my catholic (omnivorous) tastes.

I thus remain open to both environment and heredity as factors in the multiplication of modern psychological disorders, or as we used to call them, vices and bad habits.
 
2013-04-11 02:52:28 PM  
Pot noodles always taste to me like something that has been left in plastic packaging for too long and consequently absorbed chemicals from the plastic bag.

I've thrown away unopened snack food for tasting like that after a few years on the top shelve. It can't be good for you to eat too much of this stuff, although technically it is not spoiled or stale, just contaminated with God knows what, Bisphenol A and such.

It's amazing how long something will last in foil bags though, even if they have been opened, if you seal them tightly. I have a number of bags of potato chips that are months old, maybe more than a year, but they taste just fine and are exactly like a fresh bag even though I gave up on them when I got bored with the flavour for a while.

Maybe the survivalists that stock-pile snack foods for the post-Apocalyptic world are on to something. You might never see another can of edible or palatable vegetables, but you can make a stock pile of junk food that will last you years.
 
2013-04-11 03:17:53 PM  

brantgoose: My nephew may have a milder case of "selective eating disorder".

I am somewhat skeptical of this concept, but it is not impossible that there is such a disorder, as opposed to parents and other caregivers or guardians caving entirely on the issue of trying new foods before you decide you don't like them.

My nephew is somewhat fat and pasty with some sort of disorder or other, but seems healthy enough, so his short list of acceptable foods seems to be adequate.

This girl obviously must be cheating some how because pot noodles are simply not nutritious enough to keep you alive into your teens. She may be getting her vitamins through hidden eating (possibly even sleep-eating) or beverages. If you drank milk, juice, and other nutritional beverages with your noodles and ate meat, fish, dairy products or soup, you could live on pot noodles in the same way that cornflakes and a nutritious breakfast make a nutritious breakfast.

My nephew's peculiarities may be due to 1) brain damage from an accident when he was younger; 2) an incident when he was very sick (the doctor was an asshole and joked about him dying, this to very sick and impressionable seven year old or thereabouts) and 3) inheritance.

My sister and brother were picky eaters, my sister more so. I ate most of what was put in front of me although I hated cold lumpy potatoes. My uncle was the same way. The potatoes had to be hot enough to melt butter. I also disliked a number of foods intermittantly, although I could eat them. Tomatoes were something I sometimes hated and sometimes liked as a child. It depended on how they tasted and texture, I am sure. I have never liked drinking milk, although I drank chocolate milk as a child. I weened myself of the bottle at nine months, insisting on a sippy cup and then giving up milk for most of my life, except under duress or occasional brief flings.

I believe many of my nephew's psychological traits are the result of genetic or epigenetic inheritance, combined with a do ...


As soon as you said "Aspie" and "Accidental Brain Damage", you nephew probably has something like this.

My brother is handicapped and all the kids in his classes fell into 2 categories when it came to food: "Eat all the things!" or "Eat very few foods". There was no in between.

Aspie and other brain damaged kids can have weird sensory issues that can effect taste and food. My family sorta lucked out because my brother is practically a vacuum cleaner. My brother instead has hearing sensory issues, crowded and loud places are hell on earth for him.

I would urge to get your nephew tested for sensory issues and Aspie, the accident and near death could have caused brain damaged. Even if your nephew is a "Gen Y Asshole" a diagnosis is the only way to get treatment and help him in social situations.

My currently fighting my Dad about this with my brother, I want my brother to get officially recognized as an Aspie and get treatment for it. My Dad is in denial.

It's very sad to see my brother struggle with social situations and being completely unable to find a job due to this (which may be the underlying reason why my Dad is in denial).

The younger the better for treatment.
 
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