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(Salon)   Brad Paisley records a song called "Accidental Racist" explaining that the Confederate flag he's wearing on his shirt is just proclaiming his love for Lynyrd Skynyrd. What could possibly go wrong?   (salon.com) divider line 424
    More: Dumbass, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Confederate flag, Trace Adkins, LL Cool J  
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2013-04-09 09:39:12 AM
When I put on a swastika t-shirt, I only mean to say I'm a Buddhist.
 
2013-04-09 09:40:00 AM
Plane crash?
 
2013-04-09 09:45:02 AM
I really hope the B-side for the single release of "Accidental Racist" is "Gay-Sounding Name."
 
2013-04-09 09:45:17 AM
He's from West Virginia. You know, the state that saw the whole Confederacy thing going on and was like "Nah, we're going to do our own thing."
 
2013-04-09 09:49:48 AM
Personally, I think the song invites an interesting discussion.  Regardless of how you feel about the Confederate Flag.  People getting bent out of shape over the song (note:  NOT the flag, but the song and its lyrics) are just as Nolte and his movie "reviews" on Breitbart.

Look beneath the surface.
 
2013-04-09 09:50:02 AM
It's all OK, though, because he has a black guy singing verses with him explaining how hurt black people get when white people assuming that their gold chains and baggy pants means they're all thugs. That coupled with his in-depth exploration of the long-lasting effects of Reconstruction-era policies upon this country makes this song a true socio-economic exploration of the deeply divisive issues that still exist in America today because Skynyrd fans can't find the respect they deserve. Hopefully this will go a long way toward sparking a reunion tour and, finally, the long-overdue healing process that eventuality might help bring about.
 
2013-04-09 09:50:50 AM
"...just as silly as Nolte..."  that is.
 
2013-04-09 09:56:25 AM

Diogenes: Personally, I think the song invites an interesting discussion.  Regardless of how you feel about the Confederate Flag.  People getting bent out of shape over the song (note:  NOT the flag, but the song and its lyrics) are just as Nolte and his movie "reviews" on Breitbart.


I half-way agree with you. I think that it's silly to get bent out of shape about (although I also think it's silly to get bent out of shape about the confederate flag). BUT, and this is a big but, it's even more ridiculous to pretend that a) the confederate flag isn't racist, and b) that it's possible to be an "accidental racist" if you're under the age of 70. I get that he doesn't think the Confederate flag isn't a racist symbol, but he's wrong. As a society, we should very calmly tell him he's an idiot, then move on and ignore him for being an ignorant moron. Not write 500 articles about "OMG WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT AMERICA????"
 
2013-04-09 09:58:45 AM
The two parties come to a delicate accord, with LL Cool J rapping: "If you don't judge my do-rag / I won't judge your red flag / If you don't judge my gold chains / I'll forget the iron chains ... Let bygones be bygones."

Is it any wonder why Ladies Love Cool J? The guy has effectively lifted the stain of slavery in America like so much OxiClean.
 
2013-04-09 10:01:34 AM

Lusiphur: Diogenes: Personally, I think the song invites an interesting discussion.  Regardless of how you feel about the Confederate Flag.  People getting bent out of shape over the song (note:  NOT the flag, but the song and its lyrics) are just as Nolte and his movie "reviews" on Breitbart.

I half-way agree with you. I think that it's silly to get bent out of shape about (although I also think it's silly to get bent out of shape about the confederate flag). BUT, and this is a big but, it's even more ridiculous to pretend that a) the confederate flag isn't racist, and b) that it's possible to be an "accidental racist" if you're under the age of 70. I get that he doesn't think the Confederate flag isn't a racist symbol, but he's wrong. As a society, we should very calmly tell him he's an idiot, then move on and ignore him for being an ignorant moron. Not write 500 articles about "OMG WHAT DOES THIS SAY ABOUT AMERICA????"


On "a" no question.  On "b" I'm not so certain.  Ignorance doesn't need a motive.
 
2013-04-09 10:02:05 AM
Brad Paisley is just a simple man. He's a musician, constantly on tour, 7 days a week he sings to the crowds, where do the days go? Monday's gone. Tuesday's gone. He doesn't have time to be a racist. Saturday night's special concert was dedicated to Trayvon Martin, for cryin out loud!

That smell? Its lib desperation.
 
2013-04-09 10:11:10 AM
Did anyone mention that the song really sucks?
 
2013-04-09 10:11:34 AM
Yay, let's all pay more attention to the C&W Attention Whore, everyone.
 
2013-04-09 10:12:45 AM

Diogenes: On "b" I'm not so certain.  Ignorance doesn't need a motive.


I guess the question then sort of becomes: "Does racism require motivation?" With a good situation-specific follow-up being "Is it actually remotely valid to claim ignorance on this topic in the year 2013 in the United States for someone who isn't old enough to be somewhat senile?"

I would answer yes to the first question. Racism is a social convention, and not an obvious moral absolute (then again, what is?). So you have to be aware of racism to be truly racist.

On the follow-up, and regarding this specific situation though, I don't see how it's possible for anyone not to understand that they are being racist, and thus be an "accidental racist". Our society is thoroughly oozing with almost 300 years of failed race relations. To claim to be ignorant of this dynamic is lying, or at least being horribly lacking in self-awareness.
 
2013-04-09 10:15:47 AM
Look, this is a PR move by this halfwit C&W retard.  Treat as such and move on.  He's just wanting to get his face on the boobtube and get free publicity for his act.
 
2013-04-09 10:15:59 AM
While I'll admit it's possible a few of those wearing or flying confederate battle flags aren't racist, I can unequivocally say 100% of the ones I've met doing the same are.
 
2013-04-09 10:16:04 AM
"They called it Reconstruction, fixed the buildings, dried some tears / We're still siftin' through the rubble after a hundred-fifty years"

Your ancestors rebelled, they got their asses kicked, but it's hardly the only reason much of the south is a shiathole today.
 
2013-04-09 10:18:37 AM
his song "southern comfort zone" is actually quite progressive and brave. yes, really.
 
2013-04-09 10:24:08 AM

Krymson Tyde: While I'll admit it's possible a few of those wearing or flying confederate battle flags aren't racist, I can unequivocally say 100% of the ones I've met doing the same are.


I've met some that are just contrarian dickheads with a "fark you" attitude toward everything.  Shades of narcissism.  Not racist, just obvious attention whores.

Definitely a minority (if you'll forgive the pun), but some people are just jerks.  Their chosen symbols can be arbitrary.

Infernalist: Look, this is a PR move by this halfwit C&W retard.  Treat as such and move on.  He's just wanting to get his face on the boobtube and get free publicity for his act.


So, he's like many entertainers.
 
2013-04-09 10:34:45 AM
The Confederate flag isn't a flag of racism.

It's a flag of treason and failure.
 
2013-04-09 10:57:48 AM
NEWSFLASH: Country music performer writes song lyrics pandering to stereotypical country music fans.  Film at eleven!
 
2013-04-09 11:02:12 AM

Aarontology: The Confederate flag isn't a flag of racism.

It's a flag of treason and failure.


In the name of treating human beings as farm equipment because of their skin color.
 
2013-04-09 11:06:15 AM
There is no such thing as "accidental racism." It's not like you tripped on the sidewalk and, oops, now I'm a racist!

If the premise is that "When I put on that [confederate flag] T-shirt, the only thing I meant to say is I'm a Skynyrd fan," then the narrator is, at a minimum, oblivious. But since the song is a defense of wearing the t-shirt, one can assume that the narrator will continue to wear it in the future, despite the knowledge that it offends others, which now moves him into the realm of insensitive. And since he trumpets the fact that he's a "proud rebel son," one can only assume that he's fully aware of the reasons for that rebellion and is intending to endorse those reasons, which, yep, makes him a fully-aware and intentional racist.
 
2013-04-09 11:11:33 AM

WhoIsWillo: Aarontology: The Confederate flag isn't a flag of racism.

It's a flag of treason and failure.

In the name of treating human beings as farm equipment because of their skin color.


That's not entirely true. Sometimes they were used as kitchen appliances
 
2013-04-09 11:12:28 AM

shanrick: Did anyone mention that the song really sucks?


It's country. That goes without saying.
 
2013-04-09 11:12:34 AM
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I don't see the Skynyrd connection
 
2013-04-09 11:12:41 AM
I do believe someone drank the top of the shine then skipped to the bottom.
 
2013-04-09 11:12:45 AM
I'm not sure why LL Cool J would agree to the message in the song, other than being an AW himself.

The basis of the song seems to be "I'll let Confederate flags go, if you let me wear my baggy pants.... we all good now? :) "

But, the two are not equivocal.   The Confederate Flag is a representation of the south from when they didn't want to give up slavery.  Yes, blah blah blah about that there were other 'issues' in the civil war, or that it was a 'states rights' war.. the main issue of the civil war was the southern states not wanting to be told they had to get rid of slavery".... and Hitler was just a guy who wanted lots of land.  White people showing the flag are basically saying "Yeah.. we still wish we could go back to that mindset"... they may claim it is just "Southern Pride", but, there are other ways to show that.

The whole baggy pants and other "Ghetto" clothing, that is African americans own "expression"... and others may make assumptions based on that (they are drug dealers, thugs, etc), but, that clothing isn't trying to make a statement about OTHER groups... it is just making a statement about themselves.    How others perceive it, that is their own issues.  I may believe that it does make them look like thugs, but, that is my own perception... there is no "historical" factor in that being an "attack" on another group.
 
2013-04-09 11:13:36 AM
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2013-04-09 11:14:28 AM

WhoIsWillo: He's from West Virginia. You know, the state that saw the whole Confederacy thing going on and was like "Nah, we're going to do our own thing."


So the lyric "I'm just a white man comin' to you from the southland " is bullshiat. WV isn't the South. Everyone there may be a hick, but hick doesn't necessarily mean south.
 
2013-04-09 11:15:31 AM

Lusiphur: Diogenes: On "b" I'm not so certain.  Ignorance doesn't need a motive.

I guess the question then sort of becomes: "Does racism require motivation?" With a good situation-specific follow-up being "Is it actually remotely valid to claim ignorance on this topic in the year 2013 in the United States for someone who isn't old enough to be somewhat senile?"

I would answer yes to the first question. Racism is a social convention, and not an obvious moral absolute (then again, what is?). So you have to be aware of racism to be truly racist.

On the follow-up, and regarding this specific situation though, I don't see how it's possible for anyone not to understand that they are being racist, and thus be an "accidental racist". Our society is thoroughly oozing with almost 300 years of failed race relations. To claim to be ignorant of this dynamic is lying, or at least being horribly lacking in self-awareness.


"I never knew people looked at the "rebel flag" as a symbol of racism. Clearly, I have been in a coma for my entire life up to this point."
 
2013-04-09 11:16:44 AM
This would have been a poignant and important song 20 years ago. Today it's viewed with complete ridicule for being so out of touch. That itself shows how much progress we have made as a country.
 
2013-04-09 11:16:46 AM
The white pilow case with eyeholes is just cause I'm having a bad hair day and a case of the Mondays. Maybe youre the racist for thinking I'm racist.
 
2013-04-09 11:17:25 AM
Before someone says "Your average Confederate soldier didn't own slaves, so the war wasn't about slavery," I'd like to point out that the average German soldier in WWII didn't participate in the Holocaust.

So, if your grandfather was in the German army in WWII, fly that flag with PRIDE.

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2013-04-09 11:17:27 AM

jigger: WhoIsWillo: He's from West Virginia. You know, the state that saw the whole Confederacy thing going on and was like "Nah, we're going to do our own thing."

So the lyric "I'm just a white man comin' to you from the southland " is bullshiat. WV isn't the South. Everyone there may be a hick, but hick doesn't necessarily mean south.


And LLCoolJ is not and never was "from the ghetto". They are each playing their part in the stereotypes necessary for the song to work
 
2013-04-09 11:18:14 AM
A lot of butthurt Yankees ITT.
 
2013-04-09 11:18:40 AM
ATTENTION SOUTH
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It ended. You lost. You are not rebels. You are not appreciated. Now shut up.
 
2013-04-09 11:18:47 AM
The song implies that Reconstruction was a failure ("They called it Reconstruction, fixed the buildings, dried some tears / We're still siftin' through the rubble after a hundred-fifty years"),

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His people have truly suffered.

We're still paying their bills too.
 
2013-04-09 11:19:29 AM

Ned Stark: A lot of butthurt Yankees ITT.


Scoreboard.
 
2013-04-09 11:19:30 AM
Oh, and LL Cool J is involved, so it's all cool.

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2013-04-09 11:21:13 AM

Ned Stark: A lot of butthurt Yankees ITT.


Flying that damned flag 150 years after getting your ass beat is the epitome of butthurt.

Besides, when does a top have butthurt? The south was the bottom in that buttsecks analogy.
 
2013-04-09 11:22:05 AM
It must be so nice having the privilege to decide whether a symbol of treason in defense of slavery is racist or not.
 
2013-04-09 11:22:56 AM
Anyone else read that as "Accidental Rapist"?
 
2013-04-09 11:23:04 AM
the song is politically incorrect.
 
2013-04-09 11:23:45 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Ned Stark: A lot of butthurt Yankees ITT.

Flying that damned flag 150 years after getting your ass beat is the epitome of butthurt.

Besides, when does a top have butthurt? The south was the bottom in that buttsecks analogy.


Flying it may very well be butthurt.  Getting all worked up because some jackwagon yokel is flying it is also butthurt.  The war has been over for almost 150 years.  There is no reason to be bitter about it either way.
 
2013-04-09 11:24:41 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Ned Stark: A lot of butthurt Yankees ITT.

Flying that damned flag 150 years after getting your ass beat is the epitome of butthurt.

Besides, when does a top have butthurt? The south was the bottom in that buttsecks analogy.


Well the south got all the literal butthurt. Place is still wrekt.

But the butthurt of the soul can land anywhere.
 
2013-04-09 11:24:45 AM
I don't wear this klan hood due to racism, it's just part of my cultural heritage.
 
2013-04-09 11:25:25 AM
Up here in Sweden it's popular for rednecks to sport a Confederate flag. There's plenty of racism to it. Some will tell you they're just copying American rednecks, which really makes it no better. Even if they were better at irony.
 
2013-04-09 11:25:42 AM
When my bros and I go out and beat down an old funny Negro, we're just honoring the past.

/amidoinitrite?

There are places for historical items. Their called museums and private collections. And there are proper ways of displaying those items.
 
2013-04-09 11:25:43 AM

Nabb1: Flying it may very well be butthurt. Getting all worked up because some jackwagon yokel is flying it is also butthurt. The war has been over for almost 150 years. There is no reason to be bitter about it either way.


You mean unless your race was systematically treated as property, and then were subject for discrimination for another 100 years, and some people still wave the flag of their rebellion which was a direct result of a group of people wanting to maintain their right to own people as property, right?
 
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