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(Washington Post)   Virginia's Governor Bob "The Trans-V" McDonnell would like you to know that he had nothing to do with spending $15,000 of campaign donor money on his daughter's wedding, even though the caterer's $3,500 refund check came straight to him   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 79
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2013-04-10 09:12:11 AM
He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.
 
MFK
2013-04-10 09:13:02 AM
Just remember citizens. Laws are for the rest of us, not our betters.
 
2013-04-10 09:13:12 AM

Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.


Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?
 
2013-04-10 09:13:32 AM
Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.
 
2013-04-10 09:14:39 AM
Bob "The Trans-V" McDonnell

I'd much prefer a Trans-Am, thank you.
 
2013-04-10 09:14:54 AM
My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian
 
2013-04-10 09:17:08 AM

WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.


you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.
 
2013-04-10 09:17:21 AM

Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?


No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that $3,500.
 
2013-04-10 09:19:38 AM
Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing
 
2013-04-10 09:19:45 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.


And you're assuming that people don't care about politicians taking bribes and kickbacks.
 
2013-04-10 09:22:01 AM

Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?


Nah, its just a plain vanilla kickback.
 
2013-04-10 09:23:10 AM

Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian


Don't sweat it. Bob will build another toll road.

/works too damn close to the Governor's Mansion
 
2013-04-10 09:23:32 AM

Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing


How I read that the first time: Sounds like his fiances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing

Which made me wonder how long it will be before some Bible-drunken state passes a hymen check law for new brides.
 
2013-04-10 09:24:30 AM
The Trans-Vestite?
The Trans-Vaginal?
The Trans-Vaal?

/creepy pic accompanying the article BTW
 
2013-04-10 09:25:05 AM

Lochsteppe: Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing

How I read that the first time: Sounds like his fiances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing

Which made me wonder how long it will be before some Bible-drunken state passes a hymen check law for new brides.


Depends.. what's the time now?
 
2013-04-10 09:25:56 AM
Bob McDonald sucks.  And he's not very good at his job either.
 
2013-04-10 09:26:07 AM

Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?

No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that $3,500.


THIS!

The commie leftist fatb0ng0 ball huffing nitwits who are going to spend my hard-earned tax dollars to investigate this are the real crooks!
 
2013-04-10 09:27:27 AM
I say we shoot him, then hang him!
 
2013-04-10 09:28:25 AM
>The gift came from Jonnie R. Williams Sr., chief executive of Star Scientific Inc., a company near Richmond that makes dietary supplements.

Well then. I thought that name sounded familiar. So the head of a company that is suing the state over a tax bill paid for the Governor's daughter's wedding catering. That same company was also initially set to go up against the Commonwealth's Attorney's office in court until Cuch got called out on the fact that there just might be a conflict of interest because he is an investor of said company. Then it became "Well it's not really necessary for my office to recuse itself from this but I'm going to go ahead and do so just to prevent the appearance of impropriety."

Louisiana politics ain't got shiat on us Virginians.
 
2013-04-10 09:28:57 AM

WTF Indeed: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.

And you're assuming that people don't care about politicians taking bribes and kickbacks.


We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them.
 
2013-04-10 09:29:13 AM

Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing


His lawyers have ways of shutting it down.
 
2013-04-10 09:31:35 AM
Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.
 
2013-04-10 09:34:55 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them.


No, you're talking about a group of people in South Carolina who live in a R+10 district choosing between their former Congressman and several other candidates in a Republican primary. I'm talking about a possible Presidential candidate who will have to go to 49 other states where he isn't beloved and answer questions as to why he was taking kickbacks and bribes.  It's almost like context is an important part of this particular matter.
 
2013-04-10 09:34:57 AM

Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?


They call it a "kickback". Texas Governor Rick Perry's entire jobs/business support program is founded on the concept. Texas maintains a gigantic slush fund, controlled entirely by the Governors office, to pay cash to the CEOs of companies to move their operations to Texas, in return for those companies paying back into the fund and the Texas GOP party coffers. They're quite open about it.
 
2013-04-10 09:36:26 AM

Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?

No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that $3,500.


Oh, it doesn't stop there.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/mcdonnell-mum-on-oth er -possible-gifts-from-starscientific-head/2013/04/08/f3b2af2c-a076-11e2 -be47-b44febada3a8_story.html
 
2013-04-10 09:36:46 AM
Although he should have been indicted for far greater crimes, I'm pleased to see this minor one may stain his reputation/get him in trouble.  Here's hoping.

\lives in Virginia
\\it has always sucked, but particularly so with McDonnell
 
2013-04-10 09:36:55 AM

MFK: Just remember citizens. Laws are for the rest of us, not our betters.


THIS.

westernrifleshooters.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-10 09:37:15 AM

Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.


Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?
 
2013-04-10 09:37:19 AM

SpectroBoy: I say we shoot him, then hang him!


You hang them first. It makes them easier to hit, and they jump around with the slug's impacts.
 
2013-04-10 09:38:40 AM

Walker: My governor is a scumbag, although not as big a scumbag as his attorney general kooky-inelli, who is running for governor.

/Virginian


^ This.

One normally has to travel to Illinois or Louisiana to see political shenanigans of this level.
 
2013-04-10 09:40:49 AM
I may have mentioned this before in some of the Virginia stance on Gay Marriage threads but I plan on spending as much money as I can in the Maryland side and DC for my upcoming nuptials and to mail in an itemized receipt along with a letter to the Governor explaining why, as a Virginian, I would choose to take my wedding money to another economic area rather than keep it home.

This kind of story only makes the wait to mail that letter that much harder.
 
2013-04-10 09:40:53 AM

Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing


My reaction is basically legitimately this without the double-entendre.

This may or may not be grounds for criminal and civil penalties on its own, but regardless it sounds like it's detailed IRS and campaign watchdog Audit time.

Deathfrogg: They call it a "kickback". Texas Governor Rick Perry's entire jobs/business support program is founded on the concept. Texas maintains a gigantic slush fund, controlled entirely by the Governors office, to pay cash to the CEOs of companies to move their operations to Texas, in return for those companies paying back into the fund and the Texas GOP party coffers. They're quite open about it.


The difference is that Texas' business-incentives fund is above-board.  It's not "open about it" in the sense of being shameless, it's open about it in the sense that the authorization of the funds and their use to incentivize businesses to relocate have been explicitly approved by vote of congress.

TFA is talking about taking funds legally restricted to campaign use and spending them on private expenses, which is a different thing and actually illegal.
 
2013-04-10 09:41:37 AM

Yakk: Alphax: Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.

Is that a money laundering technique, perhaps?

No perhaps about it, this whole wedding was a scam to get that $3,500.


Oh, please libtardos!  Governor McDonnell is a man of honor!  Here is a direct quote: "As you know, under the reporting laws, the gifts that come to me, I report. And I've been doing this for 22 years. Gifts that come to me, I regularly and diligently report those."

See?  He reports his gifts!  And if he does not report something, it is by definition not a gift!  Suck it libs!

Also, pay no attention to this libellious lie in the article:

The catering company was owned by Todd Schneider, who had trained with Martha Stewart and was hired by the McDonnells to serve as the chief chef of the Executive Mansion in 2010.

Schneider left his job in 2011 amid a Virginia State Police investigation into alleged improprieties in kitchen operations. He was recently charged with four counts of embezzlement. Through an attorney, he declined to comment.


All of that is ancient history! Water under the bridge!   http://js.washingtonpost.com/local/va-politics/ex-chef-at-va-governor s -mansion-charged/2013/03/28/891cbdb2-97d7-11e2-97cd-3d8c1afe4f0f_story .html

There is no reason to dig up an old story from two weeks ago just to drag this good man's name through the mud, unless you are a shameless political myrmidon who thinks nothing of destroying peoples' reputations just to score a few political points for your team.  For shame!
 
2013-04-10 09:43:39 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.

Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?


Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself.
 
2013-04-10 09:44:20 AM

Marcus Aurelius: He got a refund from his caterer?

Now THAT sounds fishy.


This. I call shenanigans.
 
2013-04-10 09:45:55 AM

Mixolydian Master: Sounds like his finances need to have a mandatory, intrusive probing


Watched "The Three Stooges" with my kids the other day, and it had a law firm called "Proba, Keester & Wintz". The kids laughed so hard one of them said "I can't breathe".
 
2013-04-10 09:47:07 AM

KatjaMouse: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.

Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?

Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself.


http://www.wcyb.com/news/Cuccinelli-to-recuse-office-in-Star-Scienti fi c-tax-suit/-/14590844/19630844/-/5fxh1m/-/index.html
 
2013-04-10 09:47:42 AM
He paid the deposit.  Donor paid for majority of the wedding (not against the law).  He got a refund for part of the deposit not used.  It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me.  Change the laws, even China doesn't allow gifts to immediate family members because it is the simplest way around corruption protections in place.
 
2013-04-10 09:48:45 AM
In other news, fundie pols use ordinary people's religion against them as a smoke screen while they embezzle, cheat, lie and steal.

This is not a repeat from every year since forever.
 
2013-04-10 09:49:16 AM

Paul Baumer: KatjaMouse: StreetlightInTheGhetto: Paul Baumer: Oh, and the state Attorney-General, who is running for Governor, Ken Cuccinelli, had invested in Star Scientific two months after it filed suit against the Commonwealth in July 2011.The same year, Cuccinelli disclosed $13,000 in gifts from Star Scientific's chief executive, Jonnie R. Williams. The case remains ongoing in Circuit Court.  Cooch was forced to recuse himself when this was made public.

The company makes dietary supplements out of tobacco.  Sounds legit.

Is this the guy who thinks oral sex should be banned?

Yup. that's the guy. Although as of Monday when I last heard about the Star Scientific story the official word was that Cuccinelli didn't see any reason why his office should recuse itself.

http://www.wcyb.com/news/Cuccinelli-to-recuse-office-in-Star-Scienti fi c-tax-suit/-/14590844/19630844/-/5fxh1m/-/index.html


Maybe it was Friday when I heard that update. When you listen to NPR on your commute and through much of the weekend some stories tend to bleed together.
 
2013-04-10 09:51:47 AM
Jeez, his precious little crotch-fruit is apparently old enough to get married but isn't old enough or responsible enough to either A) pay for her own damn wedding; or B) participate effectively in a work-around of campaign finance and financial disclosure laws?  Come on, if he trusted her at all then the donor could have and should have just cut the check straight to the daughter.  Why is Bobby calling the shots and signing the contracts?
 
2013-04-10 09:52:20 AM

Shang-High: He paid the deposit.  Donor paid for majority of the wedding (not against the law).  He got a refund for part of the deposit not used.  It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me.  Change the laws, even China doesn't allow gifts to immediate family members because it is the simplest way around corruption protections in place.


But in this case the gifts weren't reported as they were gifts made to McDonell's immediate family rather than himself. It's one of those kinds of situations that most ethics boards would be all over.
 
2013-04-10 09:54:32 AM
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2013-04-10 09:56:30 AM

WTF Indeed: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: We're talking about a group of people who can go on all day about family values and then turn around and nominate a dude who abandoned his governorship post to go bang his mistress in Argentina. They're more than capable of ignoring affronts to their states beliefs when it suits them.

No, you're talking about a group of people in South Carolina who live in a R+10 district choosing between their former Congressman and several other candidates in a Republican primary. I'm talking about a possible Presidential candidate who will have to go to 49 other states where he isn't beloved and answer questions as to why he was taking kickbacks and bribes.  It's almost like context is an important part of this particular matter.


Fair enough, we can't extrapolate one district of republicans to the whole of the US. However I note that in the last round of presidential primaries a man who is on his third marriage after cheating on his previous two wives did very well with the 'family values' crowd who make up a lot of the GOP and the eventual winner was a man who had a very long and complicated financial history that the GOP base tried very very hard to avoid looking into at all
 
2013-04-10 09:57:03 AM

The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: WTF Indeed: Another 2016 frontrunner down. Rick Santorum still in the lead.

you're assuming the GOP rank and file give a shiat about campaign finance corruption.


Yeah they're all assholes, not like our side.
 
2013-04-10 09:57:23 AM

Shang-High: It all stinks, but it doesn't sound illegal to me.


No one is really questioning the legality (although I certainly agree it stinks) - it's the idea that he didn't consider it necessary to disclose it that is the issue.  5 figure "gifts" from companies in legal conflict with the state would seem to rise to the level of a mandatory disclosure at a minimum.
 
2013-04-10 10:13:47 AM
I am getting pretty sick of people using the 'married' loophole to get around or out of things.

An Aussie mining magnate claimed he only earnt $15k last year (from the family trust) whilst under investigation bu authorities (his wife dolled out his allowance, from the family trust.)

I say we ban marriage, just get rid of it - I do not care if you are farking someone and/or creating children, you are each responsible for your own crap.
 
2013-04-10 10:16:31 AM
Reached for comment, McDonnell released the statement, "So I hear Cuccinelli wants to outlaw blowjobs... whats up with that?"

(and then he ran away)
 
2013-04-10 10:18:05 AM
These people should all be shot.  What a joke.

Oh gifts to your family members from donors aren't reportable?

What a joke.
 
2013-04-10 10:21:04 AM
Hey Bob, Imma go out on a limb here and let you know that your new son in law was inserting his foreign object into your daughters vagina on your kitchen table just before you and the wife sat down for dinner.
 
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