FARK.com: (7690401) Just like the skirmishes in "bloody Kansas" provided a preview of the Civil War, the battle in Iowa over who will run to try to ocupy Tom Harkin's soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat are a dress rehearsal for the coming GOP war with the Tea Party

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		Just like the skirmishes in "bloody Kansas" provided a preview of the Civil War, the battle in Iowa over who will run to try to ocupy Tom Harkin's soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat are a dress rehearsal for the coming GOP war with the Tea Party (huffingtonpost.com)		90
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SilentStrider		2013-04-09 01:18:41 PM

Luckily for all of us, plenty of popcorn is grown in Iowa.

Altair		2013-04-09 01:25:45 PM

*popcorn.jpg*

abb3w		2013-04-09 01:33:31 PM

Ob:

Aarontology		2013-04-09 01:39:05 PM

Yeah, except back then the Republicans wanted black people to vote.

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier		2013-04-09 01:49:53 PM

If you guys would have terminated the astroturfing before it came into full development, you wouldn't have had this problem.

But I respect your right to choose funding.

JolobinSmokin		2013-04-09 02:06:07 PM

Any chance a dem picks up this seat?

I try not to pay much attention to Iowa, unless it's Iowa state playing Tulsa in football.

or OU and OSU I guess.

Serious Black		2013-04-09 02:09:34 PM

The thought of Steve King being elected Senator makes me feel like Kenny's dad in the South Park episode where he projectile vomits, has epic diarrhea, and blows buckets of blood out his nose.

Hollie Maea		2013-04-09 02:09:58 PM

JolobinSmokin: Any chance a dem picks up this seat?

They already have this seat. They are trying not to lose it.

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:10:36 PM

Submitted an article a few days back, there's a similar fight going on in South Dakota. GOP is going to throw away two Senate seats that they had pretty good chances of winning.

BarrRepublican		2013-04-09 02:10:59 PM

As an Iowan, I can tell you that for the most part our live-and-let-live attitude doesn't bode well for the Tea Party candidate.

un4gvn666		2013-04-09 02:11:45 PM

Serious Black: The thought of Steve King being elected Senator makes me feel like Kenny's dad in the South Park episode where he projectile vomits, has epic diarrhea, and blows buckets of blood out his nose.

I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

impaler		2013-04-09 02:14:38 PM

Shrapnel		2013-04-09 02:15:05 PM

Have fun with that, kids.

Can somebody pass the popcorn?

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:15:17 PM

un4gvn666: I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

It's not that he's likely to win, just the idea of him winning is a bit too big of a risk. Look at the Scott Brown election; he wasn't a horrible person/Senator, but he could have been and only got in because the Democrat running thought she had it in the bag and phoned it in. Same thing could happen in a Steve King election.

BarrRepublican		2013-04-09 02:16:18 PM

JolobinSmokin: Any chance a dem picks up this seat?

I try not to pay much attention to Iowa, unless it's Iowa state playing Tulsa in football.

or OU and OSU I guess.

Pretty decent actually. Apart from the sparse rural areas west of I-35, Iowa has been trending bluer over the last decade.

Our small town lost two native sons to the Iraq farce. Similar scenarios have played out across the state.

un4gvn666		2013-04-09 02:16:57 PM

Satanic_Hamster: un4gvn666: I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

It's not that he's likely to win, just the idea of him winning is a bit too big of a risk. Look at the Scott Brown election; he wasn't a horrible person/Senator, but he could have been and only got in because the Democrat running thought she had it in the bag and phoned it in. Same thing could happen in a Steve King election.

Yeah, but Scott Brown wasn't as pants-on-head retarded as Steve King is. Just let him open his mouth so the stupid can flow, and he'll lose it all on his own. That's what I hope, at least.

MyKingdomForYourHorse		2013-04-09 02:17:17 PM

un4gvn666: I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

I'd put it closer to Richard Mourdock run in Indiana. King has strong numbers but when he hits the general and opens his mouth we'll see them plummet.

un4gvn666		2013-04-09 02:18:10 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: un4gvn666: I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

I'd put it closer to Richard Mourdock run in Indiana. King has strong numbers but when he hits the general and opens his mouth we'll see them plummet.

Exactly, similar situation.

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:18:34 PM

un4gvn666: Yeah, but Scott Brown wasn't as pants-on-head retarded as Steve King is. Just let him open his mouth so the stupid can flow, and he'll lose it all on his own. That's what I hope, at least.

Again, I doubt he'd win because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut for that long. But is that something you really want to risk? Do you really want to do that to the nation, on the off chance he hires a campaign manager/advisor who can convince him to shut his whore mouth for a few months?

HotWingConspiracy		2013-04-09 02:19:50 PM

Can't wait for the Ken Burns doc.

ArkPanda		2013-04-09 02:21:22 PM

Satanic_Hamster: un4gvn666: I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

It's not that he's likely to win, just the idea of him winning is a bit too big of a risk. Look at the Scott Brown election; he wasn't a horrible person/Senator, but he could have been and only got in because the Democrat running thought she had it in the bag and phoned it in. Same thing could happen in a Steve King election.

Which is why we need to encourage Steve King to speak out on his patriotic platform, loudly and repeatedly. Jesus said, "Neither do men herp, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth derp unto all that are in the house. "

un4gvn666		2013-04-09 02:21:50 PM

Satanic_Hamster: But is that something you really want to risk?

Not really, but what can be done about it?

monoski		2013-04-09 02:22:51 PM

Looks something like...

The_Forensicator		2013-04-09 02:23:10 PM

Concern is duly noted. It would be better with background music.

Serious Black		2013-04-09 02:23:11 PM

un4gvn666: Serious Black: The thought of Steve King being elected Senator makes me feel like Kenny's dad in the South Park episode where he projectile vomits, has epic diarrhea, and blows buckets of blood out his nose.

I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

I wish I could believe that he would be guaranteed to lose. I really do. But a lot of people thought Vilsack had a strong shot at beating him last year with redistricting pushing him into a more competitive district and the presidential election driving Democratic turnout higher than in 2010. He still won by 8%. I sadly think there's a good change he could win a statewide election.

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:26:03 PM

Serious Black: I wish I could believe that he would be guaranteed to lose. I really do. But a lot of people thought Vilsack had a strong shot at beating him last year with redistricting pushing him into a more competitive district and the presidential election driving Democratic turnout higher than in 2010. He still won by 8%. I sadly think there's a good change he could win a statewide election.

That wouldn't be a good change; that wouldn't be a good change at all.

Ned Stark		2013-04-09 02:26:26 PM

That's a damn shame.

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:29:02 PM

Here's the RHINO fight going on in South Dakota:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-frontrunner-in-sd-se na te-race-risks-conservative

Serious Black		2013-04-09 02:30:53 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Serious Black: I wish I could believe that he would be guaranteed to lose. I really do. But a lot of people thought Vilsack had a strong shot at beating him last year with redistricting pushing him into a more competitive district and the presidential election driving Democratic turnout higher than in 2010. He still won by 8%. I sadly think there's a good change he could win a statewide election.

That wouldn't be a good change; that wouldn't be a good change at all.

Goddamnitsomuch. I hate making typos.

Ned Stark		2013-04-09 02:33:08 PM

Serious Black: Satanic_Hamster: Serious Black: I wish I could believe that he would be guaranteed to lose. I really do. But a lot of people thought Vilsack had a strong shot at beating him last year with redistricting pushing him into a more competitive district and the presidential election driving Democratic turnout higher than in 2010. He still won by 8%. I sadly think there's a good change he could win a statewide election.

That wouldn't be a good change; that wouldn't be a good change at all.

Goddamnitsomuch. I hate making typos.

Me two.

Lord_Baull		2013-04-09 02:34:10 PM

Looks like another Missouri in the making.

i13.photobucket.com

Stone Meadow		2013-04-09 02:34:18 PM

I'm getting the weirdest boner from this story.

/schadenfreude...I haz it

Dafatone		2013-04-09 02:35:04 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Here's the RHINO fight going on in South Dakota:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-frontrunner-in-sd-se na te-race-risks-conservative

I've lived in South Dakota for less than a year, but I can't imagine the republicans losing that race. Rounds and Noem are both well liked, and Noem's the current house rep, so it's not like she's an out-of-nowhere crazy sort.

There really aren't any big name visible democrats to oppose either of them.

If some other candidate wins the primary, one who is super teatastic conservative, the democrats have a shot.

mongbiohazard		2013-04-09 02:35:17 PM

Satanic_Hamster: un4gvn666: Yeah, but Scott Brown wasn't as pants-on-head retarded as Steve King is. Just let him open his mouth so the stupid can flow, and he'll lose it all on his own. That's what I hope, at least.

Again, I doubt he'd win because he wouldn't be able to keep his mouth shut for that long. But is that something you really want to risk? Do you really want to do that to the nation, on the off chance he hires a campaign manager/advisor who can convince him to shut his whore mouth for a few months?

That is always a danger, so let's hope that the Democratic candidate doesn't stop beating the crap out of King's candidacy until an hour after the polls close on election day.

Farkin_Crazy		2013-04-09 02:37:32 PM

Bruce Braley should win hands down. Particularly if Steve King runs for the seat.

It will be interesting to see how King handles this though. Does he toss away his cushy House seat for a longshot at the Senate? Best thing the state could do is rid themselves of that idjit.

Dog Welder		2013-04-09 02:37:53 PM

Satanic_Hamster: Here's the RHINO fight going on in South Dakota:
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/gop-frontrunner-in-sd-se na te-race-risks-conservative

I seriously don't understand why the GOP is so gung-ho in sucking off Grover Norquist and his idiotic anti-tax pledge. It's simply a horrible governing policy. "If we lower taxes over and over again to the point where we can't pay our bills, we're never ever allowed to raise them to correct the mistake." Idiots, the lot of them.

Thoguh		2013-04-09 02:42:04 PM

Farkin_Crazy: Bruce Braley should win hands down. Particularly if Steve King runs for the seat.

It will be interesting to see how King handles this though. Does he toss away his cushy House seat for a longshot at the Senate? Best thing the state could do is rid themselves of that idjit.

The problem is that's what I thought when Bob Van Der Plaats got demolished in the governor race even when the Tea Party craze was at it's height. But instead of learning from that he just doubled down with the "Family Leader" group and is even more crazy since he doesn't have to answer to anyone other than his donors.

I really wish that the media would just stop deciding to pretend farkheads like him have anything worth saying. Nobody quotes other hate groups for commentary on actual political issues, why is the Family Leader any different?

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 02:44:23 PM

Dog Welder: I seriously don't understand why the GOP is so gung-ho in sucking off Grover Norquist and his idiotic anti-tax pledge. It's simply a horrible governing policy. "If we lower taxes over and over again to the point where we can't pay our bills, we're never ever allowed to raise them to correct the mistake." Idiots, the lot of them.

I don't understand how you could even weld a dog. I mean, what type of rod would you even use?

MFAWG		2013-04-09 02:46:46 PM

BarrRepublican: As an Iowan, I can tell you that for the most part our live-and-let-live attitude doesn't bode well for the Tea Party candidate.

The problem isn't Iowa as a whole, but the radical Christian Fundamentalists who are in charge of the GOP in the state.

These are the folks who made Crazypants Bachmann a frontrunner in late 2011 and got Santorum surging headed to New Hampshire and South. Cackylacky.

Great_Milenko		2013-04-09 02:49:37 PM

BRING IT!

Hi! I can lick my own eyebrows		2013-04-09 02:49:40 PM

HotWingConspiracy: Can't wait for the Ken Burns doc.

[Sad Old Timey Fiddle Music]

Dearest Eula May,

How I do pine for your loving arms My Darling.

Yet I fear that the Lord will not see to it that I will not return from the forthcoming Battle of Des Moines....

SoupJohnB		2013-04-09 02:52:09 PM

Lord_Baull: Looks like another Missouri in the making.

[i13.photobucket.com image 612x612]

Nice. Was thinking Costner in "Hatfields & McCoys," but his Earp movie was lame.

Dr Dreidel		2013-04-09 03:07:17 PM

Lord_Baull: Looks like another Missouri in the making.

i13.photobucket.com

What'd I do now?

theknuckler_33		2013-04-09 03:15:00 PM

Harkin's electoral history there has been pretty solid. His narrowest win was 5% in '96 (he won by 25% in '08). I wonder if any of that will carry-over to the Dem candidate, especially if the GOP candidate isn't a particularly high profile one.

BMulligan		2013-04-09 03:19:33 PM

The_Forensicator: Concern is duly noted. It would be better with background music.

You should learn the difference between concern and glee.

gingerjet		2013-04-09 03:22:08 PM

MFAWG: The problem isn't Iowa as a whole, but the radical Christian Fundamentalists who are in charge of the GOP in the state.

Like MN - Ron Paul "libertarians" have taken over the GOP in Iowa. Which isn't any better ...

TV's Vinnie		2013-04-09 03:23:51 PM

As an Iowan, I can assure you that King's antics may play well with the mouthbreathers in his home town, but over in the eastern side of the state where Iowa City and Davenport are, he's utterly reviled and has zero chance of picking up enough votes to carry him into Harkin's chair.

Fox News may as well make room for another right wing loser.

TV's Vinnie		2013-04-09 03:25:36 PM

un4gvn666: Serious Black: The thought of Steve King being elected Senator makes me feel like Kenny's dad in the South Park episode where he projectile vomits, has epic diarrhea, and blows buckets of blood out his nose.

I don't know that I would be worried about him, honestly. Seems like if he ran, it would be another Todd Akin situation all over again.

He's already got decades of pre-loaded Akin moments. The very thought of him winning is like burning the contents of the Library of Congress and replacing the books with Jack Chick tracts.

verbaltoxin		2013-04-09 03:28:17 PM

Satanic_Hamster		2013-04-09 03:36:29 PM

verbaltoxin: Hit "preview" not "add comment"

/Need to follow my own advice.

Preview is only if you're trying to attach images and need to make sure it's going to go through.

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