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(USGS) NewsFlash 6.3 magnitude earthquake in Iran. And nothing of value was lost   (earthquake.usgs.gov) divider line 53
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  2013-04-09 10:01:11 AM
12 votes:
The Iranian people, as opposed to the Iranian government are some of the most cosmopolitan, moderate, well-educated, and Pro-western people living in the Middle East. That the Iranian government does not match the Iranian people is largely OUR (by which I mean the US' fault)In the early 1950's Iran had a democratic government headed by Mohammad Mosaddegha western-educated (Paris, Switzerland) lawyer and university professor, who was bent on reforming his nation and bringing into the 21st century as a modern democracy after throwing off the autocratic rule of a British puppet-shah after WWII.. However he committed the unpardonable sin of wanting to reform the ridiculously unfair contracts the British oil company, Anglo-Iranian Oil, had literally forced the previous government to sign at gunpoint. Since Britain's post war recovery was relying on that cheap oil, Churchill convinced Truman to send in the CIA (In the form of Teddy Roosevelt's grandkid Kermit) to overthrow the professor, and re-install a barely literate Horse groomer who was technically next in line as the new Shah. With the US's open support the Shah ruled as a dictator for the next twenty years keeping the population in line with a brutal secret police unit. The SAVAK was particularly brutal in suppressing the Shi'ite clerics as they represented a potential rival power base to the Shah's rule. As a result the Shi'ite leaders radicalized and became militant, and thus formed the backbone of the revolution that ousted the Shah, which allowed them to seize power and install a theocracy (this sounding just a bit familiar? Like what's happening right now in Egypt?). So, subby be as annoyed at the Iranian government as you like, but don't close your eyes to the fact that it only exists because of the US playing "the game of thrones
  2013-04-09 09:39:52 AM
12 votes:
Go fark yourself, Subby. Iranians are people.
  2013-04-09 09:37:33 AM
10 votes:
That's not nice, subby. A majority of Iranians don't at all support the regime, and like many aspects of Western culture. It's not entirely their fault that their leadership sucks.

/More importantly, Persian women are hot.
MFK
  2013-04-09 09:46:48 AM
6 votes:
DamnYankees: Go fark yourself, Subby. Iranians are people.

seriously subby, You suck. Your headline was bad and you should feel bad for even thinking it let alone posting it.
  2013-04-09 09:55:58 AM
4 votes:
Sub's headline proves the rule:

Dicks get clicks.
  2013-04-09 09:43:44 AM
4 votes:
Headline isn't even funny. If you're going to be offensive, be funny at least.
  2013-04-09 09:41:22 AM
4 votes:
Most Iranian people aren't bad.

If their leaders fell into a bottomless pit though...I'd be ok with that.
  2013-04-09 09:43:18 AM
3 votes:
That's right subby, Iran is nothing but suicide bombers. There's no way it could be full of millions of people who just happened to born there and simply wish to live their lives.
  2013-04-09 09:40:00 AM
3 votes:
Half Right: That's not nice, subby. A majority of Iranians don't at all support the regime, and like many aspects of Western culture. It's not entirely their fault that their leadership sucks.

/More importantly, Persian women are hot.


I agree with all of this and also all the Iranian people I've met have been wonderful, friendly and insanely smart people. Sometimes people's worldviews are terrible because they are just ignorant.
  2013-04-09 09:37:45 AM
3 votes:
Not everyone in Iran is an extremist asshole.
  2013-04-09 11:02:49 AM
2 votes:
liam76: I have heard those rumors abotu the funeral, but seen aboslutly no proof.

At least for the memorial, my mother-in-law was physically there and spoke with a few of the mourners. Well, "spoke", since they didn't share a common language.

liam76: People in this thread are putting the average Iranians on a pedastal, and haven't presented anything to really back up what they are saying.

Aside from the fact that the 20-somethings I'm referencing basically shut down the country for a few weeks during their "Green Revolution" protests. There's a strong rural/urban dichotomy in the country. The urban population is the one that Farkers tend to have experience with- these are the people who use the web, who tweet and IM and use TOR nodes. When we talk about the "Western" Iranian, that's really who we're talking about.

But then there's the rural population. And you're 100% right about the rural population. The urban Iranians call them "villagers", we'd call them "rednecks" in the US. And much like the "send all the Indians back to Africa" derpers we have here who wrap themselves in the American flag, the Bible, and ignorance, the villagers wrap themselves in the Iranian flag, the Quran, and ignorance.
  2013-04-09 10:59:31 AM
2 votes:
t3knomanser: liam76: Fun fact, if you are using self selecting samples and only looking at raw numbers you can't really make a claim about a country being the "most" anything

I'm not making scientific claims, just observing general trends and making general statements. The fact that enough respondents came in from Iran, a nation that blocks huge swathes of the Internet, to even register demonstrates a higher-than-average interest in atheism.

Iran has a strong, but quiet, atheist population. They also have a great metal scene. And when you go to someone's house, you'll be hard pressed to leave without having a glass of wine.

And yes, popular sentiment is against the government, and why wouldn't it be? The nation is run by incompetent kleptocrats. While the older population still remembers the Iran/Iraq War and may hold some loyalty, it's the post-war Iranian baby-boomers who don't. And just like the American baby-boomers of a generation before, they're a large population discovering progressivism in their 20s. Ironically, these 20-somethings are the largest threat to the government, and they exist because the government actively encouraged their parents to produce large families to replace the generation lost in revolution and hideous war.

More fun facts from Iran:
At the 30-year memorial for Khomeni, they had to ship in mourners from the hinterlands and other countries to make the memorial look good. They couldn't find enough people in Iran willing to attend. Many of them didn't even speak Farsi.

A Persian tradition is to throw coins at a coffin as it passes. At Khomeni's original funeral, people weren't throwing coins- they loved him so much they were throwing bills. The bills were wrapped in dogshiat, but hey, bills!


According to "The Ayatollah Begs to Differ," that description of Iranian society only covers the educated, affluent city folk, who are VASTLY outnumbered by an extremely religious, undereducated population outside Tehran. And the second group gets larger every day, because the revolutionaries wrecked the education system.

That's why there's an Islamic Republic in the first place. The revolution against the Shah was mainly led by secular leftists, but when they held elections, the religious fundamentalists wiped out all the other parties.
  2013-04-09 10:14:33 AM
2 votes:
flyin1: Read history, we are reaping that which we have sown.

Well, sadly, Iranians are reaping what we've sown.
  2013-04-09 10:13:13 AM
2 votes:
All this Iran negativity.  If people actually knew the history of the last one hundred years of Iran, it is obvious why they have antipathy towards the U.S. (removing a democratically elected president and installing a corrupt Shah who stole billions $ from the country and massacred his own people).  Read history, we are reaping that which we have sown.
  2013-04-09 10:06:12 AM
2 votes:
F*ck you, subby.
  2013-04-09 10:05:29 AM
2 votes:
If subby were a televangelist he would have seen a spike in his donations. But because this is FARK... DIAF?
  2013-04-09 10:02:08 AM
2 votes:
So, you mean no oil wells, pipelines, or storage facilities were damaged? Super! That way we'll have less to repair when we invade Iran. For oil. No, wait, democracy. No, wait, democracy and oil.
  2013-04-09 10:00:29 AM
2 votes:
elleeffe: everything starts to shake - we immediately evacuate the building [i work in an oil company, so we take evacuations pretty seriously, even when they are drills]
can't go back to fetch car keys, wallet, phone - the building needs to be assessed for damages.


Man, I worked for a chemical company and we also took evacuations very seriously.

Which is why my car keys and wallet were always on my person. Didn't have one of those cell phone thingies back in the day.
  2013-04-09 09:56:37 AM
2 votes:
DIAE submitter
  2013-04-09 09:54:44 AM
2 votes:
Dick headline, Subby. Dick headline.
  2013-04-09 09:53:50 AM
2 votes:
I don't really like religious fundamentalists either, but 1. not everyone in Iran is a fundamentalist and b. even if they were, it would be wrong to celebrate such a disaster happening to them.
  2013-04-09 09:44:18 AM
2 votes:
elleeffe: Shat my pants... pretty much.
In the office in Doha, Qatar - conveniently located on the opposite side of the arabian gulf..
everything starts to shake - we immediately evacuate the building [i work in an oil company, so we take evacuations pretty seriously, even when they are drills]
can't go back to fetch car keys, wallet, phone - the building needs to be assessed for damages.
and then, the security guards tell us to vacate the area [straight on the sea, lovely view] and to reach a high point as soon as possible due to a potential Tzunami alert..
it sucks people - managed to get home now, thank goodness one of the few 'higher points' in a completely deserted and flat land, and I am pretty shook up.
i hope everyone in Qatar is safe...


They invented these things called pockets.  Check into them....
  2013-04-09 01:37:01 PM
1 votes:
No Such Agency: dv-ous:
And the poor sots are packed nose-to-tail in Tehran, which makes it a very attractive target for the spaceborne earthquake ray we used to fly around on the space shut-.... huh, must be mounted on the ISS now.

Oh how cute, he thinks they stopped flying the Space Shuttle.  They did.  On NON-military missions.


Hey, a new stupidhead conspiracy theory. Where are they conducting those stealth shuttle launches again? Because, kind of hard to hide that exhaust trail. Also, too, are all those shuttles now on permanent museum display mockups?
  2013-04-09 01:16:01 PM
1 votes:
ginandbacon: The fact that this headline got greened justifies some real soul-searching on this site.

And yet it won't.  Because some largely terrible people occasionally make a mildly funny joke.
  2013-04-09 12:00:29 PM
1 votes:
+HARP+
  2013-04-09 11:29:36 AM
1 votes:
sethen320: Yes but I believe subby was referring to the fact that they are brown.

Well, some of them. Aryans are still the largest ethnic group in Iran (Iran and Aryan derive from the same roots). But they still have a funny religion.
  2013-04-09 11:21:12 AM
1 votes:
mbillips: make me some tea: Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: How bad is a 6.3 anyway? Isn't that like, 1000 times weaker than the one that hit Japan? We don't get quakes here, so I don't know these things...

For buildings built to modern earthquake-resistant architecture, a 6.3 generally would not be a huge concern. However, we're talking about Iran here...

A 6.3 demolished or critically damaged most of downtown Christchurch, NZ, in 2011; they've had to tear down a lot of modern architecture. It depends on how close to the buildings the earthquake occurs.

If this happened near an older Iranian city, the death toll could run into the tens of thousands, just from collapsed masonry.

Which brings us back to what a dick subby is.


It also depends on the type of fault triggered, the depth of it, and the makeup of the bedrock. If it's a deeper fault the shock is going to be more spread out, and therefore have less of an effect on surface structures. If it's a couple of kms down, it will likely cause a lot more damage to the epicenter and areas around it because the shock is more concentrated. The type of fault also comes into play, if it's a normal/reverse/thrust fault (one side pushing vertically against the other), the damage can be more acute than a lateral strike-slip (one side pushing horizontally against the other). Additionally, if the bedrock is more sandy, the effects will be more acute because the ground is more fluid and therefore will distort more readily than solid rock.

www.suu.edu

According to USGS, this one's 10km deep, which is pretty shallow considering.

And yes, subby is a dick.
  2013-04-09 11:12:33 AM
1 votes:
make me some tea: Got you to click on the thread though, didn't it?

Yeah it did. But then a less dickish headline would have too. I love troll headlines, however there is a fine line between troll-ish and asshole-ish. You're still going to get clicks with the former, but the latter may cause you to lose future clicks. Hell, even the link was terrible since the reason this was story is that the epicenter is very near Iran's nuclear testing site. This earthquake could have serious implications to international relations, but instead we are talking about an assholic headline.
  2013-04-09 11:06:31 AM
1 votes:
t3knomanser: liam76: I have heard those rumors abotu the funeral, but seen aboslutly no proof.

At least for the memorial, my mother-in-law was physically there and spoke with a few of the mourners. Well, "spoke", since they didn't share a common language.


Old people love trumors, news at 11.


t3knomanser: Aside from the fact that the 20-somethings I'm referencing basically shut down the country for a few weeks during their "Green Revolution" protests.

I don't think you can say they shut down the country.  They gave the leadership a big black eye, btu that was abotu it.

That is the wishful thinking I am talking about.  I hope and wish I was wrong dude, but I don't think they are the majority.  Maybe in 10 years...
  2013-04-09 11:06:00 AM
1 votes:
Parmenius: flyin1: All this Iran negativity.  If people actually knew the history of the last one hundred years of Iran, it is obvious why they have antipathy towards the U.S. (removing a democratically elected president and installing a corrupt Shah who stole billions $ from the country and massacred his own people).  Read history, we are reaping that which we have sown.

It's important to at some point recognize that not everything that's happened since an event 60 years ago is the US's fault.  Islamic extremism started well before that and has continued under its own power.

That said, nobody deserves to have an earthquake wished upon them, even by the most trolltastic asshole.


The current regime was put in place by a popular uprising of the people who were being subjected to massacres and corruption by the Shah.  The Islam extremists were a response to the murderous despot that was put in place by the U.S. and Great Britain against a popular democratically-elected president-- in times of despair people turned to their religious leaders and this is the result.  We (anglo-americans) created this problem in the name of oil profits being placed above the will of the people.  Read your history.
  2013-04-09 11:03:09 AM
1 votes:
t3knomanser: liam76: Fun fact, if you are using self selecting samples and only looking at raw numbers you can't really make a claim about a country being the "most" anything

I'm not making scientific claims, just observing general trends and making general statements. The fact that enough respondents came in from Iran, a nation that blocks huge swathes of the Internet, to even register demonstrates a higher-than-average interest in atheism.

Iran has a strong, but quiet, atheist population. They also have a great metal scene. And when you go to someone's house, you'll be hard pressed to leave without having a glass of wine.

And yes, popular sentiment is against the government, and why wouldn't it be? The nation is run by incompetent kleptocrats. While the older population still remembers the Iran/Iraq War and may hold some loyalty, it's the post-war Iranian baby-boomers who don't. And just like the American baby-boomers of a generation before, they're a large population discovering progressivism in their 20s. Ironically, these 20-somethings are the largest threat to the government, and they exist because the government actively encouraged their parents to produce large families to replace the generation lost in revolution and hideous war.

More fun facts from Iran:
At the 30-year memorial for Khomeni, they had to ship in mourners from the hinterlands and other countries to make the memorial look good. They couldn't find enough people in Iran willing to attend. Many of them didn't even speak Farsi.

A Persian tradition is to throw coins at a coffin as it passes. At Khomeni's original funeral, people weren't throwing coins- they loved him so much they were throwing bills. The bills were wrapped in dogshiat, but hey, bills!


There are also a fair Number of "Burners" or would-be Burners (folks who idenitfy with the kind of culture and shennanigans on display at Burning Man every year) in Iran, I know, because I know an insanely Brave Iranian American who threw a clandestine Regional burn in a village outside of Tehran (his relative was muckey-muck in the local religious police and deeply susceptible to being bribed to look elsewhere that night.  Some of the stories he told, including one of a famous Iranian actress who was risking Jail or a public whipping just to show up, much less dance,   really broke my heart.  It's sad to think of people with that much of a desire to be free , and so little hope of ever achieving it.
  2013-04-09 10:53:56 AM
1 votes:
t3knomanser: liam76: Fun fact, if you are using self selecting samples and only looking at raw numbers you can't really make a claim about a country being the "most" anything

I'm not making scientific claims, just observing general trends and making general statements. The fact that enough respondents came in from Iran, a nation that blocks huge swathes of the Internet, to even register demonstrates a higher-than-average interest in atheism.

Iran has a strong, but quiet, atheist population. They also have a great metal scene. And when you go to someone's house, you'll be hard pressed to leave without having a glass of wine.

And yes, popular sentiment is against the government, and why wouldn't it be? The nation is run by incompetent kleptocrats. While the older population still remembers the Iran/Iraq War and may hold some loyalty, it's the post-war Iranian baby-boomers who don't. And just like the American baby-boomers of a generation before, they're a large population discovering progressivism in their 20s. Ironically, these 20-somethings are the largest threat to the government, and they exist because the government actively encouraged their parents to produce large families to replace the generation lost in revolution and hideous war.

More fun facts from Iran:
At the 30-year memorial for Khomeni, they had to ship in mourners from the hinterlands and other countries to make the memorial look good. They couldn't find enough people in Iran willing to attend. Many of them didn't even speak Farsi.

A Persian tradition is to throw coins at a coffin as it passes. At Khomeni's original funeral, people weren't throwing coins- they loved him so much they were throwing bills. The bills were wrapped in dogshiat, but hey, bills!


I have a few buddies from Iran (I used to work in the oil business in Indonseia and Egypt, a lot of expat co-workers), so I have no illusions about them all buying into the BS of their leaders.

But I have never seen a poll or anything else ot lead me to believe most people are against the Ayatollah.

I have heard those rumors abotu the funeral, but seen aboslutly no proof.

Basically I am saying ti woudl be great if you are right, but it all sounds like wishful thinking to me.  People in this thread are putting the average Iranians on a pedastal, and haven't presented anything to really back up what they are saying.

Which is all off topic, because no matter what most of them believe the average joe there doesn't have a hand in a crime that makes it ok to get happy that a earthquake hit.  That is WBC level of derp, and is inexcuesable, not just inexcuseable if you think most don't like the ayatollah or are into heavy metal.
  2013-04-09 10:51:31 AM
1 votes:
wxboy: According to CNN it is.

Also today is apparently National Nuclear Day in Iran.


Any guesses on who are they going to blame for this earthquake ?

1. Allah
2. The fact that Iran sits between the arabian tactonic plate and the eurasian plate
3. Jews
  2013-04-09 10:50:06 AM
1 votes:
macadamnut: Louisiana_Sitar_Club: macadamnut: Says America, the world's Arkansas.

I was considering saying something but then I read your profile and saw that you're a card carrying troll.  That takes all the fun out of it.   :(     You should be more covert.


Louisiana, Arkansas's power bottom.


I don't care what that other guy says you're funny.
  2013-04-09 10:48:19 AM
1 votes:
The fact that this headline got greened justifies some real soul-searching on this site. 

What an awful way to start a discussion about a disaster.
  2013-04-09 10:38:05 AM
1 votes:
liam76: Fun fact, if you are using self selecting samples and only looking at raw numbers you can't really make a claim about a country being the "most" anything

I'm not making scientific claims, just observing general trends and making general statements. The fact that enough respondents came in from Iran, a nation that blocks huge swathes of the Internet, to even register demonstrates a higher-than-average interest in atheism.

Iran has a strong, but quiet, atheist population. They also have a great metal scene. And when you go to someone's house, you'll be hard pressed to leave without having a glass of wine.

And yes, popular sentiment is against the government, and why wouldn't it be? The nation is run by incompetent kleptocrats. While the older population still remembers the Iran/Iraq War and may hold some loyalty, it's the post-war Iranian baby-boomers who don't. And just like the American baby-boomers of a generation before, they're a large population discovering progressivism in their 20s. Ironically, these 20-somethings are the largest threat to the government, and they exist because the government actively encouraged their parents to produce large families to replace the generation lost in revolution and hideous war.

More fun facts from Iran:
At the 30-year memorial for Khomeni, they had to ship in mourners from the hinterlands and other countries to make the memorial look good. They couldn't find enough people in Iran willing to attend. Many of them didn't even speak Farsi.

A Persian tradition is to throw coins at a coffin as it passes. At Khomeni's original funeral, people weren't throwing coins- they loved him so much they were throwing bills. The bills were wrapped in dogshiat, but hey, bills!
  2013-04-09 10:26:38 AM
1 votes:
Comic Book Guy: I wonder if Bandar Bushehr is the same Bushehr that one of Iran's nuclear reactors is at.

According to CNN it is.

Also today is apparently National Nuclear Day in Iran.
  2013-04-09 10:24:41 AM
1 votes:
t3knomanser: Klippoklondike: If their leaders fell into a bottomless pit though...I'd be ok with that.

Most Iranians would be perfectly happy with that, too.

Fun fact: Iran is one of the more atheist countries in the world (currently ranking at #10 on the Atheist Census, which is a bit of a self-selecting sample), and definitely one of the most in the Middle East (Turkey being the most secular in the region).


I doubt if "Most" would be happy witht hat.  But woudl be interested in any polling data you have tot hat effect.

Fun fact, if you are using self selecting samples and only looking at raw numbers you can't really make a claim about a country being the "most" anything.
  2013-04-09 10:11:51 AM
1 votes:
CheatCommando: elleeffe: everything starts to shake - we immediately evacuate the building [i work in an oil company, so we take evacuations pretty seriously, even when they are drills]
can't go back to fetch car keys, wallet, phone - the building needs to be assessed for damages.

Man, I worked for a chemical company and we also took evacuations very seriously.

Which is why my car keys and wallet were always on my person. Didn't have one of those cell phone thingies back in the day.


dude, the building is only offices.. our stuff is all offshore.. the most dangerous thing one can expect when in the office onshore is a paper cut
  2013-04-09 10:10:37 AM
1 votes:
Really admins? There are several towns in the area that aren't designed to withstand earthquakes of that magnitude(Insert Star Wars joke here).  Are you saying that the lives of average Iranians, most of whom want a change in government, are worthless?
  2013-04-09 10:07:53 AM
1 votes:
Klippoklondike: If their leaders fell into a bottomless pit though...I'd be ok with that.

Most Iranians would be perfectly happy with that, too.

Fun fact: Iran is one of the more atheist countries in the world (currently ranking at #10 on the Atheist Census, which is a bit of a self-selecting sample), and definitely one of the most in the Middle East (Turkey being the most secular in the region).
  2013-04-09 10:04:13 AM
1 votes:
Bitter headline? Yes - but we all know 'merikuh will get blamed & hate-protested for this earthquake in the Iranian streets.
  2013-04-09 09:52:07 AM
1 votes:
I wonder if Bandar Bushehr is the same Bushehr that one of Iran's nuclear reactors is at.
  2013-04-09 09:48:19 AM
1 votes:
liam76: elleeffe: Shat my pants... pretty much.
In the office in Doha, Qatar - conveniently located on the opposite side of the arabian gulf..
everything starts to shake - we immediately evacuate the building [i work in an oil company, so we take evacuations pretty seriously, even when they are drills]
can't go back to fetch car keys, wallet, phone - the building needs to be assessed for damages.
and then, the security guards tell us to vacate the area [straight on the sea, lovely view] and to reach a high point as soon as possible due to a potential Tzunami alert..
it sucks people - managed to get home now, thank goodness one of the few 'higher points' in a completely deserted and flat land, and I am pretty shook up.
i hope everyone in Qatar is safe...

They invented these things called pockets.  Check into them....


I am a woman! we don't do pockets... they completely ruin the dress... i'd rather walk home for hours during an emer.... wait. :P
  2013-04-09 09:45:16 AM
1 votes:
Iran is like the NY Mets .  You may like the players, but boy do the guys up top really suck.
  2013-04-09 09:42:40 AM
1 votes:
That was a pretty trollific headline...
  2013-04-09 09:42:03 AM
1 votes:
Shat my pants... pretty much.
In the office in Doha, Qatar - conveniently located on the opposite side of the arabian gulf..
everything starts to shake - we immediately evacuate the building [i work in an oil company, so we take evacuations pretty seriously, even when they are drills]
can't go back to fetch car keys, wallet, phone - the building needs to be assessed for damages.
and then, the security guards tell us to vacate the area [straight on the sea, lovely view] and to reach a high point as soon as possible due to a potential Tzunami alert..
it sucks people - managed to get home now, thank goodness one of the few 'higher points' in a completely deserted and flat land, and I am pretty shook up.
i hope everyone in Qatar is safe...
  2013-04-09 09:38:26 AM
1 votes:
Well, that's just rude.
  2013-04-09 09:36:56 AM
1 votes:
Did you guys start the Two Minute Hate without me? DAMN YOU!!!
  2013-04-09 09:36:23 AM
1 votes:
Says America, the world's Arkansas.
  2013-04-09 09:36:10 AM
1 votes:
Rock the casbah!
  2013-04-09 09:34:05 AM
1 votes:
In before Zionists Tectonic Weapon.
  2013-04-09 09:33:36 AM
1 votes:
~fartz~
 
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