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(Fox News)   Mitch McConnell was caught on tape conspiring ways to smear Ashley Judd's character, so naturally he's issued a heartfelt apology. Just kidding, he's called in the FBI to find out who would dare use his own words against him   (foxnews.com) divider line 102
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2013-04-09 12:45:53 PM
Just remember this folks.

He has no problem with the government spying on you in the name of the war on terror.
 
2013-04-09 12:47:47 PM
crooksandliars.com
 
2013-04-09 12:49:46 PM
He did that in public anyway
 
2013-04-09 12:58:16 PM
spydersden.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-09 12:59:09 PM
And it worked.  She chickened out in a race she would win hands down.  If they were smashing her like this even before she announced, he must have been terrified of her.
 
2013-04-09 01:08:52 PM
Ok, let me see if I can make this simple.

It was a strategy meeting discussing how they are gonna defeat her if she ran.

Political parties have these kinds of meetings all the time.

Using these tactics isnt illegal or unethical.

And they are trying to find out who leaked it because they have someone who released their confidential meeting. Looking for an employee for espionage isnt wrong.
 
2013-04-09 01:09:13 PM
So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.
 
2013-04-09 01:13:20 PM
So McConnell is a low life political opportunist who wouldn't hesitate to attack his opponents on a personal level?

Well, knock me over with a feather
 
2013-04-09 01:45:13 PM
I'm glad he's taking a stand for this. Republicans have a proud history of not recording other people for political reasons.
 
2013-04-09 01:47:45 PM
Why would he apologize (other than in general, for existing)?  It didn't sound like he was plotting her assassination or anything.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:15 PM
UPDATE: Mother Jones sends over a statement asserting that it did not make the tape. From the statement:

As the story makes clear, we were recently provided the tape by a source who wished to remain anonymous. We were not involved in the making of the tape, but we published a story on the tape due to its obvious newsworthiness. It is our understanding that the tape was not the product of a Watergate-style bugging operation. We cannot comment beyond that. Link
 
2013-04-09 02:03:24 PM
He's still smarting from that "one term president" thing, I see.
 
2013-04-09 02:04:28 PM
I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.
 
2013-04-09 02:10:19 PM

vernonFL: I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.


We don't know that it was a bug. If a political opponent did manage to get a bug into McConnell's office, why waste the opportunity it provided with this relatively tame Judd tape? It was most likely a staffer.
 
2013-04-09 02:11:10 PM

cman: Ok, let me see if I can make this simple.

It was a strategy meeting discussing how they are gonna defeat her if she ran.

Political parties have these kinds of meetings all the time.

Using these tactics isnt illegal or unethical.

And they are trying to find out who leaked it because they have someone who released their confidential meeting. Looking for an employee for espionage isnt wrong.


This just in: politicians engage in politics.
 
2013-04-09 02:16:08 PM
So, in this potential political race someone chose to set up clandestine recording devices in Mitch McConnell's campaign HQ and *not* Ashley Judd's shower?
 
2013-04-09 02:20:41 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: So, in this potential political race someone chose to set up clandestine recording devices in Mitch McConnell's campaign HQ and *not* Ashley Judd's shower?


This country's priorities are all sorts of farked up.
 
2013-04-09 02:26:24 PM

vernonFL: I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.


I remember when threatening to destroy the national economy was out of bounds too but that was before blah.
 
2013-04-09 02:29:47 PM
It was probably somebody who was sitting in on the meeting and recorded it using their phone. If you are having a meeting were you are discussing something that you don't want to get out, before you start have everybody empty their pockets and bags and remove the batteries from any phone or other recording device they have.
 
2013-04-09 02:33:09 PM

cman: And they are trying to find out who leaked it because they have someone who released their confidential meeting. Looking for an employee for espionage isnt wrong.


I don't agree with Senator McConnell on politics but I'm not surprised that he's looking for a leak.  At least there's a procedure for that and it takes up time while this whole "character assassination" thing blows over.
 
2013-04-09 02:36:16 PM

vernonFL: I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.


Oh, I welcome an investigation.  Especially if it reveals that even members of his own staff think he's a dick.
 
2013-04-09 02:39:37 PM
Go get 'em Mitch!  Fight back!  Don't turtle!
 
2013-04-09 02:47:24 PM

Dusk-You-n-Me: vernonFL: I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.

We don't know that it was a bug. If a political opponent did manage to get a bug into McConnell's office, why waste the opportunity it provided with this relatively tame Judd tape? It was most likely a staffer.


Why would anyone use a "bug" in this day and age. Carry your cell phone into the meeting with an app recording the whole thing. Set the damn thing down in front of them with the screen turned off.
 
2013-04-09 02:55:37 PM

make me some tea: So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.


Probably. If it was a mole in his campaign who was a party to the conversation, depending on the state, possibly not. But that is unlikely.

Naturally, if this was an outside party who bugged his conference room, that is highly illegal.
 
2013-04-09 02:58:34 PM
Also, as much as I dislike McConnell, it is pretty silly to assume that there is anything unusual or untoward about a candidate for national office discussing underhanded ways to kick his opponent in the nards.
 
2013-04-09 02:59:31 PM

gilgigamesh: make me some tea: So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.

Probably. If it was a mole in his campaign who was a party to the conversation, depending on the state, possibly not. But that is unlikely.

Naturally, if this was an outside party who bugged his conference room, that is highly illegal.


Why do you think it is unlikely that it wasn't somebody that was a party to the conversation that recorded it? If you haven't noticed lately, but these Republicans have a bad habit of really pissing off the people that work for them.
 
2013-04-09 03:01:25 PM

ongbok: gilgigamesh: make me some tea: So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.

Probably. If it was a mole in his campaign who was a party to the conversation, depending on the state, possibly not. But that is unlikely.

Naturally, if this was an outside party who bugged his conference room, that is highly illegal.

Why do you think it is unlikely that it wasn't somebody that was a party to the conversation that recorded it? If you haven't noticed lately, but these Republicans have a bad habit of really pissing off the people that work for them.


Because I would assume that a strategy meeting of this sort would involve only the most trusted confidants.

It is certainly possible he was betrayed.
 
2013-04-09 03:02:29 PM

gilgigamesh: ongbok: gilgigamesh: make me some tea: So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.

Probably. If it was a mole in his campaign who was a party to the conversation, depending on the state, possibly not. But that is unlikely.

Naturally, if this was an outside party who bugged his conference room, that is highly illegal.

Why do you think it is unlikely that it wasn't somebody that was a party to the conversation that recorded it? If you haven't noticed lately, but these Republicans have a bad habit of really pissing off the people that work for them.

Because I would assume that a strategy meeting of this sort would involve only the most trusted confidants.

It is certainly possible he was betrayed.


You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.
 
2013-04-09 03:04:26 PM

gilgigamesh: ongbok: gilgigamesh: make me some tea: So it's illegal to secretly record strategy meetings now?

Ok then.

Probably. If it was a mole in his campaign who was a party to the conversation, depending on the state, possibly not. But that is unlikely.

Naturally, if this was an outside party who bugged his conference room, that is highly illegal.

Why do you think it is unlikely that it wasn't somebody that was a party to the conversation that recorded it? If you haven't noticed lately, but these Republicans have a bad habit of really pissing off the people that work for them.

Because I would assume that a strategy meeting of this sort would involve only the most trusted confidants.

It is certainly possible he was betrayed.


Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.
 
2013-04-09 03:05:05 PM

cman: Ok, let me see if I can make this simple.

It was a strategy meeting discussing how they are gonna defeat her if she ran.

Political parties have these kinds of meetings all the time.

Using these tactics isnt illegal or unethical.

And they are trying to find out who leaked it because they have someone who released their confidential meeting. Looking for an employee for espionage isnt wrong.


For once, I'm with you 100%

Not news: McConnell is a dick.  More of a dick than a typical pol?  Probably, but even if he's not he's still definitely a dick.

But if someone broke the law, they should be held accountable.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:17 PM

ongbok: It was probably somebody who was sitting in on the meeting and recorded it using their phone. If you are having a meeting were you are discussing something that you don't want to get out, before you start have everybody empty their pockets and bags and remove the batteries from any phone or other recording device they have.


If history is any precursor it was probably the person serving the drinks or some other waitperson.  I know that if I were in that position I would probably try the same thing...

/worked out rather well last time, if I recall.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:37 PM

ongbok: Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.


Bachman?  I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean...
 
2013-04-09 03:08:16 PM

dittybopper: ongbok: Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.

Bachman?  I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean...


Her stuff is probably like trying to fark two pieces of cardboard.
 
2013-04-09 03:08:32 PM

Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.


What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?
 
2013-04-09 03:10:51 PM

gilgigamesh: Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.

What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?


Didn't get paid. Got fired. McConnell insulted them. Those 3 right there are enough to piss somebody off enough to do this.
 
2013-04-09 03:11:08 PM

ongbok: dittybopper: ongbok: Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.

Bachman?  I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean...

Her stuff is probably like trying to fark two pieces of cardboard.


If the vagina dentata legend has any truth to it, you know that psycho biatch is packing teeth.
 
2013-04-09 03:11:19 PM

ongbok: Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.


Bachmann is out of her mind and is not fit for office. I can certainly see someone on her team having the scales fall from his eyes and knowing he had to let the world know.
 
2013-04-09 03:12:47 PM

ongbok: gilgigamesh: Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.

What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?

Didn't get paid. Got fired. McConnell insulted them. Those 3 right there are enough to piss somebody off enough to do this.


Yeah, well there are those possibilities and more. Maybe turtleboy farked someone's wife. Who knows? But those possibilities are not unique to republicans.
 
2013-04-09 03:13:02 PM

ongbok: It was probably somebody who was sitting in on the meeting and recorded it using their phone. If you are having a meeting were you are discussing something that you don't want to get out, before you start have everybody empty their pockets and bags and remove the batteries from any phone or other recording device they have.


fark it
make them all strip naked and cavity searches for everyone

it's the only way to be certain
oooooo and have your meetings at your house, where there is no possibility of a secret wiretap
 
2013-04-09 03:14:09 PM

ongbok: dittybopper: ongbok: Yeah look at Bachman. Her farking campaign manager turned on her.

Bachman?  I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean...

Her stuff is probably like trying to fark two pieces of cardboard.


You know who else likes to fark cardboard?

latimesblogs.latimes.com

Barack Obama's speech writers.

/NTTAWWT
 
2013-04-09 03:19:50 PM

namatad: ongbok: It was probably somebody who was sitting in on the meeting and recorded it using their phone. If you are having a meeting were you are discussing something that you don't want to get out, before you start have everybody empty their pockets and bags and remove the batteries from any phone or other recording device they have.

fark it
make them all strip naked and cavity searches for everyone

it's the only way to be certain
oooooo and have your meetings at your house, where there is no possibility of a secret wiretap


This GOP had the body-cavity searches AND the in-home "meetings" but still farked it up http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2010/11/bruce_barclay_form e r_cumberlan.html
 
2013-04-09 03:20:45 PM

vernonFL: I hate to side with McConnell, but bugging offices IS out of bounds and illegal.


hisvorpal.files.wordpress.com

"Say what?"
 
2013-04-09 03:21:50 PM
You know, Romney also had a run in with this kind of thing. You'd think they would learn to bite their tongues. There is NO such thing as a private speech. I don't care if you're at a $50,000/plate dinner or in a staff meeting. Don't be an asshole and you'll have nothing to worry about. Crying to the FBI just makes you look like a foolish child.
 
2013-04-09 03:23:26 PM

gilgigamesh: Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.

What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?


I have absolutely no idea; however, there are innumerable reasons people do this sort of thing. There's a reason all the industrial espionage operations go after 'disgruntled employee'
 
2013-04-09 03:24:54 PM

Tigger: gilgigamesh: Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.

What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?

I have absolutely no idea; however, there are innumerable reasons people do this sort of thing. There's a reason all the industrial espionage operations go after 'disgruntled employee'


Or after people with a soul.
 
2013-04-09 03:25:30 PM

ginandbacon: There is NO such thing as a private speech. I don't care if you're at a $50,000/plate dinner or in a staff meeting


Um, Yes there is. It is illegal to record someone without their knowledge or consent and then publish the results.
 
2013-04-09 03:26:11 PM

namatad: Tigger: gilgigamesh: Tigger: g

You have to be pretty foolish to trust republicans. I see no reason why republicans wouldn't know this too.

What motive would you expect one of McConnell's advisors would have to go to Mother Jones to fark over McConnell?

I have absolutely no idea; however, there are innumerable reasons people do this sort of thing. There's a reason all the industrial espionage operations go after 'disgruntled employee'

Or after people with a soul.


Also a possibility. Fark is full of people who have woken up and realised the GOP is a morally abhorrent organisation, so we know it can happen.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:16 PM

vernonFL: ginandbacon: There is NO such thing as a private speech. I don't care if you're at a $50,000/plate dinner or in a staff meeting

Um, Yes there is. It is illegal to record someone without their knowledge or consent and then publish the results.


Actually that raises an interesting question, We know who the guy was who recorded the Romney 47% speech. I haven't heard anything about him facing prosecution.
 
2013-04-09 03:32:23 PM

gilgigamesh: vernonFL: ginandbacon: There is NO such thing as a private speech. I don't care if you're at a $50,000/plate dinner or in a staff meeting

Um, Yes there is. It is illegal to record someone without their knowledge or consent and then publish the results.

Actually that raises an interesting question, We know who the guy was who recorded the Romney 47% speech. I haven't heard anything about him facing prosecution.


It probably has to do with whether or not you had an expectation of privacy. I would guess if you were in a private strategy session it would be deemed that you had an expectation of privacy. I don't know if the same would be deemed for a person giving a speech for a few hundred people that paid to be there.
 
2013-04-09 03:32:28 PM

vernonFL: ginandbacon: There is NO such thing as a private speech. I don't care if you're at a $50,000/plate dinner or in a staff meeting

Um, Yes there is. It is illegal to record someone without their knowledge or consent and then publish the results.


It may be illegal but you have to be a fool to think that protects you from being recorded and outed if you are going to talk like a jerk in front of anyone who has a cellphone. Close your trap and conduct yourself with some dignity and this will never come up. You have to be completely insane if you think you can let stuff like this come out of your mouth and not have it get out. This is not rocket science.
 
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