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2013-04-09 01:43:25 PM
Ugh, leave them alone, don't waste government resources on one stupid kid and his stupid parents. Grandma needs to suck it up, she obviously raised one shiatty kid who wasn't capable of being a parent, what's to say the grandson will be any better?

Let Cuba worry about them from now on.
 
2013-04-09 01:49:33 PM
Janet Reno will make this right.
 
2013-04-09 01:50:23 PM
So they are bad parents because they hate the government and like to smoke pot?
LEAVE THEM ALONE!
 
2013-04-09 01:53:07 PM

Gig103: Ugh, leave them alone, don't waste government resources on one stupid kid and his stupid parents. Grandma needs to suck it up, she obviously raised one shiatty kid who wasn't capable of being a parent, what's to say the grandson will be any better?

Let Cuba worry about them from now on.


That's a great sentiment. In fact, lets just scrap all child welfare systems entirely, because they're expensive and the rotten crotchfruit clearly aren't worth anything.
 
2013-04-09 01:53:11 PM
"Approximately two weeks later, Slidell Police were notified that Mr. Hakken had shown up to the foster family home ... with a firearm demanding the return of his children," the Slidell police statement continued. "The foster parents called 911, and Mr. Hakken fled without his children. We have heard nothing until (Wednesday)."

Yeah, it looks like they took his kids from him for very good reasons.  He needs to be institutionalized.
 
2013-04-09 01:54:24 PM
Idiot anti-government douchebag loses custody of his kids by oppressive government action, kidnaps the kids and flees to into the arms of an even more oppressive government.

/Well bye...
 
2013-04-09 01:54:24 PM
Release the Hakkens!
 
2013-04-09 01:54:44 PM
"Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.

Does R stand for Retard? Seriously, Cuba has no laws?

The U.S. Interest Section in Havana  [...]

Why don't we get a proper embassy? The whole "we're so mad that we're not going to talk to you anymore" thing is stupid and only serves to make things more difficult when there is a real need for cooperation like in this case. Oh right, we can't because a bunch of people in Miami like to put the letter 'R' behind their name.
 
2013-04-09 01:55:03 PM
Interesting strategy, let's see how that works out for them.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:21 PM
By being forced into a closet?
 
2013-04-09 01:58:11 PM

solokumba: So they are bad parents because they hate the government and like to smoke pot?
LEAVE THEM ALONE!


They were planning to take their kids "to the Armageddon" with guns.  Do those people REALLY sound to you like they'd make good and safe parents?
 
2013-04-09 01:58:25 PM
Joshua Hakken and his wife, Sharyn Hakken, lost custody of their boys in July, after authorities in Louisiana found them acting bizarrely in a hotel room. Joshua Hakken had marijuana, a gun, a knife and his two boys with him.

Police arrested him and put the children in foster care.

About two weeks later, authorities say, Joshua Hakken showed up at the foster home, waiving a gun and demanding his boys back. He left after the foster mother called 911.


 This is all just one big misunderstanding.
 
2013-04-09 02:05:24 PM

FatherChaos: "Approximately two weeks later, Slidell Police were notified that Mr. Hakken had shown up to the foster family home ... with a firearm demanding the return of his children," the Slidell police statement continued. "The foster parents called 911, and Mr. Hakken fled without his children. We have heard nothing until (Wednesday)."

Yeah, it looks like they took his kids from him for very good reasons.  He needs to be institutionalized.


Damn right. You don't go carrying a sidearm into a situation involving the abduction of your children unless you're ready to escalate the situation until people are dead. Jesus Christ, have you not learned anything from 40 years of watching "The Institution" in action?! I say we need to immediately send this guy to any police academy, where he can be properly "institutionalized".
 
2013-04-09 02:06:01 PM

EngineerAU: "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.

Does R stand for Retard? Seriously, Cuba has no laws?

The U.S. Interest Section in Havana  [...]

Why don't we get a proper embassy? The whole "we're so mad that we're not going to talk to you anymore" thing is stupid and only serves to make things more difficult when there is a real need for cooperation like in this case. Oh right, we can't because a bunch of people in Miami like to put the letter 'R' behind their name.


Wow, you've convinced me! If it weren't for Republicans, Cuba would be a virtual paradise with perfect, amicable relations with the US!
 
2013-04-09 02:12:39 PM

Gig103: Ugh, leave them alone, don't waste government resources on one stupid kid and his stupid parents. Grandma needs to suck it up, she obviously raised one shiatty kid who wasn't capable of being a parent, what's to say the grandson will be any better?

Let Cuba worry about them from now on.


By all means, they should be allowed to disregard a court judgment which found the children's continued custody with the parents to be so dangerous to their safety and welfare that the court terminated their parental rights altogether.  I mean, screw those kids, and WTF does that court know, anyway?
 
2013-04-09 02:14:11 PM

solokumba: So they are bad parents because they hate the government and like to smoke pot?
LEAVE THEM ALONE!


About that whole anti-government thing....

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/hillsborough-deputie s- investigating-child-kidnapping/2112866

"My name is Joshua Hakken," he wrote. "I am a father, a registered professional mechanical engineer and a veteran of the USAF. I am absolutely devoted to life, liberty, the rights of the individual and the Constitution of the United States of America." After saying that he had noticed that "things here in Florida have not added up for quite some time," he concluded, "in these crazy times, maintaining open communication lines for ideas, observations and news is absolutely crucial if the 'good guys' are to be successful in surviving to maintain the fight of ideas."

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-09 02:14:24 PM

CarnySaur: By being forced into a closet?


por-img.cimcontent.net

Found you!  You're it!!
 
2013-04-09 02:15:45 PM

EngineerAU: "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.

Does R stand for Retard? Seriously, Cuba has no laws?


Ros-Lehtinen is a Florida Cuban. In a party filled with deranged assholes, they are real standouts.

For her the biggest issues of the day are Beyonce and Jay Z visiting Havana, and these meth-addled fundamentalists who Cuba offers them freedom from the [imaginary] oppression they face in the US.
 
2013-04-09 02:16:07 PM
It's not hard to do.

zeláznoG náilE

There... I did it for him.

/Why would I RTFA?
 
2013-04-09 02:18:46 PM
"I am absolutely devoted to life, liberty, the rights of the individual and the Constitution of the United States of America."

Good luck with that in Cuba.
 
2013-04-09 02:19:00 PM

TorqueToad: Wow, you've convinced me! If it weren't for Republicans, Cuba would be a virtual paradise with perfect, amicable relations with the US!


We don't have a perfect, amicable relationship with Canada, but that hasn't stopped us.
 
2013-04-09 02:19:14 PM

TorqueToad: Wow, you've convinced me! If it weren't for Republicans, Cuba would be a virtual paradise with perfect, amicable relations with the US!


If it weren't for the embargo, Castro would have been gone forty years ago or more.
 
2013-04-09 02:19:46 PM
I, for one, fully expect Cuba to graciously respect the same familial rights and custody laws we respected when we returned Elian Gonzales, and return this child to his legal guardian in America.
 
2013-04-09 02:20:29 PM
Am I the only one who thinks "a reverse Elián González" would involve going to Cuba to retrieve your kid...NOT taking him there?
 
2013-04-09 02:21:32 PM
They got a lot of 'splainin to do.
 
2013-04-09 02:25:39 PM

CarnySaur: By being forced into a closet?


In Florida, you're always forced to be in the closet.
 
2013-04-09 02:27:40 PM

EngineerAU: "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.

Does R stand for Retard?


And D stands for Dumbass. This concludes todays Poli-Sci 101 course. There'll be a quiz tomorrow.
 
2013-04-09 02:27:52 PM
But Cuba doesn't subscribe to corporate socialism which makes them communists.
 
2013-04-09 02:28:23 PM

detritus: CarnySaur: By being forced into a closet?

In Florida, you're always forced to be in the closet.


You've clearly never been to South Beach.
 
2013-04-09 02:28:55 PM
I'll never forget Marisleysis' last press conference where she went into hysterics and repeatedly yelled "I demand you let me see him. I DEMAND!!!" and waved that famous photo, screaming "your child will be next". My favorite part was when she asked why everybody was laughing at her. Defiitely felt more schadenfruede than I have before or since.

/live by the press coverage
//die by the press coverage
 
2013-04-09 02:30:20 PM
The father is a bit of a lunatic. Hope the kids are okay.

Taking a trip to the Armageddon
http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/04/louisiana-police-claim-hakkens-said - they

http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/09/josh-hakken-man-who-kidnapped-kids- a fter
 
2013-04-09 02:30:21 PM
"Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.
 Maybe those kids were terrorists,  Guantanamo would be the correct place to send them.
 
2013-04-09 02:32:30 PM

flynn80: "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.
 Maybe those kids were terrorists,  Guantanamo would be the correct place to send them.


Not really. The sign outside the waterboarding chamber clearly states: "You have to be THIS tall to ride this ride".
 
2013-04-09 02:33:10 PM

Satanic_Hamster: solokumba: So they are bad parents because they hate the government and like to smoke pot?
LEAVE THEM ALONE!

They were planning to take their kids "to the Armageddon" with guns.  Do those people REALLY sound to you like they'd make good and safe parents?


Reason Magazine has been lionizing these two as great patriots for a week.
 
2013-04-09 02:38:16 PM
Cuba is like, the best neighbor ever. It's like we share a bedroom wall in a duplex, and there's just never any noise at all. Just strangely quiet, minding their own business and never attracting attention to themselves. Like a Caribbean Finland.
 
2013-04-09 02:38:48 PM

Danger Avoid Death: Not really. The sign outside the waterboarding chamber clearly states: "You have to be THIS tall to ride this ride".


The face of the clown was replaced with Ahmadinejad.
 
2013-04-09 02:39:25 PM

Danger Avoid Death: flynn80: "Unfortunately, these parents and these poor children, these innocent ones, will now be in a country where there are no laws, there is no redress, and that has been a refuge for fugitives and wanted criminals for many years," Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R- Florida, told CNN.
 Maybe those kids were terrorists,  Guantanamo would be the correct place to send them.

Not really. The sign outside the waterboarding chamber clearly states: "You have to be THIS tall to ride this ride".


So what do they do with midget suicide bombers?
 
2013-04-09 02:40:05 PM
CNN locates family who fled Florida to CubaThey shall not escape Florida so easily.
 
2013-04-09 02:41:04 PM

BSABSVR: Satanic_Hamster: solokumba: So they are bad parents because they hate the government and like to smoke pot?
LEAVE THEM ALONE!

They were planning to take their kids "to the Armageddon" with guns.  Do those people REALLY sound to you like they'd make good and safe parents?

Reason Magazine has been lionizing these two as great patriots for a week.


That's not exactly helping their case.

Don't understand the far right on issues like this.  You'd think someone would say, "Hey, does defending these people really even help us, if not make us look really bad?"
 
2013-04-09 02:41:47 PM

tricycleracer: Joshua Hakken and his wife, Sharyn Hakken, lost custody of their boys in July, after authorities in Louisiana found them acting bizarrely in a hotel room. Joshua Hakken had marijuana, a gun, a knife and his two boys with him.

Police arrested him and put the children in foster care.

About two weeks later, authorities say, Joshua Hakken showed up at the foster home, waiving a gun and demanding his boys back. He left after the foster mother called 911.

 This is all just one big misunderstanding.


I know a lot of guys who are great fathers and husbands and pretty much always have a gun and a knife and marijuana in their truck at least
 
2013-04-09 02:42:08 PM
If I'm not mistaken, a Reverse Elian is when you high-jack yourself for political purposes of your own and force yourself to fly to Cuba." In other words, it's sort of like when you hold a gun to your own head and say. "Nobody move or the N****r gets it!"

A regular Elian is when everybody else high-jacks you for political purposes of their own. Any guns held to your head are purely to ensure you stay safe and happy where you are. It's like somebody putting a gun to your head and says "Don't move. We don't want to have to shoot you for your own good."

Either way, there is a danger of somebody shooting off your nose to spite your face.
 
2013-04-09 02:47:23 PM

Stone Meadow: Am I the only one who thinks "a reverse Elián González" would involve going to Cuba to retrieve your kid...NOT taking him there?


As long as you're accompanied by Moses Dolphins and take a raft to get to Cuba to retrieve him
 
2013-04-09 02:48:20 PM
media.thedenverchannel.com gamefans.com www.decodeunicode.org
 
2013-04-09 02:50:04 PM

brantgoose: If I'm not mistaken, a Reverse Elian is when you high-jack yourself for political purposes of your own and force yourself to fly to Cuba." In other words, it's sort of like when you hold a gun to your own head and say. "Nobody move or the N****r gets it!"

A regular Elian is when everybody else high-jacks you for political purposes of their own. Any guns held to your head are purely to ensure you stay safe and happy where you are. It's like somebody putting a gun to your head and says "Don't move. We don't want to have to shoot you for your own good."

Either way, there is a danger of somebody shooting off your nose to spite your face.


i.imgur.comi.imgur.com
 
2013-04-09 02:54:10 PM
Josh Hakken, described as an anti-government protester

No irony in going to Cuba.
 
2013-04-09 02:54:51 PM
Upon learning that custody was given to the grandparents, from whom the boys were kidnapped by their own parents, my first question is why they lost custody of their children.

Article says that they were acting strangely in a hotel, talking about making a voyage to Armageddon, yada, yada.

Game plan:

OK, religious conservatives take the parents side and insist the children remain in Cuba, which, although it appears to be in the opposite direction of Armageddon, which presumably is in California, will do for now.

Atheists, take the position that the parents are religious nutters and a danger to their children because of their insane End Times beliefs and because of the possibility that they may belong to some kind of private suicide cult, possibly Christian.

Non-religious conservatives insist that the children and all criminals currently taking refuge in Cuba be returned to the USA forthwith, and that the children be given back to their grandparents.

Religious liberals, take the position that Cuba is probably a safer and less Godless place to live than Florida and that while the grandparents sound like a better option than the parents, you don't like to judge others, lest ye be judged.

Floridans take the position that anybody in Cuba can stay in Cuba unless they vote Republican and have lots of money.

Liberals and Cuba-lovers complain that the idiot Florida Republican said that Cuba has no laws, which is far from the truth.

Fark trolls complain that Subby used an "Interesting" tag when the story is, in fact, not interesting.

Everybody else ask yourselves why this does not deserve a Florida tag.

Cuban Farkers, if there are any, ask for a "Cuba" tag. You will have the full support of conservative Republicans and other nutters. You can't expect much support from friends of Castro, Devil's Advocates, or anybody who holds intelligent, nuanced, realist views on any subject whatsoever.

If they gave Cuba a tag, they'd have to give Canada, Puerto Rico and Guam a tag. That way lies madness.
 
2013-04-09 02:58:12 PM
Here's an idea:

The U.S. empties all prisons and jails and sends them to Cuba.

Turn about is fair play; kind of a reverse Mariel boatlift .
 
2013-04-09 02:58:45 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Don't understand the far right on issues like this. You'd think someone would say, "Hey, does defending these people really even help us, if not make us look really bad?"


The parents are into guns and homeschooling.

Catnip for 'libertarians'.
 
2013-04-09 03:00:45 PM
Jgok:
Not really. The sign outside the waterboarding chamber clearly states: "You have to be THIS tall to ride this ride".

So what do they do with midget suicide bombers?


The Navy uses them as anti-ship mines in Iran.
 
2013-04-09 03:09:18 PM

brantgoose: Upon learning that custody was given to the grandparents, from whom the boys were kidnapped by their own parents, my first question is why they lost custody of their children.

Article says that they were acting strangely in a hotel, talking about making a voyage to Armageddon, yada, yada.

Game plan:

OK, religious conservatives take the parents side and insist the children remain in Cuba, which, although it appears to be in the opposite direction of Armageddon, which presumably is in California, will do for now.

Atheists, take the position that the parents are religious nutters and a danger to their children because of their insane End Times beliefs and because of the possibility that they may belong to some kind of private suicide cult, possibly Christian.

Non-religious conservatives insist that the children and all criminals currently taking refuge in Cuba be returned to the USA forthwith, and that the children be given back to their grandparents.

Religious liberals, take the position that Cuba is probably a safer and less Godless place to live than Florida and that while the grandparents sound like a better option than the parents, you don't like to judge others, lest ye be judged.

Floridans take the position that anybody in Cuba can stay in Cuba unless they vote Republican and have lots of money.

Liberals and Cuba-lovers complain that the idiot Florida Republican said that Cuba has no laws, which is far from the truth.

Fark trolls complain that Subby used an "Interesting" tag when the story is, in fact, not interesting.

Everybody else ask yourselves why this does not deserve a Florida tag.

Cuban Farkers, if there are any, ask for a "Cuba" tag. You will have the full support of conservative Republicans and other nutters. You can't expect much support from friends of Castro, Devil's Advocates, or anybody who holds intelligent, nuanced, realist views on any subject whatsoever.

If they gave Cuba a tag, they'd have to give Canada, Puerto Rico and Guam a tag. That way lies madness.


i.imgur.com
 
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