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(Gothamist)   Now's the time to regulate the furries of Times Square and render them impotent before they multiply   (gothamist.com) divider line 62
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2013-04-10 12:12:21 PM
I thought we had to embrace our differences. Those would have to include furries.

/ or that's what everybody says about gay marriage; are furries denied rights because they are furries?
 
2013-04-10 12:13:15 PM
Elmo is a furry now?

And Dora?

And Spiderman?
 
2013-04-10 12:15:33 PM
I daresay the arguments for regulation are a bit... Fuzzy
 
2013-04-10 12:15:53 PM
Finally! Lets get rid of these weirdo freaks! Furocaust 2013!
 
2013-04-10 12:17:12 PM
So Times Square has been turned into a cheesy theme park attraction.  Do none of those "performers" have to pay royalties to the intellectual property holders of the characters they portray?
 
2013-04-10 12:18:22 PM
"Super Mario groped the woman," says Times Square Alliance president Tim Tompkins. "Elmo was ranting anti-Semitic things. Spider-Man punched a woman in the face. Now a kid was attacked by Cookie Monster. And those are just ones where there's been an arrest! We've anecdotally heard there's a lot more that's been happening. One of my staff members said an Elmo patted her backside when she was walking through Times Square on a crowded day." Tompkins also pointed us to a photo of a man dressed as Toy Story's Woody urinating in a doorway (photo #6).


Provided I'm able to stay far enough away from Woody and his puddles, all this makes me more likely to visit Times Square. It sounds entertaining.
 
2013-04-10 12:18:49 PM
Problem is, when you regulate it, you're also implicitly saying it's okay. I'd rather we just get rid of them altogether.
 
2013-04-10 12:20:25 PM
The Baseball Furies? Pretty sure they aren't from Time Square...
 
2013-04-10 12:23:04 PM
Authorities need to stop this before the freaks get mixed up with the drug addicts. There's nothing worse than a furry with the syringe on top.
 
2013-04-10 12:24:06 PM
Flamethrower.
 
2013-04-10 12:24:13 PM
There's already some NYC law about wearing masks in public.
 
2013-04-10 12:26:08 PM
why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.
 
2013-04-10 12:31:31 PM
    Dear subby,
You may think N Korea and Iran are a joke; terrorists are clowns. But let me warn you, enrage the furries,
earn their animosity, and hell will fall down upon you, your family, your extended family, your neighborhood.
   signed,
Wheelchair bound survivor
 
2013-04-10 12:35:31 PM
www.warehouse23.com
 
2013-04-10 12:38:23 PM
NEW YORK Penal Law 240.35 (4):
Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place; except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the police or other appropriate authorities; (National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter paper on the

(law dates from 1845)
 
2013-04-10 12:39:31 PM
i49.tinypic.com
 
DB
2013-04-10 12:42:56 PM

TheHighlandHowler: NEW YORK Penal Law 240.35 (4):
Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place; except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the police or other appropriate authorities; (National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter paper on the

(law dates from 1845)


As TFA pointed out, the mask law only applies to a group, not an individual.
 
2013-04-10 12:44:03 PM

I_Can't_Believe_it's_not_Boutros: Authorities need to stop this before the freaks get mixed up with the drug addicts. There's nothing worse than a furry with the syringe on top.


You may have said this before, but damned if it ever gets old.

Lutrasimilis: Elmo is a furry now?

And Dora?

And Spiderman?


The fandom definition's pretty loose as it is. I'd imagine anything from baseball mascots to drawing Pokemon art would be considered "furry" in the right (wrong?) context.

/Of course, that all-encompassing perspective is probably why the mere mention of furries on the Internet tends to conjure images most horrifying
 
2013-04-10 12:46:10 PM

Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.


Because for the last 80 years every song, TV show, music video, movie, etc. set in or about New York has mentioned Times Square as the crossroads of the world?

I love how New Yorkers get butthurt about tourists.  If you spend all your time and money bragging about how awesome the place is, what do you expect?
 
2013-04-10 12:46:51 PM
Just demand that they show proof of citizenship. They'll clear out in a hurry.
 
2013-04-10 12:46:53 PM
I was grabbed and bear hugged by that same cookie monster just last month.  I wasn't sure if I should have paid him or charged him, so I just walked away.  As a NYer it's easy for me to walk away, a measly tourist wouldn't stand a chance.
 
DB
2013-04-10 12:47:08 PM
Anti-semite Elmo was the best.
 
2013-04-10 12:48:22 PM
I was hoping for Renamon or something. Oh well.
 
2013-04-10 12:50:31 PM

ds_4815: The fandom definition's pretty loose as it is. I'd imagine anything from baseball mascots to drawing Pokemon art would be considered "furry" in the right (wrong?) context.


Woody from Toy Story. Japanese Robot. Cookie Monster.

Hard to see the connection.
 
2013-04-10 12:52:55 PM
It only takes one anti-Semitic groping freak peeing in a doorway to ruin it for everybody.
 
2013-04-10 12:54:47 PM

Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.


Because Times Square has a reputation (outside New York) of being the heart of the city, the "downtown" of New York where it's like all of New York City summed up as one thing.  Of course, it earned that reputation decades ago, and everything that made it unique was exterminated to turn it into a gentrified homogenous pablum that is, as you said, like any mall on Earth.

Somehow though, the idea of fursuited/costumed grifters mugging people, urinating in doorways and groping women makes me smile, like the spirit of Times Square lives even though they cleaned it up on the surface.
 
2013-04-10 01:02:44 PM

iheartscotch: I thought we had to embrace our differences. Those would have to include furries.

/ or that's what everybody says about gay marriage; are furries denied rights because they are furries?


that road leads to turtle farking
 
2013-04-10 01:06:16 PM
Standing around in a creepy costume doesn't warrant a tip from passers-by.

Groping would get one of their plastic eyeballs rammed into a place that is very uncomfortable, regardless if the costume was anatomically correct or required an orifice be created for that specific purpose.

Anti-semite Elmo might get my attention...not because I'm against Jewish folks, but because someone ranting will always get me to slow down for a moment (like the religeous nutter that repeatedly screams "REPENT!!!!" on a corner here in downtown Pittsburgh).

If you want to see Real BuskingTM , then you need to get to Mallory Square (where the weird go pro.)

/artcle is meh...NYer's problems.
//Trip Advisor reviews of Mallory Square busking, all 2,300 of 'em with an avg of 4.5/5
///slashie trifecta.
 
2013-04-10 01:15:15 PM
Maybe I missed it,  but where were furries (as in the Furry Fandom) mentioned? Sounds more like asshole street performers to me.

Most fursuiters that I know of would rather go around and not ask for money for random pictures. *shrug*
 
2013-04-10 01:15:32 PM
What's really annoying is that some of them may $200.00+/day. That has the potential of over $70K/yr in cash....how many of them are actually paying taxes on that money? Are they avoiding taxes and getting Government benefits?
 
2013-04-10 01:16:02 PM

Fano: iheartscotch: I thought we had to embrace our differences. Those would have to include furries.

/ or that's what everybody says about gay marriage; are furries denied rights because they are furries?

that road leads to turtle farking


I was being snarky. The same people who have LGBT bumper stickers are just as guilty of furry hate as the jebus fish people.

/ if they aren't hurting anybody; and they are obeying the law, nobody should care if they dress up like bizarro stormie and lick the foot of a bearded lady.
 
2013-04-10 01:19:29 PM

TheHighlandHowler: There's already some NYC law about wearing masks in public.


the keene act was repealed after we didn't have a nuclear war
 
2013-04-10 01:20:18 PM
Personally, I like the fact that the tourists congregate in Times Square, and eat at places like Olive Garden. It keeps the buggers away from the good places.
 
2013-04-10 01:22:04 PM
I always thought those guys worked for Disney / Warner Bros etc. They're all basically panhandlers with a theme?

I will not feel badly in the future telling them to get the fark out of my way when they're standing on a corner between me and a yellow light.
 
2013-04-10 01:24:10 PM

StrangeQ: So Times Square has been turned into a cheesy theme park attraction.  Do none of those "performers" have to pay royalties to the intellectual property holders of the characters they portray?


Don't be a copyright troll about this.
 
2013-04-10 01:27:41 PM
Also apologies to the homosexual community for using your slur against furries.
 
2013-04-10 01:36:55 PM

Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.


It leaves the good parts of the city for the rest of us.
 
2013-04-10 01:38:03 PM
uhhhh... yeah.

www.catmankeywest.com
 
2013-04-10 01:50:32 PM
regulation? no need. Enforce deportation laws and the problem takes care of itself.
 
2013-04-10 01:54:12 PM

StrangeQ: So Times Square has been turned into a cheesy theme park attraction.  Do none of those "performers" have to pay royalties to the intellectual property holders of the characters they portray?


LOL

Well, if pressed, they are "Elmar" and "Dana the Adventurer" i'm sure, but i doubt the immigrant South Americans that are often the ones in these costumes care much about the royalty system or copyright infringement.
 
2013-04-10 01:55:22 PM
It's got to be a really shiatty way to make a living. I'm sure that if they had a better option, they'd take it. OTOH I guess most of them are homeless crazy people. Not exactly the best ambassadors for the city.
 
2013-04-10 02:13:21 PM
I blame Giuliani
 
2013-04-10 02:16:25 PM
Thread needs more fur
images.wikia.com

New Cheetara is so much better than's 80's Cheetara
 
2013-04-10 02:23:08 PM
Can we do the same thing in Hollywood please?? It's disgusting... Also if you haven't seen the documentary "Confessions Of A Superhero" check it out... It's about some of the people who dress up for a living and bother tourists. Pathetic but hilarious!
 
2013-04-10 02:27:47 PM
I work for one of the companies whose intellectual property is being used, unlicensed, on Times Square.  I'd also mention we are located right on Times Square itself.

I know this is a gathering concern for our bigwigs, as these costumes are essentially representing our brand(s).  Obviously they are not sanctioned, but there is awareness that some Cookie Monster feeling up some kid or some Spiderman punching out some old lady could lead to a lawsuit.  Even if not that, then just erosion in trust.  It takes a video or picture of that and...  y'know.

I expect a crackdown.  Last year there were a few of these guys, almost a handful.  Now they're everywhere.  The summer will be worse.
 
2013-04-10 02:34:46 PM

antron: [i49.tinypic.com image 524x500]


No.

You never initiate Exfurminatus with anything less than obliterating firepower

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-10 02:50:35 PM
You don't need any new laws to take care of these guys.

Have two small female cops go without uniformt o take pictures and not pay, when they are threatened, or attacked throw the farking book at them.

Once word gets out they can't ask ar berate peopel for money most will go away.

Problem solved.
 
2013-04-10 03:24:40 PM
Catch, neuter and release might work but how likely is it that furries will ever actually have sex?

/Yiffing doesn't count
 
2013-04-10 03:28:54 PM
These guys are all over the Vegas strip. They're pretty funny actually. It's kind of unsettling to see two Mickey Mouses (Mickey Mice?) standing on the same block, one with a dirty, moth eaten costume. Your brain is screaming at you that one of them is an imposter.

Oh yeah, they don't move. They just stand there looking creepy.
 
2013-04-10 03:39:45 PM
This guy feels your pain
encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com
 
xcv
2013-04-10 03:49:24 PM

ferretman: What's really annoying is that some of them may $200.00+/day. That has the potential of over $70K/yr in cash....how many of them are actually paying taxes on that money? Are they avoiding taxes and getting Government benefits?


I hear them ask for $2 a pic. Even if they're keeping the change from a tourist's $5 or $10 that kind of income level would require a constant fark load of customers.

Hopefully a NYC summer will naturally cull the fursuit population.
 
2013-04-10 03:49:36 PM

UNC_Samurai: antron: [i49.tinypic.com image 524x500]

No.

You never initiate Exfurminatus with anything less than obliterating firepower

[images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 564x480]


He's got a canon for a penis, but it's so small...  You would think they would have given him a bigger penis cannon with some balls at least?
 
2013-04-10 04:21:46 PM

DB: Anti-semite Elmo was the best.


I saw anti-Semite Elmo ranting in front of Macy's Herald Square back in December. He was in costume but had the Elmo head off & was holding it under his arm. At first I assumed he was angry with the Salvation Army bell ringers but then I realized he was THAT Elmo.
 
2013-04-10 04:47:06 PM
Vegas is off the rails with this shiat, but at least they have fake showgirls out there hustling change. Are there any fake Rockettes in Times Square?

The best one I saw in Vegas was a guy who looked exactly like Zach Galifianakis in The Hangover. The only fur he had on was his (real) beard, and he had the aviator shades and a doll in the baby carrier and everything.

And then there was the naked Homer Simpson. He had on just a dingy yellow body sock and a Homer mask, and I think he was drunk. It was at the same time the saddest and funniest thing I ever saw.
 
2013-04-10 06:00:51 PM

phaseolus: Provided I'm able to stay far enough away from Woody and his puddles, all this makes me more likely to visit Times Square. It sounds entertaining.


In NYC, you always have to looking out for number 1.
 
2013-04-10 06:06:44 PM

TheHighlandHowler: NEW YORK Penal Law 240.35 (4):
Being masked or in any manner disguised by unusual or unnatural attire or facial alteration, loiters, remains or congregates in a public place with other persons so masked or disguised, or knowingly permits or aids persons so masked or disguised to congregate in a public place; except that such conduct is not unlawful when it occurs in connection with a masquerade party or like entertainment if, when such entertainment is held in a city which has promulgated regulations in connection with such affairs, permission is first obtained from the police or other appropriate authorities; (National Lawyers Guild NYC Chapter paper on the

(law dates from 1845)


As TFA explains, the law has been interpreted to mean that two or more masked people are acting in concert.  Each "furry" acts independently so the law does not apply.
 
2013-04-10 06:55:21 PM

Silverstaff: Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.

Because Times Square has a reputation (outside New York) of being the heart of the city, the "downtown" of New York where it's like all of New York City summed up as one thing.  Of course, it earned that reputation decades ago, and everything that made it unique was exterminated to turn it into a gentrified homogenous pablum that is, as you said, like any mall on Earth.

Somehow though, the idea of fursuited/costumed grifters mugging people, urinating in doorways and groping women makes me smile, like the spirit of Times Square lives even though they cleaned it up on the surface.


Yeah, give me back the Times Square of my youth! (40 years ago)
The prostitutes, the winos, the smells!
Never make eye contact, never stop moving, never answer a direct question!
Where a twelve year old boy (me) could walk into a store, buy a cheap sword, and keep on walking.
Good times
 
2013-04-10 07:00:37 PM

iheartscotch: I thought we had to embrace our differences. Those would have to include furries.

/ or that's what everybody says about gay marriage; are furries denied rights because they are furries?


Furries are fine.  Bronies must be executed.
 
2013-04-10 07:04:52 PM
I guess that the Naked Cowboy would be unaffected,.
 
2013-04-10 08:01:14 PM

tinyarena: Silverstaff: Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.

Because Times Square has a reputation (outside New York) of being the heart of the city, the "downtown" of New York where it's like all of New York City summed up as one thing.  Of course, it earned that reputation decades ago, and everything that made it unique was exterminated to turn it into a gentrified homogenous pablum that is, as you said, like any mall on Earth.

Somehow though, the idea of fursuited/costumed grifters mugging people, urinating in doorways and groping women makes me smile, like the spirit of Times Square lives even though they cleaned it up on the surface.

Yeah, give me back the Times Square of my youth! (40 years ago)
The prostitutes, the winos, the smells!
Never make eye contact, never stop moving, never answer a direct question!
Where a twelve year old boy (me) could walk into a store, buy a cheap sword, and keep on walking.
Good times


Even about 20 years it was fascinating. Sex shops and hookers as far as the eye could see... And shops that were selling obviously illegal products. Not just foreign porn featuring performers of questionable age, but counterfeit items of all kinds.

I remember going into a peep show there, as a 20-something tourist, and being allowed to physically interact (in a limited-though-definitely-intimate-way) with the dancer. And she was cute, too (but then, so was I). After growing up in the midwest, I was stunned that this place was even allowed to exist in America, and now here I was being allowed to do something I had previously only done to people I dated, and all for a one dollar tip plus the cost of opening the peep window.

The bisexual woman was acting as my tour guide heard my description of the event and said, "Damn. I've lived here all my life, and I never even though to  ask  if I could do that!"

And seriously: There were things in that shop that made me think it was going to be raided by SWAT teams at any moment.

I also saw the biggest rat I've ever seen while visiting New York City. The damned thing was the size of a small terrier.

 It sounds like Times Square sort of sucks now. It sounds like a crappy giant mall with fursuited panhandlers bugging people left and right. I haven't been back there since before 9/11. I think I'll wait a while before going back.
 
2013-04-10 09:00:04 PM

Tax Boy: why tourists insist on hanging about in times square is a complete mystery to me. there's nothing there but shiatty restaurants, tourist-trap souvenir shops, and the same stores you'd find at any mall in the world (just bigger).

there's so much to do and see in nyc, and they all just hang out there 24-7.


I have been to NY many times to see people and hang out and only recently had a reason to be in Times Square (I was with someone who loves musicals).

Times Square is god awful and I understand why people foolish enough to spend their time only there hate NY. Just being there made me feel dumb and easily duped out of money. It was obnoxious, worthless, and the food was shiat in one of the best places in the world for food.

/ at least i didnt give any to the god damn furries though
 
2013-04-10 10:45:32 PM
I guess I never knew that these guys *weren't* regulated. Hard to imagine that; even buskers are to some degree. And AFAIK they don't regularly assault passersby for change.
 
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