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He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Just remember citizens. Laws are for the rest of us, not our betters.

Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?

Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

Bob "The Trans-V" McDonnell

I'd much prefer a Trans-Am, thank you.

My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian

WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.

Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?

No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that $3,500. Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption. And you're assuming that people don't care about politicians taking bribes and kickbacks. Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps? Nah, its just a plain vanilla kickback. Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor. /Virginian Don't sweat it. Bob will build another toll road. /works too damn close to the Governor's Mansion Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing How I read that the first time: Sounds like his fiances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing Which made me wonder how long it will be before some Bible-drunken state passes a hymen check law for new brides. The Trans-Vestite? The Trans-Vaginal? The Trans-Vaal? /creepy pic accompanying the article BTW Lochsteppe: Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing How I read that the first time: Sounds like his fiances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing Which made me wonder how long it will be before some Bible-drunken state passes a hymen check law for new brides. Depends.. what's the time now? Bob McDonald sucks. And he's not very good at his job either. Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps? No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that$3,500.

THIS!

The commie leftist fatb0ng0 ball huffing nitwits who are going to spend my hard-earned tax dollars to investigate this are the real crooks!

I say we shoot him, then hang him!

>The gift came from Jonnie R. Williams Sr., chief executive of Star Scientific Inc., a company near Richmond that makes dietary supplements.

Well then. I thought that name sounded familiar. So the head of a company that is suing the state over a tax bill paid for the Governor's daughter's wedding catering. That same company was also initially set to go up against the Commonwealth's Attorney's office in court until Cuch got called out on the fact that there just might be a conflict of interest because he is an investor of said company. Then it became "Well it's not really necessary for my office to recuse itself from this but I'm going to go ahead and do so just to prevent the appearance of impropriety."

Louisiana politics ain't got shiat on us Virginians.

WTF Indeed: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.

And you're assuming that people don't care about politicians taking bribes and kickbacks.

We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them.

Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing

His lawyers have ways of shutting it down.

Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court. Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public. The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco. Sounds legit. The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them. No, you're talking about a group of people in South Carolina who live in a R+10 district choosing between their former Congressman and several other candidates in a Republican primary. I'm talking about a possible Presidential candidate who will have to go to 49 other states where he isn't beloved and answer questions as to why he was taking kickbacks and bribes. It's almost like context is an important part of this particular matter. Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps? They call it a "kickback". Texas Governor Rick Perry's entire jobs/business support program is founded on the concept. Texas maintains a gigantic slush fund, controlled entirely by the Governors office, to pay cash to the CEOs of companies to move their operations to Texas, in return for those companies paying back into the fund and the Texas GOP party coffers. They're quite open about it. Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps? No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that$3,500.

Oh, it doesn't stop there.

Although he should have been indicted for far greater crimes, I'm pleased to see this minor one may stain his reputation/get him in trouble.  Here's hoping.

\lives in Virginia
\\it has always sucked, but particularly so with McDonnell

MFK: Just remember citizens. Laws are for the rest of us, not our betters.

THIS.

Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court. Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public. The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco. Sounds legit. Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned? SpectroBoy: I say we shoot him, then hang him! You hang them first. It makes them easier to hit, and they jump around with the slug's impacts. Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor. /Virginian ^ This. One normally has to travel to Illinois or Louisiana to see political shenanigans of this level. I may have mentioned this before in some of the Virginia stance on Gay Marriage threads but I plan on spending as much money as I can in the Maryland side and DC for my upcoming nuptials and to mail in an itemized receipt along with a letter to the Governor explaining why, as a Virginian, I would choose to take my wedding money to another economic area rather than keep it home. This kind of story only makes the wait to mail that letter that much harder. Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing My reaction is basically legitimately this without the double-entendre. This may or may not be grounds for criminal and civil penalties on its own, but regardless it sounds like it's detailed IRS and campaign watchdog Audit time. Deathfrogg: They call it a "kickback". Texas Governor Rick Perry's entire jobs/business support program is founded on the concept. Texas maintains a gigantic slush fund, controlled entirely by the Governors office, to pay cash to the CEOs of companies to move their operations to Texas, in return for those companies paying back into the fund and the Texas GOP party coffers. They're quite open about it. The difference is that Texas' business-incentives fund is above-board. It's not "open about it" in the sense of being shameless, it's open about it in the sense that the authorization of the funds and their use to incentivize businesses to relocate have been explicitly approved by vote of congress. TFA is talking about taking funds legally restricted to campaign use and spending them on private expenses, which is a different thing and actually illegal. Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps? No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that$3,500.

Oh, please libtardos!  Governor McDonnell is a man of honor!  Here is a direct quote: "As you know, under the reporting laws, the gifts that come to me, I report. And I've been doing this for 22 years. Gifts that come to me, I regularly and diligently report those."

See?  He reports his gifts!  And if he does not report something, it is by definition not a gift!  Suck it libs!

Also, pay no attention to this libellious lie in the article:

The catering company was owned by Todd Schneider, who had trained with Martha Stewart and was hired by the McDonnells to serve as the chief chef of the Executive Mansion in 2010.

Schneider left his job in 2011 amid a Virginia State Police investigation into alleged improprieties in kitchen operations. He was recently charged with four counts of embezzlement. Through an attorney, he declined to comment.

All of that is ancient history! Water under the bridge!   http://js.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/ex-chef-at-va-governor s -mansion-charged/2013/03/28/891cbdb2-97d7-11e2-97cd-3d8c1afe4f0f_story .html

There is no reason to dig up an old story from two weeks ago just to drag this good man's name through the mud, unless you are a shameless political myrmidon who thinks nothing of destroying peoples' reputations just to score a few political points for your team.  For shame!

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court. Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public. The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco. Sounds legit. Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned? Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself. Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer? Now THAT sounds fishy. This. I call shenanigans. Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing Watched "The Three Stooges" with my kids the other day, and it had a law firm called "Proba, Keester & Wintz". The kids laughed so hard one of them said "I can't breathe". KatjaMouse: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed$13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.

Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?

Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself.

http://www.wcyb.com/news/Cuccinelli-to-recuse-office-in-Star-Scienti fi c-tax-suit/-/14590844/19630844/-/5fxh1m/-/index.html

He paid the deposit.  Donor paid for majority of the wedding (not against the law).  He got a refund for part of the deposit not used.  It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me.  Change the laws, even China doesn't allow gifts to immediate family members because it is the simplest way around corruption protections in place.

In other news, fundie pols use ordinary people's religion against them as a smoke screen while they embezzle, cheat, lie and steal.

This is not a repeat from every year since forever.

Paul Baumer: KatjaMouse: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court. Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public. The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco. Sounds legit. Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned? Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself. http://www.wcyb.com/news/Cuccinelli-to-recuse-office-in-Star-Scienti fi c-tax-suit/-/14590844/19630844/-/5fxh1m/-/index.html Maybe it was Friday when I heard that update. When you listen to NPR on your commute and through much of the weekend some stories tend to bleed together. Jeez, his precious little crotch-fruit is apparently old enough to get married but isn't old enough or responsible enough to either A) pay for her own damn wedding; or B) participate effectively in a work-around of campaign finance and financial disclosure laws? Come on, if he trusted her at all then the donor could have and should have just cut the check straight to the daughter. Why is Bobby calling the shots and signing the contracts? Shang-High: He paid the deposit. Donor paid for majority of the wedding (not against the law). He got a refund for part of the deposit not used. It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me. Change the laws, even China doesn't allow gifts to immediate family members because it is the simplest way around corruption protections in place. But in this case the gifts weren't reported as they were gifts made to McDonell's immediate family rather than himself. It's one of those kinds of situations that most ethics boards would be all over. This contribution was not approved by the FDA. This contribution may or may not have health benefits as claimed by the manufacturer. WTF Indeed: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them. No, you're talking about a group of people in South Carolina who live in a R+10 district choosing between their former Congressman and several other candidates in a Republican primary. I'm talking about a possible Presidential candidate who will have to go to 49 other states where he isn't beloved and answer questions as to why he was taking kickbacks and bribes. It's almost like context is an important part of this particular matter. Fair enough, we can't extrapolate one district of republicans to the whole of the US. However I note that in the last round of presidential primaries a man who is on his third marriage after cheating on his previous two wives did very well with the 'family values' crowd who make up a lot of the GOP and the eventual winner was a man who had a very long and complicated financial history that the GOP base tried very very hard to avoid looking into at all The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead. you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption. Yeah they're all assholes, not like our side. Shang-High: It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me. No one is really questioning the legality (although I certainly agree it stinks) - it's the idea that he didn't consider it necessary to disclose it that is the issue. 5 figure "gifts" from companies in legal conflict with the state would seem to rise to the level of a mandatory disclosure at a minimum. I am getting pretty sick of people using the 'married' loophole to get around or out of things. An Aussie mining magnate claimed he only earnt$15k last year (from the family trust) whilst under investigation bu authorities (his wife dolled out his allowance, from the family trust.)

I say we ban marriage, just get rid of it - I do not care if you are farking someone and/or creating children, you are each responsible for your own crap.

Reached for comment, McDonnell released the statement, "So I hear Cuccinelli wants to outlaw blowjobs... whats up with that?"

(and then he ran away)

These people should all be shot.  What a joke.

What a joke.

Hey Bob, Imma go out on a limb here and let you know that your new son in law was inserting his foreign object into your daughters vagina on your kitchen table just before you and the wife sat down for dinner.

Stoj: These people should all be shot.  What a joke.

What a joke.

Works for Clarence Thomas.

They're everywhere.

Jim_Callahan: The difference is that Texas' business-incentives fund is above-board. It's not "open about it" in the sense of being shameless, it's open about it in the sense that the authorization of the funds and their use to incentivize businesses to relocate have been explicitly approved by vote of congress.

But don't you DARE ask for an audit of the fund!

Reminds me of Chris Christie's actions regarding privitization of halfway houses in New Jersey. No government oversight. No accountability.

the refund check of more than $3,500 went to McDonnell's wife But the law does not require the disclosure of gifts to the official's family members. I wonder if McDonnell and the missus have a joint checking account. Has Fox News put his name in a graphic with a (D) next to it yet? The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: Fair enough, we can't extrapolate one district of republicans to the whole of the US. However I note that in the last round of presidential primaries a man who is on his third marriage after cheating on his previous two wives did very well with the 'family values' crowd who make up a lot of the GOP and the eventual winner was a man who had a very long and complicated financial history that the GOP base tried very very hard to avoid looking into at all Again, context. Newt won two state primaries, his home state and the state next to his home state. At that rate, McConnell will still lose by a wide margin in a 2016 campaign. WTF Indeed: who will have to go to 49 other states where he isn't beloved I think that number is really 50, actually. The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead. you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption. Why should they? the Democrats don't. Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor. /Virginian You don't know scumbags then. Try Martin OweMalley across the river from you. As a former Virginian, I'd take McDonnell over O'Malley any day of the week. At least you're running a budget surplus down there, aren't trampling all over constitutional rights, and have a balance between NoVA and the rest of the state on the federal level..... tallen702: aren't trampling all over constitutional rights Like the Right To Shove Something Up Your Coont. McDonnell has been way out in front on making sure that is respected. He's working on the Right To Receive Kickbacks From Companies Accused Of Stealing From The State even as we speak. After John Edwards got away with his shenanigans, what do you expect? Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor. /Virginian The name of the company owned by the guy that cut the$15,000 check seems awfully familiar.   Isn't this the same company that makes up Kenny the Kook's entire stock portfolio and only reported tangible asset?

I am just going to leave this classic here:

Murdering, Lying, Thieving, Rat F*** Pieces of Sub-Amphibian Sh**....

...mendacious, death-loving, frothing, lamprey-mouthed, inhuman, abominable, atrocious, verminous, rapacious, sadistic, bullying, invasive, grasping, psychopathic, twisted, warped, animalistic, belly-crawling, mouth-breathing, illiterate, innumerate, know-nothing, imbecilic, sheep-raping, horror movie extras masturbating into wads of money while fantasizing about war collateral damage...(inhale)...puppy-torturing, vacuous, mindless, nihilistic, evil, diseased, soulless, morally bankrupt, greedy, insecure, envious, kleptomaniac charnel-house mascots stewing in universal hatred for all life...(inhale)...toxic, ugly, bestial, humorless, loveless, compassionless, demonic human-shaped ruins forever slouching toward Bethlehem in search of some fresh nightmare to wreak on the defenseless via other people's money and heroism...(inhale)...Satanic monkey-shiat-throwing, cowardly, chickenhawkish, parasitic, baby's-candy-stealing, wife-beating, minority-purging, syphilitic Confederate poltergeists with erectile dysfunction...

...perverse, prurient, crocodile-eyed, necrophiliac mass-producers of human misery and gleeful destroyers of truth, justice, and the American way...sepulchre-hearted human deserts walking the Earth only to look for more victims...silly, stupid, ignorant bastards proud of every good thing they've never done, every person they've never been considerate toward, every fact they've never learned and will never acknowledge, and every virtue they will never possess or even attempt to comprehend...preternaturally drunken, bleary-eyed, zombie-like, empty vessels who wander aimlessly until given instruction by their masters...unthinking, unquestioning, unfeeling diabolus ex machina mockeries of the human condition, perpetually acting out a burlesque of the basest and least interesting psychological dysfunctions...
...face-chewing, self-devouring, medieval barbarian museum dioramas and depraved Nazi homunculi preserved in formaldehyde to frighten children...sick, ominous, loathsome,  Nosferatu-impersonating Gollum-acolytes feasting on the flesh of our society while complaining about its taste...tax-evading, sommelier-abusing, election-buying, yacht-aficionado hemmorhoids flying flags of convenience and berating their six-year-old Chinese employees for requesting bathroom breaks...
Republicans, you vile, repulsive, scum.  You're not leading this country.  You're not contributing to this country.  You're not even part of this country.  You are the maggot-ridden rot that arises in this country's damaged flesh; you are the vultures constantly picking at us to see if we're weak enough yet to become your next meal; you create problems where none would otherwise exist, just to further weaken America and quicken your own insatiable appetites; you are garbage, and you are traitors.  And you are not welcome in this country anymore.

tallen702: Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian

You don't know scumbags then. Try Martin OweMalley across the river from you. As a former Virginian, I'd take McDonnell over O'Malley any day of the week. At least you're running a budget surplus down there, aren't trampling all over constitutional rights, and have a balance between NoVA and the rest of the state on the federal level.....

Yeah, um, how many Marylanders have been threatened with trans-vaginal rape for an unnecessary medical procedure?

Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

looks like a good old-fashioned kickback:
The catering company was owned by Todd Schneider, who had trained with Martha Stewart and was hired by the McDonnells to serve as the chief chef of the Executive Mansion in 2010.
Schneider left his job in 2011 amid a Virginia State Police investigation into alleged improprieties in kitchen operations. He was recently charged with four counts of embezzlement. Through an attorney, he declined to comment.
The catering documents indicate that the company offered the McDonnells a significant discount for the event. They were charged $30 a head for food that would generally cost$50 per guest. Discounts were also provided for equipment rentals and staffing costs. The documents also indicate that alcohol was to be supplied by the client.

well, given all that i'm willing to GUARANTEE McDonnell won;t be re-elected as governor.

/Va's 1-term limit for governors is the most asinine thing about often incredibly asinine state.

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?

The same.

He's also the Liberty-educated shmuck who had to politically back away from having written this

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/25/us/politics/25virginia.html

even as he has continued to pursue the very policies it describes.

And he just lost.  In a Laugher.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/04/09/1843231/full-federal-app ea ls-court-unanimously-rejects-cuccinellis-bid-to-reinstate-anti-sodomy- law/?mobile=nc

He should have just put up campaign posters at his daughters wedding and invited donors that way he could find some sleazy way to declare it an election event and have the money used come from his campaign coffers.

Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian

If Cookie gets the nomination, is it clear sailing for the Democrats?  Of course, he DID get elected as AG in the first place, didn't he?

tallen702: Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian

You don't know scumbags then. Try Martin OweMalley across the river from you. As a former Virginian, I'd take McDonnell over O'Malley any day of the week. At least you're running a budget surplus down there, aren't trampling all over constitutional rights, and have a balance between NoVA and the rest of the state on the federal level.....

You sound conservative.  And stupid.  I guess I could just say one, and the other is given.

ComicBookGuy: Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian

If Cookie gets the nomination, is it clear sailing for the Democrats?  Of course, he DID get elected as AG in the first place, didn't he?

Smooth sailing? Not by a long shot. He's pandered to the Tea Party but he is turning the tractor knob as quickly as he can to steer it back to the middle of the road. Rural Virginians generally have short memories for candidates with an (R) by their names.

WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

If Santorum ends up the republican nominee, then the dems will coast to the WH.

Unlike with the crooked Democrats in NY, nothing will be done.

Albert911emt: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

If Santorum ends up the republican nominee, then the dems will coast to the WH.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Santorum was mainly a "none of the above" vote for people who couldn't stand Romney, and looked in horror at the rest. Seriously, have there ever been three candidates less viable than Bachmann, Cain and Gingrich? The first two were so easily ridiculed that you felt bad doing it, and the third is one of the least popular people on the planet.

Some GOP governor will run who ISN't zonked on painkillers the way Rick Perry was, and sweep all those sideshow acts aside. I still think the Democrats win in 2016, given Hillary as a candidate or someone who can beat her in the primaries, because the demographics keep trending that way.

mbillips: Albert911emt: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

If Santorum ends up the republican nominee, then the dems will coast to the WH.

Yeah, that's not going to happen. Santorum was mainly a "none of the above" vote for people who couldn't stand Romney, and looked in horror at the rest. Seriously, have there ever been three candidates less viable than Bachmann, Cain and Gingrich? The first two were so easily ridiculed that you felt bad doing it, and the third is one of the least popular people on the planet.

Come on... do you really think Cain and Gingrich threw their hats in the ring because they truly wanted to be POTUS?  It was a publicity stunt to enhance their real jobs.

Albert911emt: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

If Santorum ends up the republican nominee, then the dems will coast to the WH.

And begun, the GOP wars will.

xxmedium - I guess I thought no one would be insane enough to vote for him.Of course, I thought the same about Rand Paul, too.

'Trans-v'?

Oh y'all mean RAPE by Proxy.

Proxy rape is an actual crime. Its like where you tell someone to kill that particular person and hey the cops arrest you for ordering the murder.

/Oh but of course politicians do not have to abide by the common peoples law. Peasants if you will.
//Non-necessary medical procedure. Oh and hey you need an enema by Guido before that immunization shot.

Aw man, they aren't going to let Cooch talk about bjs and booty banging.,,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/10/ken-cuccinelli-sodomy_n_305 17 58.html?1365604120

MFK: Just remember citizens. Laws are for the rest of us, not our betters.

I laughed my ass off - he's not just a liar, but he's a stupid liar, at that. "No one would ever look at the paperwork for my daughter's wedding, nor would they actually examine a canceled check, so I can blithely lie about this clear violation of Virginia law to, well, everyone!"

I understand that politicians are crooked. I'm willing to accept a reasonable amount of graft. What I'm unwilling to accept is someone in the office too stupid to reasonably cover his or her tracks in doing so - someone dumb enough to fail this easily on something this simple, is someone dumb enough to make really bad legislative decisions in the name of his constituency. Virginia voters should find that offensive.

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