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(My Fox DC)   NASA says it is not returning to the Moon any time soon, says it would rather send missions to Mars, asteroids, or whatever object their rockets happens to run into   (myfoxdc.com) divider line 107
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2013-04-10 09:01:28 AM
This is why you have no funding NASA.
 
2013-04-10 09:38:13 AM

doglover: This is why you have no funding NASA.


Other things they won't be doing:
     -manned exploration of the solar system
     -sending killer AI to Jupiter
     -developing FTL travel
     -sex in space

Basically, they will put satellites in near earth orbit so our phones will work, and they will help colleges put remote controlled cars on Mars, and will send their astronauts to Russia.
 
2013-04-10 09:44:28 AM
Who cares? What else is there to do on the moon?

4.bp.blogspot.com

There's that.
 
2013-04-10 10:20:47 AM
And I just finally picked the tiles for my Mars condo. Damn it!
 
2013-04-10 10:29:56 AM
NASA may be doing the smart thing -- look for something they can point at and say, "Hey, we can make money doing this!"

That would get more attention, and funding.  Not saying there's no money to be made on the moon, but they've not found it yet.
 
2013-04-10 10:35:02 AM
Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.
 
2013-04-10 10:40:25 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.


But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.
 
2013-04-10 10:43:22 AM
NASA's administrator needs to step down. I'm sick of weak-willed lackeys running that agency. He shouldn't be justifying budget cuts; he should be diving over a desk of a congressman trying to choke him for letting the agency get in the impotent state it's in.
 
2013-04-10 11:01:08 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.


Put the stick down and stop beating the strawman. No one on Fark has ever seriously said moon rock is valuable.

Same way no one realistically believes that we'll have FTL, moon/Mars colonies, or asteroid mining in our lifetimes. Find a new schtick.
 
2013-04-10 11:11:07 AM
One reason: Moon rock spiders

img2.timeinc.net
 
2013-04-10 11:14:50 AM

doglover: This is why you have no funding NASA.


They're doing this precisely because they have no funding.
 
2013-04-10 11:15:30 AM
I think this is ok if the elom musk/richard branson and some other ungodly rich person in the near future decides real housewives of the moon would be a good show runner and we get private space flight to the moon, I'm ok with this.

Since, I wouldn't be able to afford going to the moon on a private space flight and I couldn't qualify for a NASA space flight to the moon, I'm resigned to the fact I won't be going to the moon.

But I'd like it if someone else could.

/I must be a commie.
 
2013-04-10 11:25:08 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.


You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again
 
2013-04-10 11:26:30 AM
Funding is easy to find. You just convince people it's an investment. You don't say: "I want to go to the moon." You say: "Mining the moon will make us staggeringly rich." Sell the benefits of going to the moon, and investors will help you get there.

Columbus didn't discover America (yeah yeah) for the thrill of discovery. He discovered it because he was financed by Spain, having sold them on getting even richer. It turns out that you can get large, large amounts of capital by selling people sufficiently more capital in the future. How about that?
 
2013-04-10 11:35:18 AM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Put the stick down and stop beating the strawman. No one on Fark has ever seriously said moon rock is valuable.


Are we on the same FARK?

ShadowKamui: You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining


See? I never disputed that He-3 wasn't valuable, I just said that getting it from the Moon means you either believe in fantasy levels of non-existent technology, or you are functionally too stupid to understand that a dead airless rock with no infrastructure is a fundamental barrier that cannot be overcome.

ShadowKamui: But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again


Yes, the reality that we can get He-3 right here on Earth. What does that have to do with anti-space? Who's anti-space anyways? Who's moving the goalposts? Looks like you are the one desperately putting words in my mouth and scrambling to defend space by invoking the Earth, so sorry, this mud ball.

Please go to a bank and explain to them your cunning plan to spend trillions on fantasies to go get something that's worth 1500$/g right here on Earth.

At least you didn't bring up our non-existent fusion power reactors.
 
2013-04-10 11:35:50 AM
I'm actually pretty excited to see decent pictures of Pluto in 2015
 
2013-04-10 11:47:06 AM

SN1987a goes boom: doglover: This is why you have no funding NASA.

They're doing this precisely because they have no funding.


If they said "We're going to the moon and there's an extra seat for the highest doner." they'd find funding.

Instead, they do things the boring way and lose money every year. They need some spark, some pizzaz, some sexy projects to woo politicians and rich guys to open the purse strings. Plan a sexy mission, get a sexy budget.
 
2013-04-10 11:48:23 AM
Goddamn, it's like clockwork..
 
2013-04-10 11:49:36 AM

doglover: If they said "We're going to the moon and there's an extra seat for the highest doner." they'd find funding.


24.media.tumblr.com

Lunch time!
 
2013-04-10 11:51:18 AM

ShadowKamui: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.

You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again


Ok, I take back my previous statement upthread. Still, I would think the current cost of heading to the moon to obtain He-3 would drive the price through the roof even more.
 
2013-04-10 11:59:16 AM

Dingleberry Dickwad: Ok, I take back my previous statement upthread. Still, I would think the current cost of heading to the moon to obtain He-3 would drive the price through the roof even more.


It's the same elements as here. There is no compelling reason to mine the Moon. Let's say some nutbar plops down trillions to start a magical He-3 factory on the Moon. Suddenly this will create a value for finding a better way to get it on Earth, or to simply find another technology to obviate the need for He-3 in the first place.

It's funny that Space Nutters never realize the high technology they often invoke also means that sometimes it will replace the need for space in the first place.

You are still correct. The Moon could be covered in gold nuggets the size of a bowling ball, it still won't be worth getting them. Never mind the fact that there aren't any nuggets of anything on the Moon, it's all scattered in ppm and ppb concentrations and there is no infrastructure there. At all.

Mentalpatient87: Goddamn, it's like clockwork..


I'm still waiting for my postcard from Mars. It's like you don't even care. What's your timetable for Mankind's glorious future in space? Wanna commit to some figures?
 
2013-04-10 12:02:45 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: ShadowKamui: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.

You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again

Ok, I take back my previous statement upthread. Still, I would think the current cost of heading to the moon to obtain He-3 would drive the price through the roof even more.


Yeah, it's like a million per kilogram to get an object into orbit, or some obscene number. But what you do is beg for money to spend on robots that play with rocks and you wind up without a budget because even Senators can only wait so many years for you to find Martian life.

What you have to do is fire a geologist or two and hire some moneymakers. Get some people on the team who know how to make bank. Turn NASA into a PR dreamboat organization and get the funding to go to Europa, take people to the moon, and set up a webcam or ten on Mars so people can look for alieums online.
 
2013-04-10 12:07:24 PM

doglover: What you have to do is fire a geologist or two and hire some moneymakers. Get some people on the team who know how to make bank. Turn NASA into a PR dreamboat organization and get the funding to go to Europa, take people to the moon, and set up a webcam or ten on Mars so people can look for alieums online.


Oh, like Bre-X, but in space? We Canadians have expertise in the area of geological fraud. I'm sure we can branch out into selenological fraud.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bre-X

How about Astra Arachis as a company name?
 
2013-04-10 12:09:15 PM

Dingleberry Dickwad: ShadowKamui: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.

You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again

Ok, I take back my previous statement upthread. Still, I would think the current cost of heading to the moon to obtain He-3 would drive the price through the roof even more.


You get He-3 from decommissioning nuclear warheads, so we still got plenty of those for now.  The main issue w/ lunar He-3 is you need some sorta of processing center on the moon to separate it from all the normal rocks (its 15-50 bbp) before you send it back, ie Moon.  Its the upfront cost of the processing center that's the issue, if you could just pick the stuff up even at only 3 ton payload; you would still get 10billion per trip.
 
2013-04-10 12:15:09 PM

ShadowKamui: if you could just pick the stuff up even at only 3 ton payload; you would still get 10billion per trip.


Yeah yeah yeah and if I had wings I'd be a flying unicorn. Get over it, your "facts" are based on various assumptions that make no sense, and never will. Why is this hard to understand?

I'd be rich too if I made a lot of money. Woops, I don't. If only money were lying around in neat bundles ready to be picked up, I'd make a fortune! Oops, there is no Santa Claus. Not at the North Pole, and not in space.

If only physical reality were as malleable as digital imagery, eh?
 
2013-04-10 12:15:53 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Dingleberry Dickwad: Put the stick down and stop beating the strawman. No one on Fark has ever seriously said moon rock is valuable.

Are we on the same FARK?

ShadowKamui: You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

See? I never disputed that He-3 wasn't valuable, I just said that getting it from the Moon means you either believe in fantasy levels of non-existent technology, or you are functionally too stupid to understand that a dead airless rock with no infrastructure is a fundamental barrier that cannot be overcome.

ShadowKamui: But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again

Yes, the reality that we can get He-3 right here on Earth. What does that have to do with anti-space? Who's anti-space anyways? Who's moving the goalposts? Looks like you are the one desperately putting words in my mouth and scrambling to defend space by invoking the Earth, so sorry, this mud ball.

Please go to a bank and explain to them your cunning plan to spend trillions on fantasies to go get something that's worth 1500$/g right here on Earth.

At least you didn't bring up our non-existent fusion power reactors.


I'm not the one who tries to deny the existence energy weapons, when the navy is deploying them in 2014
I'm not the one who tries to deny  the existence of rail guns when they're currently testing them now, eta of 2020 for deployment
I'm not the one who tries to deny kinetic energy weapons, even though Rods from God are a serious area of weapons research

All you do is poo-poo on any sort of high-tech advancement then try to back peddle when people call you out on your BS.  Go back to the trees.
 
2013-04-10 12:16:13 PM

doglover: SN1987a goes boom: doglover: This is why you have no funding NASA.

They're doing this precisely because they have no funding.

If they said "We're going to the moon and there's an extra seat for the highest doner." they'd find funding.

Instead, they do things the boring way and lose money every year. They need some spark, some pizzaz, some sexy projects to woo politicians and rich guys to open the purse strings. Plan a sexy mission, get a sexy budget.


They need money to do the things you say they need to do to get money.

That is cyclical logic if I ever did see it.
 
2013-04-10 12:22:54 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: ShadowKamui: if you could just pick the stuff up even at only 3 ton payload; you would still get 10billion per trip.

Yeah yeah yeah and if I had wings I'd be a flying unicorn. Get over it, your "facts" are based on various assumptions that make no sense, and never will. Why is this hard to understand?

I'd be rich too if I made a lot of money. Woops, I don't. If only money were lying around in neat bundles ready to be picked up, I'd make a fortune! Oops, there is no Santa Claus. Not at the North Pole, and not in space.

If only physical reality were as malleable as digital imagery, eh?


... You do realize that he was acknowledging that there were obstacles, and his last statement was only a hypothetical?
 
2013-04-10 12:23:59 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: I'm still waiting for my postcard from Mars.


It's post-dated for your 300th birthday.
 
2013-04-10 12:27:50 PM
NASA has too many Wozniaks and not enough Jobses.
 
2013-04-10 12:32:13 PM

ShadowKamui: All you do is poo-poo on any sort of high-tech advancement then try to back peddle when people call you out on your BS. Go back to the trees.


It's back pedal,. genius, and I did no such thing. You are the one invoking things that don't even exist. There is no high tech for me to poo-poo. I poo-poo the IDEAS, since that's all you have.

You have nothing. I have back pedaled from nothing.

You are the one bringing up He-3, which as you said we get just fine from right here, and then spinning it as some kind of reason to mine the Moon.

There is no infrastructure on the Moon. I said that, and so did you.

Therefore, there isn't anything of value on the Moon. It doesn't matter if it's there in ppb levels if there is no technology and no infrastructure to do it with.

ShadowKamui: I'm not the one who tries to deny the existence energy weapons, when the navy is deploying them in 2014


Energy weapons that we all agree do nothing more than blind the enemy, something that's been happening for decades, something I well know. Or if we really want, we can strip the paint off incoming barrage rockets at incredible cost.

ShadowKamui: I'm not the one who tries to deny kinetic energy weapons, even though Rods from God are a serious area of weapons research


Put down the comic books. You seem to have latched onto 1980s Star Wars SDI propaganda posters... It might very well be a serious area of research... And?

ShadowKamui: I'm not the one who tries to deny the existence of rail guns when they're currently testing them now, eta of 2020 for deployment


I never denied their existence, I've been reading about them since tech news was still in print form. Scientific American anyone?

I deny that they are anything more than a pork project and are so ridiculously complex and over the top that they mean nothing in real situations.

More of a psy-op thing than anything practical.

F=BLI. It's a linear relationship. You simply don't get magical returns on your invested energy.

Meanwhile, your despicable enemy simply trains more kids to fire cheap bullets.

You're a child. How old are you anyways? I'll bet 2020 comes and goes and none of your magical weapons will be in any more use than now.

Their main purpose is to feed the defense contractors. That they will continue to do.

The foreseeable future is right here. It's chemical energy sources, it's material bullets, it's airplanes and drones and dirty combat between our lower classes and their illiterate children.

And it's flashy sci-fi spectacles for the knaves back home with the critical faculties of an avocado.

I used to be like you, ten to twenty years ago. Devouring the sci-fi fantasies and the defense propaganda, spending tons of money on war porn books and buying every Scientific American issue with either space or war porn in it.

Let's hope you grow up into a healthy rational adult. You won't have a choice when you realize I'm right.
 
2013-04-10 12:47:10 PM
While Shadow's butt is still red from the ass kicking, let's ask him why we don't get gold from seawater?

http://www.marineinsight.com/marine/gold-from-sea-water-truth-or-myt h/

HMMMMM????????????????

Mentalpatient87: Quantum Apostrophe: I'm still waiting for my postcard from Mars.

It's post-dated for your 300th birthday.


I'll look for it. Will it have a picture of the kids in little Mars suits building sand castles?

Or are you fine with the fact that lobsters may outlive you to see that?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster

Or are you implying you already sent the card? I thought you could only post-date checks. I guess the orderly is indulging you. When's pudding day at Menninger's, again?

elchupacabra: ... You do realize that he was acknowledging that there were obstacles, and his last statement was only a hypothetical?


Obstacles and hypotheticals is all the Space Nutters have. That's my main point, every time. I hope he is at least as honest as you and realizes I don't deny there is He-3 on the Moon, just that it would require fantasy levels of technology we just don't have to mine it. And if we did have that technology... why couldn't we just use it here? And why doesn't technology magically get better so we don't need He-3 in the first place?

It's funny how selective technology is for Space Nutters. It gets magically better just to support their fantasies... but it will never suddenly develop into something were we wouldn't need space.

You realize that the first sketches of communication satellites had PEOPLE in them because they couldn't foresee cheap computers and reliable electronics?

Astra Arachis!
 
2013-04-10 12:47:53 PM

ShadowKamui: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.

You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again


images.nymag.com

He3 mining on the moon, you say...
 
2013-04-10 12:51:59 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: When's pudding day at Menninger's, again?


Haha, you're so easy to get frothing. Keep it up, your constant vitriol and misplaced confidence in your superiority is exactly why I clicked on this thread. It's amusing. You're a funny joke.
 
2013-04-10 12:55:45 PM

Stile4aly: ShadowKamui: Quantum Apostrophe: DoBeDoBeDo: Does it really cost that much to reopen the sound stage?


Seriously though, we've proven we can do it, over and over again.  We have a low gravity scientific lab in the ISS, there is nothing of value in moon rock (at least not enough to offset the cost of hauling it back here).  It would just be a waste of money to do it again.

But I've been assured by Fark scientists and engineers that Moon rock is very valuable.

You do realize the going rate for He-3 is $1500 per gram, and yes its used today for medical imagining

But hey why let reality yet again ruin your anti-space stance, gotta move the goal posts again

[images.nymag.com image 560x375]

He3 mining on the moon, you say...


Get back to work or I'll call up the replacement clone early
 
2013-04-10 01:02:19 PM
Man, threads like this are awesome with the "show ignored comment headers" option.  It's like QA is in the Cone of Silence -- I can see he's red-faced and fuming, pounding the desk and screaming his head off about something, but I don't hear a word of it.

For my part, I've given up on NASA doing anything really inspiring.  They'll keep tossing probes and rovers to other planets and collecting interesting data, but they're long since finished with the whole boots-on-the-ground thing.  And I'm not too pissed about that because the private sector is finally stepping up.  SpaceX is serious about Mars, for no apparent reason beyond "I've got the money and I think it's cool."  Planetary Resources is probably going to fail, but only because the first ones into a new market are inherently the most optimistic and least cautious; the economics will only get more favorable and somebody will eventually pull it off.
 
2013-04-10 01:04:30 PM

PsyLord: One reason: Moon rock spiders

[img2.timeinc.net image 243x182]


I thought the spiders were from Mars.
 
2013-04-10 01:07:43 PM

Mentalpatient87: Quantum Apostrophe: When's pudding day at Menninger's, again?

Haha, you're so easy to get frothing. Keep it up, your constant vitriol and misplaced confidence in your superiority is exactly why I clicked on this thread. It's amusing. You're a funny joke.


 And your misplaced confidence in things that won't happen is??? Haha! See you in space!

Astra Arachis!

ShadowKamui: Get back to work or I'll call up the replacement clone early


Never mind everything else, just tell me why no one is recovering gold from seawater.

Gold is valuable, it's right here where you can get ANYTHING you need to support your project by Fedex.

I will accept no other responses than to that question.
 
2013-04-10 01:22:57 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: And your misplaced confidence in things that won't happen is???


We're you just bawling about someone putting words in your mouth?
 
2013-04-10 01:23:01 PM
...until we can blow up the nazi moon base, it's off limits.
 
2013-04-10 01:29:08 PM

doglover: SN1987a goes boom: doglover: This is why you have no funding NASA.

They're doing this precisely because they have no funding.

If they said "We're going to the moon and there's an extra seat for the highest doner." they'd find funding.

Instead, they do things the boring way and lose money every year. They need some spark, some pizzaz, some sexy projects to woo politicians and rich guys to open the purse strings. Plan a sexy mission, get a sexy budget.


nuke the moon1
 
2013-04-10 01:32:16 PM
I wish we'ed just send up a couple of  solar powered lunar rovers, let universities take turns operating them for years to come, exploring the moon, generating lots of cool pics and data....if they find something *really* interesting, then we send a manned mission.
 
2013-04-10 01:32:55 PM

doglover: Instead, they do things the boring way and lose money every year. They need some spark, some pizzaz, some sexy projects to woo politicians and rich guys to open the purse strings. Plan a sexy mission, get a sexy budget.


That should totally be Terry Pratchett's next book in the Moist von Lipwig series.
 
2013-04-10 01:41:30 PM
Honestly of all the things to get worked up about, who would have thought space was a hot button issue?
 
2013-04-10 01:51:52 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: Mentalpatient87: Quantum Apostrophe: When's pudding day at Menninger's, again?

Haha, you're so easy to get frothing. Keep it up, your constant vitriol and misplaced confidence in your superiority is exactly why I clicked on this thread. It's amusing. You're a funny joke.

 And your misplaced confidence in things that won't happen is??? Haha! See you in space!

Astra Arachis!

ShadowKamui: Get back to work or I'll call up the replacement clone early

Never mind everything else, just tell me why no one is recovering gold from seawater.

Gold is valuable, it's right here where you can get ANYTHING you need to support your project by Fedex.

I will accept no other responses than to that question.


You mean undersea mining like the Japanse are going to start doing?  Of course that's for things other than gold, cause well gold isn't anywhere near the top end of price per ounce
 
2013-04-10 01:59:37 PM
NASA is still doing a lot of the behind the scenes thinking and planning that is needed for a Moon or Mars mission, bit manned and unmanned.

There is some interesting work around exploring lunar caves as possible ready-made habitats, using spelunking rovers.  And using rovers plus a solar heat-powered 3-d printing system, you couod remotely build habitable shelters out of lunar rock on any time schedule you need; they'd be ready when it was practical and affordable for men to make the trip over.

The asteroid-related stuff is applicable to moon-mars goals, as well as straight-up useful in terms of developing asteroid defenses for Earth.

 They are under incredibly tight restraints so the time factor is where you have to stretch things out, but if we get a Dem majority House out of the mid-term elections, there would still be two years of a Dem Majority to push more funding to NASA and accelerate progress.

Also, I have to agree with the various commenters that point out private industry is starting to move into the gap, leaving NASA to do more pathfinding research and leave the application of that knowledge to private investors.
 
2013-04-10 02:00:30 PM
Any one else see those articles recently about the FDR drive NASA is working on? Could cut mars down 30-90 days.
 
2013-04-10 02:13:56 PM

squegeebooo: Any one else see those articles recently about the FDR drive NASA is working on? Could cut mars down 30-90 days.


25.media.tumblr.com
The what now?

(If I interpret that abbreviation correctly, any technology plan that begins with "Assume that getting useful yield from small-scale fusion is a solved problem" is a rather tough sell at this point.)
 
2013-04-10 02:15:36 PM
Yes, surely there's no money in ALUMINUM, SILICON, AND MAGNESIUM OUTSIDE OF EARTH'S ENORMOUS GRAVITY WELL.
 
2013-04-10 02:16:58 PM

squegeebooo: Any one else see those articles recently about the FDR drive NASA is working on? Could cut mars down 30-90 days.


How is polio supposed to make it easier to get to Mars?
 
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