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2013-04-09 11:41:09 AM
She "earned" that respect from soccer fans. Especially in Liverpool...
 
2013-04-09 11:42:34 AM
Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"
 
2013-04-09 11:43:12 AM
I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her
 
2013-04-09 11:45:15 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"


Its been drilled into simpletons heads the past 20 years that everyone should hate conservatives and if you don't you are a horrid, horrible, evil person.
 
2013-04-09 11:46:04 AM

steamingpile: I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her


No hate like liberal hate
T-Shirts for sale in the lobby
 
2013-04-09 11:47:34 AM

steamingpile: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"

Its been drilled into simpletons heads the past 20 years that everyone should hate conservatives and if you don't you are a horrid, horrible, evil person.


Epson PowerLite 83+
 
2013-04-09 11:51:40 AM

steamingpile: Its been drilled into simpletons heads the past 20 years that everyone should hate conservatives and if you don't you are a horrid, horrible, evil person.


Just goes to show that the horrid, horrible evil conservatives have done a great job in spreading the message and the brand.
 
2013-04-09 11:51:53 AM

studs up: steamingpile: I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her

No hate like liberal hate
T-Shirts for sale in the lobby


If you keep repeating this, does it become true?

/or do you get a friendly visit from the ghost of Reagan?
 
2013-04-09 11:52:08 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"


I think part of it is born from the fact that she (and all Prime Ministers) have such a large personal impact on policies, yet so few people actually have the chance to directly vote for him or her.
 
2013-04-09 11:54:33 AM

Source4leko: studs up: steamingpile: I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her

No hate like liberal hate
T-Shirts for sale in the lobby

If you keep repeating this, does it become true?

/or do you get a friendly visit from the ghost of Reagan?


Repeated denials. Do they make it false?
/Or did Mao come over and rub your tummy?
(this is easy and fun for the whole family)
 
2013-04-09 11:56:58 AM

Trocadero: She "earned" that respect from soccer fans. Especially in Liverpool...


Bolded for emphasis; after the Hillsborough reevaluation, a lot people that dumped on Liverpool supporters for decades after have gotten quiet all of a sudden.  Wonder why?
 
2013-04-09 12:09:45 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-09 12:12:33 PM

neversubmit: [25.media.tumblr.com image 350x307]



Why do you want to close Fark?
 
2013-04-09 12:14:14 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"


I'll be jeering when Bush 2 and Cheney die.

Also... only one minute? Why not, say, two? It somehow seems more appropriate.
 
2013-04-09 12:15:05 PM

Source4leko: /or do you get a friendly visit from the ghost of Reagan?


www.duelinginterests.com
 
2013-04-09 12:22:36 PM
Please read this before making dumb comments:

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/4906?cc=5901
 
2013-04-09 12:24:39 PM
Supporters should chant "We Won't Pay Your Poll Tax!" like the England fans did at the 1990 World Cup.
 
2013-04-09 12:25:25 PM
I hate the follow up tag because it is so ambiguous. How am I supposed to know how to feel about this without the appropriate tag? Asinine? Hero?

Help me out subby.
 
2013-04-09 12:25:30 PM
I'm not really sure posting any thread even remotely relating to Thatcher should be in the sports thread. Or any divisive political figure, for the matter.

/not that I care if a flamewar spills into here
//just sayin..
 
2013-04-09 12:26:21 PM
Why do the British people refuse to afford Margaret Thatcher the respect that American right-wing blogger-patriots think she deserves?
 
2013-04-09 12:33:03 PM

studs up: neversubmit: [25.media.tumblr.com image 350x307]


Why do you want to close Fark?


Ok, that's funny!
 
2013-04-09 12:33:24 PM

Trocadero: She "earned" that respect from soccer fans. Especially in Liverpool...


Um... THIS x1000

If they were asking, they'd be damn lucky that Liverpool aren't at home this weekend.

/Though Everton would almost certainly shiat on any moment of silence just as much
//Placing the over/under on "fark you, Thatcher" chants across EPL and FA Cup matches this week at 90.5
/Half from Merseyside fans alone
 
2013-04-09 12:33:43 PM

sigdiamond2000: Why do the British people refuse to afford Margaret Thatcher the respect that American right-wing blogger-patriots think she deserves?


They only elected her three times and are affording her the biggest funeral for a non royal since Churchill.  I mean come on, why are right wing Americans so in love with her but not the UK?
 
2013-04-09 12:33:52 PM

steamingpile: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Its funny, when most worldly people die like former prime ministers, heads of state, presidents, etc... everyone usually turns off the inner critic if but for a moment and we all do a collective Awe moment.

Here though, its like everyone standing around looking at each other with bewilderment and collectively asking each other "It's ok if we give he a fark off right? I mean really it's ok to jeer at some right?"

Its been drilled into simpletons heads the past 20 years that everyone should hate conservatives and if you don't you are a horrid, horrible, evil person.


They did that to themselves. If conservative economic ideology wasn't directly to blame for the widening income gaps throughout the free world, people wouldn't hate them nearly as much.

But in this case also, people remember her much more accurately than we do Reagan. Reagan was a strong president, not a necessarily good one--at least that's up for debate. In England--Thatcher, like Reagan, did right by her rich buddies. But in England, they know all too well that the majority of the population isn't the ultra wealthy.
 
2013-04-09 12:36:46 PM
I wonder if the penguins on the Falkland Islands will give her a minute of silence?  Or at least a herring.
 
2013-04-09 12:37:53 PM
Ding Dong.
 
2013-04-09 01:00:16 PM
It's funny because soccer fans are blue collar low class chavs
 
2013-04-09 01:07:24 PM
CUT THEIR GOOLIES OFF!
 
2013-04-09 01:10:00 PM
Ah, Our Betters In Europe strike again.
 
2013-04-09 01:15:15 PM

Hang On Voltaire: sigdiamond2000: Why do the British people refuse to afford Margaret Thatcher the respect that American right-wing blogger-patriots think she deserves?

They only elected her three times and are affording her the biggest funeral for a non royal since Churchill.  I mean come on, why are right wing Americans so in love with her but not the UK?


You're right. No one should be shocked when the Conservative run UK Government wants to hold a big fancy funeral for one of their own.

That's not hypocritical at all right?
 
2013-04-09 01:15:52 PM
This is easy.

1. Play the 'Hand of God' clip.
2. Play video of England blowing the shiat out of Argentina in the Falklands.
3. Show Thatcher.

Instant cheering.
 
2013-04-09 01:17:17 PM

TimonC346: .

They did that to themselves. If conservative economic ideology wasn't directly to blame for the widening income gaps throughout the free world, people wouldn't hate them nearly as much.

But in this case also, people remember her much more accurately than we do Reagan. Reagan was a strong president, not a necessarily good one--at least that's up for debate. In England--Thatcher, like Reagan, did right by her rich buddies. But in England, they know all too well that the majority of the population isn't the ultra wealthy.


As Thatcher would tell you, you would rather the poor were poorer so long as the rich are less rich.
 
2013-04-09 01:19:37 PM

Mrtraveler01: Hang On Voltaire: sigdiamond2000: Why do the British people refuse to afford Margaret Thatcher the respect that American right-wing blogger-patriots think she deserves?

They only elected her three times and are affording her the biggest funeral for a non royal since Churchill.  I mean come on, why are right wing Americans so in love with her but not the UK?

You're right. No one should be shocked when the Conservative run UK Government wants to hold a big fancy funeral for one of their own.

That's not hypocritical at all right?


Oh do fark off. If she'd karked it while Blair was still in No 10 she'd be getting a full state funeral.
 
2013-04-09 01:20:54 PM
Mrtraveler01:

You're right. No one should be shocked when the Conservative run UK Government wants to hold a big fancy funeral for one of their own.

That's not hypocritical at all right?


How is that hypocritical?  Exactly
 
2013-04-09 01:22:43 PM

Paddyb: Please read this before making dumb comments:

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/4906?cc=5901


So. . . . .Her idea was to keep soccer fans from being deadly, savage shiatheads?  And on top of that to divert public funds away from building stadiums for privately owned teams?
 
2013-04-09 01:32:58 PM

Paddyb: Please read this before making dumb comments:

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/4906?cc=5901


Good man, was about to post this myself for steamingpile
 
2013-04-09 01:40:30 PM
A lot of celebration on Facebook about Thatcher's death ... which I don't understand.

It's not like she was the current PM, or was planning world domination, or whatever. She was retired, elderly, and marginally relevant in current world politics. So how would the world be worse today if she hadn't died yesterday? The answer is: not one bit.

Anyone claiming her death - or that of any politician, current or former - is a good thing is clearly too stupid to take seriously.

(Note: I'm American and too young for any of her policies to have made a bit of difference in my life while she was PM, so I really don't care about her any more than anyone else. Debate history, policy, or political philosophy without resorting to childish and unwarranted emotional pleading, a large part of what's wrong with modern political discourse.)
 
2013-04-09 01:46:45 PM

Lernaeus: A lot of celebration on Facebook about Thatcher's death ... which I don't understand.

It's not like she was the current PM, or was planning world domination, or whatever. She was retired, elderly, and marginally relevant in current world politics. So how would the world be worse today if she hadn't died yesterday? The answer is: not one bit.

Anyone claiming her death - or that of any politician, current or former - is a good thing is clearly too stupid to take seriously.

(Note: I'm American and too young for any of her policies to have made a bit of difference in my life while she was PM, so I really don't care about her any more than anyone else. Debate history, policy, or political philosophy without resorting to childish and unwarranted emotional pleading, a large part of what's wrong with modern political discourse.)


Go up to the north of England and Ireland, ask anyone over the age of 30 why the celebrations, and you'll get your answer. Ask the miners at Orgreave, ask the poor and middle class that was affected by the stubbord poll tax why the celebrations, ask the families of soldiers who died in the Falklands what was the purpose of their fight? You'll find your answers.
 
2013-04-09 01:46:50 PM

studs up: steamingpile: I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her

No hate like liberal hate
T-Shirts for sale in the lobby


Their behavior proves Progs  really do hate women
 
2013-04-09 01:53:15 PM

Lernaeus: A lot of celebration on Facebook about Thatcher's death ... which I don't understand.

It's not like she was the current PM, or was planning world domination, or whatever. She was retired, elderly, and marginally relevant in current world politics. So how would the world be worse today if she hadn't died yesterday? The answer is: not one bit.

Anyone claiming her death - or that of any politician, current or former - is a good thing is clearly too stupid to take seriously.

(Note: I'm American and too young for any of her policies to have made a bit of difference in my life while she was PM, so I really don't care about her any more than anyone else. Debate history, policy, or political philosophy without resorting to childish and unwarranted emotional pleading, a large part of what's wrong with modern political discourse.)


People aren't celebrating her death because they think Britain is a better place now she's gone, we are celebrating the hopefully painful demise of a rancid bitter old bag of shiat who deliberately and maliciously destroyed large parts of this country because they would not vote for her.
 
2013-04-09 02:01:40 PM

Clemkadidlefark: studs up: steamingpile: I don't understand why people are pissed, its not like she's in charge of the police, but people keep blaming her

No hate like liberal hate
T-Shirts for sale in the lobby

Their behavior proves Progs  really do hate women


we are obligated to support all women regardless of their reprehensible policies?

/good riddance to old rubbish
 
2013-04-09 02:02:31 PM

inert: Lernaeus: A lot of celebration on Facebook about Thatcher's death ... which I don't understand.

It's not like she was the current PM, or was planning world domination, or whatever. She was retired, elderly, and marginally relevant in current world politics. So how would the world be worse today if she hadn't died yesterday? The answer is: not one bit.

Anyone claiming her death - or that of any politician, current or former - is a good thing is clearly too stupid to take seriously.

(Note: I'm American and too young for any of her policies to have made a bit of difference in my life while she was PM, so I really don't care about her any more than anyone else. Debate history, policy, or political philosophy without resorting to childish and unwarranted emotional pleading, a large part of what's wrong with modern political discourse.)

People aren't celebrating her death because they think Britain is a better place now she's gone, we are celebrating the hopefully painful demise of a rancid bitter old bag of shiat who deliberately and maliciously destroyed large parts of this country because they would not vote for her.


You listening Flyover Country? YOU LISTENING? Yeah, you are listening. We got our eye on you.
 
2013-04-09 02:12:09 PM
Apparently the mods forgot to post this admonition from when Ted Kennedy died so I'll do it for them...


i.imgur.com
/R.I.P. Dear lady.
 
2013-04-09 02:15:41 PM
The fact that so many of us still have not learnt the lessons of the 1970s does not bode well for the UK's future. Britain is always going to be a "Curate's Egg" country so far as I can see. Like Italy, world class at some things, but overall second rate.

It's 40 years later ffs and still there are 'tards blaming Thatcher for a mess made by her predecessors!
The damage was done by 1979, the incompetant previous drivers had f*cked the car and driven it without oil for decades. It was just a case of how painful the repair bill was going to be. Thatcher did a partial stripdown but the shrieks of outrage when people saw the bits of engine all over the workshop floor were so loud it was only ever partial.
 
2013-04-09 02:25:17 PM

Lernaeus: (Note: I'm American and too young for any of her policies to have made a bit of difference in my life while she was PM, so I really don't care about her any more than anyone else. Debate history, policy, or political philosophy without resorting to childish and unwarranted emotional pleading, a large part of what's wrong with modern political discourse.)


Actually, Thatcher's politics most definitely affects your life today, and will for the forseeable future. Margaret Thatcher didn't invent most of the tactics she used nor thought up the ideas she pushed, but she redefined what it meant to be a politician. Thatcher made it OK to not compromise on anything ever (sound like anyone we know here in America?), to use any tactic necessary to achieve your ends, consequences be damned. To never have a shred of self-awareness as to question the path you're taking- THAT is what Margaret Thatcher stood for, and there are so many politicians today who have modeled themselves, knowingly or unknowingly, after her.
 
2013-04-09 02:27:38 PM

illannoyin: Apparently the mods forgot to post this admonition from when Ted Kennedy died so I'll do it for them...


[i.imgur.com image 850x82]
/R.I.P. Dear lady.


RIP free speech.
Unless you are a mod, fark off.
 
2013-04-09 02:29:47 PM
Keep your mouth shut for one minute, then sing songs. Along her a slag all game. Maybe mix in a racist chant for some reason
 
2013-04-09 02:40:05 PM
Dave Whelan hasn't held a minutes silence in his life.
 
2013-04-09 02:42:48 PM

fireclown: Paddyb: Please read this before making dumb comments:

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/espnfcunited/id/4906?cc=5901

So. . . . .Her idea was to keep soccer fans from being deadly, savage shiatheads?  And on top of that to divert public funds away from building stadiums for privately owned teams?


Her idea was to keep people from finding out that the police were deadly, savage, shiatheads. She ordered a cover up.
 
2013-04-09 02:47:56 PM
Stop giving free milk to kids (even rich kids) in school. Good.

Calling Mandela a terrorist. Bad.

Privatising industry. Good.

Wanting clemancy to Pinochet. Bad.

Rescuing the people of the Falklands. Good.

Poll tax. Bad.

Having foresight of Keeping us out of being too closely paired to Europe and being the next Greece/Spain/Ireland/Italy/Cypress . Good

Hillsborough. Bad.

Breaking the corrupt unions. Good.

Lowering tax on rich whilst increasing tax on poor. Bad.


She's really a mixed bag. Depends on your individual take. There are things to like and hate about her depending on where you place your focus.
 
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