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(Gizmodo)   Sure, Jobs is dead, Apple stock is down, the iPhone 5 and iPad mini were uninspired refreshes, but there's no reason to think that Apple is in....oh......oh no   (gizmodo.com) divider line 27
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2013-04-10 02:32:06 AM
3 votes:

SoCalChris: Apple will spin this as it being revolutionary, and millions of people will rush out to buy it.


Steve Jobs was the source of all that. The company is lost without his uncanny ability to convince the gullible that buying mediocre products would give them an identity and feeling that they're part of a revolution. Now everyone just sees mediocre products.
wee [TotalFark]
2013-04-09 09:55:51 PM
3 votes:

bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4. And how can the iPad mini be a "refresh" when they didn't sell one before?

Yes, Jobs is dead. You got one fact right there, so you're above average for the iHater Squad.


You're an iBeliever in iReligion, aren't you?
2013-04-10 08:57:47 AM
2 votes:

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


Me.  I own an iphone 4s, but I envy my wife with her galaxy S3.  I'm strongly considering moving to the galaxy S4 (or a different android phone) in a year or so when my contract is up, unless all the android phones at that time magically start to suck.  Plus, I won't have to deal with Apple anymore.
2013-04-10 08:30:09 AM
2 votes:

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


I have an iPod touch and everytime I have to use iTunes to manage things I cringe. The hardware is wonderful, I love it, but using iTunes to handle my music collection is a pain the arse. When my Touch dies I'll get a non-Apple product if they haven't significally changed iTunes. Nothing against Apple because I have better things to do than swear allegiance to a product line, but the way iTunes works is beyond stupid.
2013-04-10 06:08:25 AM
2 votes:

simplicimus: I used Bing  for the firs time yesterday, while setting up my new Windows 8 laptop. Seems 90% of the search results are marketing links. Is this just me?.


No, that is what Bing is. The other 10% are ripped off from Google.
2013-04-09 09:11:32 PM
2 votes:
Dear God NO

Please be one of those shiatty Apple rumors.
2013-04-09 08:40:21 PM
2 votes:
Damn that is great for Yahoo...not sure about anyone else
2013-04-09 08:31:38 PM
2 votes:
bahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, i agree with tag.
2013-04-10 12:02:08 PM
1 votes:
Publikwerks:
LIsten, what I'm saying is that for Apple to be dead, you will need to get people to switch. New users make one device more profitable, but since Apple is currently profitable, it's not going anywhere. Being the biggest company in the world, if they maintain their profit margin, they will be just fine. What you need is to get people to stop buying Apple products and move to Android to then make Apple unprofitable, and therefore, signal the downfall of Apple. To do that, you will need a game changer. You will need something that makes Apple users say "Wow, I need that".

But what I'm saying is that there will never be just ONE game changer.  The technology is simply progressing too fast.  Instead, there will be a bunch of smaller features that people will find useful here and there.  I mentioned the Note and the barometer earlier, and those are selling points...to me (I'd call them game changers but, ultimately, each individual user decides what a game changer really is).  The Samsung phones have featured larger screens than the iPhone for a while now, which is really nice for reading; someone might consider that a game changer.

I'm here defending Samsung, but the technology that I'm really lusting after: The full MS Office Suite on a Note-style phablet device.  And I don't give a damned who makes that first.  Hell, I'm up for giving up any digits or organs that I have more than one of to make that happen.
2013-04-10 10:07:15 AM
1 votes:

thornhill: And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.


iPhone 5 - 112 grams
iPhone 4S - 137 grams

Difference being 25 grams or .88 ounces if that much weight really makes a difference to you then I feel really sorry for your weak newborn arms.  I would take a phone that is twice as heavy if it gives me a week long charge.
2013-04-10 09:46:40 AM
1 votes:

AntonChigger: IntertubeUser: thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.

Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.

To be fair, you could probably use the internet on your iphone to find out what your altitude is, but I suppose that would be less direct than measuring with your phone

/not a ifanboy


If you're in the mountains, odds are you don't have a signal.


So.... yeah. Good luck getting that info from the internet w/o "4G" or wifi.
2013-04-10 09:31:33 AM
1 votes:
thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.


Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.
2013-04-10 08:46:32 AM
1 votes:

stuhayes2010: Marmilman: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


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There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.

A quick google search:  Microsoft earned 20billion, google 14 billion last quarter.  So, math says Apple is bigger than those two combined.  But don't let math get in the way of your Apple hate rant.


Earnings are not size, and size is not worth.  The correct measurement of  worth would be Market Capitalization:

APPL: 400.96B
MSFT: 248.02B
GOOG: 256.36B

Apple is not worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.  It is worth more than either individually.

/I used yahoo finance to look this up.
2013-04-10 08:33:14 AM
1 votes:

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


Do you know anyone with a job? You don't actually have to wish for a phone, you can buy it.
2013-04-10 08:06:42 AM
1 votes:
They already integrate with Twitter and Facebook. I suspect they finally figured out that it is better to integrate with existing online content than to try creating their own. We don't need another Ping (or hero, if you ask Tina Turner).
2013-04-10 07:32:40 AM
1 votes:
Apple's best days are behind it.  Samsung crams more things into their smart phones and they aren't trapped by the bizarre, goofy ideals of Jobs.  Case in point...the Note series.  Steve Jobs swore that no Apple product would ever have a stylus.  With that decision, Apple was vulnerable with the college market; I'm seeing more and more Samsung Notes (and Microsoft Surface Pros) on college campuses.

(And, before someone says that it's faster to type than to write...that's true...until you take a college math class.  Or have to draw diagrams.)

The legendary Steve Jobs ego, carried on by less-capable leadership, will be Apple's undoing.
2013-04-10 05:48:07 AM
1 votes:

gozar_the_destroyer: \now if only Nokia would make a proper smartphone


2.bp.blogspot.com

Phones don't come any smarter than the N900.
2013-04-10 04:42:54 AM
1 votes:

WhyteRaven74: gozar_the_destroyer: hard to borrow money

they could build their own assembly plant on the most expensive industrial land in California and not even notice they spent the money, borrowing is not something they need to worry about.


They don't have the expertise to run it though and that would drive up the price. You can't just build a plant and hire a couple of managers to run it. It is a team effort between corperate, engineering/RD, marketing (they have that down), distribution and production. They outsource the last two to save money and because they have no idea how those things work. Sure, they could figure it out, but it would ad cost per unit. The price point they sell at is what people are willing to pay for their iThings every time a new one comes out. Unless they wanted to take a slash to profits (like hell) they would have to raise the price to the point that many of their consumers would be willing to skip devices. This would again, eat into profit.

Apple has marketing, price point and basic functionality down pretty well. However, they have done very little in the way of creating new hardware technologies. They simply package what other companies design and write an OS for it that is functional for 90% of users.

What I would like to know is why they are sitting on such massive cash stores.
2013-04-10 04:18:24 AM
1 votes:

OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


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It won't be able to sustain it's business model.
2013-04-10 03:57:30 AM
1 votes:
The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."



i.imgur.com
2013-04-10 03:52:40 AM
1 votes:

OriginalGamer: And yet Apple is still having $50 billion *quarters*. Not Yearly revenue, just in 3 months.

I'm not saying Apple is perfect by any means, but it may be a tad premature to think they are in any kind of trouble as a company.


Doomed to die?  No.

Doomed to lose their dominance and just become "One of several major companies in the market" a la Microsoft?  Absolutely.
2013-04-10 02:59:09 AM
1 votes:
Meh. This is integration of Yahoo data in iOS services. Apple will not risk another corporate black eye and replace Google as the default search anytime soon.
2013-04-10 02:32:50 AM
1 votes:
24.media.tumblr.com

/really iHaters - get a life
2013-04-10 02:20:01 AM
1 votes:
For those of you who are new to this whole "internet" thing... working with Yahoo is the equivalent of being sold to EA...

You're gonna die.
2013-04-10 12:07:57 AM
1 votes:

bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4.


Yes, the S4 is also an uninspired refresh, I'm not sure people would argue that the way they argue against an iPhone 5 being one. Although the 4S was way more uninspired since it didn't even have the increased screen size. The difference is that way fewer Android people line up to trade in their perfectly functioning phones for refreshes. And without Steve Jobs at the reigns, Apple buyers are starting to wane as well because he was a modern day P.T. Barnum.
2013-04-09 11:51:56 PM
1 votes:

wee: bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4. And how can the iPad mini be a "refresh" when they didn't sell one before?

Yes, Jobs is dead. You got one fact right there, so you're above average for the iHater Squad.

You're an iBeliever in iReligion, aren't you?


If the past is any indication, Yahoo! better gear up their servers, because every Apple fanboy on Earth is going to use them religiously. In fact, if they license the "i-whatever" trademark and start calling themselves iYahoo! they'll overtake Google again in no time. That's not even to mention the Spanish speakers.
2013-04-09 08:44:28 PM
1 votes:
Damn. I forgot my Yahoo login and password more than a decade ago. Maybe I should make a new one so I can take advantage of all the fail coming to the iPhone I will never buy.
 
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