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(CNN)   SHODAN: scariest search on the internet   (money.cnn.com) divider line 72
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2013-04-09 01:46:05 PM
The good news is that Shodan is almost exclusively used for good.

Until someone pays to have the ethical constraints removed.
 
2013-04-09 01:49:53 PM
THE POLITO FORM IS DEAD, INSECT.
 
2013-04-09 01:52:14 PM
So I can hack in to a web-enabled refrigerator and start spitting out ice cubes all over the floor?  How much fun would searching this site...
 
2013-04-09 01:54:00 PM
Oh for farks sake, now everyone will know about it and poor John is going to have to deal with hordes of dweebs spamming him for free accounts and free shiat and the guy pays for his servers out of pocket. CNN probably just cost him $4000 in transit this month for overages.

WTG, assholes.  Also, not for nothing, but Google SUCKS at search. Its is TERRIBLE at finding stuff. What Google is good at is knowing what you what to see, no matter what you think that is. Google is a popular content aggregator more than a search engine.

Everybody should know this. There is much, much better technology out there.
 
2013-04-09 01:54:21 PM
Great...write an article letting people know where they can go to find major vulnerabilities to a great many things.

/f'in stupid
 
2013-04-09 01:56:41 PM
People pay consultants to sell them a dream on a dime when reality of protecting equipment is that security costs, News at 11
 
2013-04-09 01:57:53 PM
Hmm, looks like he's making a go of it as a business, good for him. I remember it from the sutri.com days, it's as much fun as you can have at a keyboard. Looks like he was ready to take it public. He's going to get bought out in pretty short order, mark my words. might even be beach house money.
 
2013-04-09 01:58:13 PM
L-l-look at you, hacker. A p-p-pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you r-run through my corridors-s. H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?
 
2013-04-09 01:58:31 PM
Hi, this is Jiang at the People's Liberation Army Infowar Battalion #118 Freedom Project, we're looking for a list of other freedom projects in China.

Yeah, sure...here ya go!
 
2013-04-09 01:58:32 PM
This was quite a shock to my system.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:13 PM
The real question comes down to "why is it connected to the internet?" on a lot of that stuff.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:17 PM
Tentler's Shodan talk has been on youtube for ages and is incredibly interesting.
 
2013-04-09 02:01:17 PM
FTA:

Related story: Hackers take aim at key U.S. infrastructure

quick search for "default password" reveals countless printers, servers and system control devices that use "admin" as their user name and "1234" as their password. ...

screeninvasion.com
 
2013-04-09 02:03:18 PM

willfullyobscure: Oh for farks sake, now everyone will know about it and poor John is going to have to deal with hordes of dweebs spamming him for free accounts and free shiat and the guy pays for his servers out of pocket. CNN probably just cost him $4000 in transit this month for overages.


1. Have unique webservice, get contacted by media wanting to do a story
2. Ask to be notified prior to publication, put up pageview based ads on homepage prior to pub date
3. Profit
4. (optional) Wait for buzz to die down and traffic return to normal, remove ads
 
2013-04-09 02:08:15 PM

wildcardjack: The real question comes down to "why is it connected to the internet?" on a lot of that stuff.


Because finance officers are dumb idiotic jack wagons and make stupid decisions so when IT goes back to admin and tells them that finance said no because of the cost, admin tells IT to just get it done with whatever you can and when IT raises the security issue they are often ignored.
 
2013-04-09 02:08:21 PM
SHODAN?  This does not bode well.

media.ignimgs.com
 
2013-04-09 02:11:31 PM
When people don't see stuff on Google, they think no one can find it. That's not true.

Who has trouble finding things on Google?
 
2013-04-09 02:12:43 PM
I submit a GIS of "Harlequin baby". Everyone already ate, right?
 
2013-04-09 02:18:53 PM

wildcardjack: The real question comes down to "why is it connected to the internet?" on a lot of that stuff.


winrar is you.

"Its not an exploitable weakness. We're air gapped"


PULL THE OYTHRE WONNE, IT HATH GOTTE BELLES ON
 
2013-04-09 02:20:03 PM
Failed to detect anything at either of our IPs.  Guess that means I'm doing my job.
 
2013-04-09 02:21:21 PM

Honest Bender: When people don't see stuff on Google, they think no one can find it. That's not true.

Who has trouble finding things on Google?


Google is a terrible, terrible search engine. Its a popularity aggregator, not a real search engine anymore. They spend 90% of development over there at tuning the results predictors, not improving quality of the data. try Lexis-Nexis for one day and you will hate Google with the fire of a thousand suns.
 
2013-04-09 02:23:24 PM

SkylineRecords: I submit a GIS of "Harlequin baby". Everyone already ate, right?


Why do I fall for this shiat?  WHY!?!?!?!
 
2013-04-09 02:24:36 PM
Man I thought it would be some weird Japanese porn.
 
2013-04-09 02:25:06 PM

willfullyobscure: Oh for farks sake, now everyone will know about it and poor John is going to have to deal with hordes of dweebs spamming him for free accounts and free shiat and the guy pays for his servers out of pocket. CNN probably just cost him $4000 in transit this month for overages.

WTG, assholes.  Also, not for nothing, but Google SUCKS at search. Its is TERRIBLE at finding stuff. What Google is good at is knowing what you what to see, no matter what you think that is. Google is a popular content aggregator more than a search engine.

Everybody should know this. There is much, much better technology out there.


Links please
 
2013-04-09 02:27:33 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com

That's what I thought of.
 
2013-04-09 02:42:23 PM

willfullyobscure: Honest Bender: When people don't see stuff on Google, they think no one can find it. That's not true.

Who has trouble finding things on Google?

Google is a terrible, terrible search engine. Its a popularity aggregator, not a real search engine anymore. They spend 90% of development over there at tuning the results predictors, not improving quality of the data. try Lexis-Nexis for one day and you will hate Google with the fire of a thousand suns.


If you say so, man. I've used lexis-nexis a bunch in college. I wasn't really impressed.  Can you give me an example of something you searched for and had trouble finding?  Because it rarely takes me longer than 10 seconds to find what I'm looking for.
 
2013-04-09 02:51:07 PM

willfullyobscure: Also, not for nothing, but Google SUCKS at search. Its is TERRIBLE at finding stuff. What Google is good at is knowing what you what to see, no matter what you think that is. Google is a popular content aggregator more than a search engine.

Everybody should know this. There is much, much better technology out there.


Alternatives?
 
2013-04-09 02:54:26 PM

wildcardjack: The real question comes down to "why is it connected to the internet?" on a lot of that stuff.


Sorry, I don't get the drama around having an "always on" refrigerator.  Every device now is "always on".  That's the world we live in.
#dealwithit
 
2013-04-09 02:57:13 PM
noobs
 
2013-04-09 02:57:27 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: That's what I thought of.


Despite the slight name difference, my first thought was...

"Greetings, starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the Frontier against Xur and the Ko-dan Armada."
 
2013-04-09 02:58:54 PM

ferretman: Great...write an article letting people know where they can go to find major vulnerabilities to a great many things.


Yes, because keeping people ignorant is a great way to provide security.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:07 PM

SkylineRecords: I submit a GIS of "Harlequin baby". Everyone already ate, right?


Yeah, not gonna do it.
 
2013-04-09 03:15:38 PM

t3knomanser: ferretman: Great...write an article letting people know where they can go to find major vulnerabilities to a great many things.

Yes, because keeping people ignorant is a great way to provide security.


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

We want them to always be caught with heads up asses.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:04 PM

Ego edo infantia cattus: FTA:

Related story: Hackers take aim at key U.S. infrastructure

quick search for "default password" reveals countless printers, servers and system control devices that use "admin" as their user name and "1234" as their password. ...


Don't forget root / calvin!
 
2013-04-09 03:29:40 PM
Has anyone yet referenced the System Shock series?
 
2013-04-09 03:46:33 PM

Dimensio: Has anyone yet referenced the System Shock series?


airsupport beat you to it. Scariest game ever. Perfect name for this.
 
2013-04-09 04:10:44 PM

Inigo: The good news is that Shodan is almost exclusively used for good.

Until someone pays to have the ethical constraints removed.


Cubicle Jockey: L-l-look at you, hacker. A p-p-pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you r-run through my corridors-s. H-h-how can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?


I love you guys
 
2013-04-09 04:12:11 PM
lexis nexis is a buisness search engine, a diffrent animal than google
 
2013-04-09 04:16:00 PM
SHODAN - SHONUFF!
 
2013-04-09 04:18:19 PM

omgrtfa: Everybody should know this. There is much, much better technology out there.

Links please



His search engine is from Canada, you wouldn't know her.
 
2013-04-09 04:26:42 PM

nekom: Failed to detect anything at either of our IPs.  Guess that means I'm doing my job.


How many proxies are you behind?
 
2013-04-09 04:27:28 PM
Oh they found ways to get to command and control centers of nuclear power plants? Thanks for putting that out there im sure no one nefarious will find out about it now.
 
2013-04-09 04:37:26 PM

Alebak: Oh they found ways to get to command and control centers of nuclear power plants? Thanks for putting that out there im sure no one nefarious will find out about it now.


Take comfort from the fact that those with the will to cause mischief already had the knowledge.
 
2013-04-09 04:41:10 PM

SkylineRecords: I submit a GIS of "Harlequin baby". Everyone already ate, right?

 
2013-04-09 04:41:51 PM
i162.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-09 04:47:56 PM

Arkanaut: nekom: Failed to detect anything at either of our IPs.  Guess that means I'm doing my job.

How many proxies are you behind?


haha none, but SonicWall makes a pretty good product. Not the highest end stuff on the market, but for a small business with 2 locations and 2 or 3 dozen computers and other machines at each of them, works quite nicely. It does help that we're a manufacturing company, not an IT firm of any sort, so our needs for any incoming traffic at all are relatively limited.
 
2013-04-09 05:20:36 PM

nekom: Arkanaut: nekom: Failed to detect anything at either of our IPs.  Guess that means I'm doing my job.

How many proxies are you behind?

haha none, but SonicWall makes a pretty good product. Not the highest end stuff on the market, but for a small business with 2 locations and 2 or 3 dozen computers and other machines at each of them, works quite nicely. It does help that we're a manufacturing company, not an IT firm of any sort, so our needs for any incoming traffic at all are relatively limited.


I'm sorry but SonicWall firewalls are garbage.  They love to rewrite packets and cause disruption to legit traffic like SIP for absolutely no gain.  They also frequently stop passing traffic until rebooted.    If you are looking for lower end models that have solid functionality I recommend Fortigates.  Easy to use and very useful.  I also like their VDOM functionality but that's likely not something the averagecommercial environment would use.  But reliable as all hell.  One of the one's I manage has been running for 3+ years with no down time or issues.
 
2013-04-09 05:29:29 PM

ferretman: Great...write an article letting people know where they can go to find major vulnerabilities to a great many things.

/f'in stupid


Great, no really, great.

The problem is not that this site documents vulnerabilities, the problem is that there ARE vulnerabilities. Easily fixed ones. Ones where it's not a question of how but when will it be breached.

/F'ing providing the motivation to secure them as they should have been in the first place.
 
2013-04-09 05:46:50 PM

Precision Boobery: wildcardjack: The real question comes down to "why is it connected to the internet?" on a lot of that stuff.

Sorry, I don't get the drama around having an "always on" refrigerator.  Every device now is "always on".  That's the world we live in.
#dealwithit


Wait until your fridge starts ordering Tuscan Milk every other day, or instragrams every time you open the door, and post to your facebook wall that you drank right from the bottle.  Do you want your mom to see pics of you in your boxers at 2 a.m., staring into your fridge whilst considering if you want apples or the moldy mystery meat to go with your beer?

Seriously though, how much lag will it create with a network, having every single device in your house online simultaneously?  And since some ISPs cap your usage, how significant will your appliances' usage be?  We have the capability of making everything always on, but why would we want them to be?
 
2013-04-09 05:48:41 PM

Arkanaut: nekom: Failed to detect anything at either of our IPs.  Guess that means I'm doing my job.

How many proxies are you behind?


what would I ask to look for if i was trying to find problems with my stuff?

/ i'm still like steve martin in the jerk before the phone book with his name in it comes out.
 
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