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(Gizmodo)   Sure, Jobs is dead, Apple stock is down, the iPhone 5 and iPad mini were uninspired refreshes, but there's no reason to think that Apple is in....oh......oh no   (gizmodo.com ) divider line
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2013-04-10 04:52:33 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: This would again, eat into profit.


given how much cash they have they could eat the extra costs and not raise prices and not worry about a slightly reduced profit margin. And they certainly have the means to hire anyone they need to do anything they decide to do.
 
2013-04-10 05:16:38 AM  
Yahoo is only a highly visited site because their primary product is "stacking into google search"
 
2013-04-10 05:41:12 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

They are publicly traded company and the market is losing confidence in them. Good thing they are sitting on their cash wad since it will get really hard to borrow money to crank out the next iThing once there is no investor confidence. Sure, they will be fine, but they will be smaller and injured.

\now if only Nokia would make a proper smartphone


www.techsnapr.com
 
2013-04-10 05:48:07 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: \now if only Nokia would make a proper smartphone


2.bp.blogspot.com

Phones don't come any smarter than the N900.
 
2013-04-10 05:56:17 AM  

seanpg71: gozar_the_destroyer: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

They are publicly traded company and the market is losing confidence in them. Good thing they are sitting on their cash wad since it will get really hard to borrow money to crank out the next iThing once there is no investor confidence. Sure, they will be fine, but they will be smaller and injured.

\now if only Nokia would make a proper smartphone

[www.techsnapr.com image 600x600]


Windows Phone 8...and the hardware is 2 years old. The iPhone 4GS was better and is old.

Gordon Bennett: gozar_the_destroyer: \now if only Nokia would make a proper smartphone

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 532x403]

Phones don't come any smarter than the N900.


If it was 2009 and they had pushed third party app development. My Blackberry from then had a faster CPU, more ram and apps.

\my point was made for me, perhaps I was trolled
 
2013-04-10 06:02:36 AM  
I used Bing  for the firs time yesterday, while setting up my new Windows 8 laptop. Seems 90% of the search results are marketing links. Is this just me?.
 
2013-04-10 06:06:41 AM  
log_jammin: question

Will Apples move to integrate yahoo into it's products be a good thing?

Best answers.

4. Cabbage


images.wikia.com
 
2013-04-10 06:08:25 AM  

simplicimus: I used Bing  for the firs time yesterday, while setting up my new Windows 8 laptop. Seems 90% of the search results are marketing links. Is this just me?.


No, that is what Bing is. The other 10% are ripped off from Google.
 
2013-04-10 06:12:28 AM  
If you actually know Apples ways of doing things and not just parroting the same tired talking points you would know Apple always has a back up or two for every outside supplier. When Apple was using PowerPC processors they had OSX running on intel chips, when they used Nvidia graphics they made sure Ati chips worked etc etc.

So they are doing what they have always done and made sure that if they needed or wanted to replace google products quickly they could.

/Apple make tech for non techies
//You may care about MHz and cores, people care about if they can use it
 
2013-04-10 06:28:00 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: simplicimus: I used Bing  for the firs time yesterday, while setting up my new Windows 8 laptop. Seems 90% of the search results are marketing links. Is this just me?.

No, that is what Bing is. The other 10% are ripped off from Google.


Whereas Google is about 50/50, but they identify which ones are marketing.  Not terribly well, mind, but they do.
 
2013-04-10 06:59:06 AM  

bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4. And how can the iPad mini be a "refresh" when they didn't sell one before?

Yes, Jobs is dead. You got one fact right there, so you're above average for the iHater Squad.


Shouldn't you be spray-painting something bigoted on a mosque somewhere?
 
2013-04-10 07:21:38 AM  
These stories are cute. Apple or Samsung would have to make a major breakthrough or blunder for any real change in the market right now. And  using more Yahoo data isn't going to be a major blunder. Hell, this is a not a big announcement at all.
 
2013-04-10 07:28:51 AM  
Alright Farkers, would anyone mind explaining why it makes sense that so many people in this thread are associating an entire company's financial outlook with a few personal experiences with products?  Having a bad time with a product?  Contact Customer Service.  It's what the department is for.  Most large companies have them.  They have a lot of answers.  They've been through it before.  They have allocated funds intended to help customers who are having a bad time.  Perhaps the problem will turn into a warranty claim.  Perhaps they'll simply take mercy to keep a long-term customer happy (it may be handy to talk to one of their sales people to figure out the average investment that they need to make to get a new customer - you can push for up to that much out of them to keep you if its the first time you're contacting them especially if you mention the right number to a manager).
 
2013-04-10 07:32:40 AM  
Apple's best days are behind it.  Samsung crams more things into their smart phones and they aren't trapped by the bizarre, goofy ideals of Jobs.  Case in point...the Note series.  Steve Jobs swore that no Apple product would ever have a stylus.  With that decision, Apple was vulnerable with the college market; I'm seeing more and more Samsung Notes (and Microsoft Surface Pros) on college campuses.

(And, before someone says that it's faster to type than to write...that's true...until you take a college math class.  Or have to draw diagrams.)

The legendary Steve Jobs ego, carried on by less-capable leadership, will be Apple's undoing.
 
2013-04-10 07:50:49 AM  

IntertubeUser: Apple's best days are behind it.  Samsung crams more things into their smart phones and they aren't trapped by the bizarre, goofy ideals of Jobs.  Case in point...the Note series.  Steve Jobs swore that no Apple product would ever have a stylus.  With that decision, Apple was vulnerable with the college market; I'm seeing more and more Samsung Notes (and Microsoft Surface Pros) on college campuses.

(And, before someone says that it's faster to type than to write...that's true...until you take a college math class.  Or have to draw diagrams.)

The legendary Steve Jobs ego, carried on by less-capable leadership, will be Apple's undoing.


I wouldn't be surprised to see a more accurate stylus on Apple devices. That said, the stuff they cram into the Samsung devices don't seem to be game changing. And to get people to drop the investment in apps and whatnot to change devices, it has to be a game changer.
 
2013-04-10 08:05:18 AM  

Publikwerks: That said, the stuff they cram into the Samsung devices don't seem to be game changing.


How do you figure?  Samsung has been steadily gaining marketshare for several years now.  And if my observation about the Samsung Note at school is remotely close to the truth, what does that say about the direction of Apple's popularity?
 
2013-04-10 08:06:30 AM  

SilentStrider: This headline is bad, and both submitter and the greenlighting admin should feel bad.


I'm still trying to figure out how the iPad Mini, which is still on it's first iteration, is a refresh.

mamoru: But, the important question is, are they beleaguered yet?


Ah 'beleaguered,' the favorite word for the Competition on MacDailyNews.
 
2013-04-10 08:06:42 AM  
They already integrate with Twitter and Facebook. I suspect they finally figured out that it is better to integrate with existing online content than to try creating their own. We don't need another Ping (or hero, if you ask Tina Turner).
 
2013-04-10 08:09:56 AM  
OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...
 
2013-04-10 08:12:00 AM  

Publikwerks: IntertubeUser: Apple's best days are behind it.  Samsung crams more things into their smart phones and they aren't trapped by the bizarre, goofy ideals of Jobs.  Case in point...the Note series.  Steve Jobs swore that no Apple product would ever have a stylus.  With that decision, Apple was vulnerable with the college market; I'm seeing more and more Samsung Notes (and Microsoft Surface Pros) on college campuses.

(And, before someone says that it's faster to type than to write...that's true...until you take a college math class.  Or have to draw diagrams.)

The legendary Steve Jobs ego, carried on by less-capable leadership, will be Apple's undoing.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a more accurate stylus on Apple devices. That said, the stuff they cram into the Samsung devices don't seem to be game changing. And to get people to drop the investment in apps and whatnot to change devices, it has to be a game changer.


That's just it, it is starting to look like (to me anyway) as if the mobile platforms are maturing enough that there isn't necessarily a game changing piece that can be released at this point. Or if there is, its in deep development and is a closely guarded secret so no one can make knock offs.  We're probably going to see evolutionary steps forward for a while as opposed to the large leaps we've become accustomed to.  That opinion heavy statement typed, I'd love to be proved wrong on this front because I love shiny stuff as much as the next guy.

I sure as hell wish I could come up with the next big idea for mobile devices because whoever figures out the next leap forward is going to make some big bucks for a while.

Just for the sake of discussion, I own an S3 and a Note 10.1 and I do enjoy the sniping between Apple and Samsung because it means they're actually competing against each other, which translates to cooler toys.
 
2013-04-10 08:21:28 AM  

IntertubeUser: Apple's best days are behind it. Samsung crams more things into their smart phones and they aren't trapped by the bizarre, goofy ideals of Jobs. Case in point...the Note series. Steve Jobs swore that no Apple product would ever have a stylus. With that decision, Apple was vulnerable with the college market; I'm seeing more and more Samsung Notes (and Microsoft Surface Pros) on college campuses.


Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.
 
2013-04-10 08:22:26 AM  

OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]


There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.
 
2013-04-10 08:23:26 AM  

log_jammin: question

Will Apples move to integrate yahoo into it's products be a good thing?


Best answers.

1. Oh yeah. totally

2. yes. without a doubt.

3. I can't see it being anything but good.

4. Cabbage

5. I hope so. I love yahoo so much!


I like Apple.

I like Cabbage.

2 out of 3 ain't bad.
 
2013-04-10 08:27:20 AM  

ActualFarkal: Maybe I'm wrong here, but Yahoo is still number 4 on the most visited websites in the galaxy according to Alexa.

So either Alexa is a lying liar or Apple is reaching out to the grandmas and plebians who still live on dial-up and still think Yahoo is a thing.

/the entire endeavor is ill-sighted
//my android phone defaults to a yahoo site
///not for lack of trying


Being number 4 out of 7 gazillion websites is bad?  And maybe yahoo will with Apple rather than dictate terms like Google does.
 
2013-04-10 08:30:09 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


I have an iPod touch and everytime I have to use iTunes to manage things I cringe. The hardware is wonderful, I love it, but using iTunes to handle my music collection is a pain the arse. When my Touch dies I'll get a non-Apple product if they haven't significally changed iTunes. Nothing against Apple because I have better things to do than swear allegiance to a product line, but the way iTunes works is beyond stupid.
 
2013-04-10 08:31:08 AM  
i.imgur.com
/oblig
 
2013-04-10 08:31:12 AM  

Marmilman: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.


A quick google search:  Microsoft earned 20billion, google 14 billion last quarter.  So, math says Apple is bigger than those two combined.  But don't let math get in the way of your Apple hate rant.
 
2013-04-10 08:31:18 AM  

thornhill: Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.


So it's like Siri, which apple dedicated an ad campaign to.
 
2013-04-10 08:33:14 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


Do you know anyone with a job? You don't actually have to wish for a phone, you can buy it.
 
2013-04-10 08:39:43 AM  

StrikitRich: SilentStrider: This headline is bad, and both submitter and the greenlighting admin should feel bad.

I'm still trying to figure out how the iPad Mini, which is still on it's first iteration, is a refresh.





The iPad Mini is just a smaller iPad 2. Not that that makes it bad (ipad2/mini is still a nice little machine casual games, e-book reading, and browsing the net). Granted, it's kind of marketed differently, but it's still just a re-freshed package.
 
2013-04-10 08:46:32 AM  

stuhayes2010: Marmilman: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.

A quick google search:  Microsoft earned 20billion, google 14 billion last quarter.  So, math says Apple is bigger than those two combined.  But don't let math get in the way of your Apple hate rant.


Earnings are not size, and size is not worth.  The correct measurement of  worth would be Market Capitalization:

APPL: 400.96B
MSFT: 248.02B
GOOG: 256.36B

Apple is not worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.  It is worth more than either individually.

/I used yahoo finance to look this up.
 
2013-04-10 08:48:28 AM  
whoopee

/or some similar exclamation
 
2013-04-10 08:51:01 AM  

OriginalGamer: Also, I'm not some Apple evangelist, I do own an iPad and a MacBook Pro...but also have a dedicated Windows gaming box, and a Linux media server, and an Xbox 360.

It just amuses me how often and how hard people rage on Apple. Just use whatever works for you, and who cares what anyone else uses?

Some of the threads turn into wankfests the likes of which I haven't seen since grade school arguments over SNES vs. Genesis.


The only thing I really rage about is the iphone.  My wife got a macbook a few months ago and I didn't make her sleep on the couch.  I like how airplay integrates with our surround sound system and some other stuff, but every iphone since 3 has been behind the power curve and Apple is OK with that.  They put out the 4 with a "state of the art" 5 megapixel camera when some budget android phones have better hardware.  My fear is what is going to happen if Apple releases a smart watch and everyone declares it a game changer for having bluetooth and being waterproof.
 
2013-04-10 08:51:20 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: thornhill: Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

So it's like Siri, which apple dedicated an ad campaign to.


Voice operation actually is practical and the future, but it's only going to happen when the technology works 100% of the time. Their mistake with Siri was overprommissing.
 
2013-04-10 08:52:41 AM  

bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4.


Yes, it was, and sales/market impact seem to reflect that it wasn't really sought by upgraders, only people re-buying phones with contract flips... not the ideal situation for the manufacturer, which is what subby's referencing.  Your point?

 And how can the iPad mini be a "refresh" when they didn't sell one before?

So by your logic Street Fighter 2 alpha was a completely new, fresh, and original concept because they technically hadn't released one with 'alpha' in the title before?  Applying 'mini' to something with the same feature specs scaled-down at a slower rate than moore's law isn't really a revolution in device design or marketing, and unlikely to gain any market it's not cannibalizing from the existing market for your device... which, again, isn't the worst thing in the world but kind of a waste of a lot of designer and marketing salaries.
 
2013-04-10 08:53:31 AM  

Adolf Oliver Nipples: wee: bingethinker: If the iPhone 5 was an uninspired refresh, so is the Galaxy S4. And how can the iPad mini be a "refresh" when they didn't sell one before?

Yes, Jobs is dead. You got one fact right there, so you're above average for the iHater Squad.

You're an iBeliever in iReligion, aren't you?

If the past is any indication, Yahoo! better gear up their servers, because every Apple fanboy on Earth is going to use them religiously. In fact, if they license the "i-whatever" trademark and start calling themselves iYahoo! they'll overtake Google again in no time. That's not even to mention the Spanish speakers.


I read that as ¡Yahoo! and thought they already have a Yahoo Mexico...what does that have to do with Apple?

/yeah, I'm going to go make some coffee...
 
2013-04-10 08:57:47 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


Me.  I own an iphone 4s, but I envy my wife with her galaxy S3.  I'm strongly considering moving to the galaxy S4 (or a different android phone) in a year or so when my contract is up, unless all the android phones at that time magically start to suck.  Plus, I won't have to deal with Apple anymore.
 
2013-04-10 09:05:19 AM  

log_jammin: ActualFarkal: Yahoo is still number 4 on the most visited websites in the galaxy according to Alexa.

That honestly surprised me.


Website rankings in Alexa by type:

1. Search engines: Google, Yahoo, Bing, Live, Baidu, etc
2. Social Media: Facebook, Twitter, Tumblrm, Blogspot
3. Beginning at #35 - What The Internet Is For.

I am genuinely surprised the first pron site was so low in the rankings. o_o
 
2013-04-10 09:08:12 AM  

OriginalGamer: Also, I'm not some Apple evangelist, I do own an iPad and a MacBook Pro...but also have a dedicated Windows gaming box, and a Linux media server, and an Xbox 360.

It just amuses me how often and how hard people rage on Apple. Just use whatever works for you, and who cares what anyone else uses?

Some of the threads turn into wankfests the likes of which I haven't seen since grade school arguments over SNES vs. Genesis.


Sega does what NintenDON'T!
 
2013-04-10 09:08:54 AM  

Feepit: log_jammin: ActualFarkal: Yahoo is still number 4 on the most visited websites in the galaxy according to Alexa.

That honestly surprised me.

Website rankings in Alexa by type:

1. Search engines: Google, Yahoo, Bing, Live, Baidu, etc
2. Social Media: Facebook, Twitter, Tumblrm, Blogspot
3. Beginning at #35 - What The Internet Is For.

I am genuinely surprised the first pron site was so low in the rankings. o_o


Its because they always use the search sites to find the porn, guaranteeing use for google, yahoo, etc
 
2013-04-10 09:10:57 AM  

aintnuttintofarkwith: OK OK... Think now, biatches.

How many people do YOU know that have a competing smartphone that WISH they had an iPhone.

Now, compare that to the amount of people that have an iPhone that WISH they had something else.

Be honest, iHater biatches...


I know three people that switched from Android to iPhone
I know at least five that switched from iPhone to Android.
A whole bunch of my coworkers recently either got their first smartphone or are coming off of BlackBerry and they all got a GS3 or a Note 2.
 
2013-04-10 09:13:09 AM  

PanicMan: stuhayes2010: Marmilman: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.

A quick google search:  Microsoft earned 20billion, google 14 billion last quarter.  So, math says Apple is bigger than those two combined.  But don't let math get in the way of your Apple hate rant.

Earnings are not size, and size is not worth.  The correct measurement of  worth would be Market Capitalization:

APPL: 400.96B
MSFT: 248.02B
GOOG: 256.36B

Apple is not worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.  It is worth more than either individually.

/I used yahoo finance to look this up.



Market capitalisation is not true reflection of what a company is worth, its what the herd thinks its worth and this is the same herd that thought Enron was great. To get a true indicator of a company's worth you need to look at sales, profit margin, cash reserves, IP, the place in the market and capitalisation. But that needs allot of information and in-depth knowledge that most analysts don't have never mind laypeople.

Apple shares are almost unique in that they didn't pay dividends so the only way to make money was as a pump and dump scam.

/If i had a £ for every time an analyst said Apple was dead i would be able to afford a new powerbook every year
 
2013-04-10 09:16:43 AM  
Knock the iPad mini all you like but damn if isn't my GoTo tablet for everything.

/has a Gen1, Gen2, Gen3, Mini, and an Asus Transformer TF300
//Does development for mobile games
 
2013-04-10 09:19:18 AM  
i.imgur.com

If this means Marissa Mayer will personally start texting me then bring it on.
 
2013-04-10 09:23:06 AM  

Norfolking Chance: PanicMan: stuhayes2010: Marmilman: OriginalGamer: The numbers for last quarter if anyone cares to read:

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2013/01/23Apple-Reports-Record-Resul ts .html

"47.8 Million iPhones Sold; 22.9 Million iPads Sold"

"The Company posted record quarterly revenue of $54.5 billion..."


[i.imgur.com image 311x311]

There is no farking way Apple is worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.

A quick google search:  Microsoft earned 20billion, google 14 billion last quarter.  So, math says Apple is bigger than those two combined.  But don't let math get in the way of your Apple hate rant.

Earnings are not size, and size is not worth.  The correct measurement of  worth would be Market Capitalization:

APPL: 400.96B
MSFT: 248.02B
GOOG: 256.36B

Apple is not worth more than Microsoft and Google combined.  It is worth more than either individually.

/I used yahoo finance to look this up.


Market capitalisation is not true reflection of what a company is worth, its what the herd thinks its worth and this is the same herd that thought Enron was great. To get a true indicator of a company's worth you need to look at sales, profit margin, cash reserves, IP, the place in the market and capitalisation. But that needs allot of information and in-depth knowledge that most analysts don't have never mind laypeople.

Apple shares are almost unique in that they didn't pay dividends so the only way to make money was as a pump and dump scam.

/If i had a £ for every time an analyst said Apple was dead i would be able to afford a new powerbook every year


So, millions of analysts say Apple is dead each year?
 
2013-04-10 09:31:33 AM  
thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.


Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.
 
2013-04-10 09:36:31 AM  

IntertubeUser: thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.

Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.


To be fair, you could probably use the internet on your iphone to find out what your altitude is, but I suppose that would be less direct than measuring with your phone

/not a ifanboy
 
2013-04-10 09:46:40 AM  

AntonChigger: IntertubeUser: thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.

Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.

To be fair, you could probably use the internet on your iphone to find out what your altitude is, but I suppose that would be less direct than measuring with your phone

/not a ifanboy


If you're in the mountains, odds are you don't have a signal.


So.... yeah. Good luck getting that info from the internet w/o "4G" or wifi.
 
2013-04-10 09:51:31 AM  

WSUCanuck: AntonChigger: IntertubeUser: thornhill:
Here's the difference between Apple and everyone else: Apple focuses on functionality (interface, ease of use, etc.), and companies like Samsung are all about bells and whistles. For example: eye-tracking. It's cool, but solves no problem, nobody is going to make the decision to buy one of their products for it, nobody is going to use it.

(That being said, Apple does spend a lot of time on design and the appearance of their products, but you know what, people like owning pretty gadgets. Mock that all you want, but it helps drive sales, and Apple is more profitable than all of their competitors.)

And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.

Dude...I've held an iPhone.  It's no easier to hold than just about any other smart phone.  And to say that one product is prettier than the other?  Really???

And those bells and whistles ... to the rest of us, those things represent what a phone can do.  My favorite bell and whistle...Samsung's built in barometer sensor which allows for a bunch of meteorological apps and can tell me the altitude when I'm in the mountains.  Just one of many things that my older Galaxy Nexus can do that your iPhone simply can't.

At the end of the day, what the damned thing can do is the most important issue...not some bullshiat, contrived, and heavily-marketed notion of aesthetic.

No wonder Apple is a stale, non-innovating, and hence dying company.  It's too busy listening to its cult of devotees and not listening to the rest of the market.

To be fair, you could probably use the internet on your iphone to find out what your altitude is, but I suppose that would be less direct than measuring with your phone

/not a ifanboy

If you're in the mountains, odds are you don't have a signal.


So.... yeah. Good luck getting that info from the internet w/o "4G" or ...


Hah, I guess I didn't even think of that, good point.
 
2013-04-10 10:07:15 AM  

thornhill: And for all the mocking of the iPhone 5 being a refresh, if you've actually ever held it and then compared to previous iPhones, it's immediately clear how much lighter it is and easier to hold.


iPhone 5 - 112 grams
iPhone 4S - 137 grams

Difference being 25 grams or .88 ounces if that much weight really makes a difference to you then I feel really sorry for your weak newborn arms.  I would take a phone that is twice as heavy if it gives me a week long charge.
 
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