JerseyTim: But what do the Amish think?
Sybarite: "I may be a Republican. I'm not an idiot."
vernonFL: Betelgeuse is about 1000 times larger than our sun, so I would say that it is more of a candidate for "solar capital of the Universe" than Lancaster, Ca.
The Irresponsible Captain: Well, it wouldn't take much.[solarenergyfactsblog.com image 654x492]
RoxtarRyan: As long as the backbone of the grid they intend on creating, even the local (i.e. house/neighborhood) grids are expandable and easily upgradable, then rock on. It would be a shame to build something and not be able to upgrade it as solar tech will likely get more efficient cells in the future.
imgod2u: JerseyTim: But what do the Amish think?Honestly, if solar energy could be harnessed within a small community, the Amish would be all for it. They aren't so much anti-tech as much as anti-not-local. Think of them as neo-hippies.
DubtodaIll: The problem with solar isn't harnessing the energy, it's storing the energy for later use.
cirby: The Irresponsible Captain:Well, it wouldn't take much....just an area equivalent to about 1/6 of the area of all of the urban/suburban areas of the planet.In other words, look at any city over about 50,000 people, and imagine covering 1/6 of that area with solar panels. And yes, that includes ALL of the area, roads, parking lots, buildings, trees, parks, lakes, et cetera.That's not even considering the cost. At $100/square meter (insanely cheap for an installed system with storage), you're looking at $100 million per square kilometer, times 400,000 kilometers = $40 trillion dollars. This is a fantastically low estimate...No, thanks.
peterthx: Last stop to Bakersfield?It's not on the road (CA 14) to Bakersfield. To get there you'd have to either take CA 138 to I-5 or further north to CA 58.
Elroydb: DubtodaIll: The problem with solar isn't harnessing the energy, it's storing the energy for later use.And the distribution of it. Moving solar part electricity from the west to say New York or Boston isn't exactly the easiest thing in the world
BradleyP: peterthx: Last stop to Bakersfield?It's not on the road (CA 14) to Bakersfield. To get there you'd have to either take CA 138 to I-5 or further north to CA 58.Good job Lancaster. It takes a LOT of power to keep those meth labs cranking.
devildog123: imgod2u: JerseyTim: But what do the Amish think?Honestly, if solar energy could be harnessed within a small community, the Amish would be all for it. They aren't so much anti-tech as much as anti-not-local. Think of them as neo-hippies.Think of them as neo-hypocrites you mean. You're right that the Amish have no problem with technology, they have a problem with having their name on it. So when Zechariah whips out the cell phone that's in his "English" neighbor's name in order to ask for a ride in the van that his family paid someone to buy for them, to go borrow the power tools that his son (who has left the church and can own cool shait) owns, he won't go to hell, because HE doesn't own any of that stuff. They remind me of a bunch of lawyers, looking for every loophole they can find. My in-laws are surrounded by old order Mennonites and Amish where they live, and the only reason they have internet is because the Amish carpenter living next door pays them for it, so he can use their wi-fi for his business./wife's family is from Lancaster County, PA//niece married a guy who left the church.
dryknife: DubtodaIll: The problem with solar isn't harnessing the energy, it's storing the energy for later use.But the upside is that solar generates during peak load time.
stevarooni: FTFA: In Republican-controlled Florida, state law prohibits third parties from installing the rooftop solar panels and then selling power to the homeowner, relieving the homeowner of large upfront costs.This isn't so much a NIMBY thing, or Reactionary Republicans as it is cutting off scammers before they can start! Seriously, who wants to pay to have solar panels installed and then buy the power produced?!?
StrangeQ: Yep. As part of a senior research project back in 2009 I calculated that covering just the roofs of every stand-alone house in the US with currently available solar cells would power the entire US residential and commercial sectors. The problem was the cost of building all of those panels.
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