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  2013-04-09 03:05:23 PM
WTF Indeed: It's a good thing gun control advocates have been pushing a massive mental health overhaul instead of banning weapons rarely used in gun crimes.

I know!
 
  2013-04-09 03:05:31 PM
Well if he just had to pass a background check before he could get his knife this might not have happened.  If you buy a knife on the internet right now there's no background checks at all.

I know plenty of people want to have a knife in there home, but really how many do they need?  I've seen entire butcher blocks full at some peoples home, and there right out in the open where their children can get to them.  they should really be kept locked up.

thinking about knifes more seriously we should put a limit on blade length.  No one needs a knife with more than a 3 inch capacity.
 
  2013-04-09 03:06:04 PM
TimonC346: Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

I know. This drives me nuts--if you ramp up the weapon just a little bit--say, to a tank--and ask, should we allow people who are clinically insane operate tanks?

The level of damage the object can inflict is important in these issues. I'm less worried about a psychopath with a wad of newspaper than I am of one with an assault rife. Stop playing the "it's only the psychopath" card. That argument is horrible.


For that matter, there's a serious qualitative difference between a .38 revolver and a .223 semi-automatic rifle. Note the three survivors of the shooting at the other campus, who were most likely hit with pocket-pistol ammo. I don't think it's unreasonable to draw a line on what guns are legal somewhere between "only rifles and shotguns with a hunting license" and "anti-tank rocket launchers." Where you draw that line is a political decision, not a constitutional one.

/I own an AK, an SKS, several shotguns and small-caliber rifles, and about 25 handguns. But I don't NEED them; they're just toys/investments.
 
  2013-04-09 03:06:26 PM
Marine1: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

FWIW, the article has a picture of someone being carted out of a helicopter. That usually doesn't happen unless it's bad and they need to get someone in surgery right farking now.


2 in critical condition, and 4 flown out by helicopter...
 
  2013-04-09 03:06:32 PM
crazy person + gun + school = fatalities
crazy person + knife + school = injuries
 
  2013-04-09 03:06:41 PM
Maybe these pussies should learn some self defence instead of clamoring to carry a gun which they would probably end up shooting innocent people with when they try to be a hero
 
  2013-04-09 03:06:51 PM
Treygreen13: [i291.photobucket.com image 283x574]

How long do we have to wait?  It's been 26 days since our last mass shooting.

http://dayssincemassshooting.com/
 
  2013-04-09 03:07:02 PM
Honestly - it's just proof that banning crap doesn't work

Because this wacko couldn't , or didn't get a hold of a gun, he found another weapon to use..  Crazy is crazy, doesn't matter what you ban or restrict, how about fixing the god damn crazy...
 
  2013-04-09 03:07:19 PM
Stig2112: A friend of mine works at that college.  I sent her a txt but haven't heard back from her yet.

Good luck. Hope she's okay.
 
  2013-04-09 03:07:51 PM
Well... I guess it's good that gang members are trying to get an education.
 
  2013-04-09 03:08:10 PM
busy chillin': hugram: kaimaru: This is a college.  How is it possible that many people were stabbed?  Was he a sprinter or something?  HOW ABOUT RUNNING AWAY IDIOTS?

One of the college victims that did not run away fast enough...
[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 497x575]

That guy's not the sharpest knife in the gauged nose.


What message do you suppose he is trying to send society?

You know, besides "I'm unemployable."
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:04 PM
Isn't this the same college there was a thread on when there was a shooting? About a year ago? Anyone?
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:08 PM
Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

You do realize that more people were stabbed, beaten to death or clubbed to death in 2011(from when the latest data has been assembled) than shot with any kind of rifle, right? Maybe people have a little bit of a pont here. Going off half-cocked(Pun not intended) isn't going to solve anything if these scary rifles are a small section of the overall problem.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:14 PM
Mikey1969: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

More killed by knives than all rifles, smei-auto, "assault", etc. Included...

Rifles: 323
Edged weapons: 1,694

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

But hey, believe what you want, I guess. You've obviously been on 'selective filter' mode, anyway.


Lets add a third category there:

Rifles:                       323
Edged weapons:      1,694
Handguns                        7,398

So, you must obviously not have any issue with a handgun ban then?
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:43 PM
mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

Yeah, the victims are fine. They're traumatized physically and emotionally and suffering a great of pain and will endure years of anguish, but hey, they're alive, which means they can continue making money for the government through taxation!
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:51 PM
"At least 14 people were hurt Tuesday in a stabbing spree at a Texas community college, authorities said. Sheriff's officials said a suspect was in custody."

I'm guessing the lead would have been a bit different if the attacker had been using a gun.
 
  2013-04-09 03:09:54 PM
CarnySaur: And here's an actual update from FOX News:
Update, 2:25p ET: A local FOX Houston reporter spoke to a student who was in the building at the time of the stabbing. Students huddled into a classroom in order to flee the scene. The student said, "We wish we could have protected ourselves with guns and stuff. We wish that the law would let us carry guns because we're legal adults, and carry guns on campus to protect ourselves. But so far what we have to rely on is God. We'd love to have God and the law on our side."


But all you need is God on your side. The Bible Says you can do all things through Christ Who Strenthens you!

Be strong in your faith, Christian Soldier!
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:01 PM
Bravo Two: TimonC346: Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

I know. This drives me nuts--if you ramp up the weapon just a little bit--say, to a tank--and ask, should we allow people who are clinically insane operate tanks?

The level of damage the object can inflict is important in these issues. I'm less worried about a psychopath with a wad of newspaper than I am of one with an assault rife. Stop playing the "it's only the psychopath" card. That argument is horrible.

A recognized class of mental illness drives individuals to be violent, with whatever means they can get ahold of.
People who wish to commit crimes will use whatever means are expedient to their ends.

Why is it so hard to understand that while you may reduce the body count by restricting the objects USED, you'll reduce the actual incidents of crime by seeking to stop the individual, and thus effort made to resolve the issues of people are of greater import than attempts to pass laws that do little to affect the types of changes you're arguing we need them for?


I don't think no one should have the right--I think arseholes like the NRA need to man up and admit that background checks don't violate the second amendment.
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:04 PM
Smeggy Smurf: The fully automatic Glock AK-15 assault knife is the scariest black knife around.

Because it doesn't have a safety.
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:32 PM
Publikwerks: Mikey1969: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

More killed by knives than all rifles, smei-auto, "assault", etc. Included...

Rifles: 323
Edged weapons: 1,694

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

But hey, believe what you want, I guess. You've obviously been on 'selective filter' mode, anyway.

Lets add a third category there:

Rifles:                       323
Edged weapons:      1,694
Handguns                        7,398

So, you must obviously not have any issue with a handgun ban then?


Now subtract roughly 60% of that number which are suicides...
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:40 PM
meddleRPI: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

Yeah, the victims are fine. They're traumatized physically and emotionally and suffering a great of pain and will endure years of anguish, but hey, they're alive, which means they can continue making money for the government through taxation!


That's some twisted shiat right there.
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:40 PM
meddleRPI: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

Yeah, the victims are fine. They're traumatized physically and emotionally and suffering a great of pain and will endure years of anguish, but hey, they're alive, which means they can continue making money for the government through taxation!


Man, can't believe they got gypped out of the sweet release of death.
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:42 PM
Red Shirt Blues: Isn't this the same college there was a thread on when there was a shooting? About a year ago? Anyone?

http://www.fark.com/comments/7690633/83515151#c83515151
 
  2013-04-09 03:10:52 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
Souless bastard.
 
  2013-04-09 03:11:06 PM
GoldSpider: busy chillin':

That guy's not the sharpest knife in the gauged nose.

What message do you suppose he is trying to send society?

You know, besides "I'm unemployable."


That he is on the cutting edge of fashion?

or

Stand way way way back when I sneeze?
 
  2013-04-09 03:11:14 PM
hugram: kaimaru: This is a college.  How is it possible that many people were stabbed?  Was he a sprinter or something?  HOW ABOUT RUNNING AWAY IDIOTS?

One of the college victims that did not run away fast enough...
[cdn.ebaumsworld.com image 497x575]


W. T. F.
 
  2013-04-09 03:11:36 PM
meddleRPI: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

Yeah, the victims are fine. They're traumatized physically and emotionally and suffering a great of pain and will endure years of anguish, but hey, they're alive, which means they can continue making money for the government through taxation!


Shall we go ahead and ask the survivors if they would prefer to be dead?
 
  2013-04-09 03:11:48 PM
stonicus: MassAsster: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

harder to really get to the organs with X-acto anc but...
amazingly 14 people and not one of them could defend themselves against this attack...


/Never bring a knife to a gun fight...

Well, it doesn't say how many he tried to attack, just how many he actually hurt.  He may have tried to stab 400 people and only succeeded 14 times for all we know.


Ok, so we will go with the random statistic of 1 out of 15 people can defend themselves from a X-acto attack..

/Thank god he didn't have fresh fruit
//oblig?
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:12 PM
i.dailymail.co.uk
Allegedly this guy tackled him and the guy yelled "I give up. I give up."
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:15 PM
meddleRPI: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

Yeah, the victims are fine. They're traumatized physically and emotionally and suffering a great of pain and will endure years of anguish, but hey, they're alive, which means they can continue making money for the government through taxation!


And also have a family and life liberty and all that...oh yeah, boo taxes.
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:33 PM
FatherChaos: Brought a knife to a massacre.  Results: 14 people hurt,4 badly enough to need Life-Flight, 2 in critical condition. 

FTFY, I'm sue that you were trying to be as accurate as possible.
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:41 PM
According to this, it's 14 people injured by an exacto knife. A friggin' exacto knife.
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:41 PM
TimonC346: Bravo Two: TimonC346: Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

I know. This drives me nuts--if you ramp up the weapon just a little bit--say, to a tank--and ask, should we allow people who are clinically insane operate tanks?

The level of damage the object can inflict is important in these issues. I'm less worried about a psychopath with a wad of newspaper than I am of one with an assault rife. Stop playing the "it's only the psychopath" card. That argument is horrible.

A recognized class of mental illness drives individuals to be violent, with whatever means they can get ahold of.
People who wish to commit crimes will use whatever means are expedient to their ends.

Why is it so hard to understand that while you may reduce the body count by restricting the objects USED, you'll reduce the actual incidents of crime by seeking to stop the individual, and thus effort made to resolve the issues of people are of greater import than attempts to pass laws that do little to affect the types of changes you're arguing we need them for?

I don't think no one should have the right--I think arseholes like the NRA need to man up and admit that background checks don't violate the second amendment.


No, background checks don't violate the 2nd Amendment. Attempting to pass federal law to regulate in-state commerce which clearly violates the constitution and the commerce clause is.

I would almost guarantee you that if the NRA said "WE support background checks as long as they don't include mandatory registration or submission of records to federal agencies", people would find some other reason to biatch.

/I support background checks as long as that doesn't involve mandatory registration, and doesn't add a burden of making me use an FFL or pay some exorbitant sum to sell my private property...
 
  2013-04-09 03:12:47 PM
man metaphysical: Maybe these pussies should learn some self defence instead of clamoring to carry a gun which they would probably end up shooting innocent people with when they try to be a hero

But surely the bad guy will have a special marking to make him stand out in a crowd, just like in video games. That way when everyone takes out a gun and starts shooting there will be no ambiguity about who to shoot at.
 
  2013-04-09 03:13:03 PM
 A stern letter to Texas schools and post a stab free zone sign.

t.qkme.me
 
  2013-04-09 03:13:40 PM
IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Red Shirt Blues: Isn't this the same college there was a thread on when there was a shooting? About a year ago? Anyone?

http://www.fark.com/comments/7690633/83515151#c83515151


My bad.
 
  2013-04-09 03:13:43 PM
tricycleracer: Photo of suspect:

[static.guim.co.uk image 460x276]


If dude trips and falls, he's kinda f*cked.

/moving to Houston on Thursday so not getting a kick...
 
  2013-04-09 03:14:26 PM
Rapmaster2000: I personally carry at all times a butterfly knife

To defend yourself against butterflies?
 
  2013-04-09 03:14:33 PM
Bravo Two: Publikwerks: Mikey1969: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

More killed by knives than all rifles, smei-auto, "assault", etc. Included...

Rifles: 323
Edged weapons: 1,694

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

But hey, believe what you want, I guess. You've obviously been on 'selective filter' mode, anyway.

Lets add a third category there:

Rifles:                       323
Edged weapons:      1,694
Handguns                        7,398

So, you must obviously not have any issue with a handgun ban then?

Now subtract roughly 60% of that number which are suicides...


Noooooooo, those are all homicides
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
 
  2013-04-09 03:14:33 PM
Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

Because advocating personal and social accountability has no place in America.It is best to depend on government to lead us... even if the government does not have our well being in mind.
 
  2013-04-09 03:15:04 PM
Red Shirt Blues: IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Red Shirt Blues: Isn't this the same college there was a thread on when there was a shooting? About a year ago? Anyone?

http://www.fark.com/comments/7690633/83515151#c83515151

My bad.


No worries :)
 
  2013-04-09 03:15:14 PM
Mikey1969: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

More killed by knives than all rifles, smei-auto, "assault", etc. Included...

Rifles: 323
Edged weapons: 1,694

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

But hey, believe what you want, I guess. You've obviously been on 'selective filter' mode, anyway.


Shifting the goal posts. It's not a matter of what weapons are used in the most crimes. It's a matter of what weapons are used in the crimes that people lose their shiat over, which are mass shootings by loonies. And rifles are really a lot more useful for that, especially rifles that you can shoot really quickly.

Personally, I'm against assault weapons bans, because there's no way to really effectively ban them, just window-dressing laws about how new guns can be manufactured and sold. Without total confiscation, there are plenty of high-capacity mags and semi-auto rifles to shoot them in, and there's no way we're ever going to get to confiscation in this country.

You don't have to be in favor of assault weapons bans, though, to be annoyed by the blatant lying by their defenders. Face it, idiots want .223 ARs so that they can pretend to be ready for guerilla warfare, and their proliferation makes the lone nut gunman that seems increasingly prevalent a bit more dangerous. There are much better guns for hunting and target shooting. Admit that it's a toy that you don't want taken away because you like your toy, and quit claiming there's any compelling reason for people to own semi-auto versions of military rifles, chambered in a varmint cartridge.
 
  2013-04-09 03:15:25 PM
This wouldn't have happened in a knife free zone...
 
  2013-04-09 03:16:18 PM
I've read there was a second suspect on only one site. Also that two girls got slashed in the cheek and someone in the neck.
 
  2013-04-09 03:16:37 PM
OMG, I hope it's already been said to you farkin' morons, but we have banned certain types of knives already!  For example, butterfly, switch blade, etc.

Also, was this written by a Texan?!

...and was armed with a knife similar to an exacto knife, that may be used in animal dissections.

That would be called a farkin' SCALPEL you dumbasses!!  An Exacto knife would be used when you build a NASCAR plastic model in your basement.

We aren't going to ban either of those because they have specific uses of which a weapon is way down on the list.  Same thing with kitchen and table knives.
 
  2013-04-09 03:16:56 PM
stonicus: MassAsster: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

harder to really get to the organs with an X-Acto but...
amazingly 14 people and not one of them could defend themselves against this attack...


/Never bring a knife to a gun fight...

Well, it doesn't say how many he tried to attack, just how many he actually hurt.  He may have tried to stab 400 people and only succeeded 14 times for all we know.


Jesus, wouldn't THAT be a total failure on the part of campus security, if the dude wandered around for a few hours doing this, and nobody managed to stop it? I hope for these peoples' sakes that it was some kind of fast assault, or I'd be suing the fark out of the school.
 
  2013-04-09 03:17:01 PM
This is Texas. Isn't everyone armed?
 
  2013-04-09 03:17:02 PM
TimonC346: Fissile: I'm guessing subby is being ironic, unfortunately, this is exactly the the kind of  "logic" employed by the NRA and Tea-Party types.  To wit, "People will kill each other with knives, hammers, chainsaws or beanbag chairs, so there's no reason to ban guns."

I know. This drives me nuts--if you ramp up the weapon just a little bit--say, to a tank--and ask, should we allow people who are clinically insane operate tanks?

The level of damage the object can inflict is important in these issues. I'm less worried about a psychopath with a wad of newspaper than I am of one with an assault rife. Stop playing the "it's only the psychopath" card. That argument is horrible.


He was a nut case who carried a stuffed monkey around. Current background checks worked and he couldn't buy a gun.
 
  2013-04-09 03:17:22 PM
Stig2112: A friend of mine works at that college.  I sent her a txt but haven't heard back from her yet.

You should take another stab at it and send her another text...
 
  2013-04-09 03:17:46 PM
Bravo Two: Publikwerks: Mikey1969: mbillips: Weird, nobody was killed? I thought it was just as easy to go on a murderous rampage with a knife or baseball bat as with a semi-automatic .223 rifle.

More killed by knives than all rifles, smei-auto, "assault", etc. Included...

Rifles: 323
Edged weapons: 1,694

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in- th e-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

But hey, believe what you want, I guess. You've obviously been on 'selective filter' mode, anyway.

Lets add a third category there:

Rifles:                       323
Edged weapons:      1,694
Handguns                        7,398

So, you must obviously not have any issue with a handgun ban then?

Now subtract roughly 60% of that number which are suicides...


No, those are homicide numbers. About 15,000 people commit suicide each year with guns.
 
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