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(EITB)   Malaga owner Abdullah Bin Nasser Al-Thani says on Twitter that his team's elimination from the Champions League quarterfinals by Borussia Dortmund was because of "racism"   (eitb.com) divider line 14
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2013-04-10 09:46:10 AM  
At lest that's more creative than ignorantly blaming the officiating.
 
2013-04-10 09:47:18 AM  
fysheroes.files.wordpress.com

When the Dortmund is dead, Malaga will eat his heart.
 
2013-04-10 11:18:29 AM  
Koman Coulibaly
At lest that's more creative than ignorantly blaming the officiating.


Nothing to blame since the offside goals were handed out evenly.

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Although the Dortmund one is kinda interesting because the second of the possible offsides leading to their 3rd goal might actually depend on which body parts of the goalie count for offsides, i.e. if his hands matter.
IIRC for normal players the arms don't matter for an offside decision because players aren't allowed to play the ball with them.
But the Malaga goalie in this situation would have been allowed to use his hands and because he was desperately trying to jump and reach back, at the moment of the pass his hands were closer to the goalline than the Dortmund player who scored, which could(!) mean that the scorer wasn't offside...
 
2013-04-10 11:58:40 AM  
Even if Malaga went all the way and won the whole thing, they would be banned from Europe next year for being colossal deadbeats. And that's on YOU mister "I think I'm as cool as Man City's owners while not actually having the money I think I do." Within my lifetime, I'll see Europe do one of the following:
-Institute some form of real salary cap
-Do away w/ Pro/Reg
-Fold smaller leagues into bigger ones (on a team by team basis). Celtic to EPL, Porto to La Liga, Ajax to Bundesliga, etc.
 
2013-04-10 12:34:39 PM  

dittybopper: [fysheroes.files.wordpress.com image 284x343]

When the Dortmund is dead, Malaga will eat his heart.


I haven't seen that meme in years, thanks for the memories.

Is every football team owned by Arabs now? It's the re-reconquista!
 
2013-04-10 01:31:22 PM  

Trocadero: Even if Malaga went all the way and won the whole thing, they would be banned from Europe next year for being colossal deadbeats. And that's on YOU mister "I think I'm as cool as Man City's owners while not actually having the money I think I do."


Pretty much.

Within my lifetime, I'll see Europe do one of the following:
-Institute some form of real salary cap


The EU will have something to say about that.  Better idea:  let the clubs die off.  It's the only way everyone will rein their spending in.

-Do away w/ Pro/Reg

Uh, not too sure about this one either.

-Fold smaller leagues into bigger ones (on a team by team basis). Celtic to EPL, Porto to La Liga, Ajax to Bundesliga, etc.

Again, won't happen.  Celtic/Rangers into the EPL has been floated for years on end.  Firstly, the ninety-something clubs in the English FA will have something to say about that.  Secondly, they'd most likely go into the Championship or even League 1 given the quality of the opposition and the number of games involved is greater than that of the SPL.  Third, it'll have to be UEFA approved and Platini's not into that, I think.
 
2013-04-10 02:19:32 PM  

The Voice of Doom: Koman Coulibaly
At lest that's more creative than ignorantly blaming the officiating.

Nothing to blame since the offside goals were handed out evenly.

--------------

Although the Dortmund one is kinda interesting because the second of the possible offsides leading to their 3rd goal might actually depend on which body parts of the goalie count for offsides, i.e. if his hands matter.
IIRC for normal players the arms don't matter for an offside decision because players aren't allowed to play the ball with them.
But the Malaga goalie in this situation would have been allowed to use his hands and because he was desperately trying to jump and reach back, at the moment of the pass his hands were closer to the goalline than the Dortmund player who scored, which could(!) mean that the scorer wasn't offside...


I watched the game on delay last night.  I agree the offsides non-calls were close on both sides, but the overall officiating in the game was fantastic.  In the end it was one of the most exciting games I've seen in a while.  Too bad Malaga's suits have taken so much away from their players who showed they deserved to be there.  What's worse, those hollow cries of racism undermine the very real racism issue in FIFA.
 
2013-04-10 02:52:49 PM  
Rwa2play:

Within my lifetime, I'll see Europe do one of the following:
-Institute some form of real salary cap

The EU will have something to say about that.  Better idea:  let the clubs die off.  It's the only way everyone will rein their spending in.


Except Leeds, Portsmouth et al haven't stopped Man City, Chelsea, etc. Call it confidence or delusion, the top end teams think it will NEVER happen to them. They have the power and the motivation to keep things as-is. They're doing fine.

-Do away w/ Pro/Reg

Uh, not too sure about this one either.


To your other point, one of the easiest ways for a team to go bankrupt/fold is to drop a league. And newly promoted teams don't have the years of financial stability/largess to compete. Eventually, there won't be any lower leagues to drop down into, everyone will be amateur or out of business.

-Fold smaller leagues into bigger ones (on a team by team basis). Celtic to EPL, Porto to La Liga, Ajax to Bundesliga, etc.

Again, won't happen.  Celtic/Rangers into the EPL has been floated for years on end.  Firstly, the ninety-something clubs in the English FA will have something to say about that.  Secondly, they'd most likely go into the Championship or even League 1 given the quality of the opposition and the number of games involved is greater than that of the SPL.  Third, it'll have to be UEFA approved and Platini's not into that, I think.


And that's assuming the huge clubs, Man U, Madrid, etc, don't pull a pure BCS style break away. If those teams don't just go "fark UEFA, we're going to set up our own league, generate billions of euros in TV money, and start our own continental championship." The big clubs have chafed/complained about FIFA/UEFA for years, anyway.
 
2013-04-10 04:23:44 PM  

Trocadero: And that's assuming the huge clubs, Man U, Madrid, etc, don't pull a pure BCS style break away. If those teams don't just go "fark UEFA, we're going to set up our own league, generate billions of euros in TV money, and start our own continental championship." The big clubs have chafed/complained about FIFA/UEFA for years, anyway.


Heh, the big clubs chafe/complain because better managers can outdo bigger budgets.
 
2013-04-10 04:26:28 PM  

Lego_Addict: dittybopper: [fysheroes.files.wordpress.com image 284x343]

When the Dortmund is dead, Malaga will eat his heart.

I haven't seen that meme in years, thanks for the memories.

Is every football team owned by Arabs now? It's the re-reconquista!


Hey, I *STARTED* that meme.  In fact, check my profile:  I *AM* that meme.
 
2013-04-10 04:27:54 PM  
Also, Barca is doomed whenever Messi's Power Ring Battery finally dies out.
 
2013-04-10 04:38:42 PM  

Trocadero: :

Within my lifetime, I'll see Europe do one of the following:
-Institute some form of real salary cap

Except Leeds, Portsmouth et al haven't stopped Man City, Chelsea, etc. Call it confidence or delusion, the top end teams think it will NEVER happen to them. They have the power and the motivation to keep things as-is. They're doing fine.


I wouldn't mind a salary cap based on earnings so clubs con't spend more than they take in but a flat cap for every team in the league punishes success. Otherwise you could be in the situation where teams like ManU or Arsenal who have a massive fan base and can fill a 60k seater stadium every week would end up sitting on a giant pile of cash that is doing nothing for the team.

-Do away w/ Pro/Reg

To your other point, one of the easiest ways for a team to go bankrupt/fold is to drop a league. And newly promoted teams don't have the years of financial stability/largess to compete. Eventually, there won't be any lower leagues to drop down into, everyone will be amateur or out of business.


If you do away with promotion and relagation you will end up with a situation like in American sports where a team like the Lions stink up the place with no incentive to get better while other teams who might be able to do better don't even get a chance. If we didn't have promotion we wouldn't have Wigan or Swansea in the PL but we would still have Forest.

-Fold smaller leagues into bigger ones (on a team by team basis). Celtic to EPL, Porto to La Liga, Ajax to Bundesliga, etc.


And that's assuming the huge clubs, Man U, Madrid, etc, don't pull a pure BCS style break away. If those teams don't just go "fark UEFA, we're going to set up our own league, generate billions of euros in TV money, and start our own continental championship." The big clubs have chafed/complained about FIFA/UEFA for years, anyway.


That is a reasonable idea as it would help the really top heavy leagues but would be a step too close to a European Super League and no one wants that as they might be left out of it.
 
2013-04-10 05:09:58 PM  
Abdullah the Butcher?
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2013-04-10 06:03:44 PM  

dittybopper: Lego_Addict: dittybopper: [fysheroes.files.wordpress.com image 284x343]

When the Dortmund is dead, Malaga will eat his heart.

I haven't seen that meme in years, thanks for the memories.

Is every football team owned by Arabs now? It's the re-reconquista!

Hey, I *STARTED* that meme.  In fact, check my profile:  I *AM* that meme.


You aren't kidding! Very cool. Spare my seed.
 
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