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Peter von Nostrand		2013-04-10 08:19:13 AM

Good to see the sequester has not changed the levels of right wing butthurt and making shiat up, right subby

Nabb1		2013-04-10 08:25:58 AM

Don't question your betters, submitter.

xanadian		2013-04-10 08:36:32 AM

Yes, I also saw the massive number of FW:FW:FW:RE:FW emails and Facebook posts on this.

EyeballKid		2013-04-10 09:19:05 AM

Surely, the only solution to this outrage is more tax cuts for the rich.

Sybarite		2013-04-10 09:19:27 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Good to see the sequester has not changed the levels of right wing butthurt and making shiat up, right subby

Bring it on down to Butthurtville!

Fart_Machine		2013-04-10 09:20:05 AM

White House Tours are the new Benghazi.

soup		2013-04-10 09:20:23 AM

But the real question is, is Benghazi a scandal yet?

WTF Indeed		2013-04-10 09:21:00 AM

To be fair, did you see the concert on PBS? That sh*t was awesome.

SlothB77		2013-04-10 09:23:33 AM

I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

soup		2013-04-10 09:26:30 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

This happens in office environments outside of the big evil government, too, you know. In fact, I've never worked in an office where we directly controlled the heat/AC. Always had to get building management involved and it was always too hot or too cold.

If only I had known I could just blame Obama, though...

Lost Thought 00		2013-04-10 09:31:16 AM

First off, it wasn't a private concert. Second, these things are booked years in advanced and can't be canceled quickly without costing you more money. Tours can be turned on and off at will with no additional costs.

James!		2013-04-10 09:31:33 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

Wait, so building management (private company) is refusing to turn off the heat so your girlfriend's boss is being a decent human being and letting them leave? That evil government stooge.

Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

phaseolus		2013-04-10 09:31:41 AM

SlothB77: The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that.

Hmm. I guess that conservatively-correct privatization has unintended consequences, huh?

Philip Francis Queeg		2013-04-10 09:33:20 AM

Some are reporting that the concert cost 1.3 Billion dollars and required the rerouting of 2 aircraft carriers and an armored division.

Jake Havechek		2013-04-10 09:34:13 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

You know, it makes it cheaper for the business, whichever business that may be, that in multi-story office buildings, everybody cannot jack their own personal thermostat up and down. It makes the company or organization more efficient by not getting killed by high electric bills by ensuring a consistent use of resources at optimum times. Seasons do not always follow the calendar, but you knew that.

Being a pro business guy I would expect you to understand that.

Being a boot-strapping "rugged individual", you should tell your g/f to deal with it, and toughen up.

Raharu		2013-04-10 09:34:25 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse		2013-04-10 09:34:29 AM

James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

Well that obvious, look who she's dating

Jackson Herring		2013-04-10 09:35:46 AM

Nabb1: Don't question your betters, submitter.

what even is this

Philip Francis Queeg		2013-04-10 09:38:22 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

Many older boiler systems were designed to be turned on in the fall and turned off in the spring. They were not designed for anything approaching specific control. Replacing boiler systems is quite expensive. Your girlfriend (by the way, how does a Canadian get a job with the Federal Government?) is either working in a privately owned building which the government is able to rent cheaply because of the antiquated systems, or is working in a government owned building where the money has not been available to modernize the systems.

Either way, the problem you have identified is not due to government waste, but to government austerity.

thurstonxhowell		2013-04-10 09:40:20 AM

SlothB77: My g/f works in a government building in DC.

SlothB77: This is why competent people don't work for the government.

Why are you calling your right hand incompetent?

UNC_Samurai		2013-04-10 09:41:06 AM

James!: SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

Wait, so building management (private company) is refusing to turn off the heat so your girlfriend's boss is being a decent human being and letting them leave? That evil government stooge.

Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

This is also a great argument for why "What if we sold it and just leased it from a private company?" is an utterly terrible idea.

James!		2013-04-10 09:45:32 AM

UNC_Samurai: This is also a great argument for why "What if we sold it and just leased it from a private company?" is an utterly terrible idea.

*ahem*... prisons... *cough*

I mean, yes.

Jackson Herring		2013-04-10 09:48:12 AM

UNC_Samurai: This is also a great argument for why "What if we sold it and just leased it from a private company?" is an utterly terrible idea.

if his post were less wordy it would be another "nixon, you dolt" moment

Mikey1969		2013-04-10 09:50:59 AM

Sorry subby, I see no context here. It's a concert, but for a "private" concert, there sure are a lot of people in the audience. Who put on the concert? How much was shared by the taxpayers? Were tickets sold or given away? If they were given away, who were they given to?\

Oh wait, I see that the Obama's are there, and it means that Barack is enjoying music on the clock, so it's 100% evil.

I'm starting to think that some farker is really just Fox News or Brietbart on a corporate account.

Mikey1969		2013-04-10 09:52:26 AM

James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

THAT.

Was awesome...

The Homer Tax		2013-04-10 10:00:02 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

I'm confused. Are you being intentionally ironic here? The building is owned by a private entity, who contracts the HVAC operation to another private company. Yet, the inefficient management of the Heating and AC is due to *government* waste/inefficiency? That doesn't even pass basic logical muster.

1. Government leases the building because they think it's cheaper -> building owner contracts the HVAC operation because he thinks it's cheaper -> HVAC doesn't do anything because it is cheaper. That's the free market in action.
2. I've experienced this in private companies as well
3. You called you GF incompetent.

dinch		2013-04-10 10:00:03 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

OK, first of all, you don't know how a boiler works? That's retarded. Anyway, it takes a great deal of effort to lay a boiler up for the season, and once you do, it takes a great deal of effort to get it running again. So the thought process behind it is you keep it on until you know you won't need it. The cooling is more than likely not A/C in the sense that most people are used to (i.e. like in your car) but done through a chiller. This is effectively a large swamp cooler. This also takes a good deal of effort to turn on, and since it cools by using outside air, if the temp drops below freezing you run the risk of destroying your coils.

Obama didn't build that.

Mikey1969		2013-04-10 10:06:40 AM

The Homer Tax: SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

I'm confused. Are you being intentionally ironic here? The building is owned by a private entity, who contracts the HVAC operation to another private company. Yet, the inefficient management of the Heating and AC is due to *government* waste/inefficiency? That doesn't even pass basic logical muster.

1. Government leases the building because they think it's cheaper -> building owner contracts the HVAC operation because he thinks it's cheaper -> HVAC doesn't do anything because it is cheaper. That's the free market in action.
2. I've experienced this in private companies as well
3. You called you GF incompetent.

I don't think he'll be back with us for awhile. Probably getting the smackdown from his less-than-competent girlfriend, and can't get to the keyboard...

James!		2013-04-10 10:07:58 AM

Mikey1969: I don't think he'll be back with us for awhile. Probably getting the smackdown from his less-than-competent girlfriend, and can't get to the keyboard...

She's no doubt drooling and slamming her head into his chest while he blames Obama.

Jake Havechek		2013-04-10 10:08:57 AM

To: austinaero"....It's the Sequester Celebration!..."
It's "in your face" kind of time and whatcha gonna do bout it? Heh?
King Hussein is doing what communists do best.
The hypocrisy is so bad, it's deplorable. But the MSM loves their King and Messiah. He could kill and eat babies on the WH lawn and they'd still cover for him. It's just evil!!!
66 posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2013 9:43:47 PM by

MyKingdomForYourHorse		2013-04-10 10:09:21 AM

Its rare in the politics tab that a troll gets such a universal beat down that not even the secondary accounts bother to join in defense.

Rixel		2013-04-10 10:11:11 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

Many older boiler systems were designed to be turned on in the fall and turned off in the spring. They were not designed for anything approaching specific control. Replacing boiler systems is quite expensive. Your girlfriend (by the way, how does a Canadian get a job with the Federal Government?) is either working in a privately owned building which the government is able to rent cheaply because of the antiquated systems, or is working in a government owned building where the money has not been available to modernize the systems.

Either way, the problem you have identified is not due to government waste, but to government austerity.

Fail the competency test? *rimshot*

beerrun		2013-04-10 10:12:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIhFoVy1v70

Oblig....

Mr. Titanium		2013-04-10 10:15:30 AM

dinch:

OK, first of all, you don't know how a boiler works? That's retarded. Anyway, it takes a great deal of effort to lay a boiler up for the season, and once you do, it takes a great deal of effort to get it running again. So the thought process behind it is you keep it on until you know you won't need it. The cooling is more than likely not A/C in the sense that most people are used to (i.e. like in your car) but done through a chiller. This is effectively a large swamp cooler. This also takes a good deal of effort to turn on, and since it cools by using outside air, if the temp drops below freezing you run the risk of destroying your coils.

Obama didn't build that.

Sometime go through the exercise of seeing what it would take to put an intelligent, controllable HVAC into an office building. It is a pittance compared to the cost of the building (maybe $20 - 40 thousand on a building that costs a couple of million, when you build it. Obviously a lot more to retrofit afterwards.). But whether you are talking about government or major corporations, someone pinches pennies on HVAC control so they can have a more dramatic lobby. Never mind the savings on heating and cooling. Capital costs are not Operating costs. Argh!

sigdiamond2000		2013-04-10 10:17:20 AM

In case anyone is wondering why the right is going apesh*t over the White House tours.

It doesn't have anything to do with whether our children is learning. It's about Republican Congressmen having to explain to angry, rich constituents why they ruined Kaitlyn and Bryce's DC trip.

FC Exile		2013-04-10 10:20:49 AM

The president is a JOKE!

/Guess that's why Fark likes him.

dinch		2013-04-10 10:20:55 AM

Mr. Titanium: dinch:

OK, first of all, you don't know how a boiler works? That's retarded. Anyway, it takes a great deal of effort to lay a boiler up for the season, and once you do, it takes a great deal of effort to get it running again. So the thought process behind it is you keep it on until you know you won't need it. The cooling is more than likely not A/C in the sense that most people are used to (i.e. like in your car) but done through a chiller. This is effectively a large swamp cooler. This also takes a good deal of effort to turn on, and since it cools by using outside air, if the temp drops below freezing you run the risk of destroying your coils.

Obama didn't build that.

Sometime go through the exercise of seeing what it would take to put an intelligent, controllable HVAC into an office building. It is a pittance compared to the cost of the building (maybe $20 - 40 thousand on a building that costs a couple of million, when you build it. Obviously a lot more to retrofit afterwards.). But whether you are talking about government or major corporations, someone pinches pennies on HVAC control so they can have a more dramatic lobby. Never mind the savings on heating and cooling. Capital costs are not Operating costs. Argh!

Actually, I have been through the process of researching cost on a retrofit. We even went so far as to get city chill water tapped into the building for cooling (It was free since they were working on it right outside and we are a pseudo-city entity). Problem being there was no place to put the ductwork so it was scrapped. And yeah, running a boiler to heat a building is massively expensive.

FC Exile		2013-04-10 10:23:48 AM

Bet the windows won't open either.

thurstonxhowell		2013-04-10 10:27:05 AM

Mr. Titanium: Sometime go through the exercise of seeing what it would take to put an intelligent, controllable HVAC into an office building. It is a pittance compared to the cost of the building (maybe $20 - 40 thousand on a building that costs a couple of million, when you build it. Obviously a lot more to retrofit afterwards.).

The building is in DC. There's a pretty good chance it's not exactly new construction.

kyrg		2013-04-10 10:38:48 AM

More proof of the "Let them eat cake " mindset of the White House. I heard he had to cut his golf game short to make the dinner.

There is no effort to compromise, no empithy for those struggeling to make ends meet. It's just FU, we won, we'll take as much money and control from you as we can and then we'll ride this gravey train into the ground and let the next generaytion sort through whats left. Yes Sir, change you can be proud of.

Philip Francis Queeg		2013-04-10 10:41:26 AM

kyrg: More proof of the "Let them eat cake " mindset of the White House. I heard he had to cut his golf game short to make the dinner.

There is no effort to compromise, no empithy for those struggeling to make ends meet. It's just FU, we won, we'll take as much money and control from you as we can and then we'll ride this gravey train into the ground and let the next generaytion sort through whats left. Yes Sir, change you can be proud of.

3.5/10

The spelling errors were a nice touch.

SlothB77		2013-04-10 10:42:56 AM

James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

oh boy did i step in it today.

Raharu		2013-04-10 10:45:57 AM

FC Exile: The president is a JOKE!

/Guess that's why Fark likes him.

Non sequitur much?

James!		2013-04-10 10:47:44 AM

SlothB77: James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

oh boy did i step in it today.

You really did. But you made a lot of people happy, so good on you.

wynper		2013-04-10 10:52:38 AM

It was not a private concert and the White House didn't pay for it PBS did. The resulting program will be aired there.

SlothB77		2013-04-10 10:52:58 AM

James!: SlothB77: James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

oh boy did i step in it today.

You really did. But you made a lot of people happy, so good on you.

i tell her she can do so much better than the current job she is in. but then again, she is seeing me, so ... extrapolate from that what you will

FC Exile		2013-04-10 10:55:25 AM

Raharu: FC Exile: The president is a JOKE!

/Guess that's why Fark likes him.

Non sequitur much?

Sorry I thought this thread was about Obama's "concert series".
Oh, wait, it is.
What was your problem again?

ManateeGag		2013-04-10 10:56:30 AM

Nabb1: Don't question your betters, submitter.

then Subby might as well just crawl in a hole and die. everyone knows everyone is better than the submitter.

feickus		2013-04-10 10:57:16 AM

SlothB77: I have a great, personal example of government waste. My g/f works in a government building in DC. The government cannot control the heat/ air conditioning for the building, a property owner or a company they have hired controls that. The building is heated by a boiler or something. Not sure how that works. Anyways, the forecasted high today is 90 degrees in DC and the HEAT IS STILL ON. Not only is the company that controls the climate refusing to turn the A/C on the building, they won't even turn the heat off. And the government and its employees that work in the building have no recourse. So people have to work in this miserable working environment. So the agency housed in the building is giving its employees early dismissal.

It is 2013, people. How does this still happen? This is why competent people don't work for the government. They don't want to put up with these shenanigans. And this what you get when the government is run by incompetent people - the heat on in the building on a 90-degreee day.

And I bet the government has to pay the heat bill too.

My guess is the bulding themostat controllers have the same rule as we did when I lived on base. Every spring in South Carolina it would get miserably hot but the heat would still be on, The managers of the buidlings claimed it had to be at least X temperature for Y many of days in order for them to turn on the AC. Same occured in the fall with the heat.

ManateeGag		2013-04-10 11:02:14 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: James!: Also you just called your girlfriend incompetent.

Well that obvious, look who she's dating

I have severe doubts such a person even exists.

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