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2013-04-09 07:35:27 PM
AMC May Air Breaking Bad Spinoff with Bob Odenkirk - Would You Watch?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ROB ME OF MY TIME
 
2013-04-09 07:52:13 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: AMC May Air Breaking Bad Spinoff with Bob Odenkirk - Would You Watch?

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY ROB ME OF MY TIME


Story checks out.
 
2013-04-09 07:55:13 PM

unyon: Story checks out.


I would watch the HELL out of this.
 
2013-04-09 08:00:15 PM
I wish I knew a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who could make this happen.
 
2013-04-09 08:21:14 PM
Saul is my favorite character on a show full of great characters.  As much as it seems like a ratings grab on its face, I would absolutely give this a try.
 
2013-04-09 08:23:49 PM
I would at least give it a chance.
 
2013-04-09 08:24:30 PM
i'm going to go against the grain here and say I don't think it'd be all that great. saul is a character who works amazingly as a supporting character. but his almost slap-stick antics work because they contrast with the drama, and give us some levity to release tension in the episodes. on his own, as the main character, it would be tough for him to carry a show without having to resort to almost self parody.
 
2013-04-09 08:24:57 PM
Better Call Saul would be a fine name
 
2013-04-09 08:28:42 PM
yes ,yes ,a thousand times, yes.
 
2013-04-09 08:30:34 PM
Worked for Frasier.
 
2013-04-09 08:30:50 PM

tlchwi02: i'm going to go against the grain here and say I don't think it'd be all that great. saul is a character who works amazingly as a supporting character. but his almost slap-stick antics work because they contrast with the drama, and give us some levity to release tension in the episodes. on his own, as the main character, it would be tough for him to carry a show without having to resort to almost self parody.


I have similar reservations but I think there is a way to make it work.  Have each of the episodes (or a three episode arc) follow another one of his clients.  Maybe have them ultimately all interconnected.  Saul is there in support for each while dealing with the complexities of his client base.

I'm not saying that's great or even good, but I'd imagine they've got some pretty smart/creative people working on making it not suck.
 
2013-04-09 08:33:50 PM
So Saul is going to live through the finale....

Not a HUGE deal but still. Well I guess this show could be a prequel.

Ok, I'm in.

/Especially if they do what Hoban WashBurne just suggested.
 
2013-04-09 08:37:53 PM
I think it would be cool to have the show be a little episodic and each week focus on the story behind each of the burner phones he has stashed in his drawer.
 
2013-04-09 08:38:13 PM
Would the answer be: "Yes!" or "Hell Yes!"?
 
2013-04-09 08:40:06 PM
Saul has to die.
 
2013-04-09 08:42:02 PM

Hoban Washburne: I have similar reservations but I think there is a way to make it work. Have each of the episodes (or a three episode arc) follow another one of his clients. Maybe have them ultimately all interconnected. Saul is there in support for each while dealing with the complexities of his client base.

I'm not saying that's great or even good, but I'd imagine they've got some pretty smart/creative people working on making it not suck.


that would be unique, and the only way it could work I imagine would be to make it unique.... because don't get me wrong, a straight up comedy about a shyster style lawyer who gets involved with some seedy stuff does sound quite funny. the problem I think is that keeping it in the breaking bad universe, where we sort of expect a certain aesthetic and seriousness might be too much of a shift
 
2013-04-09 08:47:46 PM
As long as Bob gets to do his angry yelling voice, I'm all for this.
 
2013-04-09 08:50:41 PM
For those of you unfamiliar with "Angry Bob," go watch this video.
 
2013-04-09 08:55:01 PM
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2013-04-09 09:02:28 PM
Yes, and just to be different, I want it to be a sitcom shot in front of a live audience.
 
2013-04-09 09:02:43 PM
AWESOME.

I knew they'd been kicking this idea around for some time, and that both Gilligan and Odenkirk were on board, but wasn't sure if the network would ever sign off on it. Now it looks like that's a distinct possibility; I'm glad the reception has been so positive (although I don't know why it wouldn't be).

For example, I'd be interested to find out just how Saul got involved with the likes of Mike and Gus.
 
2013-04-09 09:07:27 PM
You don't want a criminal lawyer... you want a criminal lawyer.
 
2013-04-09 09:08:16 PM

jbc: Yes, and just to be different, I want it to be a sitcom shot in front of a live audience.


Why would say these things?!?! Is there just no joy in your life?

Although, it does seem like every show always has some drug fueled dream sequence that takes them to the sit-com stage with a live audience.
 
2013-04-09 09:15:17 PM
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2013-04-09 09:22:02 PM
OK a full blown two dozen eps a season sitcom would run out of steam fast but a Brit style 8 show per season hit-it-and-quit-it would work.
They also need to make it funny and dark with nods to the original show and tie-ins.
Tell you what- if you make it I'll DL it from Pirate Bay and watch it. Deal?
 
2013-04-09 09:25:10 PM
His office on BB is an incredible set piece.
 
2013-04-09 09:26:49 PM

tlchwi02: i'm going to go against the grain here and say I don't think it'd be all that great. saul is a character who works amazingly as a supporting character. but his almost slap-stick antics work because they contrast with the drama, and give us some levity to release tension in the episodes. on his own, as the main character, it would be tough for him to carry a show without having to resort to almost self parody.


I've got a newsflash for you: Breaking Bad is a black comedy. It's a comedy without Saul or with him. Walt leaves more bodies in his wake than the Zyclon-B delivery guy in WWII Poland, which is about the farthest thing from being a serious drama as you can get.

Once you realize that, things become more obvious... and funny.

I suspect it will become very apparent in the last half of this final season.

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In contrast, another show often confused as "Drama" is Sons Of Anarchy, which is really a soap opera for men. Yes, it's a guilty pleasure for me, but I can't help but feel a slight amount of shame for enjoying that show.
 
2013-04-09 09:29:11 PM
PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY!!

/yes!
 
2013-04-09 09:34:30 PM
It could work, i think, if they slowed him down a little and established that his fast-talking schtick is a front to dazzle and cajole his clients, and that there's a real guy behind all the flimflam.  I'm watching the series for the first time, and there's an episode where his facade comes down -- when he quietly and seriously offers "a paddle" to Walter in the form of suggesting that he pay a guy to disappear him from Albuquerque and give him a new life elsewhere.  He seems like a different person for that minute, actually speaking from the heart rather than from his wallet.  That's the Saul you'd want to explore in a spin-off.

He's probably a lot like Walter -- a guy who started out honestly, but ended up getting mired in sleaze because the universe was able to drag him down.
 
2013-04-09 09:35:30 PM
Just what TV needs: a show about lawyers!
 
2013-04-09 09:42:47 PM

ontariolightning: Saul has to die.


It could still be done. It's not like we're to believe Heisenberg is Saul's only client, right? Just set it up so it shows what Saul was working on in those moments right before and right after WW and company visit him.
 
2013-04-09 09:46:19 PM

Spaced Lion: ...I'd be interested to find out just how Saul got involved with the likes of Mike and Gus.

Hoban Washburne: Have each of the episodes (or a three episode arc) follow another one of his clients.  Maybe have them ultimately all interconnected.  Saul is there in support for each while dealing with the complexities of his client base.


ghall3:  ...could be a prequel.


Make it a dark dromedy. Make it a prequel. Have the show focus on Saul and a rotating cast of at least loosely connected clients. Have Mike around as a guy that handles things.

In the dramatic series finale after the final story is resolved, maybe even after the credits have run, the show really ends when Saul is contacted by a Mr. Mayhew who is seeking legal representation for his nephew, Badger, who was recently arrested for dealing meth...
 
2013-04-09 09:58:11 PM

ontariolightning: Saul has to die.


NO! The sleazy lawyer survives the apocalypse. He's a cockroach.
 
2013-04-09 09:59:44 PM

LesserEvil: I've got a newsflash for you: Breaking Bad is a black comedy. It's a comedy without Saul or with him. Walt leaves more bodies in his wake than the Zyclon-B delivery guy in WWII Poland, which is about the farthest thing from being a serious drama as you can get.


we'll have to agree to disagree then. i'd say its generally classified as a drama, written as one, and all the awards given to it have been in the dramatic categories, so the wider artistic world considers it a drama at heart. it manages to find humor in the dark nature of its subject matter, but I don't think the intent of the creators was to be "funny" first and foremost.
 
2013-04-09 10:11:02 PM

tlchwi02: LesserEvil: I've got a newsflash for you: Breaking Bad is a black comedy. It's a comedy without Saul or with him. Walt leaves more bodies in his wake than the Zyclon-B delivery guy in WWII Poland, which is about the farthest thing from being a serious drama as you can get.

we'll have to agree to disagree then. i'd say its generally classified as a drama, written as one, and all the awards given to it have been in the dramatic categories, so the wider artistic world considers it a drama at heart. it manages to find humor in the dark nature of its subject matter, but I don't think the intent of the creators was to be "funny" first and foremost.


I think Vince Gilligan agrees with me.

...but that won't stop them from collecting all those "dramatic series" awards.

/Off to find Wilder Napalm
 
2013-04-09 10:13:59 PM

fusillade762: Just what TV needs: a show about lawyers!


Really. Another Goddamned lawyer show. But at least this might have a parody angle to it.
 
2013-04-09 10:19:15 PM

fusillade762: Just what TV needs: a show about lawyers!


happyhealthyrunner.com

uh, yes....
 
2013-04-09 10:23:02 PM
Bring in David Cross and make it more skit centric
 
2013-04-09 10:33:32 PM

ghall3: So Saul is going to live through the finale....

Not a HUGE deal but still. Well I guess this show could be a prequel.


Saul's a cockroach; of course he's going to live through the finale.
 
2013-04-09 10:33:33 PM

Saiga410: Bring in David Cross and make it more skit centric



Or make is a crossover series, and have Cross come in as Todd Margaret, in need of Saul's legal advice.
 
2013-04-09 10:47:08 PM

UberNeuman: fusillade762: Just what TV needs: a show about lawyers!

[happyhealthyrunner.com image 426x306]

uh, yes....


Saul's new sidekick:

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2013-04-09 10:48:18 PM

Hoban Washburne: tlchwi02: i'm going to go against the grain here and say I don't think it'd be all that great. saul is a character who works amazingly as a supporting character. but his almost slap-stick antics work because they contrast with the drama, and give us some levity to release tension in the episodes. on his own, as the main character, it would be tough for him to carry a show without having to resort to almost self parody.

I have similar reservations but I think there is a way to make it work.  Have each of the episodes (or a three episode arc) follow another one of his clients.  Maybe have them ultimately all interconnected.  Saul is there in support for each while dealing with the complexities of his client base.

I'm not saying that's great or even good, but I'd imagine they've got some pretty smart/creative people working on making it not suck.


At first I was like "Yeah, make it 30 minutes, comedy show".   But, I almost have to agree with that assessment about him being levity against the drama of the rest of the show.  Certainly other characters also provide that, but, Saul personifies it, and is rarely "serious" in the show.

I think an hour long drama that is more of a "Quantum Leap" type anthology, where Saul is the continuous link between each show, but, in general, a different "client" is focused on each week, would work well.  You have to imagine Saul has plenty more "sketchy" characters that he provides services for.
 
2013-04-09 10:59:57 PM

LesserEvil: In contrast, another show often confused as "Drama" is Sons Of Anarchy, which is really a soap opera for men. Yes, it's a guilty pleasure for me, but I can't help but feel a slight amount of shame for enjoying that show.


I keep watching that show, but I don't know why.  I don't enjoy it that much.  The first season was too cliched and preachy, season 2 and 3 were the best because of that crazy FBI agent lady, and these past two seasons have been kinda "meh."  At least they're back on track with Jackson and Clay duking it out for power.
 
2013-04-09 11:02:14 PM
You could cover every facet of Saul's job, home, and work lives in one hour long episode. Plenty of other shows do this with fan favorite supporting characters and it works great...once or twice. I'm reminded of the one episode of Supernatural where it followed Bobby through out a day and was funny as hell, yet poignant. Saul is a great character, but he couldn't lead a series.
 
2013-04-09 11:06:53 PM
Get Ronnie Dobbs involved and I'm in.  Y'all keep brutalizing me!
 
2013-04-09 11:15:52 PM
Do a Law and Order type show from the view of the defense counsel and all of the stuff a lawyer like Saul would do to get his client off.
 
2013-04-09 11:16:41 PM
Eh, this could really easily be a disaster.

One of the reasons the character is so great is because he and Walt are such an odd couple.

And the spinoff cannot just be Saul mentoring other inept criminals.
 
2013-04-09 11:18:27 PM

LesserEvil: tlchwi02: LesserEvil: I've got a newsflash for you: Breaking Bad is a black comedy. It's a comedy without Saul or with him. Walt leaves more bodies in his wake than the Zyclon-B delivery guy in WWII Poland, which is about the farthest thing from being a serious drama as you can get.

we'll have to agree to disagree then. i'd say its generally classified as a drama, written as one, and all the awards given to it have been in the dramatic categories, so the wider artistic world considers it a drama at heart. it manages to find humor in the dark nature of its subject matter, but I don't think the intent of the creators was to be "funny" first and foremost.

I think Vince Gilligan agrees with me.

...but that won't stop them from collecting all those "dramatic series" awards.

/Off to find Wilder Napalm


The first episode opens with a man in tighty-whities standing in the middle of the road and the second episode has a decomposing body melt through a tub and floor, making a mess everywhere.  If those don't sound like sitcom setups, I don't know what does.
 
2013-04-09 11:20:18 PM
It's all good, man.

/you all know his name's a pun, right?
 
2013-04-09 11:24:44 PM
This could be very interesting.
 
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