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  2013-04-10 10:14:03 AM
luxup: precious_crotchflake: the only thing sadder than a bad troll is a bad troll that tries SO hard.

All I did was point out the obvious which doesn't really require any effort.  Riddle me this Batman:  If I am the troll, why is it that you don't have any thoughts of your own and only seem to reply to what other people post?


did you abandon your kids to post this?  You are a crappy dad.  Hope they don't end up like this girl did all on account of you.
 
  2013-04-10 10:14:27 AM
TeddyRooseveltsMustache: That's a shame. She was a cute kid. It's always the pretty ones...

Welp, ready the gallows and round up a posse.

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/Eye for an eye


Actually lex talionis would demand they be raped themselves. Welcome to the wacky world of true justice. You don't really want it defining the legal system and it's rarely satisfying.
 
  2013-04-10 10:15:42 AM
Sorry but the RCMP isn't perfect but they generally reserve the space under the rug for hiding their own internal misconducts, and for not defending rapists. If they say there isn't sufficient evidence for a conviction then there probably isn't and a trial wouldn't accomplish anything other than waste taxpayer money.

This is a sad story but there is literally nothing else that the legal system can do. That doesn't mean the legal system is broken, the system is designed to err on the side of caution when it comes to convictions. This is a universally held concept within the western world and it exists for many very good reasons. I don't like rape any more than anybody else but as terrible as it sounds I'd rather have these rapists and a hundred more walk away from their crimes than one innocent person be convicted of rape.

/I'm probably going to be farkied as a rapist now
//oh well.
 
  2013-04-10 10:19:51 AM
Well it's obvious she wasn't a christian Farkers are being way too nice to her
 
  2013-04-10 10:20:27 AM
OscarTamerz: Here's a news story of a virtually identical crime from 2006 except the police ended up arresting the victim.

Yep, there is probably a pretty good reason the police didn't prosecute the boys. Maybe a month went by between the event and the pictures being passed around and only after the parents became aware of it did any mention of rape occur? Maybe the pictures show consensual sex? Maybe the girl is the town bike and she made up the whole story about a rape to get back at some of the jerks she shouldn't have had sex with? Maybe that is why the other girls at school were calling her a slut - because the pictures showed an all to willing participant? And the ink (at 16, is that legal?), whorish outfits, and blatant drug use make her look just like the village whore that we all cared so much about when we were young.

Oh, and apparently the PARENTS were the ones that insisted that she was the victim. Well, now she really is one. Being a teenager still suck.

Also -
retroslashers.net
 
  2013-04-10 10:20:32 AM
orbister: Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?

It is a phrase which on fark is generally used by those whose objection to rape is not that other people have been raped but that they themselves might be. It's a way of grabbing attention from the real victims - those who have actually had the horrible experience of rape - and claiming victim status as someone who might be at risk from rape.

There are only a few posters who trot it out and since they never seem to appear in the same thread I have my suspicions that there are rather fewer real people than logins involved.


Declaration that you're a part of rape culture in 3... 2...

/poisoning the well: back in style, because the Holocaust can't make logical reasoning popular forevet
 
  2013-04-10 10:20:54 AM
doglover: This is supported by totally healthy people don't usually an hero even when traumatized,

Interdasting
 
  2013-04-10 10:21:00 AM
precious_crotchflake:
never mind orbister, Maul.  He's  a bitter dude who CAN'T STAND that women get attention on an issue where men generally don't. You know, the kind that almost pees his pants while he cuts-and-pastes from his saved files of all the MRA male rape stats whenever we're talking about a girl or woman who was raped.

I'm sorry you feel like that. I believe that rape is a dreadful crime made worse both by institutional reluctance to take it seriously (about which something can be done) and by the legal difficulties of establishing issues of consent after an event (about which very little can be done). I have little time for the MRA people, who I believe are in general are unpleasant chauvinists, and I think the only time I have posted anything on male rape was on the differences between the UK legal systems regarding it; Scots law now recognises that men can be raped while English law does not. I have no saved files on male rape statistics and I don't think I have ever posted any.

I have him fark labeled as such and I imagine there is a fair number of other Farkers who do as well.

I can do little about your misconception save to say that I regret them. Have a nice day and look after yourself.
 
  2013-04-10 10:22:25 AM
precious_crotchflake: luxup: did you abandon your kids to post this?  You are a crappy dad.  Hope they don't end up like this girl did all on account of you.

Yeah, because it's impossible to read, type and watch your kids play.

"This one displeases me"
//toss away
 
  2013-04-10 10:24:23 AM
Egoy3k:  and for not defending rapists

wow oops that should read "and not for defending rapists"
 
  2013-04-10 10:24:30 AM
Egoy3k: Sorry but the RCMP isn't perfect but they generally reserve the space under the rug for hiding their own internal misconducts, and for not defending rapists. If they say there isn't sufficient evidence for a conviction then there probably isn't and a trial wouldn't accomplish anything other than waste taxpayer money.

This is a sad story but there is literally nothing else that the legal system can do. That doesn't mean the legal system is broken, the system is designed to err on the side of caution when it comes to convictions. This is a universally held concept within the western world and it exists for many very good reasons. I don't like rape any more than anybody else but as terrible as it sounds I'd rather have these rapists and a hundred more walk away from their crimes than one innocent person be convicted of rape.

/I'm probably going to be farkied as a rapist now
//oh well.


No you will not.

But that doesn't mean we cannot know the names and see pics of the 'innocent' ;-)

No crime involved in the details of her experience being shared around, no crime involved in us knowing the details of the sharers.

We all have to live together, be a prick, expect to get pricked.
 
  2013-04-10 10:25:02 AM
Egoy3k: Sorry but the RCMP isn't perfect but they generally reserve the space under the rug for hiding their own internal misconducts, and for not defending rapists. If they say there isn't sufficient evidence for a conviction then there probably isn't and a trial wouldn't accomplish anything other than waste taxpayer money.

This is a sad story but there is literally nothing else that the legal system can do. That doesn't mean the legal system is broken, the system is designed to err on the side of caution when it comes to convictions. This is a universally held concept within the western world and it exists for many very good reasons. I don't like rape any more than anybody else but as terrible as it sounds I'd rather have these rapists and a hundred more walk away from their crimes than one innocent person be convicted of rape.

/I'm probably going to be farkied as a rapist now
//oh well.


Here in the US recently Brian Banks, a guy who had a promising athletic career, was released from jail after 5 years of incarceration for a rape that never happen.  His story at least has something of a happy ending in that at 27 he was picked up by the Atlanta Falcons.  But he lost at least a few years or so off his career for nothing.
 
  2013-04-10 10:27:58 AM
Tatterdemalian: Declaration that you're a part of rape culture in 3... 2...

Already happened, alas. It's a shame, because I have no doubt that social and legal attitudes to rape need constant revision, and branding anyone who disagrees with any aspects of one extreme position as "pro-rape" or "part of rape culture" devalues the whole debate. It is possible to think that accused rapists should get fair trials without advocating that all men carry Rohypnol just in case.
 
  2013-04-10 10:28:10 AM
I only read the first page of TFT; was Pocket Ninja correct in his presumption once this went green?
 
  2013-04-10 10:28:30 AM
Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant


Rape culture is a term used to describe both de facto and de jure instantiations of a particular cluster of mindsets that seek to eliminate, dismiss, or ignore the fundamental rights of women to be able to be the ultimate decider in who she sleeps with and when. It is not unique to the United States. It runs the gamut of laws that have said that married women cannot be considered to have ever been raped by her husband, in spite of her protests, to cultural and subcultural ideas that suggest the way a woman was dressed or her past sexual history should be primary factors in considering whether or not to consider a particular instance a rape or not. It includes the view held by some that under any circumstances men are owed sex by women for any of the following: being nice to them, paying for dinner on a date, not having molested or raped them when they were drunk in the past, etc. Rape culture is a mindset that argues if she cannot say no, say for being too intoxicated - as was attempted by the defense attorney in the Steubenville trial - than she wasn't raped. Rape culture will argue simultaneously that if a rape accuser did not fight off her attacker she wasn't really raped AND that she is responsible for an assault becoming a rape for having tried to fight her attacker off, thus making her attacker more enraged and exculpating him for his reactions. It is a mindset that is more concerned about the consequences of the less than 2% of instances of false accusations of rape than the 20% of women who are raped at least once in their lifetime (of which approximately 2% will ever see their attacker end up in prison). Rape culture considers it more important for men to be able to have sexual gratification than for women to have autonomous control over her body. And, in doing so, in addition to the complete and utter contempt it has for women, it degrades men by removing from men the capacity to be in control of our bodies, of our sexual urges. It is very real, and not every aspect of it is clear-cut. And we all need to open our eyes to this dark aspect of our societies.
 
  2013-04-10 10:30:47 AM
Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant


Rape culture is where the heinous act itself is condoned rather than condemned. Where we're free to defend rapists and blame the victim. Were a victim can be hounded out of his/her own society because of a damaged "reputation". A female Private can accuse a Sergeant of rape and be awarded with dishonorable discharge while he stays in a position of authority where he can perpetrate the crime again with little to no consequence. A teenage girl is allowed to be called a slut and adults do little to nothing about it until she ODs on pills. It's insidious and it bleeds through every level of society because we allow perpetrators to think that it's ok.
 
  2013-04-10 10:31:31 AM
Langdon_777: But that doesn't mean we cannot know the names and see pics of the 'innocent' ;-)

No crime involved in the details of her experience being shared around, no crime involved in us knowing the details of the sharers.

We all have to live together, be a prick, expect to get pricked.


We have very strict laws in Canada about publishing the names and pictures of young offenders in the justice system. That includes accused who haven't gone to trial. I'm sure the community knows and I'm sure those involved could be found with very little digging but you will never see their names or pictures in the media.
 
  2013-04-10 10:31:55 AM
I hope these little shiatheads get arrested and they become someones little biatch for the rest of their farking lives!
 
  2013-04-10 10:36:00 AM
tmcottle: I hope these little shiatheads get arrested and they become someones little biatch for the rest of their farking lives!

Two wrongs don't make a right and wishing for prison rape is one of the more vile cliches of Fark. You aren't helping, not even a little. Rape is unacceptable in any circumstance.
 
  2013-04-10 10:36:14 AM
There are at least three misogynist blame-the-victim assholes in this thread who need to DIAF, literally.

I am not joking.

/this thread almost makes me ashamed to be male
 
  2013-04-10 10:36:23 AM
Lorelle: Popcorn Johnny: Sorry, you don't convict someone of rape based on the word of one person and a photo or two.

When you're so drunk that you're throwing up, it's clear that you are NOT in any condition to give consent to having sex, or to make any rational decision, for that matter.


You can diagnose from a photo? Are you Bill Frist?
 
  2013-04-10 10:36:54 AM
KatjaMouse: Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant

Rape culture is where the heinous act itself is condoned rather than condemned. Where we're free to defend rapists and blame the victim. Were a victim can be hounded out of his/her own society because of a damaged "reputation". A female Private can accuse a Sergeant of rape and be awarded with dishonorable discharge while he stays in a position of authority where he can perpetrate the crime again with little to no consequence. A teenage girl is allowed to be called a slut and adults do little to nothing about it until she ODs on pills. It's insidious and it bleeds through every level of society because we allow perpetrators to think that it's ok.


/me looks around

So no widespread rape culture in the western world then... Thanks....
 
  2013-04-10 10:38:05 AM
Egoy3k: Langdon_777: But that doesn't mean we cannot know the names and see pics of the 'innocent' ;-)

No crime involved in the details of her experience being shared around, no crime involved in us knowing the details of the sharers.

We all have to live together, be a prick, expect to get pricked.

We have very strict laws in Canada about publishing the names and pictures of young offenders in the justice system. That includes accused who haven't gone to trial. I'm sure the community knows and I'm sure those involved could be found with very little digging but you will never see their names or pictures in the media.


Ah but I do not live in Canada, so please feel free to share :D

The boys involved didn't seem to care about sharing around her pic and lets face it they are innocent of any crime, so what is the harm in giving their names and pics to the world at large?
 
  2013-04-10 10:38:40 AM
Egoy3k: tmcottle: I hope these little shiatheads get arrested and they become someones little biatch for the rest of their farking lives!

Two wrongs don't make a right and wishing for prison rape is one of the more vile cliches of Fark. You aren't helping, not even a little. Rape is unacceptable in any circumstance.


Okay, if it was my daughter.........I would kill the shiatheads!
 
  2013-04-10 10:39:23 AM
Trapper439: There are at least three misogynist blame-the-victim assholes in this thread who need to DIAF, literally.

Just three? That's actually not too bad for a main page rape thread.
 
  2013-04-10 10:39:55 AM
Giant Clown Shoe: Phinn: She rides the cock carousel like a champ, goes full attention-whore, gets tatted up, drinks like a sailor and dresses like a cheap prostitute.

Then she wonders why no one wants her except for use as a fark-hole.

Even though you're clearly a straight bullshiat troll, everything we say and do has consequences.

You'll end up paying for that cruel comment.  When something bad happens to you I hope you think back on just how awful what you said was and remember you had it coming.

/good luck


Thanks for the well-wishes, but I suspect you completely missed my point.

I think it's really sad that she killed herself.  But it didn't happen in a vacuum.  She wasn't sitting in her bedroom, quietly studying her beloved science textbook when a mad, bearded lunatic stranger crept in through her window, kidnapped her and raped her under a bridge.

She clearly had some bad ideas about how the world works.  Those bad ideas led to her being raped (if it was rape) and her suicide that followed.

One of the contributing factors here was therefore this set of ideas that led her to behave this way.  But, for some reason, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO QUESTION THESE IDEAS.

You probably don't even see what I'm talking about.  But let's change the context.  Imagine that psychedelic drugs were not illegal.  Let's say that there were a broad cultural movement that repeatedly encouraged adolescent males to believe that a really great way to act is the Vagabond Lifestyle -- they are told that, to be really happy and fulfilled as a young man today, they need to divest themselves of all their material possessions, get deeply involved in psychedelic drug use, hang out with other drug users, and listen to all kinds of weird music in seedy places.  One of the key elements of this lifestyle is to have no fixed address, and to float on the seas of chance.  Ah, freedom!  Ah, spontaneity!  Who could dispute the value of these things?  This is what it means to be a man!

But let's say that people start to notice that this type of behavior leads to some young men finding themselves deeply unhappy later in life.  They miss out on marriage, having kids, meaningful careers they otherwise would have had, and being generally rejected by the kind of women that they would prefer that like them in return.

And, let's say that for a substantial number of them, their lives end up far worse - these men end up more than with just a vague, gnawing sense of life-dissatisfaction.  Some of them end up living in cardboard boxes, and sucking cock in dark alleys for a dollar just to get enough to eat.  And every now and then, the guys who suck cock for money get the crap kicked out of them and their shoes get stolen.

How would you react to this situation?  Is it a crime that the Vagabond Lifestyle devotee, poor unfortunate young man that he is, got his ribs kicked in and shoes stolen?  Yes, of course.  He's a victim here.

But, somewhere along the way, someone might stop to ask how all these young men are getting into that situation in the first place.  Especially if this unfortunate life story were a pattern that seemed to occur a lot.

What would people say about the cultural movement that promoted this Vagabond Lifestyle?  Would it be socially permissible to criticize it?  Would people be shamed into silence if they DARED to point out that there is a rather OBVIOUS connection between ending up alone and dissatisfied, or even worse (destitute, sucking cock, and a victim of brutal crimes just to take your shoes)?

Or would it be OK with you if someone were to come along and say, "Hey, there's a direct correlation between the Vagabond Lifestyle and ending up with nothing, and also increasing your risk of being victimized."?

I don't blame this young girl.

I blame her parents, and all of the other people in her life (many of whom she didn't even know, i.e., those who controlled her media consumption) who repeatedly taught her that getting tatted up, dressing like a street whore, chasing cock, and getting sot drunk around a bunch of horny teenagers is a good idea.

Someone might have taken her aside at some point and said, "There's a direct correlation between your lifestyle and ending up dissatisfied with how other people treat you -- they will tend to think of you only as a warm hole, at best, and at worst, an unwilling warm hole when you aren't in a position to resist."

But, apparently, I'm not allowed to say these things.
 
  2013-04-10 10:41:44 AM
I can't judge either party as I don't know what happened but I feel it's crazy that someone would kill themselves over bullying.  She could have moved, started over, got off the internet, changed her name, anything is better than killing yourself.
 
  2013-04-10 10:41:51 AM
KatjaMouse: Rape culture is where the heinous act itself is condoned rather than condemned. Where we're free to defend rapists and blame the victim. Were a victim can be hounded out of his/her own society because of a damaged "reputation". A female Private can accuse a Sergeant of rape and be awarded with dishonorable discharge while he stays in a position of authority where he can perpetrate the crime again with little to no consequence. A teenage girl is allowed to be called a slut and adults do little to nothing about it until she ODs on pills. It's insidious and it bleeds through every level of society because we allow perpetrators to think that it's ok.

And women can make up stories and send men to jail for years.

And the whole 'being drunk' excuse is BS.

If a woman gets drunk and decides to have sex - she is a victim.
If a woman gets drunk and gets in the car - she is a criminal.
 
  2013-04-10 10:42:16 AM
KatjaMouse: Rape culture is where the heinous act itself is condoned rather than condemned. Where we're free to defend rapists and blame the victim.

My problem with this is in the use of the word "culture", which suggest to me that these repulsive attitudes are being suggested as widespread in society. There may well be small groups which amongst themselves condone rape amongst other sexual misbehaviours, but I simply do not accept that it is typical of our society.

In fact, I think the western world is getting steadily more stringent on what constitutes rape and on how it should be treated. Marital rape was abolished in the UK in 1991, male rape was recognised by the Scots legal system in 2010 and behaviour by a string of TV celebrities which was treated as a perk of fame in the 60s, 70s and 80s is occupying a lot of police time here and will soon occupy a lot of court time and a lot of headlines.

If you want to see what a rape culture looks like, see tribal Pakistan, where village elders routinely order gang rape as a punishment for the most minor social and sexual transgressions.
 
  2013-04-10 10:42:25 AM
Private_Citizen: It's been a few years since I read it, but didn't "The Godfather" start like that? A man's daughter is raped, the rapists walk due to the crappy legal system and the aggrieved father (an old world fellow who had an old world sense of honor) appealed to Don Corleone for justice.

The rapists didn't make it.

/I love a happy book.


Yep.  Guy did it the legal way and got screwed.  So he called Don Vito to have them permanently rearranged.


Of course, the cost was doing Sonny's funeral.
 
  2013-04-10 10:43:52 AM
Kome: Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant

Rape culture is a term used to describe both de facto and de jure instantiations of a particular cluster of mindsets that seek to eliminate, dismiss, or ignore the fundamental rights of women to be able to be the ultimate decider in who she sleeps with and when. It is not unique to the United States. It runs the gamut of laws that have said that married women cannot be considered to have ever been raped by her husband, in spite of her protests, to cultural and subcultural ideas that suggest the way a woman was dressed or her past sexual history should be primary factors in considering whether or not to consider a particular instance a rape or not. It includes the view held by some that under any circumstances men are owed sex by women for any of the following: being nice to them, paying for dinner on a date, not having molested or raped them when they were drunk in the past, etc. Rape culture is a mindset that argues if she cannot say no, say for being too intoxicated - as was attempted by the defense attorney in the Steubenville trial - than she wasn't raped. Rape culture will argue simultaneously that if a rape accuser did not fight off her attacker she wasn't really raped AND that she is responsible for an assault becoming a rape for having tried to fight her attacker off, thus making her attacker more enraged and exculpating him for his reactions. It is a mindset that is more concerned about the consequences o ...


Wow. Well said. I knew I had you in green for a reason.
 
  2013-04-10 10:44:22 AM
tmcottle: Egoy3k: tmcottle: I hope these little shiatheads get arrested and they become someones little biatch for the rest of their farking lives!

Two wrongs don't make a right and wishing for prison rape is one of the more vile cliches of Fark. You aren't helping, not even a little. Rape is unacceptable in any circumstance.

Okay, if it was my daughter.........I would kill the shiatheads!


Sure and I wouldn't blame you I would feel the same way.

I would also fully support you being convicted of first degree murder.
 
  2013-04-10 10:44:53 AM
Lorelle: It REALLY makes me sick knowing that other females also attacked her after the fact.

Teenage girls are the least compassionate creatures on the planet. Even honey badger steers clear. Teenage boys are right behind them. I think it's some kind of mixture of ignorance and hormones.


I think partly it's because the don't want to think it could happen to them, so they have to come up with some way in their heads that the victim did something to bring it on herself.
 
  2013-04-10 10:46:49 AM
Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant


Rape Culture is the conglomerate of misunderstandings about rape and collateral consequences. For example:

Saying she asked for it because of how she was dressed
Saying she must've wanted it because she is a slut
Saying she was drunk and passed-out, so it's ok to fark her
Saying they're football players so we'll cover up for them
Saying she invited him in, so she led him on and deserved it

That's an incomplete list, but culture is all those things that are pervasive throughout society, so if the above are common, even if not universal, that means you have a culture that makes excuses for rapists. In other words, Rape Culture.

If your first thought is how to mitigate the responsibility of the rapist, if your first instinct is to think she's lying, if your first move is to start listing things she should have done to avoid it, then you might just have been programmed by Rape Culture.

And it exists in one form or another, to one degree to another, throughout the world.
 
  2013-04-10 10:49:29 AM
orbister:  male rape was recognised by the Scots legal system in 2010

2010?

And we have the nerve to biatch about the Muslim countries who are (around) 100 years behind.

We do tend to suck as a race, it takes us a hell of a lot of pressure (bad shiat and individual suffering ... guess that is why was called the Suffrage Movement ;) before we get off our arses and change something.
 
  2013-04-10 10:49:42 AM
Egoy3k: tmcottle: Egoy3k: tmcottle: I hope these little shiatheads get arrested and they become someones little biatch for the rest of their farking lives!

Two wrongs don't make a right and wishing for prison rape is one of the more vile cliches of Fark. You aren't helping, not even a little. Rape is unacceptable in any circumstance.

Okay, if it was my daughter.........I would kill the shiatheads!

Sure and I wouldn't blame you I would feel the same way.

I would also fully support you being convicted of first degree murder.


Totally agree with you.
 
  2013-04-10 10:51:12 AM
vygramul: Maul555: I am confused.  WTF is rape culture?  I am pretty sure its a thing that only exists in the dark recesses of a fetish niche...    Why are people blaming a "rape culture" for this shiat?  There is no such thing as a widespread "rape culture" in this country, or anywhere in the western world for that matter.  We don't blame a "murder culture" for murder because that's farking stupid.  This rape culture bullshiat is equally as stupid here.  In india or the middle east this is actually a thing, but don't try to tag my people with this crap.

/end rant

Rape Culture is the conglomerate of misunderstandings about rape and collateral consequences. For example:

Saying she asked for it because of how she was dressed
Saying she must've wanted it because she is a slut
Saying she was drunk and passed-out, so it's ok to fark her
Saying they're football players so we'll cover up for them
Saying she invited him in, so she led him on and deserved it

That's an incomplete list, but culture is all those things that are pervasive throughout society, so if the above are common, even if not universal, that means you have a culture that makes excuses for rapists. In other words, Rape Culture.

If your first thought is how to mitigate the responsibility of the rapist, if your first instinct is to think she's lying, if your first move is to start listing things she should have done to avoid it, then you might just have been programmed by Rape Culture.

And it exists in one form or another, to one degree to another, throughout the world.


yeah ummm.... I don't see this happening...
 
  2013-04-10 10:52:04 AM
hdhale:

Correct, there isn't a rape culture here.

However, there has always been that small clique of teen boys that do everything together including getting into trouble.  On rare occasion you hear of one that graduates from petty vandalism and minor misdemeanors to felony level stuff.  In my own community, a very good friend of my sister who was 10 or 11 that was molested pretty badly by such a group, long before there was a World Wide Web and cheap digital photography and easy file sharing (there was Polaroid cameras of course but thankfully I don't believe they had one).

Those that "graduate" to felonies like that usually end up in juvie hall and most spend most of their life in and out of prison.

Oh and...looking at the photos in the links of that girl in Canada, I can tell you she was heading for serious trouble and the parents should have reigned her in long before she ended up in a bad situation.  Too late.  That in no way absolves the scum that took advantage of her, but some times the best way not to get mugged is to stop going in bad neighborhoods.


So much THIS. Thank you for talking some real sense here.

I used to be a teen girl myself, and know too well what you are talking about. Mother felt that free love and feminism meant that I was seizing empowerment by going anywhere any time, dressed in anything,  and partying way the hell out of my age range. The best and only protection she gave was to put me on the pill at age twelve just in case I was "raped" (with air quotes, hers). Turns out, such enlightened living doesn't translate well with drunk neanderthals in dark alleys, or cops, or practically anyone else really. Just a failure of communication I suppose. But thank FSM this was before phone cameras and Facebook. I'm betting hidden camera fears have preserved more kids' virginity today than the AIDS crisis and all teen pregnancy TV shows combined.

Yeah, I do feel for this girl.
 
  2013-04-10 10:52:15 AM
giftedmadness: Well it's obvious she wasn't a christian Farkers are being way too nice to her

Or black.
 
  2013-04-10 10:53:03 AM
Phinn: Imagine that psychedelic drugs were not illegal.  Let's say that there were a broad cultural movement that repeatedly encouraged adolescent males to believe that a really great way to act is the Vagabond Lifestyle -- they are told that, to be really happy and fulfilled as a young man today, they need to divest themselves of all their material possessions, get deeply involved in psychedelic drug use, hang out with other drug users, and listen to all kinds of weird music in seedy places.  One of the key elements of this lifestyle is to have no fixed address, and to float on the seas of chance.  Ah, freedom!  Ah, spontaneity!  Who could dispute the value of these things?  This is what it means to be a man!

stormtyy.files.wordpress.com
 
  2013-04-10 10:54:29 AM
vygramul: Saying she asked for it because of how she was dressed
Saying she must've wanted it because she is a slut
Saying she was drunk and passed-out, so it's ok to fark her
Saying they're football players so we'll cover up for them
Saying she invited him in, so she led him on and deserved it

That's an incomplete list, but culture is all those things that are pervasive throughout society, so if the above are common, even if not universal, that means you have a culture that makes excuses for rapists. In other words, Rape Culture.


These things are not pervasive throughout society, or even common, thank goodness.
 
  2013-04-10 10:54:37 AM
Langdon_777: Prison is not necessary, just names and pics - that way the mob can deal with it.

Ah yes, the Duke Lacrosse theory. How did that work out for you?

Because it didn't so well for the people whose lives got ruined by farkers like you.
 
  2013-04-10 10:59:07 AM
Langdon_777: orbister:  male rape was recognised by the Scots legal system in 2010

2010?

And we have the nerve to biatch about the Muslim countries who are (around) 100 years behind.


It's not quite as bad as it sounds. The act was an offence before then, but it was called "indecent assault" and not "rape" and carried the same maximum penalty of life imprisonment. It was a semantic change rather than a fundamental legal one.
 
  2013-04-10 10:59:13 AM
Maul555: yeah ummm.... I don't see this happening...

http://publicshaming.tumblr.com/post/45608534736/the-news-out-of-ste ub enville-today-is-a-small

was trying to find a jpg that had a shiatload of them together on a huge page but am having troubles. Anyways, this is kinda the gist of what people are talking about here in the western world.
 
  2013-04-10 11:00:14 AM
I wonder if her classmates are getting the standard counseling that kids get at school when a classmate kills themselves.

/divides by zero
 
  2013-04-10 11:00:28 AM
As soon as the ship is fixed I'll take some of you with me.
 
  2013-04-10 11:01:17 AM
Maul555: yeah ummm.... I don't see this happening...

That's because you have either been raised right in a family that approaches such things appropriately, or you simply haven't experienced what happens when many women get raped, or haven't been paying attention. Just look at this case. And Steubenville. You think these are outliers?

Go into a high school classroom that hasn't had the benefit of an actual discussion about something like this and ask the question if it's ok for a boy to fondle a girl who is passed out. You'll be dismayed at how many people answer in the affirmative. Ask how many think it's ok for a guy to rape a girl if he feels he "led him on". Ask how many think it's ok if the guy is just really, really horny. You want to hate humanity? You want to feel like you need a bath? Go do that.

And then come back and report how such widespread ideas are neither cultural nor about rape.
 
  2013-04-10 11:04:40 AM
Phinn: and being generally rejected by the kind of women that they would prefer that like them in return.

I read that as 'in rectum'
 
  2013-04-10 11:05:45 AM
orbister: vygramul: Saying she asked for it because of how she was dressed
Saying she must've wanted it because she is a slut
Saying she was drunk and passed-out, so it's ok to fark her
Saying they're football players so we'll cover up for them
Saying she invited him in, so she led him on and deserved it

That's an incomplete list, but culture is all those things that are pervasive throughout society, so if the above are common, even if not universal, that means you have a culture that makes excuses for rapists. In other words, Rape Culture.

These things are not pervasive throughout society, or even common, thank goodness.


In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.

31% of the boys and 32% of the girls said it was acceptable for a man to rape a woman with past sexual experience

(CITATION: White, Jacqueline W. and John A. Humphrey. "Young People's Attitudes Toward Acquaintance Rape." Acquaintance Rape: The Hidden crime." John Wiley and Sons, 1991)

I can go on and on, complete with citations.
 
  2013-04-10 11:08:18 AM
BarkingUnicorn: namatad: gonzoduke: Wait, that was a different article on the same story.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/nova-scotia-teen-kills- he rself-after-being-raped-bullied-online/article10940600/

"just days after the alleged rape. "

Can we STOP CALLING IT ALLEGED?
It was not an alleged rape. it was a RAPE.
She reported that she was raped to the police.
Period.

The people who raped her would best be called unconvicted rapists.
By calling it alleged, we continue to blame the victim.

I find your disrespect for fundamental human rights disturbing.


THIS.

I wish I had the option to downrate the original poster.

It is alleged because it has not been proven.

The "photos" were deemed not to be a criminal matter which likely means they show only that the girl was in the company of the boys in question but no nudity/sexual content. There wasn't enough evidence to charge them meaning DNA samples could not be obtained, or that they gave statements saying the sexual was consensual and there was no evidence obtained to the contrary (eye-witness accounts, defensive wounds, etc.).

I feel terrible for this girl but we have due process for a reason. I personally know a girl who made a false rape claim. Why? She was caught by a friend cheating on her boyfriend, so she claimed it was rape. The friend was my then-GF, and she dragged this girl to the police station to make a statement, because my then-GF fully believed the friend's story. So this girl files a statement saying "So and so forced me to have sex with him."

Days later she's bragging!! to friends about how she got away with cheating by filing a false report. This got back to my GF who confronted her and the girl admitted it. Lucky for her the police never filed charges because it was he-said she-said, and no one ever ratted her pathetic ass out for filing a false police report. My GF would have had the guy been charged because she felt responsible, but since it was dropped she did that one last favour for the friend, and no longer keeps in touch with her.

Not to say this is common, but it happens, and it's why we use the word "alleged" until a trial is held and the outcome (guilty or not) is determined.
 
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