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(Talking Points Memo)   Mitch McConnell is convinced Woodward and Bernstein are spying on him   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 163
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2013-04-09 01:23:26 PM
Classic IOKIYAR at work here.
 
2013-04-09 01:47:28 PM
It's just these two guys:

fashionablygeek.com

/Dem lousy toitles.
 
2013-04-09 02:58:24 PM
Well, to be fair, Mitch McConnell is a f*cking idiot.
 
2013-04-09 03:30:39 PM
Silly McConnell; what is more likely?

That the Democrats bugged your office?  Or that one of your staffers thinks you're a dick and did this?
 
2013-04-09 03:32:45 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Silly McConnell; what is more likely?

That the Democrats bugged your office?  Or that one of your staffers thinks you're a dick and did this?


So much THIS^
 
2013-04-09 03:32:56 PM
 
2013-04-09 03:33:42 PM
we've always said the Left will stop at nothing to attack Sen. McConnell, but Watergate-style tactics to bug campaign headquarters is above and beyond.

Umm...the left were the ones who bugged a campaign headquarters at the Watergate Hotel?  When did I slide into another Universe?  Also are nerds the equivalent of jocks in this reality?
 
2013-04-09 03:35:09 PM
Were there any women in the meeting?

Were there any blacks in the meeting?

Were there any gays in the meeting?

Were there any gay black women in the meeting?

This is important.
 
2013-04-09 03:36:17 PM
I'm a little more concerned about the Minnesota delegation competing over a hot dish, story on the right side.
 
2013-04-09 03:36:33 PM
It runs strong in DC

www.marchasco.com
 
2013-04-09 03:38:05 PM
Yes, clearly this is the part of the story that should be an outrage.


/Goddammit, I wish I lived in a smarter state than Kentucky.
 
2013-04-09 03:43:38 PM
Hah, someone from your own team sold you out. Remember, there are no friends in politics.
 
2013-04-09 03:45:40 PM
Clearly when caught discussing the use of mental health issues as part of a political campaign it's best to remind everyone about Watergate.
 
2013-04-09 03:48:47 PM
talkingpointsmemo.com

"I am NOT a turtle!"
 
2013-04-09 03:55:21 PM
 
2013-04-09 04:06:43 PM
Posted this in the other, now dead thread...

In 1986, just before a crucial debate in campaign, Rove claimed that his office had been bugged by Democrats. The police and FBI investigated and discovered that the bug's battery was so small that it needed to be changed every few hours, and the investigation was dropped. Critics, including other Republican operatives, suspected Rove had bugged his own office to garner sympathy votes in the close governor's race.

Yep. Well looky here:

"We've always said the Left would stop at nothing to attack Sen. McConnell, but Watergate-style tactics to bug campaign headquarters are above and beyond," Benton said in a statement Tuesday.

They already know it was "the left", I guess the FBI isn't needed anymore.
 
2013-04-09 04:06:45 PM

SN1987a goes boom: we've always said the Left will stop at nothing to attack Sen. McConnell, but Watergate-style tactics to bug campaign headquarters is above and beyond.

Umm...the left were the ones who bugged a campaign headquarters at the Watergate Hotel?  When did I slide into another Universe?  Also are nerds the equivalent of jocks in this reality?


Not to mention that going after someone's mental health is something that Nixon's goons actually did.
 
2013-04-09 04:08:24 PM
Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.
 
2013-04-09 04:09:40 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.


how you suffer. so sad
 
2013-04-09 04:12:03 PM
So when should we expect the FBI the issue an arrest warrant for "The Left"?
 
2013-04-09 04:13:13 PM
Seriously?  A thread with 100 comments goes red?
 
2013-04-09 04:13:23 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.


Sometimes, there's a troll so mind-blowingly inane that you can't but help feel bad for the poor little guy. At least he's trying!
 
2013-04-09 04:13:57 PM
Ol' Mitch is sounding pretty nervous about the election.
 
2013-04-09 04:15:07 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.


Congratulations you have utterly defeated the imaginary point that lives only in your own head. What more fitting challenge will you move on to next? Perhaps fashion a helmet from unicorn horn, or discover Atlantis.
 
2013-04-09 04:15:14 PM

phritz: JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.

Sometimes, there's a troll so mind-blowingly inane that you can't but help feel bad for the poor little guy. At least he's trying!


Um, feel free to point out anything that isn't a fact.

/Still remember Ted Kennedy being asked about the Newt thing, why that was OK when the server thing wasn't.  He was NOT a happy senator.
 
2013-04-09 04:15:47 PM
C/P from other thread: It's amazing to see all the "a Democrat wire-tapped a sitting Senator, and suddenly he's the bad guy?!" comments floating around the web. The recording wasn't a conference call between him and his campaign manager. It was a team meeting with his campaign workers, and several dozen people were present. Sounds less like a bug problem than him having a mole on his hands. Don't worry though: I've already been assured that the FBI are Obama's personal police force, so if they say no bugs are found we'll know for sure Obama just committed the next Watergate.Also: by politicial smear job standards, going after someone's mental health just seems boring these days. Imagine if he planned something really offensive.Also, clarification since it was in question in the other thread: according to Mother Jones the recording happened at McConnell's campaign headquarters in Louisville, KY. This was not a conversation between McConnell and his advisors but rather McConnell and his advisors addressing several dozen campaign staffers on their plan of attack should Judd enter the race.
 
2013-04-09 04:16:59 PM
But the Federal Government wiretapping the American people with full collusion with telecommunications companies is still totally fine.
 
2013-04-09 04:18:18 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Ol' Mitch is sounding pretty nervous about the election.


No kidding. An aide tried to feed him a piece of lettuce and Mitch snapped at him!
 
2013-04-09 04:18:43 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Seriously?  A thread with 100 comments goes red?


Yeah. Nice job.
 
2013-04-09 04:18:56 PM

Aarontology: But the Federal Government wiretapping the American people with full collusion with telecommunications companies is still totally fine.


I seem to remember Mitch's party taking a stance of "Well, if you ain't got nothin' to hide..." regarding wiretaps. Whatever could have happened to have changed Mitch's mind? Must be all those "libertarians" in the Republican Party now.
 
2013-04-09 04:19:14 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Um, feel free to point out anything that isn't a fact.

/Still remember Ted Kennedy being asked about the Newt thing, why that was OK when the server thing wasn't.  He was NOT a happy senator.


That's the spirit! *toussles hair*
 
2013-04-09 04:25:18 PM
You are a major party leader in the Senate. everything you say and do is being recorded by at least 1 person at all times. Act accordingly, you dickhead
 
2013-04-09 04:25:22 PM
Perhaps because staffers don't normally do opposition research at the level and it's farmed out to consultants and normally consultants are in the room or on the phone when you hand them the info. It could also be the ad guys going over the oppo with the staffers.  In reality it is most likely a consultant that has a close personal experience with mental illness and was appalled at their plan if Judd had run.
 
2013-04-09 04:26:29 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2013/04/09/mitch-mcc o nnell-versus-mother-jones/?hpid=z2

Apparently McConnell could be in some difficulty if he's made an unsubstantiated allegation.

/also, it's rich to hear a Republican complain about Watergate-style tactics
//also, I can see the Watergate from my office.  It's an ugly building, people.
 
2013-04-09 04:27:41 PM
An exchange from The Thread Which Shall Not Be Named (my words in normal, others' in italics)

-that's pretty low

-It is, but it's something I would expect both parties to at least discuss.


Discuss? Yes.

However (and I haven't heard the tape), if the suggestion isn't met with choruses of "NO!" or "Off limits" or even a sarcastic "Who do you think we are, liberals?", they don't get a pass. Does the tape cut off after the question is asked; can we hear responses or follow-ups on the recording that suggest they're actually entertaining the idea?


-No...  in fact, they mock her.
 
2013-04-09 04:28:00 PM
James O'Keefe called into consult?
 
2013-04-09 04:28:14 PM
Friggin' turtles with invisible tape recorders on their backs.

www.thedailygreen.com
 
2013-04-09 04:28:52 PM
The use of "The left" as a scapegoat here is a little---propaganda sounding?
 
2013-04-09 04:29:39 PM
I think the bartender secretly recorded it on his cell phone.
 
2013-04-09 04:30:40 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.


Multiple federal signals interception laws? Gingrich was talking on an unencrypted analog signal, and the people listening were in their own basement, listening to a police scanner. There's nothing whatsoever illegal about that. Only people too inept to understand the technology thought it was illegal.
 
2013-04-09 04:34:40 PM
Right now there is a Tea party patriot who infiltrated Mitch's staff and is getting a new cell phoe to cover his tracks because some nerd at Apple or samsung can probably tell you what type of cell phone recorded Mitch's whack a mole meeting.
 
2013-04-09 04:35:02 PM
www.movieactors.com

Yes, but was it "penny ante" Woodward & Bernstein?
 
2013-04-09 04:35:04 PM

TimonC346: The use of "The left" as a scapegoat here is a little---propaganda sounding?


Someone fell asleep in PR Basics 101...
 
2013-04-09 04:37:48 PM

JohnAnnArbor: /Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!


No.
 
2013-04-09 04:41:50 PM

JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.


Stop stealing from Free Republic.
 
2013-04-09 04:42:01 PM
McConnell knows he's farked.  Isn't one of the major goals of the Teabaggers to replace him with someone who is more obstructionist, along with the ineffectual Boehner?

If anything, the mysterious (and somehow all-powerful) 'Left' isn't as suspicious as the Tea Party, who has been struggling to survive and dominate 'their' party?  Really?
 
2013-04-09 04:44:39 PM

leviosaurus: JohnAnnArbor: Remember, wiretapping is OK against Republicans.  Publicly recording Democrats is not.

Make a note of it.

/Remember the uproar over the time the Democrats failed to put a password on their Congressional server and a few Republicans looked around it?  The republic was in jeopardy!
//But when a guy violated multiple federal signals-interception laws to record a Newt Gingrich cell phone call, that was perfectly OK with Democrats.

Multiple federal signals interception laws? Gingrich was talking on an unencrypted analog signal, and the people listening were in their own basement, listening to a police scanner. There's nothing whatsoever illegal about that. Only people too inept to understand the technology thought it was illegal.


It was illegal. No matter how easily they happened upon the data, eavesdropping is a no-no and recording/coping messages you are not an intended recepient of is even worse. We should disapprove of both the events he mentioned, even if they were both carried out easily and were preventable.

It's like with the Sarah Palin e-mails back in 2008: what the kid did was illegal, but to call it hacking is laughable.
 
2013-04-09 04:46:12 PM

Wow, these guys really are the unlettered Ignorant hicks they pretend to be aren't they?
"
He played another recording of Judd:


I still choose the God of my understanding as the God of my childhood. I have to expand my God concept from time to time, and you know particularly I enjoy native faith practices, and have a very nature-based God concept. I'd like to think I'm like St. Francis in that way. Brother Donkey, Sister Bird.

Laughter erupted again, with one guy in the meeting exclaiming, "Brother Donkey, Sister Bird!" The group didn't seem to realize that Judd was referring to <a Href=http://catholicismpure.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/st-francisus-and- the-d onkey/" target=_blank jQuery1365540166781="47">well-known stories about St. Francis, who once preached a sermon to birds-"my little sisters"-and who referred to his own body as the "Brother Donkey." (In her book, Judd identifies herself as a Christian and often refers to church and prayer.)

With his comrades laughing about Judd's reference to donkeys and birds, the chief presenter remarked, "That's my favorite line so far. Absolute favorite one so far."
 
2013-04-09 04:48:11 PM

Magorn: Wow, these guys really are the unlettered Ignorant hicks they pretend to be aren't they?
"
He played another recording of Judd:


I still choose the God of my understanding as the God of my childhood. I have to expand my God concept from time to time, and you know particularly I enjoy native faith practices, and have a very nature-based God concept. I'd like to think I'm like St. Francis in that way. Brother Donkey, Sister Bird.

Laughter erupted again, with one guy in the meeting exclaiming, "Brother Donkey, Sister Bird!" The group didn't seem to realize that Judd was referring to <a Href=http://catholicismpure.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/st-francisus-and- the-d onkey/" target=_blank jQuery1365540166781="47">well-known stories about St. Francis, who once preached a sermon to birds-"my little sisters"-and who referred to his own body as the "Brother Donkey." (In her book, Judd identifies herself as a Christian and often refers to church and prayer.)

With his comrades laughing about Judd's reference to donkeys and birds, the chief presenter remarked, "That's my favorite line so far. Absolute favorite one so far."


Yeah, but this is Kentucky, so St. Francis is Papist scum , not a Christian.
 
2013-04-09 04:52:03 PM

Magorn: Wow, these guys really are the unlettered Ignorant hicks they pretend to be aren't they?
"
He played another recording of Judd:


I still choose the God of my understanding as the God of my childhood. I have to expand my God concept from time to time, and you know particularly I enjoy native faith practices, and have a very nature-based God concept. I'd like to think I'm like St. Francis in that way. Brother Donkey, Sister Bird.

Laughter erupted again, with one guy in the meeting exclaiming, "Brother Donkey, Sister Bird!" The group didn't seem to realize that Judd was referring to <a Href=http://catholicismpure.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/st-francisus-and- the-d onkey/" target=_blank jQuery1365540166781="47">well-known stories about St. Francis, who once preached a sermon to birds-"my little sisters"-and who referred to his own body as the "Brother Donkey." (In her book, Judd identifies herself as a Christian and often refers to church and prayer.)

With his comrades laughing about Judd's reference to donkeys and birds, the chief presenter remarked, "That's my favorite line so far. Absolute favorite one so far."


No one can be expected to know that. It's not like there's been anything about Francis in the news recently.
 
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