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(Chosun (Korea))   North Korea has notified nations that it plans to launch a missile over Japan on Wednesday. Japan has notified North Korea that if it does it's about to have a really bad rest of the week   ( english.chosun.com) divider line
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2013-04-09 01:13:10 PM  
Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.
 
2013-04-09 01:14:23 PM  
Can't imagine why Japan would be all flinchy about possible nuke tests.

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Oh, yeah.
 
2013-04-09 01:17:26 PM  
I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.
 
2013-04-09 01:18:07 PM  
I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...
 
2013-04-09 01:21:18 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


Not a bad result for the little prick, if it works out exactly as he hopes.  It won't though.  Being rebuilt by the west is one thing, but that country is a barren wasteland, and not because of the Kim Jong family.  They can't grow anything.  They can't produce anything but weapons.  Sadly, they are very good at that.  We can't go in and rebuild and turn them into a thriving economy based on agriculture or business.  They have shiat for natural resources.
 
2013-04-09 01:23:54 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


Unlikely to happen.  More likely is a Chinese annexation of NK.  And they'll only do that if absolutely necessary.
 
2013-04-09 01:27:06 PM  
So last week they said all embassies need to be evacuated on 4/10/13. Now they're announcing a missile test, over Japan, on 4/10/13.

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2013-04-09 01:29:19 PM  

Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.


Has Japan ever claimed they would shoot down a test missile before?
 
2013-04-09 01:31:53 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


I don't believe that Kim would make it through such an affair with both his head and his freedom intact.  The world hasn't been kind to disposed dictators of late.
 
2013-04-09 01:33:11 PM  

GleeUnit: hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...

I don't believe that Kim would make it through such an affair with both his head and his freedom intact.  The world hasn't been kind to disposed dictators of late.


Deposed, even.
 
2013-04-09 01:35:14 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.


Really?
 
2013-04-09 01:36:41 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


Assuming of course that he lives through the intense bombing & assorted coup attempts surely to follow....

But yes I too was wondering if this was just a (deranged) plan to get the entire country rebuilt/brought up to code/decent infrastructure/etc on the cheap.  Sure you'll kill a bunch of your people, but you can't feed them anyway.  Also a bunch of military hardware will get chewed up, but it too is for the most part completely outdated & should have been sold as surplus decades ago.

I can see Little Kim a couple of weeks from now sitting deep in a bunker as BIG bombs are falling all around him, with a genuinely puzzled look on his face as he whines "But they've always backed down before..."
 
2013-04-09 01:36:48 PM  

GAT_00: Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.

Has Japan ever claimed they would shoot down a test missile before?


Just read that.  Also, caught this tidbit that's going to drive NK nuts...

He said Okinawa was "the place that is most effective in responding to emergencies ... so we should deploy the unit in Okinawa on a permanent basis".

Permanent basis for a few Patriot missile launchers.  That's basically the Japanese saying "No more missile flyovers of Japan for you."
 
2013-04-09 01:39:24 PM  

EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?


To be fair, those RREs are way way way out of reach right now.  NK mines only operate at about 30% capacity out of safety concerns.  They're obscenely outdated and in need of serious repair.  To get at those RREs in any real capacity would take a massive overhaul of existing infrastructure and modernization of their mining equipment.

A serious serious investment that would only pay off in a decade or so, if that.
 
2013-04-09 01:41:25 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.


Really? Where in Hawaii?

As a Canadian stuck in the frozen north, I dream of moving to Hawaii. I've looked at jobs there a few times, but it's hard for a Canadian to get hired...at least in government work.

/sigh
//threadjack
 
2013-04-09 01:44:12 PM  
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2013-04-09 01:51:21 PM  
Why We Will Not Go To War With North Korea:

1. A tank gets 0.6 miles per gallon
2. North Korea produces 0.0 billion barrels of oil per day
3. China exports  8,432 bbl/day to North Korea
4. Seoul alone has a population of 10,000,000+ people
5. North Korea has approximately 5,000 tanks, more than half of which are absurdly outdated
6. Even without South Korean resistance, they would need all of those tanks AND about 1,000,000 supporting men, trucks, etc to take and hold Seoul
7. Which they would need lots and lots and LOTS of fuel for
8. Which they won't get without Chinese support

Also: 

1. North Korean nuclear weapons are smaller than the Hiroshima bomb
2. North Korea's sole nuclear plant only puts out enough material to make about one bomb per year
3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all
4. North Korea has only conducted 7 missile tests, 2 of which were long range and one of which failed

To sum up: they probably can't shoot us at all. Even if everything goes perfectly and won't shoot it down and the missile lands on target AND the bomb goes off...it will probably be less than 1/2 the yield of the Hiroshima bomb. For which we would immediately turn their whole country into a self-illuminating glass parking lot. Or invade, burn their palace down around their ears, and hang every man we found. Either way, it would be the total destruction of both their regime and their state, in return for...not all that much. 

A more scary scenario involves a launch at Seoul or Tokyo, but even that would get instant condemnation and destruction. Hell...China would HELP us dismantle them at that point.

The only scenario where this possibly leads to war in one in which they somehow get Chinese backing, then use those nukes to blast a couple of big-ass holes through the DMZ and roll south with everything they have. They would do a LOT of damage. Seoul would be wrecked, central South Korea would be a mess, and it would take some pretty sharp action to stop them. But it would happen. It would be the Korean War all over again, with the same result: unless China or Russia intervenes on behalf of North Korea, they cease to exist. 

North Korea is all kinds of crazy, but suicidal they aren't. Even if they actually believe their own propaganda vis-a-vis the US, they're quite realistic when it comes to China. They know they have an icicle's chance in Hell of taking them, and they have even less chance than that of surviving very long without their backing.

In summary: short of suicide, there will be no war, at least not started by North Korea. This current brinksmanship is happening for internal political reasons in North Korea, and will blow over eventually.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:05 PM  

whistleridge: Why We Will Not Go To War With North Korea:

1. A tank gets 0.6 miles per gallon
2. North Korea produces 0.0 billion barrels of oil per day
3. China exports  8,432 bbl/day to North Korea
4. Seoul alone has a population of 10,000,000+ people
5. North Korea has approximately 5,000 tanks, more than half of which are absurdly outdated
6. Even without South Korean resistance, they would need all of those tanks AND about 1,000,000 supporting men, trucks, etc to take and hold Seoul
7. Which they would need lots and lots and LOTS of fuel for
8. Which they won't get without Chinese support

Also: 

1. North Korean nuclear weapons are smaller than the Hiroshima bomb
2. North Korea's sole nuclear plant only puts out enough material to make about one bomb per year
3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all
4. North Korea has only conducted 7 missile tests, 2 of which were long range and one of which failed

To sum up: they probably can't shoot us at all. Even if everything goes perfectly and won't shoot it down and the missile lands on target AND the bomb goes off...it will probably be less than 1/2 the yield of the Hiroshima bomb. For which we would immediately turn their whole country into a self-illuminating glass parking lot. Or invade, burn their palace down around their ears, and hang every man we found. Either way, it would be the total destruction of both their regime and their state, in return for...not all that much. 

A more scary scenario involves a launch at Seoul or Tokyo, but even that would get instant condemnation and destruction. Hell...China would HELP us dismantle them at that point.

The only scenario where this possibly leads to war in one in which they somehow get Chinese backing, then use those nukes to blast a couple of big-ass holes through the DMZ and roll south with everything they have. They would do a LOT of damage. Seoul would be wrecked, central South Korea would be a mess, and it would take some pretty sharp action to stop th ...


Whatever's going on in NK, it's managed to put China on the same side as Japan.

No matter what else goes down, 'that' deserves to be noticed and remarked upon.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:50 PM  

whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all


Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means. Also, Alaska and Hawaii are very much part of the US.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:56 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means. Also, Alaska and Hawaii are very much part of the US.


Considering the level of tech involved in what they laughably call a 'delivery system', they'd be lucky if it didn't accidentally end up landing in China.
 
2013-04-09 02:01:28 PM  

Infernalist: Considering the level of tech involved in what they laughably call a 'delivery system', they'd be lucky if it didn't accidentally end up landing in China.


I think that's referred to as the "best case scenario".
 
2013-04-09 02:03:36 PM  

whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all


They'd have better luck throwing them.
 
2013-04-09 02:05:55 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means.


Fine.

Here:

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And here:

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And here:

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The point is: Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco, and LA are all in the 'maybe...if everything goes right' range. 

Also, Alaska and Hawaii are very much part of the US.
 
Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.
 
2013-04-09 02:08:12 PM  
Seriously, how much stick are we going to take from Chubby Jongstocking before droning some manners up his ham-hocks?
 
2013-04-09 02:14:36 PM  
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2013-04-09 02:15:44 PM  
Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.
 
2013-04-09 02:23:20 PM  

PreMortem: Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.


I imagine the US'll shoot down anything as soon as it clears NK airspace.
 
2013-04-09 02:35:23 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: PreMortem: Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.

I imagine the US'll shoot down anything as soon as it clears NK airspace.


Sadly, that's harder to do than you might think. Just like they're lying through their teeth about shooting the US, we're lying through our teeth about our ability to shoot everything down.

Ground-based interceptors (GBI) have about a 50% success rate in tests, and that's under conditions where we know when the shot is coming, where it's being aimed, how fast it will be going, and what the profile of the target it. Expect that rate to drop by at least 50% in real-world conditions. We cheat, and say we'll fire 4 or 5 for a cumulative kill rate of 97%, but that's a projection - it's never been tested.

Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) has a 100% test rate to date, but it's more limited in range and speed.

So...IF we can get THAAD-equipped ships in place, and IF they get proper intelligence of a coming test shot, and IF they can fire in the 1 - 2 minute window needed to successfully intercept, then yes...we can probably shoot their missile down. If THAAD doesn't come into play, we've got a greatly diminished chance of shooting it down.

Don't get me wrong: it's a hell of a lot more than we had in the Cold War, and a hell of a lot better than the 'nothing' everyone else has, but it's still far from a sure thing.
 
2013-04-09 02:41:27 PM  
Wouldn't this made for an excellent real-world test of the Patriot defense system?
 
2013-04-09 02:50:08 PM  

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2013-04-09 02:57:12 PM  

Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.


Yes, but this time they've gone Full Retard before doing so.
 
2013-04-09 02:59:07 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


Oh, Kim won't be permitted to see the rebuild. He's going to either die in the middle of it or become the new world hide-and-seek champ.
 
2013-04-09 02:59:11 PM  
I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....
 
2013-04-09 02:59:15 PM  
Well, that's one way for Japan to get out of a stagnating decades long economic slump.
 
2013-04-09 03:00:25 PM  

Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.


Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...
 
2013-04-09 03:00:35 PM  

Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....


Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.
 
2013-04-09 03:01:26 PM  
Given that they have actively THREATENED nuclear war, Japan has absolutely every right to shoot down any missile coming from there.  I rather doubt Japan would do anything else, but they certainly have made it clear that they absolutely do intend to do so.  Patriot missile batteries deployed in Tokyo.  They have to protect their own population, any nation would do the same.
 
2013-04-09 03:02:17 PM  

This About That: Wouldn't this made for an excellent real-world test of the Patriot defense system?


Didn't we do that back in the early 90's? I imagine they've only got better since then.
 
2013-04-09 03:03:08 PM  
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2013-04-09 03:03:09 PM  
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2013-04-09 03:03:57 PM  
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2013-04-09 03:04:40 PM  

netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...


I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?
 
2013-04-09 03:04:50 PM  

nekom: Given that they have actively THREATENED nuclear war, Japan has absolutely every right to shoot down any missile coming from there.  I rather doubt Japan would do anything else, but they certainly have made it clear that they absolutely do intend to do so.  Patriot missile batteries deployed in Tokyo.  They have to protect their own population, any nation would do the same.


Besides, the one thing you don't threaten in front of Japan is nuclear anything. They get rather cross about the prospect of getting nuked. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Fukushima, and remember, Godzilla was originally an allegory about being reckless with nuclear power brought on after a random fishing boat of theirs got caught in nuclear-test fallout.
 
2013-04-09 03:05:15 PM  
If they do shoot a missile over Japan, the trajectory probably won't allow current systems to shoot it down, it will be near apogee when it passes over won't it? Unless it malfunctions and part of hit hits Japan, oops, then all hell will break loose.
 
2013-04-09 03:05:33 PM  

Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.


Japan has never pre-announced their plans to shoot down the missile before.
 
2013-04-09 03:05:44 PM  

fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?


The No Dong sounds homophobic to me.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:22 PM  

whistleridge: Ground-based interceptors (GBI) have about a 50% success rate in tests, and that's under conditions where we know when the shot is coming, where it's being aimed, how fast it will be going, and what the profile of the target it. Expect that rate to drop by at least 50% in real-world conditions. We cheat, and say we'll fire 4 or 5 for a cumulative kill rate of 97%, but that's a projection - it's never been tested.


That's only an issue if they are firing dozens of long range missiles, the chances that they have more than 1 or 2 long range missiles is unlikely at best. We have more than enough interceptors to send 4 or 5 or more at the 1 or 2 they might send.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:29 PM  

KarmicDisaster: If they do shoot a missile over Japan, the trajectory probably won't allow current systems to shoot it down, it will be near apogee when it passes over won't it? Unless it malfunctions and part of hit hits Japan, oops, then all hell will break loose.


Japan ain't going to give a good goddamn about apogee. If it enters Japanese airspace, they're going to flip their shiat.
 
2013-04-09 03:06:35 PM  

I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.


Take off his shirt and start strangling biatches?
 
2013-04-09 03:06:54 PM  
Well, it's currently Wednesday in NK.
 
2013-04-09 03:07:04 PM  
Also shot down over the Sea of Japan
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2013-04-09 03:07:15 PM  
You think lil Kim has seen "The Mouse that Roared" one too many times.


I was watching BBC world news this morning and they were showing how Japan has deployed anti missle battaries around th ecountry and said if anything flew near them they would shoot it down.
 
2013-04-09 03:07:31 PM  

I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.


As can I. A diplomatic phone call to the Chinese, Japanese and US, saying to look the other way for ten minutes.

Remember the Somali pirates the Russian Navy stranded at sea?
 
2013-04-09 03:07:45 PM  

Rev.K: AdolfOliverPanties: I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.

Really? Where in Hawaii?

As a Canadian stuck in the frozen north, I dream of moving to Hawaii. I've looked at jobs there a few times, but it's hard for a Canadian to get hired...at least in government work.

/sigh
//threadjack


Calgary is NOT the frozen north...
 
2013-04-09 03:08:02 PM  

fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.


Japan shoots it down and NK calls that the agression and First Strike. Then it's on. It fits in with the theory that Lil-Un is starting shiat on purpose to lose and eventually be fed and rebuilt. Or he's just bat shiat insane.
 
2013-04-09 03:08:22 PM  

Gosling: nekom: Given that they have actively THREATENED nuclear war, Japan has absolutely every right to shoot down any missile coming from there.  I rather doubt Japan would do anything else, but they certainly have made it clear that they absolutely do intend to do so.  Patriot missile batteries deployed in Tokyo.  They have to protect their own population, any nation would do the same.

Besides, the one thing you don't threaten in front of Japan is nuclear anything. They get rather cross about the prospect of getting nuked. Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Fukushima, and remember, Godzilla was originally an allegory about being reckless with nuclear power brought on after a random fishing boat of theirs got caught in nuclear-test fallout.


Very true. Though only the older generation remembers firsthand, but I can see why of all people in the world they might be especially worried about nukes.
 
2013-04-09 03:08:37 PM  

I_C_Weener: The No Dong sounds homophobic to me.


At BEST.  Less than manly at worst.
 
2013-04-09 03:08:50 PM  
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/Godzilla always delivers
 
2013-04-09 03:08:59 PM  

whistleridge: ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means.

Fine.

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And here:

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2013-04-09 03:09:16 PM  

I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.


"Kim Jong Eun was hospitalized today, apparently for a missing larynx...."
 
2013-04-09 03:09:32 PM  
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2013-04-09 03:09:45 PM  

Robo Beat: I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.

Take off his shirt and start strangling biatches?


That too.  But what I was thinking ryhmes with plutonium poisoning.
 
2013-04-09 03:10:01 PM  

nekom: Very true. Though only the older generation remembers firsthand, but I can see why of all people in the world they might be especially worried about nukes.


The older generation remembers getting nuked by the US. They all remember the Fukushima incident.
 
2013-04-09 03:10:11 PM  

Gosling: KarmicDisaster: If they do shoot a missile over Japan, the trajectory probably won't allow current systems to shoot it down, it will be near apogee when it passes over won't it? Unless it malfunctions and part of hit hits Japan, oops, then all hell will break loose.

Japan ain't going to give a good goddamn about apogee. If it enters Japanese airspace, they're going to flip their shiat.


Oh, yeah they will, but like I said, a Patriot battery or anything else Japan possesses won't be able to shoot it down, it will be out of the envelope.  US anti-missle picket ship might have a chance depending.
 
2013-04-09 03:11:36 PM  

whistleridge: Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.


You're assuming they can actually tip that super long range three stage TD2 missile with a functional nuclear weapon. And that everything works.

I doubt the missile actually has that range, could hit anything accurately (even within a CEP of a few miles) at that range), would actually work as expected, and I REALLY doubt they have a nuclear weapon they can put on the top of the thing. It's one thing to build an atomic bomb. It's another to get the packaging down to a size where it fits on a rocket and is actually deliverable by ICBM.

The only evidence I've seen or heard of (not that I've seen a ton) that they actually have such a warhead is NK's own hyperbolic statements. At this point I'd trust a used car dealer to give me a reliable vehicle at a great price more than I would Kim Jong Un to accurately portray the current state of their forces.
 
2013-04-09 03:11:59 PM  

Gosling: nekom: Very true. Though only the older generation remembers firsthand, but I can see why of all people in the world they might be especially worried about nukes.

The older generation remembers getting nuked by the US. They all remember the Fukushima incident.


Right, but they aren't exactly unique in that. The USSR and the USA have both had nuclear accidents of varying degrees of awfulness, but only Japan has ever actually been nuked.

Of course as an American who grew up at the tail end of the cold war, I still remember "duck and cover", it's a worldwide fear, but Japan certainly has a unique perspective on that.
 
2013-04-09 03:12:37 PM  
i.imgur.com

Quick!  Get in the bunker!!!
 
2013-04-09 03:12:43 PM  

MindStalker: whistleridge: Ground-based interceptors (GBI) have about a 50% success rate in tests, and that's under conditions where we know when the shot is coming, where it's being aimed, how fast it will be going, and what the profile of the target it. Expect that rate to drop by at least 50% in real-world conditions. We cheat, and say we'll fire 4 or 5 for a cumulative kill rate of 97%, but that's a projection - it's never been tested.

That's only an issue if they are firing dozens of long range missiles, the chances that they have more than 1 or 2 long range missiles is unlikely at best. We have more than enough interceptors to send 4 or 5 or more at the 1 or 2 they might send.


Hopefully, yes. I wouldn't want to gamble LA on it though.
 
2013-04-09 03:13:01 PM  

fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?


How do you feel about "dongle"? they are all over electronics.
 
2013-04-09 03:13:14 PM  
Kim is just a big Watchmen fan and is doing his part to unify the globe.
 
2013-04-09 03:13:27 PM  

akula: whistleridge: Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

You're assuming they can actually tip that super long range three stage TD2 missile with a functional nuclear weapon. And that everything works.

I doubt the missile actually has that range, could hit anything accurately (even within a CEP of a few miles) at that range), would actually work as expected, and I REALLY doubt they have a nuclear weapon they can put on the top of the thing. It's one thing to build an atomic bomb. It's another to get the packaging down to a size where it fits on a rocket and is actually deliverable by ICBM.

The only evidence I've seen or heard of (not that I've seen a ton) that they actually have such a warhead is NK's own hyperbolic statements. At this point I'd trust a used car dealer to give me a reliable vehicle at a great price more than I would Kim Jong Un to accurately portray the current state of their forces.


How I can tell you didn't read the whole thread :p 

See my Boobies.
 
2013-04-09 03:13:41 PM  

whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.


FTFY
 
2013-04-09 03:13:53 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Oh, yeah they will, but like I said, a Patriot battery or anything else Japan possesses won't be able to shoot it down, it will be out of the envelope. US anti-missle picket ship might have a chance depending.


Who said Japan would be shooting at the missile?
 
2013-04-09 03:14:05 PM  
Kim is like someone who plays the single player version of an FPS on easy level, then thinks he is going to dominate in actual on-line multiplayer situations.
 
2013-04-09 03:14:08 PM  

Gosling: hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...

Oh, Kim won't be permitted to see the rebuild. He's going to either die in the middle of it or become the new world hide-and-seek champ.


On an unrelated note, some insurance salesman named Kim Jongli is pricing condos in Pierre, SD.
 
2013-04-09 03:14:12 PM  

whistleridge: How I can tell you didn't read the whole thread :p

See my Boobies.


EIP?
 
2013-04-09 03:14:30 PM  

PreMortem: Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.


You know who else got shot down over the Sea of Japan?
 
2013-04-09 03:14:53 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?

How do you feel about "dongle"? they are all over electronics.


Shhhh! You wanna get fired?
 
2013-04-09 03:15:33 PM  
i290.photobucket.com
"This business,,,is the biggest joke I ever heard.
They got nothing.  We know their every move.
Even their friends think they're dicks.
I'll be in my room taking a nap.  If anything flies over, shoot it down!"
 
2013-04-09 03:15:43 PM  

CruiserTwelve: [i162.photobucket.com image 320x480]


Chuck could knock a missile down with a stern look.
 
2013-04-09 03:15:47 PM  

stonicus: Kim is like someone who plays the single player version of an FPS on easy level, then thinks he is going to dominate in actual on-line multiplayer situations.


And he's doing your mom of course.
 
2013-04-09 03:15:52 PM  
The poor Pacific ocean.  NK has a great record of beating up the Ocean with failed launches.  Why are there no environmental protests against NK for their attacks on the Pacific?
 
2013-04-09 03:16:22 PM  

whistleridge: ThatGuyGreg: PreMortem: Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.

I imagine the US'll shoot down anything as soon as it clears NK airspace.

Sadly, that's harder to do than you might think. Just like they're lying through their teeth about shooting the US, we're lying through our teeth about our ability to shoot everything down.

Ground-based interceptors (GBI) have about a 50% success rate in tests, and that's under conditions where we know when the shot is coming, where it's being aimed, how fast it will be going, and what the profile of the target it. Expect that rate to drop by at least 50% in real-world conditions. We cheat, and say we'll fire 4 or 5 for a cumulative kill rate of 97%, but that's a projection - it's never been tested.

Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) has a 100% test rate to date, but it's more limited in range and speed.

So...IF we can get THAAD-equipped ships in place, and IF they get proper intelligence of a coming test shot, and IF they can fire in the 1 - 2 minute window needed to successfully intercept, then yes...we can probably shoot their missile down. If THAAD doesn't come into play, we've got a greatly diminished chance of shooting it down.

Don't get me wrong: it's a hell of a lot more than we had in the Cold War, and a hell of a lot better than the 'nothing' everyone else has, but it's still far from a sure thing.


I believe THAAD is actually in place already. Along with some weird little floating radar buoy box we put out in the Pacific. Some people have speculated that this means we've moved a solid portion of our B-2 fleet to Guam, as many people in Missouri reported seeing a squadron fly towards the west coast a few days back. Missouri and Guam are the only bases where these bombers can be flown out of. NK's main weapon is its artillery. They currently have the largest artillery force on the planet. They bought almost everyone's surplus after air superiority became the name of the game. Their positions are dug in for this, and the shelling of Seoul would be brutal. That's really their only card apart from human wave tactics. Half of their guns don't even work. If you watch their propaganda videos, some of the AKs are missing the bolt carrier, their machine guns are cobbled together from various obsolete models and made solely to look scary, and their training is laughable. They fire from the hip while advancing. This works well for a human wave, but only if your gun has a bolt. Without that, you might as well be pointing at people and yelling bang.

tl;dr- NK has nothing worth mentioning apart from artillery as far as conventional warfare is concerned, and we've put countermeasures in place for missile launches.
 
2013-04-09 03:17:15 PM  
Germany's reportedly allied itself with Japan, backing them up if BK so much as skeets in their direction.

It's just like old times.
 
2013-04-09 03:17:25 PM  

namegoeshere: fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Japan shoots it down and NK calls that the agression and First Strike. Then it's on. It fits in with the theory that Lil-Un is starting shiat on purpose to lose and eventually be fed and rebuilt. Or he's just bat shiat insane.


I'd guess he's insane. Lived a life of privilege? Check. Never exposed to reality? Check. Got everything/got away with anything he ever wanted? Probably. Spoiled? Oh most certainly.
 
2013-04-09 03:17:33 PM  

stonicus: Kim is like someone who plays the single player version of an FPS on easy level, then thinks he is going to dominate in actual on-line multiplayer situations.


Eh, really? EASY MODO!?
 
2013-04-09 03:18:14 PM  

stonicus: Kim is like someone who plays the single player version of an FPS on easy level, then thinks he is going to dominate in actual on-line multiplayer situations.


You mean RTS.. I mean, they are Korean after all.
 
2013-04-09 03:18:40 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...

Not a bad result for the little prick, if it works out exactly as he hopes.  It won't though.  Being rebuilt by the west is one thing, but that country is a barren wasteland, and not because of the Kim Jong family.  They can't grow anything.  They can't produce anything but weapons.  Sadly, they are very good at that.  We can't go in and rebuild and turn them into a thriving economy based on agriculture or business.  They have shiat for natural resources.


Absolutely false.  Lots of natural resources, and farm-able land.  Been there.  Seen it. Got the t-shirt and a pic
 
2013-04-09 03:18:59 PM  

probesport: Well, it's currently Wednesday in NK.


But they need light to man the launch controls.
 
2013-04-09 03:19:05 PM  
I wonder if NK is misdirecting the world's attention to Japan so they can bomb the bejeezus out of SK?

Food for thought.
 
2013-04-09 03:19:30 PM  
In other news today, the US Navy 7th Fleet held a press conference to announce their plan to test their AEGIS anti missile system in the vicinity of Japan around Wednesday.

When questioned, the spokesman denied that the Navy's announcement was anything other than purely coincidental vis-a-vis a recently announced possible North Korean missile launch.  He was quoted as saying, "No shiat?  They are?  Huh.  How about that?"
 
2013-04-09 03:19:33 PM  

fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?


"It's an entirely different type of dong altogether."
 
2013-04-09 03:19:38 PM  

MrBigglesworth: The poor Pacific ocean.  NK has a great record of beating up the Ocean with failed launches.  Why are there no environmental protests against NK for their attacks on the Pacific?


That's a bit like finding out your kid beat the crap out of an old lady while cutting school and robbing the corner store and then yelling at him for not making his bed that morning.
 
2013-04-09 03:19:52 PM  

EatHam: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

They'd have better luck throwing them.


Probably on schedule right at 5 0'clock.

basementrejects.com
 
2013-04-09 03:19:55 PM  

I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.


I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.
 
2013-04-09 03:20:34 PM  

neongoats: stonicus: Kim is like someone who plays the single player version of an FPS on easy level, then thinks he is going to dominate in actual on-line multiplayer situations.

You mean RTS.. I mean, they are Korean after all.


egamer.co.za
 
2013-04-09 03:20:38 PM  

Infernalist: EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?

To be fair, those RREs are way way way out of reach right now.  NK mines only operate at about 30% capacity out of safety concerns.  They're obscenely outdated and in need of serious repair.  To get at those RREs in any real capacity would take a massive overhaul of existing infrastructure and modernization of their mining equipment.

A serious serious investment that would only pay off in a decade or so, if that.


So the next war will be over rocks instead of oil.

/I guess this is the logical option. First it was religion, now it's resources.
 
2013-04-09 03:20:48 PM  

digistil: probesport: Well, it's currently Wednesday in NK.


Its 4:20 am in North Korea. Spark it up!
 
2013-04-09 03:21:34 PM  
In related news, the U.S. annonunces a rest of its missile intercept system on Wednesday
 
2013-04-09 03:21:40 PM  

whistleridge: akula: whistleridge: Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

You're assuming they can actually tip that super long range three stage TD2 missile with a functional nuclear weapon. And that everything works.

I doubt the missile actually has that range, could hit anything accurately (even within a CEP of a few miles) at that range), would actually work as expected, and I REALLY doubt they have a nuclear weapon they can put on the top of the thing. It's one thing to build an atomic bomb. It's another to get the packaging down to a size where it fits on a rocket and is actually deliverable by ICBM.

The only evidence I've seen or heard of (not that I've seen a ton) that they actually have such a warhead is NK's own hyperbolic statements. At this point I'd trust a used car dealer to give me a reliable vehicle at a great price more than I would Kim Jong Un to accurately portray the current state of their forces.

How I can tell you didn't read the whole thread :p 

See my Boobies.


Not sure I want to see those.

You're more optimistic than I am that there won't be war. I tend to think it's unlikely, but when you get stuff all primed up and the Norks are just wild and nutty, and well, shiat can happen from something like a missile test when you've been promising to nuke everybody within reach.

NK has less ability to harm the US directly than Luxembourg current possesses. But they do have the ability to bloody SK's nose (or really piss off the Japanese). Hopefully they'll decide they've rattled their sabers enough, but one of these days they actually WILL cross the line and start something. That or implode. I'd give even money odds between those two potential scenarios playing out.
 
2013-04-09 03:21:44 PM  

digistil: Germany's reportedly allied itself with Japan, backing them up if BK so much as skeets in their direction.

It's just like old times.


North Korea farking up would be a world-unifier the likes of which has never been seen.

The US, Russians, Germans, even the Chinese would be backing Japan. You'd have NATO and the old Eastern Bloc all coming to play to curb stomp North Korea.

There would be nothing left around the 38th parallel.
 
2013-04-09 03:22:59 PM  
Obligatory

i75.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-09 03:23:27 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Infernalist: EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?

To be fair, those RREs are way way way out of reach right now.  NK mines only operate at about 30% capacity out of safety concerns.  They're obscenely outdated and in need of serious repair.  To get at those RREs in any real capacity would take a massive overhaul of existing infrastructure and modernization of their mining equipment.

A serious serious investment that would only pay off in a decade or so, if that.

So the next war will be over rocks instead of oil.

/I guess this is the logical option. First it was religion, now it's resources.


It was really always about resources. The people at the top always knew it. Religion is to get the drooling, common clay to help.
 
2013-04-09 03:23:32 PM  

EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?


I know a lot of unemployed coal miners that would go over to work for a 6 month rotation if displace Little Kim.
 
2013-04-09 03:23:41 PM  

Richard C Stanford: I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.


I would pay to see that movie.
 
2013-04-09 03:24:22 PM  

The_EliteOne: namegoeshere: fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Japan shoots it down and NK calls that the agression and First Strike. Then it's on. It fits in with the theory that Lil-Un is starting shiat on purpose to lose and eventually be fed and rebuilt. Or he's just bat shiat insane.

I'd guess he's insane. Lived a life of privilege? Check. Never exposed to reality? Check. Got everything/got away with anything he ever wanted? Probably. Spoiled? Oh most certainly.


Somebody probably gave him a hacked version of Civ2. He's already conquered the world 5000x. Why not bring it into the real world.

//My Phalanx pwned yer tank, lol
 
2013-04-09 03:24:40 PM  

MrBigglesworth: The poor Pacific ocean.  NK has a great record of beating up the Ocean with failed launches.  Why are there no environmental protests against NK for their attacks on the Pacific?


Nah, all the environmentalists support North Korea.
 
2013-04-09 03:24:47 PM  

Sword and Shield: North Korea farking up would be a world-unifier the likes of which has never been seen.

The US, Russians, Germans, even the Chinese would be backing Japan. You'd have NATO and the old Eastern Bloc all coming to play to curb stomp North Korea.


Hmm...you'd think the regime is aware that they're now pissing off everyone. Any possible outcome should be considered on the table, even a Jim Jones-esque "welp, I've managed to kill a congressman, we're farked now. Here kids, drink this".
 
2013-04-09 03:24:58 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Gosling: KarmicDisaster: If they do shoot a missile over Japan, the trajectory probably won't allow current systems to shoot it down, it will be near apogee when it passes over won't it? Unless it malfunctions and part of hit hits Japan, oops, then all hell will break loose.

Japan ain't going to give a good goddamn about apogee. If it enters Japanese airspace, they're going to flip their shiat.

Oh, yeah they will, but like I said, a Patriot battery or anything else Japan possesses won't be able to shoot it down, it will be out of the envelope.  US anti-missle picket ship might have a chance depending.


I'm certainly not the expert on this stuff but Japan does have Aegis-equipped ships that have SM-3s.  Apparently, one of these has been used to shoot down a ballistic missile.
 
2013-04-09 03:25:24 PM  

kumanoki: "It's an entirely different type of dong altogether."


It's an entirely different type of dong.
 
2013-04-09 03:25:31 PM  
Funny how our American Troops were treated in Chosun, and yet we can all get together now as allies and do the Ganham style dance, while over in the middle east, those primitive humanoids cannot reconcile differences over a thousand years old.
/just sayin'
 
2013-04-09 03:25:35 PM  

Fark France: I believe THAAD is actually in place already. Along with some weird little floating radar buoy box we put out in the Pacific. Some people have speculated that this means we've moved a solid portion of our B-2 fleet to Guam, as many people in Missouri reported seeing a squadron fly towards the west coast a few days back. Missouri and Guam are the only bases where these bombers can be flown out of. NK's main weapon is its artillery.


THAAD is kinda/sorta in place. Its range is limited, so where it goes is a function of where we think the shots are mostly likely to happen, and the Nork missiles are moveable. We're in the optimal part of the launch probability zone for sure. But if they decided to go for broke and launch north over Russia, THAAD wouldn't do us much good in the Sea of Japan, hm?

North Korea's army is built for defense, not offense. They can't go south for sure, but equally going north would be a bloodbath.
 
2013-04-09 03:25:50 PM  

fireclown: Richard C Stanford: I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.

I would pay to see that movie.


Presented by Samuel L. Bronkowitz
 
2013-04-09 03:26:06 PM  

GalFriday: I know a lot of unemployed coal miners that would go over to work for a 6 month rotation if displace Little Kim.


img30.imagehaven.net
I'd have displaced it, back in the day.
 
2013-04-09 03:26:25 PM  
Fark France:
I believe THAAD is actually in place already. Along with some weird little floating radar buoy box we put out in the Pacific. Some people have speculated that this means we've moved a solid portion of our B-2 fleet to Guam, as many people in Missouri reported seeing a squadron fly towards the west coast a few days back.

A friend of mine showed me a pic of B2's parked en-masse on the tarmac at Nellis a little over a week ago.  I would say there's a good chance they are in theater by now.
 
2013-04-09 03:26:49 PM  

fat boy: PreMortem: Should shoot it down as soon as it's over the Sea of Japan. Considering they've publicly stated that their intention is to nuke the US.

You know who else got shot down over the Sea of Japan?


encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-09 03:26:56 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: We can't go in and rebuild and turn them into a thriving economy based on agriculture or business.  They have shiat for natural resources.


That's no attitude to have. Japan has poor natural resources, but has a pretty decent arrangement if 3rd ranked economy in the world is any indicator.
 
2013-04-09 03:27:17 PM  

fireclown: Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean? Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?


Korean is actually called Hangungmal, and "Taepo Dong" is literally "watery place".  Dong is 'place' used commonly as we use -town on the end of place names.
 
2013-04-09 03:27:28 PM  
It's already Wednesday there.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:02 PM  

kumanoki: Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?

"It's an entirely different type of dong altogether."


They should call it the Giantdick Hammerpenis 4000.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:09 PM  
WHAT IS DENNIS RODMAN DOING ABOUT THIS?   HE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!  I BLAME DENNIS RODMAN FOR THIS ENTIRE SITUATION.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:24 PM  

fireclown: Richard C Stanford: I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.

I would pay to see that movie.


He is the Chuck Norris of Russia.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:25 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


I'll take some that action.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:42 PM  

I_C_Weener: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

Or if it went over Russian territory.  I'm not sure how Putin would respond....oh, yes, I am.


I think NK launching a missile backward is as amusing as the next guy, but I can't seriously believe that their tech is so bad that they could fail to launch their missiles at least in a generally Easterly direction.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:47 PM  
I've been following the best korea threads (and ty, as always to you witty farkers) and it's like a soap opera with the speculation and drama escalation

Out of concern for the people of best korea who apparently hate the US due to endless propaganda, who don't have enough to eat, who are guilty of nothing more than geographic accident of birth, I have begun to pray they don't have to go through some of the scenarios posted here (and in earlier threads)

Being a godless american, I doubt prayer helps but I really, really don't want the "best case NK will last mere hours due to military overpowerment" for people doing nothing but walking around in their homeland.
 
2013-04-09 03:28:49 PM  
You know, the third week of April is the worst week on the calender. Hitler's birthday, Columbine, WTC bombing, Oklahoma City, BP oil spill started, Waco. Now we're looking at a full scale war by then. Makes me want to hide the whole week.
 
2013-04-09 03:29:08 PM  
I am more excited to talk to verified ladies.
pagead2.googlesyndication.com
 
2013-04-09 03:29:24 PM  

DougTaupe: A friend of mine showed me a pic of B2's parked en-masse on the tarmac at Nellis a little over a week ago. I would say there's a good chance they are in theater by now.


A better question is:
What carriers, attack subs, and boomers are out at sea now and do we even have confirmed locations on any of them.

I imagine there's a LOT of subs out in the Sea of Japan right now.  Question is, how many carrier groups are in the area?
 
2013-04-09 03:29:34 PM  
fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net
 
2013-04-09 03:30:46 PM  

Shazam999: [fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net image 600x720]


Mongler?
 
2013-04-09 03:30:57 PM  

Unoriginal_Username: Infernalist: EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?

To be fair, those RREs are way way way out of reach right now.  NK mines only operate at about 30% capacity out of safety concerns.  They're obscenely outdated and in need of serious repair.  To get at those RREs in any real capacity would take a massive overhaul of existing infrastructure and modernization of their mining equipment.

A serious serious investment that would only pay off in a decade or so, if that.

So the next war will be over rocks instead of oil.

/I guess this is the logical option. First it was religion, now it's resources.


If it's resources, why did we forget to loot Iraq for oil before we left?
 
2013-04-09 03:31:20 PM  
akula: Not sure I want to see those.

Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made. 

You're more optimistic than I am that there won't be war. I tend to think it's unlikely, but when you get stuff all primed up and the Norks are just wild and nutty, and well, shiat can happen from something like a missile test when you've been promising to nuke everybody within reach.

NK has a long and glorious history of talking big and playing small. They haven't fought a meaningful action since the 1950s. Their equipment is outdated. They're on the edge of a famine, they have untested leadership, and they have to know our military is both veteran and technologically superior. They're like a kid who talks about how he will CUT YOU, but won't do more than chest bump unless he knows his big brother will have his back.

NK has less ability to harm the US directly than Luxembourg current possesses. But they do have the ability to bloody SK's nose (or really piss off the Japanese). Hopefully they'll decide they've rattled their sabers enough, but one of these days they actually WILL cross the line and start something. That or implode. I'd give even money odds between those two potential scenarios playing out.

My bet is on implosion. NK is like the monkey with its hand in the cookie jar for China: they would love to replace them with a more viable ally, but can't without force, which NK has enough nukes to deter. But of course, when they DO implode, those nukes may well come into play anyway. 

And so we're stuck with a pariah state, biding our time and hoping an opportunity eventually comes up that allows us to lower the pressure without anything stupid happening...
 
2013-04-09 03:31:38 PM  
NK is the 5yr old child that is threatening to run away to crazyville. They keep looking back with each step down the driveway hoping someone will run out and offer them anything if they just come inside.
 
2013-04-09 03:32:42 PM  

whistleridge: Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.


This is just getting funnier and funnier.
 
2013-04-09 03:32:42 PM  

texdent: kumanoki: "It's an entirely different type of dong altogether."

It's an entirely different type of dong.


media.nola.com
 
2013-04-09 03:32:45 PM  

GalFriday: WHAT IS DENNIS RODMAN DOING ABOUT THIS?   HE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!  I BLAME DENNIS RODMAN FOR THIS ENTIRE SITUATION.


He's visiting the Pope.
 
2013-04-09 03:33:13 PM  

whistleridge: Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.


Okay, now I'm very intrigued.
 
2013-04-09 03:33:19 PM  

neongoats: You mean RTS.. I mean, they are Korean after all.


You might be on to something here. The new chapter of Starcraft II just came out and it is focused on the Zerg. Maybe he is getting confused between the game and the real world and he is thinking he can rush Seoul with his zerglings ground troops!
 
2013-04-09 03:33:46 PM  
I think we should take that 'ray' we used to give Hugo cancer and use it on  that fatty piece of spunk 'ruling' N.Korea.What a fat,greezy turd he is.
 
2013-04-09 03:33:51 PM  

parasol: I've been following the best korea threads (and ty, as always to you witty farkers) and it's like a soap opera with the speculation and drama escalation

Out of concern for the people of best korea who apparently hate the US due to endless propaganda, who don't have enough to eat, who are guilty of nothing more than geographic accident of birth, I have begun to pray they don't have to go through some of the scenarios posted here (and in earlier threads)

Being a godless american, I doubt prayer helps but I really, really don't want the "best case NK will last mere hours due to military overpowerment" for people doing nothing but walking around in their homeland.


They're better off than us. I'm just hoping to get my yummy bird and heroin ration today. Glorious Leader should liberate us from the capitalist pigs or at least send more tents to the Red Cross, as mine blew away. Plus the snow is gone, so I can't get anymore snow coffee. Times will be tough again 'round these parts.
 
2013-04-09 03:34:18 PM  

whistleridge: ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.


huh? You think everything at any one of those companies is truly based out of that location and/or couldn't be blown up and continue functioning as normal within days?   hint: it's pretty likely.
 
2013-04-09 03:35:18 PM  

probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY


what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.
 
2013-04-09 03:35:21 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I imagine there's a LOT of subs out in the Sea of Japan right now. Question is, how many carrier groups are in the area?


There are three in the immediate area.  CVNs 68, 73 & 74
 
2013-04-09 03:35:44 PM  

whistleridge: akula: Not sure I want to see those.

Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-09 03:36:13 PM  

I_C_Weener: fireclown: Richard C Stanford: I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.

I would pay to see that movie.

He is the Chuck Norris of Russia.

www.rtve.es
Never cal Vlad anything but the Putin of "noun"
 
2013-04-09 03:36:50 PM  

Rev.K: AdolfOliverPanties: I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.

Really? Where in Hawaii?

As a Canadian stuck in the frozen north, I dream of moving to Hawaii. I've looked at jobs there a few times, but it's hard for a Canadian to get hired...at least in government work.

/sigh
//threadjack


Either Maui or Kailua Kona on the Big Island.  Not interested in the bustle of Honolulu, even though I am in SoCal, so the bustle would still seem tame by comparison.  Looking to slow down and enjoy life.
 
2013-04-09 03:37:00 PM  
All this thread has done is make me want to watch M*A*S*H again...
 
2013-04-09 03:37:21 PM  
Fark France: ".....Along with some weird little floating radar buoy box we put out in the Pacific."


Maybe the US has the Sea-Based radar positioned.   It left Pearl Harbor in early April,  but I wish someone would link to something official saying it is operating.     Actually in position.    So far everything I see is that it is 'on the way'   or  'being moved'.      It is not fast.

BMD is not cut and dried for the US or Japan.         For an IRBM,  sm-3 / PAC3 is not optimal.     My opinion is that it can do the job at a decent % rate.     But it is far from perfect.   (It's far better with the XBAND in place).

The US is very advanced in technology, as is Japan's military (they also have sm-3 / PAC3)..... but there really is nobody in the world who can demonstrate the ability to hit IRBM's at will at a high rate of accuracy.


If it would ever happen,  I think all sides will be wondering how it ends up.   ????
It's anybody guess.
 
2013-04-09 03:37:29 PM  

mizchief: Yea because we would never enter a decades long war over having a few thousand Americans killed in an attack right?


As of today we are still short about a thousand Americans dead in Afghanistan than were killed on 9/11.
 
2013-04-09 03:37:37 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


If it hits the fan, Fatty the Third can expect to be in front of the Hague for Crimes against Humanity.

All assuming they don't find little bits of him scattered around a crater made from a Predator-launched Hellfire, of course.
 
2013-04-09 03:37:46 PM  

rikkitikkitavi: Korean is actually called Hangungmal, and "Taepo Dong" is literally "watery place". Dong is 'place' used commonly as we use -town on the end of place names.


Thanks.  As a world citizen with an interest in expanding my knowledge, I thank you.  However, as a Farker, I shall now continue making dong jokes.

/srsly, thanks.
 
2013-04-09 03:37:49 PM  
i.imgur.com
Japan will never see them coming.
 
2013-04-09 03:38:17 PM  

probesport: Shazam999: [fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net image 600x720]

Mongler?


It's from 4chan.  Best not to ask questions.
 
2013-04-09 03:38:34 PM  

Sword and Shield: digistil: Germany's reportedly allied itself with Japan, backing them up if BK so much as skeets in their direction.

It's just like old times.

North Korea farking up would be a world-unifier the likes of which has never been seen.

The US, Russians, Germans, even the Chinese would be backing Japan. You'd have NATO and the old Eastern Bloc all coming to play to curb stomp North Korea.

There would be nothing left around the 38th parallel.


Sweet!

www.90smovies.net
 
2013-04-09 03:39:31 PM  

Intelligent_Donkey: All this thread has done is make me want to watch M*A*S*H again...


A few Christmases ago my wife got me the entire box set. All 11 seasons, the movie, plus two discs of extras. Probably the best xmas present I recall getting in recent years. Plus you don't get the syndication cutouts you get watching it on fox or hallmark or whoever the hell owns it these days.
 
2013-04-09 03:39:32 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 850x479]
Japan will never see them coming.


She wouldn't see me coming either.  Mainly due to having a bag over her head and/or it from behind.
 
2013-04-09 03:39:54 PM  

Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....


When I read comments like these I can't help but be amaze but disturbed at the same time by the deep seated hatred of Asian people by the typical 'white' American.
 
2013-04-09 03:40:15 PM  
I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.
 
2013-04-09 03:40:19 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Either Maui


Goodness, I read that as "Mali" and thought "um, I'd wait a bit to make sure the French have cleared the Islamists out..."
 
2013-04-09 03:40:57 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.


I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.
 
2013-04-09 03:41:01 PM  

texdent: GalFriday: WHAT IS DENNIS RODMAN DOING ABOUT THIS?   HE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!  I BLAME DENNIS RODMAN FOR THIS ENTIRE SITUATION.

He's visiting the Pope.


So you're saying we can expect the Vatican to declare war on us?
 
2013-04-09 03:41:18 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

When I read comments like these I can't help but be amaze but disturbed at the same time by the deep seated hatred of Asian people by the typical 'white' American.


Hatred?  I LOVE me some asian schoolgirls!!!!
 
2013-04-09 03:42:08 PM  

Killer Cars: whistleridge: Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.

Okay, now I'm very intrigued.


In other news, even some original spellings of the words that rhyme with 'wurst host' get filtered :p
 
2013-04-09 03:43:18 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

When I read comments like these I can't help but be amaze but disturbed at the same time by the deep seated hatred of Asian people by the typical 'white' American.


To Snotnoses' defense, I think he was alluding to the spectacle of China stepping in to handle this nonsense.  Which I would kind of like to see.  The six way talks have to provide SOMETHING of use some day, and as an American I don't really want the US to be any more involved in this mess than we already are.
 
2013-04-09 03:43:35 PM  

fireclown: Richard C Stanford: I think Putin would run shirtless, drunk, and screaming through Best Korea, punching everything in his way.

I would pay to see that movie.


+1

I laughed AND clapped for this idea at my desk. In a cube farm. Surely, if they were confused by my insanity before, my coworkers are certain I'm nuts now.
 
2013-04-09 03:44:00 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.


I love you, John Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion.
 
2013-04-09 03:44:17 PM  

EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?


I was gonna say something similar.

Last I knew, one of the biggest drivers of trying to reunify or at least deescalate was the resources NK hasn't bothered exploiting.
 
2013-04-09 03:44:52 PM  

nekom: Intelligent_Donkey: All this thread has done is make me want to watch M*A*S*H again...

A few Christmases ago my wife got me the entire box set. All 11 seasons, the movie, plus two discs of extras. Probably the best xmas present I recall getting in recent years. Plus you don't get the syndication cutouts you get watching it on fox or hallmark or whoever the hell owns it these days.


I'm jealous.

One of the best gifts I've been given was the Definitive Collection for The Twilight Zone. No cuts, includes the episodes that weren't in syndication, all the intros and outros, all the other bits.

M*A*S*H* is next on the list.
 
2013-04-09 03:44:58 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Rev.K: AdolfOliverPanties: I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.

Really? Where in Hawaii?

As a Canadian stuck in the frozen north, I dream of moving to Hawaii. I've looked at jobs there a few times, but it's hard for a Canadian to get hired...at least in government work.

/sigh
//threadjack

Either Maui or Kailua Kona on the Big Island.  Not interested in the bustle of Honolulu, even though I am in SoCal, so the bustle would still seem tame by comparison.  Looking to slow down and enjoy life.


Not sure they have missles which could reach here from there.

Why only government work?  Kauai is beautiful.  Eastside of Oahu is not like Honolulu, but is more expensiveas far as housing goes.
 
2013-04-09 03:45:11 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.


Laugh while you can monkey-boy!
 
2013-04-09 03:47:00 PM  

stonicus: SuperNinjaToad: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

When I read comments like these I can't help but be amaze but disturbed at the same time by the deep seated hatred of Asian people by the typical 'white' American.

Hatred?  I LOVE me some asian schoolgirls!!!!


10-ridiculously-offensive-things-peop l e-tell-asian-women-on-OK-Cupid
 
2013-04-09 03:47:37 PM  
s13.postimg.org
 
2013-04-09 03:47:56 PM  
dear china. please nuke NK. add it to our tab.
 
2013-04-09 03:48:01 PM  

Dog Welder: texdent: GalFriday: WHAT IS DENNIS RODMAN DOING ABOUT THIS?   HE SHOULD BE DOING SOMETHING TO STOP THIS!  I BLAME DENNIS RODMAN FOR THIS ENTIRE SITUATION.

He's visiting the Pope.

So you're saying we can expect the Vatican to declare war on us?


As a woman, I already feel like the Vatican has declared war on me...

/or something feministish.
//you fill in the blanks, make it sound man-haterlike.
///I'm recovering from a migraine, that's my excuse.
 
2013-04-09 03:48:21 PM  
Has any NK missile test actually hit the target it was aimed at? IIRC our first generation ICBM's were very inaccurate. If they actually fire a missile at Guam or Hawaii I'm not so sure they could hit the island.

/would be suicide for them if they tried it
//nuclear or non-nuclear, wouldn't matter
 
2013-04-09 03:48:24 PM  
IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.
 
2013-04-09 03:49:35 PM  

EatHam: AdolfOliverPanties: They have shiat for natural resources.

Really?


The North Section of Korea was considered the wealthy part prior to the split.  It was all heavy industry becasue that was where the mineral wealth of the region was.

Southern Korea only had agriculture when the country split.
 
2013-04-09 03:51:05 PM  

netcentric: Fark France: ".....Along with some weird little floating radar buoy box we put out in the Pacific."


Maybe the US has the Sea-Based radar positioned.   It left Pearl Harbor in early April,  but I wish someone would link to something official saying it is operating.     Actually in position.    So far everything I see is that it is 'on the way'   or  'being moved'.      It is not fast.

BMD is not cut and dried for the US or Japan.         For an IRBM,  sm-3 / PAC3 is not optimal.     My opinion is that it can do the job at a decent % rate.     But it is far from perfect.   (It's far better with the XBAND in place).

The US is very advanced in technology, as is Japan's military (they also have sm-3 / PAC3)..... but there really is nobody in the world who can demonstrate the ability to hit IRBM's at will at a high rate of accuracy.


If it would ever happen,  I think all sides will be wondering how it ends up.   ????
It's anybody guess.


That's what it is. X-Band. I remembered it as that weird looking ball deal. Here's a news story that says we've moved it.

http://news.yahoo.com/u-deploys-sea-based-x-band-radar-pacific-20250 04 69.html
 
2013-04-09 03:51:11 PM  

Oldiron_79: IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.


In the highly unlikely event of things going that far, you can be pretty sure that the other ICBM capable countries would get a heads up prior to launch.
 
2013-04-09 03:51:39 PM  

Fark France: I believe THAAD is actually in place already.


It is. The USS Antietam (CG-54) got to Japan a few months ago and is equipped for it.
 
2013-04-09 03:52:40 PM  

Hack Patooey: whistleridge: akula: Not sure I want to see those.

Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 445x296]


Damn you! I was going to post that.
 
2013-04-09 03:52:51 PM  

whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.

I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.


I totally understand what you mean, and I understand and agree wholly. I was asking what's his face why he thought changing SV to China is worse.

FYI I work at one of the companies you mentioned. and I also have a very good idea how the design -> test -> fab -> manf. -> product flow works. No part of his "fixing" made sense.
 
2013-04-09 03:53:23 PM  

fireclown: SuperNinjaToad: Snotnose: I for one think it would be most appropriate if the missile goes off course and ends up in a Chinese city.

/ may you live in interesting times
// would stock up on popcorn
/// speaking of chinese takeout....

When I read comments like these I can't help but be amaze but disturbed at the same time by the deep seated hatred of Asian people by the typical 'white' American.

To Snotnoses' defense, I think he was alluding to the spectacle of China stepping in to handle this nonsense.  Which I would kind of like to see.  The six way talks have to provide SOMETHING of use some day, and as an American I don't really want the US to be any more involved in this mess than we already are.


Agreed.  But, I think what Snotnose should have said was:

Phase 1. NK launches fully armed nuke.
Phase 2. Navigation goes crazy.
Phase 3. Detonates in an uninhabited area of Siberia.
Phase 4. Sit back with popcorn
Phase 5. ?
Phase 6. Profit.
 
2013-04-09 03:53:27 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-09 03:53:58 PM  

Infernalist: whistleridge: Why We Will Not Go To War With North Korea:


[SNIP Interesting stuff]

Whatever's going on in NK, it's managed to put China on the same side as Japan.
No matter what else goes down, 'that' deserves to be noticed and remarked upon.


Well, Saddam Hussein managed to unite the USSR and the USA (though, to be fair, this was post-Soviet Russia).

But, yeah:  when you put it that way, the uniting of two age-old mortal enemies is a mark of how crazy dangerous
Lil' Kim has managed to become.
 
2013-04-09 03:54:04 PM  

AFJuvat1: In the highly unlikely event of things going that far, you can be pretty sure that the other ICBM capable countries would get a heads up prior to launch.


Hell, there should be a top secret Skype meeting running 24/7 on this mess.  A senior diplomat from each of  the concerned countries just hanging out, ready to drop some information as it happens.  No reason not to, as nobody wants this to go full retard.
 
2013-04-09 03:54:51 PM  

netcentric: Maybe the US has the Sea-Based radar positioned.   It left Pearl Harbor in early April,  but I wish someone would link to something official saying it is operating.     Actually in position.    So far everything I see is that it is 'on the way'   or  'being moved'.      It is not fast.


Good plan, tell every journalist about the planned military movements. North Korea would never attack before these scheduled movements.
 
2013-04-09 03:55:12 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.


Kim Jong Bootey?
 
2013-04-09 03:56:07 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.

I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.

I totally understand what you mean, and I understand and agree wholly. I was asking what's his face why he thought changing SV to China is worse.

FYI I work at one of the companies you mentioned. and I also have a very good idea how the design -> test -> fab -> manf. -> product flow works. No part of his "fixing" made sense.


Apologies. I was very much in 'what about that doesn't make obvious sense' mode. :p
 
2013-04-09 03:56:48 PM  

Oldiron_79: IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.


That is actually a very intelligent statement because IRL preemptive or counter strikes by opposing force is done at the moment of launch and not after the weapon has landed.

During the first couple hundreds miles of missile launch, it's trajectory at that time is still impossible to accurately predict where it would land other than just the general area.

If we launch at NK, there is NO WAY China or Russia can tell where the missile would land other than knowing it is headed in that general direction especially before MIRVs released and for sure they will send retaliatory missile strikes on the continental US. Also unlike NK, theirs can actually reach our cities..
 
2013-04-09 03:57:19 PM  

whistleridge: See my Boobies.


[nelson_haha.jpg]
 
2013-04-09 03:57:39 PM  

Bendimus_Prime: Agreed. But, I think what Snotnose should have said was:

Phase 1. NK launches fully armed nuke.
Phase 2. Navigation goes crazy.
Phase 3. Detonates in an uninhabited area of Siberia.
Phase 4. Sit back with popcorn
Phase 5. ?
Phase 6. Profit.


WHAT?  Have the people of Tunguska not suffered enough!?!?!
 
2013-04-09 03:57:53 PM  

LoneCoon: You know, the third week of April is the worst week on the calender. Hitler's birthday, Columbine, WTC bombing, Oklahoma City, BP oil spill started, Waco. Now we're looking at a full scale war by then. Makes me want to hide the whole week.


You never heard of the Ides of March.? You are supposed to beware them.
 
2013-04-09 03:58:30 PM  

whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.

I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.

I totally understand what you mean, and I understand and agree wholly. I was asking what's his face why he thought changing SV to China is worse.

FYI I work at one of the companies you mentioned. and I also have a very good idea how the design -> test -> fab -> manf. -> product flow works. No part of his "fixing" made sense.

Apologies. I was very much in 'what about that doesn't make obvious sense' mode. :p


No problem.  I mean.... if for some reason they attacked China, they STILL don't hit fab (which is practically ALL done at TSMC) they only set back manf for like 6 months until they rebuild in a new place.  How on earth would NK bombing China set back Tech 20-30 years? It's a retarded thing to say.
 
2013-04-09 03:59:06 PM  

jaybeezey: Kim Jong Bootey?


24.media.tumblr.com
Boo-TAY!  TAY!
 
2013-04-09 03:59:57 PM  

torusXL: Good plan, tell every journalist about the planned military movements. North Korea would never attack before these scheduled movements.


The point of broadcasting our movements is very much counter to DPRK's rhetoric. It's our way of tangibly countering every blustery threat they make.

There's also a bunch of moves we -aren't- broadcasting, too (like B-1 and B-2 rebasings)
 
2013-04-09 04:00:01 PM  

nekom: Given that they have actively THREATENED nuclear war, Japan has absolutely every right to shoot down any missile coming from there.  I rather doubt Japan would do anything else, but they certainly have made it clear that they absolutely do intend to do so.  Patriot missile batteries deployed in Tokyo.  They have to protect their own population, any nation would do the same.


I'd think, though I might be wrong, that putting them somewhere in Hokkaido might be better than somewhere in Tokyo. Though they might do even more better if they simply dropped several tons of nekomimi and shoujo pantsu on Pyongyang. Follow that up with a rain of Pocky and blast some J-Pop at them. They would either convert, go crazy, or both.

The greatest deterrent that North Korea has is itself. No one really wants to win against them because that would mean you get possession of a shiathole country that needs a ton of rebuilding work... and that's even before you consider the war damage. I doubt that even South Korea would want it even if it meant unification, the necessary resources would likely bankrupt them. The only real hope is a coup that puts in semi-coherent leadership that moves the country in a saner and more democratic direction. If that happened, a number of countries would likely help them thru several UN assistance programs.

But all that is moot as long as the Kim family remains in charge.
 
2013-04-09 04:00:19 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 590x393]


Guy on the left......

omgface.com
 
2013-04-09 04:00:41 PM  
You gonna get raped, fat boy,
Fat boy, wait til tomorrow.
 
2013-04-09 04:01:01 PM  

Rembrant_Q_Einstein: LoneCoon: You know, the third week of April is the worst week on the calender. Hitler's birthday, Columbine, WTC bombing, Oklahoma City, BP oil spill started, Waco. Now we're looking at a full scale war by then. Makes me want to hide the whole week.

You never heard of the Ides of March.? You are supposed to beware them.



the other Ides to beware...

beeradvocate.com

//hizot lizinkt
 
2013-04-09 04:01:39 PM  
Just a little bit, I would miss having North Korea around it its current state. It's such a fascinating place, even in a morbid sense. Maybe someone will come up with a theme park based on a cold war throwback police state?
 
2013-04-09 04:03:29 PM  

The Bestest: torusXL: Good plan, tell every journalist about the planned military movements. North Korea would never attack before these scheduled movements.

The point of broadcasting our movements is very much counter to DPRK's rhetoric. It's our way of tangibly countering every blustery threat they make.

There's also a bunch of moves we -aren't- broadcasting, too (like B-1 and B-2 rebasings)


Yeah but we want them to think that we think that they think that we think that they think that we think that they think that we're moving our ships to Easter Island to use the Easter Island heads as target practice for the giant ship cannons. That way, North Korea will think they're safe and archaeologists will scream in outrage and everyone will be confused.

Don't ruin the grand plan, man.
 
2013-04-09 04:03:56 PM  

whistleridge: ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means.

Fine.

Here:

And here:

And here:

The point is: Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco, and LA are all in the 'maybe...if everything goes right' range. 

Also, Alaska and Hawaii are very much part of the US.
 
Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.


Loose lips....
 
2013-04-09 04:04:11 PM  
OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

www.igorstshirts.com
 
2013-04-09 04:04:12 PM  

jaybeezey: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.

Kim Jong Bootey?


Kim Jong Big Bootey!

/no matter where ya go...
//there ya are
 
2013-04-09 04:04:58 PM  

fireclown: Bendimus_Prime: Agreed. But, I think what Snotnose should have said was:

Phase 1. NK launches fully armed nuke.
Phase 2. Navigation goes crazy.
Phase 3. Detonates in an uninhabited area of Siberia.
Phase 4. Sit back with popcorn
Phase 5. ?
Phase 6. Profit.

WHAT?  Have the people of Tunguska not suffered enough!?!?!


Not if we want this scenario to end with a shirtless Putin riding a bear into Un's castle and killing him with a lance. Sacrifices must be made.
 
2013-04-09 04:04:59 PM  
[Breaking news update at 3:56 p.m. Tuesday]

The Obama administration calculates it is likely North Korea may test fire mobile ballistic missiles at any time based on the most recent intelligence showing it is likely Pyongyang has completed launch preparations, a U.S. official said.
 
2013-04-09 04:05:07 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Oldiron_79: IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.

That is actually a very intelligent statement because IRL preemptive or counter strikes by opposing force is done at the moment of launch and not after the weapon has landed.

During the first couple hundreds miles of missile launch, it's trajectory at that time is still impossible to accurately predict where it would land other than just the general area.

If we launch at NK, there is NO WAY China or Russia can tell where the missile would land other than knowing it is headed in that general direction especially before MIRVs released and for sure they will send retaliatory missile strikes on the continental US. Also unlike NK, theirs can actually reach our cities..


Yup. Also unless I am trolling my statements are usually intellegent. If you see something retarded coming from me Im trolling.
 
2013-04-09 04:06:20 PM  
 
2013-04-09 04:06:29 PM  

Oldiron_79: IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.


There hasn't been any real chance that the US would use nuclear weapons for anything other than retaliation against a nuclear attack from the Soviet Union since at least the late 1960's. And Obama is probably the most anti-nuclear President that we've ever had. More importantly it's VERY unlikely that this will become a shooting war, even if N. Korea launches a missile over Japan(unlikely) the Japanese will shoot it down and the world will continue very much the same as it did yesterday.
 
2013-04-09 04:07:38 PM  

antron: [i46.tinypic.com image 597x402]


love it.  hadn't seen this meme until the confession bear story broke.  definitely remember this episode of SP, though.
 
2013-04-09 04:07:56 PM  
Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.
 
2013-04-09 04:08:36 PM  
whistleridge

and that doesn't even touch upon the fact a friggin' Million people live in San Jose alone. Though... I can see the upside of Obliterating Stanfurd.

\GrrrrrrRAH!
 
2013-04-09 04:11:04 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

[www.igorstshirts.com image 810x608]


bd77.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-09 04:11:55 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 590x393]


[bright green camo in brown field]

Somebody might want to let those guys know we can totally see them.
 
2013-04-09 04:12:36 PM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.

I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.

I totally understand what you mean, and I understand and agree wholly. I was asking what's his face why he thought changing SV to China is worse.

FYI I work at one of the companies you mentioned. and I also have a very good idea how the design -> test -> fab -> manf. -> product flow works. No part of his "fixing" made sense.

Apologies. I was very much in 'what about that doesn't make obvious sense' mode. :p

No problem.  I mean.... if for some reason they attacked China, they STILL don't hit fab (which is practically ALL done at TSMC) they only set back manf for like 6 months until they rebuild in a new place.  How on earth would NK bombing China set back Tech 20-30 years? It's a retarded thing to say.


Attacking Silicon valley wouldn't set the tech world back decades either there genius. It's not just lost to times. Hitting manufacturing and driving up prices on damn near every piece of electronics coming into the US while we are still not at the best economic times would be a bigger immediate blow.

Hurrr and/or durrr.
 
2013-04-09 04:12:40 PM  
Hopefully they do. A bit of fighting and propaganda war and we can be done with north korea and let the south koreans have a whole country again.
 
2013-04-09 04:12:49 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: Oldiron_79: IF best Korea makes us nuke them I hope we use Manned Strategic Bombers rather than ICBMs or SLCMs just so the CHICOMs or Rooskies dont have thier early warning systems go full retard and think we are launching at them.

That is actually a very intelligent statement because IRL preemptive or counter strikes by opposing force is done at the moment of launch and not after the weapon has landed.


That's for a nation that has the capability to launch hundreds or even thousands of long range missiles at the same time. That's the "Use them or lose them" strategy because the assumption is that the missile silos will be the first thing targeted in the hopes of catching them still in the ground. For the Norks and just one or two missiles that can't reach the missile silos a stealth bomber would be more appropriate.

SLBM's are for second strikes in an attempt to catch people trying to dig out of the rubble of their cities (and to make it so that no matter what there will be missiles available even if there was somehow a successful first strike that took out all of our land and bomber based weapons).
 
2013-04-09 04:13:03 PM  
 
2013-04-09 04:13:26 PM  

Dinobot: Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.


nice!

you forgot Voltron
 
2013-04-09 04:13:27 PM  

stuhayes2010: I am more excited to talk to verified ladies.
[pagead2.googlesyndication.com image 250x250]


"Ladies" from Thailand

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-09 04:14:24 PM  

Dinobot: Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.


Don't forget Sailor Moon, Sunfire, Big Hero 6, and a few others.
 
2013-04-09 04:15:51 PM  

Freakin Rican: Dinobot: Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.

nice!

you forgot Voltron


texdent: Dinobot: Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.

Don't forget Sailor Moon, Sunfire, Big Hero 6, and a few others.


Megaman too. He might be able to defeat Nuke Man and gain nuke powers.
 
2013-04-09 04:15:58 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-09 04:16:00 PM  

triptheory: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I wish he and the rest of the Red Lectroids would just go back to Planet Ten already.

Laugh while you can monkey-boy!


Why is there a watermelon there?
 
2013-04-09 04:16:44 PM  

probesport: Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: whistleridge: Uchiha_Cycliste: probesport: whistleridge: Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley China. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

FTFY

what does this even mean?
 you think hitting fab and manufacturing will be a huge tech setback? that's retarded.

I'm talking about the actual people: the designers, the innovators, the minds that make up those companies that make up such a large chunk of our economy. In real world terms, no...those companies aren't a huge blow. But in terms of psychological and market impact...it would be devastating.

I totally understand what you mean, and I understand and agree wholly. I was asking what's his face why he thought changing SV to China is worse.

FYI I work at one of the companies you mentioned. and I also have a very good idea how the design -> test -> fab -> manf. -> product flow works. No part of his "fixing" made sense.

Apologies. I was very much in 'what about that doesn't make obvious sense' mode. :p

No problem.  I mean.... if for some reason they attacked China, they STILL don't hit fab (which is practically ALL done at TSMC) they only set back manf for like 6 months until they rebuild in a new place.  How on earth would NK bombing China set back Tech 20-30 years? It's a retarded thing to say.

Attacking Silicon valley wouldn't set the tech world back decades either there genius. It's not just lost to times. Hitting manufacturing and driving up prices on damn near every piece of electronics coming into the US while we are still not at the best economic times would be a bigger immediate blow.

Hurrr and/or durrr.


sigh. herp and derp indeed.
 
2013-04-09 04:18:36 PM  
t.qkme.me
 
2013-04-09 04:21:02 PM  
What could be terrible is if bad luck strikes! I mean NK may genuinely launch a missile for testing purposes safely exploding into the deep waters of the Pacific but it's not out of this world crazy if the rocket engine fails or doesn't burn like intended and the missile falls and strikes Japan.

It is not too uncommon for missiles or rockets of any kind to fall short of their intended landing site due to engine malfunction or fuel problems.
 
2013-04-09 04:23:57 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: If we launch at NK, there is NO WAY China or Russia can tell where the missile would land other than knowing it is headed in that general direction especially before MIRVs released and for sure they will send retaliatory missile strikes on the continental US. Also unlike NK, theirs can actually reach our cities..


This is why subs full of SLCM's are lurking off North Korea's West coast, so the flight paths will be away from China or Russia.
 
2013-04-09 04:24:59 PM  

SuperNinjaToad: It is not too uncommon for missiles or rockets of any kind to fall short of their intended landing site due to engine malfunction or fuel problems.


That's what she said.
 
2013-04-09 04:26:10 PM  

Ego edo infantia cattus: DjangoStonereaver: OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

[www.igorstshirts.com image 810x608]


bd77.files.wordpress.com

I was going to use a pic of a Gundam, but I was always more a Robotech fan.

Let's split the difference, and bring in every Japanese media stereotype to lighten the mood:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-04-09 04:26:22 PM  

akula: whistleridge: Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.

This is just getting funnier and funnier.


Ah yes, the boobies filter.  I have been a victim.  And yes, it does get funnier.
 
2013-04-09 04:26:31 PM  

whistleridge: akula: whistleridge: Not in terms of economic production they don't. Yeah, hitting the Alaskan oil fields or ports would put quite a dent in our oil for awhile, but it only kill a few thousand to tens of thousands, and wouldn't really do much besides that. Ditto for hitting Pearl Harbor. 

If you want to risk having your country wiped out, you want to guarandamntee you can take out a major population center like LA or Chicago, not piddle around with a secondary target. That's the whole point of MAD. They don't have it.

Although frankly, if they REALLY want to hurt the US...aim at Silicon Valley. You take out Apple, Google, Yahoo, Cisco, Oracle, and all the other brains living and working there, and you've set us back 25 - 30 years. That actually scares me more than them hitting LA.

You're assuming they can actually tip that super long range three stage TD2 missile with a functional nuclear weapon. And that everything works.

I doubt the missile actually has that range, could hit anything accurately (even within a CEP of a few miles) at that range), would actually work as expected, and I REALLY doubt they have a nuclear weapon they can put on the top of the thing. It's one thing to build an atomic bomb. It's another to get the packaging down to a size where it fits on a rocket and is actually deliverable by ICBM.

The only evidence I've seen or heard of (not that I've seen a ton) that they actually have such a warhead is NK's own hyperbolic statements. At this point I'd trust a used car dealer to give me a reliable vehicle at a great price more than I would Kim Jong Un to accurately portray the current state of their forces.

How I can tell you didn't read the whole thread :p 

See my Boobies.


Sure, EIP
 
2013-04-09 04:26:39 PM  
maybe the kid is just a

encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-09 04:26:54 PM  
www.forte.jor.br

Is it really possible to excise California and leave the rest?

/go for it
 
2013-04-09 04:27:32 PM  

GAT_00: Walker: Japan ain't gonna do sh*t. North Korea has launched missiles over them before and they didn't do sh*t.

Has Japan ever claimed they would shoot down a test missile before?


They need to shoot it down.  If anything's going to shut them up, it will be a clear and undeniable demonstration that their new 'wonder weapon' is as useless as the rest of their obsolete toys.

I'd say let the USN do it, but the demoralization will be greater if they know that even the Japanese have the ability to swat them out of the sky.
 
2013-04-09 04:27:35 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Ego edo infantia cattus: DjangoStonereaver: OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

[www.igorstshirts.com image 810x608]

[bd77.files.wordpress.com image 800x600]

I was going to use a pic of a Gundam, but I was always more a Robotech Macross fan.

Let's split the difference, and bring in every Japanese media stereotype to lighten the mood:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 668x466]


Fix'd
 
2013-04-09 04:28:18 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

[www.igorstshirts.com image 810x608]


/raises hand.
 
2013-04-09 04:28:42 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: OK, hands up who got this picture in their minds when they first heard that the Japanese were deploying a missile
defense system?

[www.igorstshirts.com image 810x608]


It flashed through my mind. Then I realized it wasn't real and was slightly disappointed before I continued reading the thread.
 
2013-04-09 04:29:13 PM  
Is this the Jingoism thread?
 
2013-04-09 04:29:48 PM  

Tony_Pepperoni: [i.imgur.com image 626x800]


Un wishes he had that kind of clout.  The thing is, he has no allies.  Nobody to make a pact with.  Nobody to assist him.  And he is in a part of the world where he is literally surrounded by superpowers or their allies.  If he was somewhere in Africa where nobody gives a fark he *might* be able to manage some territorial expansion before the rest of the world got mobilized, but even then it wouldn't be much.  As it is, *any* truely aggressive action on his part would be met with an immediate implosion of his entire country.  That's what makes his actions so damn astounding.  He has nothing to gain and absolutely everything to lose, and yet here we are.
 
2013-04-09 04:29:56 PM  

SuddenlySamhain: I think we should take that 'ray' we used to give Hugo cancer and use it on  that fatty piece of spunk 'ruling' N.Korea.What a fat,greezy turd he is.


Well, sad to say the timing is all wrong.  We just got it set up in earthquake mode and calibrated for Iran.  It's gonna take weeks to get that thing taken apart again and crated back up for shipping.

Sigh, a death ray technician's job is never done.
 
2013-04-09 04:31:30 PM  

farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 850x479]
Japan will never see them coming.


The rest of the leaves were used as a life-sustaining salad.
 
2013-04-09 04:34:16 PM  
 
2013-04-09 04:34:43 PM  

probesport: Shazam999: [fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net image 600x720]

Mongler?


Have a Snickers.  You become a grammar Nazi when you're hungry.
 
2013-04-09 04:36:58 PM  
America has been in a perpetual state of war for over a decade.

i.imgur.com

Now it's having a VERY difficult time adjusting to peace and prosperity.  Hence the fascination with saber rattling from overseas nations.  Americans need their fix.


Coincidentally, it's the same reason why Women's magazines keep lusty scandels alive via rumour and innuendo, even when none exists.  The audience NEEDS it.
 
2013-04-09 04:37:03 PM  

whistleridge: Killer Cars: whistleridge: Farking filter. I meant the Boobies that I made.

Okay, now I'm very intrigued.

In other news, even some original spellings of the words that rhyme with 'wurst host' get filtered :p


I'm sorry, I just had to check out your profile, figuring you'd have only been a member for a few months; a year tops.  <b>YOU'VE BEEN HERE NINE YEARS</b>, and it took you this long to find the shplurst shplost filter?!  That's... that's just... outstanding!

/sigh, I remember my first blurbst blosht.
 
2013-04-09 04:37:22 PM  

hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...


I wonder where they got that idea from...
 
2013-04-09 04:38:05 PM  
Meanwhile I'm still trying to do boldface fonts the way WE did it nine years ago.

We're all just big, dumb idiots!
 
2013-04-09 04:39:14 PM  

StrangeQ: Tony_Pepperoni: [i.imgur.com image 626x800]

Un wishes he had that kind of clout.  The thing is, he has no allies.  Nobody to make a pact with.  Nobody to assist him.  And he is in a part of the world where he is literally surrounded by superpowers or their allies.  If he was somewhere in Africa where nobody gives a fark he *might* be able to manage some territorial expansion before the rest of the world got mobilized, but even then it wouldn't be much.  As it is, *any* truely aggressive action on his part would be met with an immediate implosion of his entire country.  That's what makes his actions so damn astounding.  He has nothing to gain and absolutely everything to lose, and yet here we are.


Exactly.

There's an exchange in Dogs of War I like for this:

Manson: Who are the country's friends, diplomatically speaking?
Endean: They don't have any. No one is interested, it's such a shambles.

Sounds like North Korea to me.
 
2013-04-09 04:39:30 PM  

crypticsatellite: Here's something fun to ponder:

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/08/secret-transmission-detected-from-n or th-korea/


The fact that that site is full of crazy?
 
2013-04-09 04:40:19 PM  

StrangeQ: As it is, *any* truely aggressive action on his part would be met with an immediate implosion of his entire country.  That's what makes his actions so damn astounding.  He has nothing to gain and absolutely everything to lose, and yet here we are.


I think it comes down to "Juche", total self-sufficiency and absolute national/cultural dedication. North Korea has declared that it's goal is reunification with South Korea, but without ever giving up the self-sufficiency and preservation of tradition. My guess would be that North Korea accuses South Korea of weakness, greed, etc. for "giving in to the West" and it's ways. South Korea would to the diplomatic route, but any compromise at all means North Korea isn't getting it's way with "Juche".

So, I'd say it's very possible that North Korea means it. They're saying "Get the fark out of the way so that I can deal with my other half who betrayed me! I don't want to harm you, but if you stand in the way, you become part of the problem!" Sort of an all-or-nothing attitude.

Also an insane, wacky, selfish, pathetic, horrible, violent attitude. Especially for an ideal which so hates materialistic ways, it is sure obsessed with getting it's materialistic way.
 
2013-04-09 04:42:01 PM  
Wow, it's like NK wants to have their shiat pushed in by MOAB bombs.
 
2013-04-09 04:43:40 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: crypticsatellite: Here's something fun to ponder:

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/08/secret-transmission-detected-from-n or th-korea/

The fact that that site is full of crazy?


But it's fun crazy!
 
2013-04-09 04:44:03 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: DougTaupe: A friend of mine showed me a pic of B2's parked en-masse on the tarmac at Nellis a little over a week ago. I would say there's a good chance they are in theater by now.

A better question is:
What carriers, attack subs, and boomers are out at sea now and do we even have confirmed locations on any of them.

I imagine there's a LOT of subs out in the Sea of Japan right now.  Question is, how many carrier groups are in the area?


Believe it or not, you can actually get that info pretty easily.  We don't have that many and they aren't easy to hide.

www.stratfor.com
 
2013-04-09 04:45:00 PM  

crypticsatellite: Here's something fun to ponder:

http://intellihub.com/2013/04/08/secret-transmission-detected-from-n or th-korea/


That website hurts my brain.
 
2013-04-09 04:45:06 PM  

texdent: Dinobot: Japan will deploy Godzilla, Ultraman, Gamera and the Power Rangers if Best Korea follows thru with their threats.

Don't forget Sailor Moon, Sunfire, Big Hero 6, and a few others.


Needs more Space Battleship Yamato.
 
2013-04-09 04:45:16 PM  

tinderfitles: DjangoStonereaver:

I was going to use a pic of a Gundam, but I was always more a Robotech Macross

Robotech  fan.

Fix'd


No it was right the first time.

I meant Robotech, not Macross.

I never watched the original Japanese, and I don't care if that makes me a heathen baka gaijun.

And yes, I know that the '3 seasons' in the US were 3 totally different shows in the original.  I don't really care.

/You sound... weeaboo-ey.....
 
2013-04-09 04:45:25 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: Not a bad result for the little prick, if it works out exactly as he hopes.  It won't though.  Being rebuilt by the west is one thing, but that country is a barren wasteland, and not because of the Kim Jong family.


FTFY. Current boss is Jong-un. Previous boss, and his father, was Jong-il. Granddad was Il-sung.

/So, it seems that my major worry in BK threads is correcting people on Korean naming conventions.
//I guess I'm just a complete asshole, or something.
 
2013-04-09 04:47:06 PM  
NK is the biggest attention whore.

If they were doing this for anything other than attention, they would have done it by now. If you're going to do it, then just do it. What's the point of telling everyone every little thing you're going to do?
 
2013-04-09 04:47:09 PM  

antron: [i46.tinypic.com image 597x402]


HAHA, I got that phrase stuck in the girlfriend's mind skiing last week.

I have never caught the alien in the background before.
 
2013-04-09 04:47:21 PM  

GleeUnit: hubiestubert: I am more and more convinced that North Korea is really hoping for war, so that they can get rebuilt by the West. It takes them out of the Chinese pocket, it keeps the Russians out of their hair, and afterwards, Little Kim can be one of the cool kids at the UN table. At least one of the ones who got out of the dictator for life game, and retires someplace warm, with a lot of security paid for on someone else's dime...

I don't believe that Kim would make it through such an affair with both his head and his freedom intact.  The world hasn't been kind to disposed dictators of late.


Also, he's going to have a much harder time trying to hide out among the general population than Saddam or Muammar did.
 
2013-04-09 04:48:32 PM  

DirtyDeadGhostofEbenezerCooke: SuperNinjaToad: If we launch at NK, there is NO WAY China or Russia can tell where the missile would land other than knowing it is headed in that general direction especially before MIRVs released and for sure they will send retaliatory missile strikes on the continental US. Also unlike NK, theirs can actually reach our cities..

This is why subs full of SLCM's are lurking off North Korea's West coast, so the flight paths will be away from China or Russia.


No. There is a minimum range to those missiles and it would put them in or very near to Chinese waters. The US aren't going to put a boomer lurking that close to Beijing.
 
gja
2013-04-09 04:50:25 PM  

Zombie Eater: texdent: kumanoki: "It's an entirely different type of dong altogether."

It's an entirely different type of dong.

[media.nola.com image 380x214]


Who call for "The Donger"?
I here!
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-09 04:50:31 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: whistleridge: 3. Their missiles can only just barely reach the US, if at all

Everybody posts that map, with no legend as to what the dark red vs. the light red means. Also, Alaska and Hawaii are very much part of the US.


but they are not 'America-America'.....
 
2013-04-09 04:50:38 PM  

Gaumond: I have never caught the alien in the background before.


Same.
 
2013-04-09 04:52:22 PM  
If Lil Un is worried about losing control, or his head, taunting Japan (or someone else) into "attacking" NK, by blowing up their test missile but not doing any other actual damage might be just the ticket to rally the people behind him. If so, I wonder if he's thought through what comes next...
 
2013-04-09 04:52:31 PM  

fireclown: netweavr: Japan is forbidden from doing shiat without getting permission from the US. Guess what the US gave them today...

I was of the belief that anti-missile stuff was within the purview of the Japanese Defense Force.   If not, the damned well should be.  At any rate, I hope they keep their shiat together and don't do anything hasty.  Just shoot the damned thing down and show Kim what's what.

Also, if there are any Korean speakers out there, what does "dong" mean in Korean?  Can we get word to the NK missile program that the US just can't take missiles named "somethingsomethingDONG" seriously?


We have 15 Aegis Destroyers off their coast.  Whatever they shoot will barely make it out of their airspace.

And can we please forget the old "Seoul will get seriously farked up" storyline?  No, no chance.
 
2013-04-09 04:53:10 PM  
Tomorrow Japan will activate:
www.wired.com
and shoot down the missile.
 
2013-04-09 04:53:35 PM  
"we've moved a solid portion of our B-2 fleet to Guam"

shiat! Hope it doesn't capsize!
 
2013-04-09 04:54:33 PM  
Simple.

Wait until it's dark. Then bomb the living shiat out of anything in North Korea that has lights on. Problem solved. I don't think anyone would object.
 
2013-04-09 04:55:05 PM  

jaybeezey: Rembrant_Q_Einstein: LoneCoon:

You never heard of the Ides of March.? You are supposed to beware them.


the other Ides to beware...


beeradvocate.com

Indeed. In college in the early '90s, after listening to too much Ice Cube and watching Boyz n the Hood, I decided I was going to cast off my whiteness for an evening. I figured the best way to get started was with a couple of St. Ides 40 oz. That evening did not end well for me...
 
2013-04-09 04:55:40 PM  

Radioactive Ass: No. There is a minimum range to those missiles and it would put them in or very near to Chinese waters. The US aren't going to put a boomer lurking that close to Beijing.


Agreed, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if some of the SSGN Ohios aren't prowling around the Sea of Japan right about now.
 
2013-04-09 04:56:40 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I plan on moving to Hawaii in a few years.  I personally give my blessing to wipe NK off the map if it's continued existence would screw up my new home.


If you are looking for laid back, but actually want stuff to do then you are better off choosing Maui or Kuaui.  Big Island is a nice place for a weekend trip but there is fark all to do there.  Also imagine an island about 3x the size of Oahu and only being able to drive the perimeter.

Personally I like living on Oahu because I can still live a relaxed life without worrying about the hustle of living in town (I live on the leeward side).  I also delt with DC traffic for 8 years so i really don't mind the morning commute, which still averages about 45 min.  If you want more of the small beach town vibe, then you can always live in Kailua/Kaneohe or even the north shore, but those areas can get pretty pricey.
 
2013-04-09 04:56:48 PM  

dk47: We have 15 Aegis Destroyers off their coast. Whatever they shoot will barely make it out of their airspace.


I am not sure there are near that many destroyers and I don't think we can hit the ICBM that soon...if at all (depending what is being targeted).
 
2013-04-09 04:56:50 PM  
As a Hawaiian resident, I am not in the least bit concerned at the thought of being "within range" of lil kim's missiles.  Let them try and hit this little speck in the middle of the ocean.  even if they got past the interceptors, they'd likely go the way of Earhart, and disappear somewhere over the Pacific.
 
2013-04-09 04:57:26 PM  

cr7pilot: jaybeezey: Rembrant_Q_Einstein: LoneCoon:

You never heard of the Ides of March.? You are supposed to beware them.


the other Ides to beware...

[beeradvocate.com image 150x300]

Indeed. In college in the early '90s, after listening to too much Ice Cube and watching Boyz n the Hood, I decided I was going to cast off my whiteness for an evening. I figured the best way to get started was with a couple of St. Ides 40 oz. That evening did not end well for me...


Did any of you guys have access to Big Bear. Now THAT was some fine malt liqurah.

Oh and DPRK is bad, stop waving your Dongs all over the place
 
2013-04-09 04:59:09 PM  

Gaumond: antron: [i46.tinypic.com image 597x402]

HAHA, I got that phrase stuck in the girlfriend's mind skiing last week.

I have never caught the alien in the background before.


For a long time, South Park would sneak an alien somewhere into the episode. It was the same as Superman in Seinfeld. Pretty sure they stopped it with the more recent episodes, but for a while you could always catch an alien somewhere in the background.
 
2013-04-09 04:59:45 PM  
Can you imagine if the Nuke gets shot up over Japan?
Imagine the Electromagnetic pulse!
It's a good thing Japan doesn't have a lot of electronic equipment.


/say cheese!