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(The Daily Caller)   By the way, we won the Iraq war   (dailycaller.com) divider line 298
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2013-04-09 01:52:24 PM
Has the war paid for itself yet?
 
2013-04-09 01:52:44 PM
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2013-04-09 01:54:42 PM

Raharu: I thought we were supposed to get some yellow cake after or something.

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The cake is a lie.
 
2013-04-09 01:55:31 PM

monoski: I have not seen a signature on the surrender document yet. Oh wait, that is because it will never end. See Korea and Vietnam DMZ's for examples.


www.lonelyplanet.com

I'm not seeing a DMZ. Perhaps you can point it out?
 
2013-04-09 01:55:49 PM

Popcorn Johnny: GWB is a hero, get over it.


Now I'm certain you are just a troll.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:08 PM
When a US citizen can book a direct flight from New York to Baghdad on a major carrier, I'll start to believe Iraq is anything other than a barely contained quagmire.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:29 PM
Problem: Your mismanagement of the country from 2000 to 2008--exemplified in the public memory by your hubristic, fraudulent, and unbelievably costly invasion and occupation of Iraq--shattered public trust in your party and handed your opposition a simple and effective way to discredit your policies a full decade later.

Solution: Declare victory.
 
2013-04-09 01:56:45 PM
What exactly did we win?

What agenda that was in the US interest did we actually accomplish.

The author says we have a better Iraq. Then does he also condone that we attack every country that we would consider we could make a better government? If so that's a lot of wars.

Pretending we attacked Iraq for the purpose to force Saddam Hussein out is rewriting history. We did not. That rational was created only because the previous rationals were all found to be lies.
 
2013-04-09 01:57:22 PM
And by the way North Korea is acting, we're about to win the Indonesian war, too.
 
2013-04-09 01:57:48 PM
When you're angry and/or scared, sometimes you say and/or do stupid shiat you regret later on. The Iraq war is a very good example of such stupid shiat.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:36 PM

GardenWeasel: Popcorn Johnny: GWB is a hero, get over it.

Now I'm certain you are just a troll.


It's not like I'm white knighting for Popcorn Johnny, but people on Fark as a whole have serious issues with sarcasm. Although he might be serious, who knows.
 
2013-04-09 02:00:41 PM
What were the victory conditions that were set out during the run up to war and at the start of the war?

Did we achieve those victory conditions?
 
2013-04-09 02:00:42 PM

Lost Thought 00: What percentage of their oil reserves do we control? How much plunder did the troops return with?


www.aljazeera.com

Western oil firms remain as US exits Iraq

The US government didn't get the plunder, the US oil corporations did.
 
2013-04-09 02:00:45 PM

Sgt Otter: caught Osama bin Laden hiding in Baghdad


Meanwhile, in the bizarro-universe where Republicans are right about everything:

online.wsj.com/article/SB122427514031845555.html
 
2013-04-09 02:01:24 PM
Well, that's weird. That whole thing was George Bush's idea, wasn't it? And yet this guy is claiming it was the right thing to do? How can that be right?
Isn't it odd how everybody stopped keeping a death toll of Americans killed overseas after January 20, 2009? But then, as the great lady once said: What difference does it make?


Ugh.  You're such a twat.  This is why you can't keep a girlfriend.
 
2013-04-09 02:01:33 PM

Notabunny: And by the way North Korea is acting, we're about to win the Indonesian war, too.


We will invade NK too, but Kim Jong * will live to become an old man in a nice villa in Beijing while we fruitlessly search the NK mountainside for him
 
2013-04-09 02:01:46 PM
Iraq may have won, the Prime Minister is certainly doing better than he would have had Saddam still been in power, but what, exactly, did we win?
 
2013-04-09 02:03:24 PM
(queue sound of weak, lamest-sounding, half-blown-into New Year's Eve noisemaker here)

Who wrote this article? Big Brother?
 
2013-04-09 02:03:31 PM
Winning!

Iraq War Drives Advances in Prosthetic Limbs

Byline: Mark Roth Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The horrors of war have often led to medical benefits in peacetime.

The Civil War spread the use of anesthesia. World War II helped to start the antibiotics revolution.

And now, the Iraq war and its deadly roadside bombs are advancing the development of prosthetics for those who have lost limbs. So far, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan have left roughly 1,000 U.S. soldiers with amputations. The vast majority have lost feet and legs, but about 200 soldiers have lost fingers, hands and arms, said Ryan Blanck, upper-extremity specialist at the U.S. Armys Center for the Intrepid in San Antonio, a $65 million ...
 
2013-04-09 02:04:04 PM

aaronx: I remember hearing that all the Iraqi soldiers kept 'melting away' (like the Wicked Witch of the West, I guess).

Turns out -- and this ended up being hilarious -- they had all just gone home with their weapons in order to be ready for the inevitable civil war. An inevitable civil war that our generals and our Secretary of Defense and our President (or even the guy in charge, our Vice President) didn't seem to have anticipated for even a second.

"Yay, we won!" I kept hearing. "Man, we're farked" is what I was thinking.


Actually, all those guys mentioned wrote a report 10 years previous during the first Bush administration predicting that all that would happen.   For the life of me, I don't understand why people didn't make more mention of that or why all those guys forgot about it themselves.  They, themselves, predicted it.

Did they just go retarded while they were out of office?  WHY would they screw up so badly?
 
2013-04-09 02:04:57 PM
I'd just like to remind everyone that no one who orchestrated the fake war in Iraq has been punished for doing so.
 
2013-04-09 02:05:03 PM
And all Iraqis agree with Nouri al-Maliki. Just like the daily caller agrees with everything their head of government says.
 
Ehh
2013-04-09 02:05:18 PM
When my wife and I got divorced, the kids ended up hating me and refusing to speak to me, I lost more money than I had, my lawyer screwed me over, and she got the house and the dog, but it went on the record in open court that she did, in fact, sleep with my business partner. She finally admitted it! I won! Also, I got the DVD collection.
 
2013-04-09 02:05:20 PM
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2013-04-09 02:05:27 PM

keiverarrow: Oh yeah, what did we win?


Corvus: What exactly did we win?


You're missing the point. It's not WHAT we won - America has lots of stuff.

It's THAT we won.

// USA CRYING FREEDOM EAGLE REAGAN F-150 HOLD MAH BEER
 
2013-04-09 02:06:33 PM
The United States has not "lost" Iraq. Instead, in Iraq, the United States has found a partner for our shared strategic concerns and our common efforts on energy, economics and the promotion of peace and democracy.

So there is honour among thieves after all...
 
2013-04-09 02:07:06 PM
Suck it evil doers
 
2013-04-09 02:08:59 PM
I'd like to make a joke about how this sounds like it could have come from Baghdad Bob, but it turns out that farking guy was right.
 
2013-04-09 02:09:12 PM

nekom: I'm not sure you can honestly say we won or lost that war.  It just happened.  We knocked down the regime, if that's the criteria for victory, what were we sticking around for a decade for?


Guilt?
 
2013-04-09 02:09:44 PM

netizencain: "Despite all the problems of the past decade, the overwhelming majority of Iraqis agree that we're better off today than under Hussein's brutal dictatorship.
Iraqis will remain grateful for the U.S. role and for the losses sustained by military and civilian personnel that contributed in ending Hussein's rule. These losses pale by comparison, of course, to those sustained by the Iraqi people."

For truth.


What truth?
 
2013-04-09 02:10:26 PM

Corvus: The US government didn't get the plunder, the US European oil corporations did.


Correction: British, Malaysia, China, French, Dutch, Russian and partly owned US Oil Corporations got the contracts.

Only Shell out of those is US:
Shell Oil Company is a 50/50 partner with the Saudi Arabian government-owned oil company Saudi Aramco in Motiva Enterprises, a refining and marketing joint venture which owns and operates three oil refineries on the Gulf Coast of the United States.

So, yeah, "we liberalized the Iraqi oil market, bringing it to the world marketplace... and effectively cutting out the Iraqis from their inherited natural resources".

But, we paid the cost of the war MUCH MORE than the governments of the companies that got those oil contracts.
We did the heavy lifting and then didn't get the spoils.

I recall before the Iraq war started it was said in front of Congress that the oil would pay for the war... how can that be if only ONE US company that is 50% Saudi owned got two of the smaller Iraqi oil field contracts?

We lost for us.
We won for worldwide oil.
 
2013-04-09 02:10:49 PM

Arkanaut: Sgt Otter: caught Osama bin Laden hiding in Baghdad

Meanwhile, in the bizarro-universe where Republicans are right about everything:

online.wsj.com/article/SB122427514031845555.html


Do Peggy Noonan's masturbatory fantasies really need to be linked in Fark threads?
 
2013-04-09 02:11:08 PM
If we had invested the $2.2 trillion in wind and solar, the US would be generating 21% of its electricity with renewable energy. If we had invested the $3.9 trillion that the war in Iraq will ultimately cost, we would generate nearly 40% of our electricity with new renewables. Combined with the 10% of supply from existing hydroelectricity, the US could have surpassed 50% of total renewables in supply. Link
 
2013-04-09 02:11:23 PM
I think a record of 0-0 would be preferable to any other war win-loss records.
 
2013-04-09 02:11:32 PM
Ctrl-F, searched for "won" anywhere in the Iraqi Prime Minister's statement.

0 matches.
 
2013-04-09 02:11:46 PM
Whether or not we "won" is merely a question of what the original goals were.  Did we attain our goals or not?

We went in to Iraq with the following conditions for victory:

1) Reason - Find and remove WMDs.  Donald Rumsefeld - "We know where they are."  "Those weapons will be found" - Tommy Franks.
2) Cost - Zero reconstruction cost, it will finance itself - Paul Wolfowitz.
3) Timeline - We will be done in weeks, not months - Dick Cheney.

So victory means we find and remove the WMDs, it costs us pretty much nothing and is only a few weeks.  Were we victorious?

Sure it cost a bit more and took a bit longer but everyone agrees, Iraq does not have WMDs.  So of course we were victorious.
 
2013-04-09 02:11:56 PM
... So... vote Republican?
 
2013-04-09 02:11:57 PM

keiverarrow: Oh yeah, what did we win...


"It's a major award."

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2013-04-09 02:12:00 PM

NostroZ: So, yeah, "we liberalized the Iraqi oil market, bringing it to the world marketplace... and effectively cutting out the Iraqis from their inherited natural resources".


That was pretty much my point.
 
2013-04-09 02:13:09 PM
We won the war handily.  The occupation has been a disaster.
 
2013-04-09 02:13:33 PM
"The only way to win, is not to play."
 
2013-04-09 02:13:42 PM

vartian: Well, that's weird. That whole thing was George Bush's idea, wasn't it? And yet this guy is claiming it was the right thing to do? How can that be right?

Isn't it odd how everybody stopped keeping a death toll of Americans killed overseas after January 20, 2009? But then, as the great lady once said: What difference does it make?

We're seriously having a conversation about an opinion piece in the Daily Caller - like it matters?


By Treacher - one of the worst and most shameless of their contributors.

He doesn't care about any issue.  He just likes to rile liberals.  So I'm with you -- if you know that's his only goal, anything resembling an actual opinion or argument can be safely (and wisely) disregarded.
 
2013-04-09 02:16:22 PM

JerseyTim: I'd like to make a joke about how this sounds like it could have come from Baghdad Bob, but it turns out that farking guy was right.


As a 2012 CIA study concluded definitively, Saddam Hussein didn't have weapons of mass destruction. Nor did Iraq have 18 mobile laboratories for making anthrax and botulism, as Secretary of State Colin Powell claimed before the United Nations in February 2003, nor had Saddam Hussein recently tried to buy large quantities of uranium from Africa, as President Bush asserted in his 2003 State of the Union address. A decade of war was based on things that had never taken place.

No matter how many times I read that, or think about it, it still is depressing as fark.
 
2013-04-09 02:17:15 PM
Neat-o
 
2013-04-09 02:17:23 PM

Dr Dreidel: Arkanaut: Sgt Otter: caught Osama bin Laden hiding in Baghdad

Meanwhile, in the bizarro-universe where Republicans are right about everything:

online.wsj.com/article/SB122427514031845555.html

Do Peggy Noonan's masturbatory fantasies really need to be linked in Fark threads?


"Jim Treacher"'s masturbatory fantasy got greenlit, so I figured why not?
 
2013-04-09 02:20:02 PM
Well, I guess we won, in the same way a bear "wins" against a bear trap by chewing off it's own leg.
 
2013-04-09 02:20:09 PM
Yeah, and you also totally won in Vietnam!

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-09 02:21:19 PM
Yea, remember on 9-12-01 when Bush said we need to invade Iraq to free those wonderful brown people? YEa, neither do i
 
2013-04-09 02:22:01 PM

ApeShaft: Yeah, and you also totally won in Vietnam!

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bestuff.com
It was a tie
 
2013-04-09 02:22:36 PM
 I don't think i'll ever be over macho grande.
 
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