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2013-04-09 10:58:49 AM
4 votes:

Prank Monkey: [citation needed]


The guy who shot three cops dead in Pittsburgh because they were "coming to take his guns" had numerous right-wing screeds in his possession by such notable idiots as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.

Jared Lee Loughner, though fundamentally more insane than anything else, was clearly ininfluenced by a number of what are traditionally right-wing, anti-government conspiracy theories.

Jim David Adkisson explicitly went out looking to "kill liberals, African-Americans, homosexuals" and made a kill list based off of Bernard Goldberg's book "100 People Who are Screwing Up America".

Timothy McVeigh was a far right anti-government lunatic.

Wade Michael Page was a white supremacist.

I don't know if I'd say somethign as specific as mass killers are usually republicans, but there's a pretty clear correlation between conservative ideology (and especially far-right ideology) and violence against people. Crazy-ass left-wingers seem to be more intent with burning down property and smashing windows. Crazy-ass right-wingers seem to have an unfortunate tendency to prefer shooting people or blowing them up.

It's almost like when you have multiple fat farks on TV and radio all day long vilifying people they disagree with as subhuman and blaming all of the world's ills on those people that some of the less stable viewers and listeners might not react in the most level-headed and responsible way.

If only there were a historical precedent for that type of propaganda and its eventual outcomes that we could learn from....
2013-04-09 10:51:13 AM
4 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters

Dick Cheney and his flying monkey minions in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


Does *everything* have to come out of your ass? That's some high-fiber diet you got there.

24.media.tumblr.com

\it was Cheney and his flunkies who outed Plame, proudly, to a douchebag reporter. We all knew who the criminal was right then
\\ I know, I know - "fact-free zone". Please proceed, Governor
2013-04-09 10:37:54 AM
4 votes:
Bonus: the information Winter got from her sources - which Aurora's* defense team is pushing her to release - is thought to be a boon for prosecutors, as it shows planning and a pattern of violence (which are blows against an insanity plea).

*he no longer gets a name - fame is what he wanted
2013-04-09 10:37:08 AM
4 votes:
Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"
2013-04-09 10:48:40 AM
3 votes:
This is why we have whistleblower protection laws (yes that are rarely followed). If you illegally obtain information and post it to the public, lets say I hacked someone's medical information and posted it online, that is breaking the law. You can't just claim that you are a reporter and suddenly its alright. Your actions need to serve the public good and there needs to be a reason you blew the whistle. This reporter has neither.
2013-04-09 10:45:07 AM
3 votes:
It is a sign a wisdom to be able to show compassion to those with whom you do not agree.
2013-04-09 10:44:06 AM
3 votes:
A story of a boy who cried excessively of a nonexistent wolf comes to mind.
2013-04-09 11:45:04 AM
2 votes:
The prospect that she may go to jail for doing her job is an outrage.

No, it's not. It's an occupational hazard of being a reporter.

Reporters don't have some sort of first amendment right to keep their sources confidential, nor do they (or should they) have immunity from subpoena. Even information that is confidential under most circumstances (such as medical records) is subject to subpoena.

Reporters do have the same option as any other citizen--to refuse to comply with the subpoena (which is Latin for "under penalty"), and take the consequences. In her case, consequences are likely to be incarceration until the end of the trial, at which point the information is no longer of any value.
2013-04-09 11:25:51 AM
2 votes:
There are lots of crazy people at way off both ends of the political spectrum.  The thing they all have in common is that they're farking crazy.
2013-04-09 11:19:19 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.


Since Fark is a liberal hotbed, you can presumably find examples posts on Fark saying they should be imprisoned for contempt until they reveal their sources. (Only one-quarter credit if you can find them saying they should be imprisoned for blowing Plame's cover; that's separate from not revealing their sources.)


Incidentally, how much air-time has Fox News been giving this? Because, noble-sounding legal platitudes and crap about "facilitating open exchange of information and ideas" aside, that's the ultimate basis for the Journalist's Privilege: the longstanding editorial tradition that anyone daring to mess with the press gets the full, undivided, and openly hostile attention of the editors behind the journalist at whatever media outlet, in as big a typeface as the front page will hold (or TV equivalent). It also usually draws support from other media outlets on good terms... but that's pretty sparse, for Fox News.
2013-04-09 11:17:24 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


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I didn't want reporters thrown in jail for the Plame leak. I wanted Cheney thrown in jail for it.
2013-04-09 11:10:36 AM
2 votes:

the.squid: Magorn: This always happens.  COntrary to popular belief there is no legal "reporter's privilege" the way there is for doctors, lawyers, priests , spouses, therapists, etc.   So what always happens is somebody get pissed over the leak, the reporter  is pressed to reveal thier source, they refuse, a judge orders them to do it, they still refuse, they go to jail for contempt of court,  much media hand-wringing ensues, at some point the judge realizes that the reporter is never going to comply, at which point they have the option of converting the case into a criminal contempt prosecution for which the reporter can get six months in jail, or letting the reporter go, which they invariably do.   So why do it at all? Because A) the law says they have to, and B) a lot of times there is hope that seeing the reporter rot in jial puts pressure on the source to out themselves

You are slightly off, as with many issues like this the US, there is no federal shield law to protect reporters from having to give up the identity of their sources, however many states do. Colorado does have a shield law but from what I can tell it allows for Judges to compel reporters to give up the identity of their sources if they can be found through no other means. To me that sounds like it means this law is largely useless and based on the fact that this reporter is facing jail time supports that.


Colorado's shield law is a qualified privilege that sounds all nice and steadfast until you get to the qualifications. Reporters have no legal protection if:
"(a) That the news information is directly relevant to a substantial issue involved in the proceedings;
(b) That the news information cannot be obtained by any other reasonable means; and
(c) That a strong interest of the party seeking to subpoena the news person outweighs the interests under the first amendment to the United States Constitution of such news person in not responding to a subpoena and of the general public in receiving news information."

From my perspective, (a) is applicable here, (b) hasn't been fully explored, and (c) is totally up the judge's discretion, rendering the shield law about as steadfast as a bowl of oatmeal.
2013-04-09 11:02:23 AM
2 votes:

PackofJokers: randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"

Man, it's a good thing there aren't any examples of the liberal MSM siding with Fox News in a conflict with a Democratic administration. Because that could be embarrassing for you.

And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude FOX News from pool coverage of interviews with a key official. It backed down after strong protests from the press."All the networks said, that's it, you've crossed the line," said CBS News White House correspondent Chip Reid.


And here's a post from Daily Kos, on their mainpage even, saying that this story needs more coverage.

But both sides are bad, etc.
2013-04-09 10:47:25 AM
2 votes:

Zalan: Yeah, it must get frustrating for the many(not all) conservatives who would deny rights to anyone who doesn't share their political views/values to see that the 'libruls' want to defend the rights of someone who works for the other team.


No, they won't notice it , so it won't infuriate them.
2013-04-09 10:42:17 AM
2 votes:
Fox News is not a reason to go after a press person. If there is legal reason to prosecute regardless of news affliation then go for it, if not then(much as I hate Fox News) it would be wrong to go after her.

Creates a bad precident and opens the door for more legal sniping on reporters if you don't have actual solid standing beyond affiliation.

Now back to the rest of the thread which will no doubt have the normal shills and trolls blaming liberals and so on so forth.
2013-04-09 10:42:13 AM
2 votes:

randomjsa: So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


What are you talking about? Mass-murdering gun nuts are usually, if not always, Republicans.
2013-04-09 10:40:31 AM
2 votes:
This always happens.  COntrary to popular belief there is no legal "reporter's privilege" the way there is for doctors, lawyers, priests , spouses, therapists, etc.   So what always happens is somebody get pissed over the leak, the reporter  is pressed to reveal thier source, they refuse, a judge orders them to do it, they still refuse, they go to jail for contempt of court,  much media hand-wringing ensues, at some point the judge realizes that the reporter is never going to comply, at which point they have the option of converting the case into a criminal contempt prosecution for which the reporter can get six months in jail, or letting the reporter go, which they invariably do.   So why do it at all? Because A) the law says they have to, and B) a lot of times there is hope that seeing the reporter rot in jial puts pressure on the source to out themselves
2013-04-09 10:39:01 AM
2 votes:
Yeah, it must get frustrating for the many(not all) conservatives who would deny rights to anyone who doesn't share their political views/values to see that the 'libruls' want to defend the rights of someone who works for the other team.
2013-04-09 10:38:26 AM
2 votes:
Jana Winter, a dogged and capable reporter who writes for Fox News' web site, is being by an overzealous Colorado judge who wants her to reveal her sources.

Lol, it's Fox News......they make up most of their "sources".
2013-04-09 10:38:08 AM
2 votes:
Maybe it's because the judge placed a gag order preventing anyone associated with the case to blab and it's clear she got her scoops from someone associated with the case?

Crazy talk and all but...
2013-04-09 08:51:25 PM
1 votes:

abiigdog: skozlaw: Prank Monkey: [citation needed]

The guy who shot three cops dead in Pittsburgh because they were "coming to take his guns" had numerous right-wing screeds in his possession by such notable idiots as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.

Jared Lee Loughner, though fundamentally more insane than anything else, was clearly ininfluenced by a number of what are traditionally right-wing, anti-government conspiracy theories.

Jim David Adkisson explicitly went out looking to "kill liberals, African-Americans, homosexuals" and made a kill list based off of Bernard Goldberg's book "100 People Who are Screwing Up America".

Timothy McVeigh was a far right anti-government lunatic.

Wade Michael Page was a white supremacist.

I don't know if I'd say somethign as specific as mass killers are usually republicans, but there's a pretty clear correlation between conservative ideology (and especially far-right ideology) and violence against people. Crazy-ass left-wingers seem to be more intent with burning down property and smashing windows. Crazy-ass right-wingers seem to have an unfortunate tendency to prefer shooting people or blowing them up.

It's almost like when you have multiple fat farks on TV and radio all day long vilifying people they disagree with as subhuman and blaming all of the world's ills on those people that some of the less stable viewers and listeners might not react in the most level-headed and responsible way.

If only there were a historical precedent for that type of propaganda and its eventual outcomes that we could learn from....

Are you high, Mcveigh's motive was revenge for Weaver and Waco and notably absent from your list are all the left wing whacko killings, is the L broken in google search for you?


Up to you dog to provide that list.  He showed his cards, you show yours, or you walk and your money stays.
2013-04-09 04:59:36 PM
1 votes:

JesusJuice: Fox News is a propaganda outlet and none of their employees should be considered journalists.  This woman is nothing more than a corporate stooge who's breaking the law.  Send her to prison and call it a good start.


It ain't good trollin' if you gotta post it twice.

3/10
2013-04-09 04:59:11 PM
1 votes:
She can't work for Fox News.  She isn't hot.  That'd be like an A-cup working at Hooters.  Say what you will about Faux News, they do have standards.
2013-04-09 04:54:20 PM
1 votes:
I typically support the freedom of the press, in that it is a tool against government tyranny and corporate malfeasance ... but this reporter broke a court order which could deny the defendant a fair trial, undermine court proceedings, and negate evidence. Which is more important in this scenario; a fair trial or freedom of the press?

Jana Winter needs to burn for this.
2013-04-09 04:05:49 PM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: Mega Steve: Parthenogenetic: You've already forgotten about her "OMG Iraq has WMDs!!!!" shilling? ("Look, even the Jew York Times admits Saddam could wipe out every man, woman, child, and puppy in America in 45 minutes!")

Wow...please tell me that was a joke or a troll.

A response to my using it ironically.

// shiat, I hope it comes across as ironic


Mega Steve, you've never heard that before?  It's a fairly common term here in the Midwest, used to disparage the librul elite lamestream media.  Which, as we all know, is part of the "I bet the Jews did this" conspiracy.
2013-04-09 03:46:53 PM
1 votes:
I see the insufferable gossip website Gawker is now analagous to the entire mainstream "liberal" media.
2013-04-09 02:52:29 PM
1 votes:
This is what happens when Candlejack gets to cram his liberal agenda down America's throat. THANKS OBA
2013-04-09 02:49:07 PM
1 votes:

you have pee hands: There are lots of crazy people at way off both ends of the political spectrum.  The thing they all have in common is that they're farking crazy.


this.

A while back in Chicago, a judge (Joan Lefkow) came home to find her mother and husband  shot to death. She had previously attracted the ire of white supremacist leader (Matthew Hale). Popular opinion was that some white supremacist flunky had undertaken an assassination attempt on orders from Hale.

As it turned out, the real killer was a random electrician who was bankrupt and disfigured from jaw/head cancer, and he blamed the judge for not ruling favorably in his medical malpractice case. He was either already crazy, or the horrors of his life drove him mad. Bart Ross went to her home to kill her but since she wasn't there, ended up killing two family members instead, then later committed suicide.

I'm just sayin', sometimes killings are motivated by irrational madness, insanity that has little root in mainstream or even non-mainstream politics. And sometimes politics are just a convenient peg to hang one's crazy hat on.
2013-04-09 02:23:30 PM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: " Not as many people care about this as much as they ought to, which is one of the consequences of working for a nakedly partisan shiatshow masquerading as news outlet."

Perhaps if you're a child this is true.
No work on whether Gawker doesn't find Gawker to be a partisan shiatshow masquerading as a news outlet


Gawker and Fox are both shiatshows, but fox is the only one masquerading as journalism.  Everyone already knows that Gawker is not much more than a liberal blog trying really hard to wish they could masquerade as journalists.

However, if you aren't willing to admit that fox is pure bullshiat, then you sir are a fool without equal.
2013-04-09 02:16:23 PM
1 votes:

Mega Steve: Parthenogenetic: You've already forgotten about her "OMG Iraq has WMDs!!!!" shilling? ("Look, even the Jew York Times admits Saddam could wipe out every man, woman, child, and puppy in America in 45 minutes!")

Wow...please tell me that was a joke or a troll.


A response to my using it ironically.

// shiat, I hope it comes across as ironic
2013-04-09 02:00:03 PM
1 votes:

you have pee hands: There are lots of crazy people at way off both ends of the political spectrum.  The thing they all have in common is that they're farking crazy.


Well, that and also they tend to get re-elected.
2013-04-09 01:57:30 PM
1 votes:

Mega Steve: Parthenogenetic: You've already forgotten about her "OMG Iraq has WMDs!!!!" shilling? ("Look, even the Jew York Times admits Saddam could wipe out every man, woman, child, and puppy in America in 45 minutes!")

Wow...please tell me that was a joke or a troll.


our resident Jewish doctor used it first. Cat's out of the bag now
2013-04-09 01:55:06 PM
1 votes:

MindStalker: This is why we have whistleblower protection laws (yes that are rarely followed). If you illegally obtain information and post it to the public, lets say I hacked someone's medical information and posted it online, that is breaking the law. You can't just claim that you are a reporter and suddenly its alright. Your actions need to serve the public good and there needs to be a reason you blew the whistle. This reporter has neither.


Some things I thought of from your response:

-Serving the public good is an arbitrary phrase.
-You don't think this reporter was serving the public good?
-If there is a case of illegally obtaining information, make the case and charge them for that act. If a window's broke, dust for fingerprints.  If you can't get any evidence, don't bring up a charge. Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
2013-04-09 01:37:02 PM
1 votes:
It seems like this isn't in much of the news because it isn't very interesting. Reporters can be compelled to give up their sources. This reporter is being compelled and is willing to take the punishment for refusing. It's really more of a "dog bites man" kind of story.
2013-04-09 01:19:00 PM
1 votes:

taoistlumberjak: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: theorellior: randomjsa: So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"

What are you talking about? Mass-murdering gun nuts are usually, if not always, Republicans.

Citation, please.

Study it out, the evidence is right there.
Just study it out.


You'd make one crappy lawyer and absolutely the last person I'd want to defend any point of view.

You: "I'm innocent your Honor and I have proof!"

Judge: "Really? Do you want to present it?"

You: "Nope. Google it."
2013-04-09 01:12:11 PM
1 votes:

Rwa2play: Maybe it's because the judge placed a gag order preventing anyone associated with the case to blab and it's clear she got her scoops from someone associated with the case?

Crazy talk and all but...


You should read up on colorado shield laws before looking like an idiot. She can't be put in jail unless it is critical to the trial. She did not violate the order. Knowing who leaked is not vital to the outcome of the trial.
2013-04-09 12:46:58 PM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


Still waiting for Cheney and Rove to face Treason charges over that incident.
2013-04-09 12:43:36 PM
1 votes:
I really hope the ACLU defends her just to watch Fox News talking heads explode.
2013-04-09 12:35:45 PM
1 votes:

CheatCommando: skullkrusher: CheatCommando: This text is now purple: I'm sure all judges have dirty laundry, and motivated news rooms can make for difficult opponents.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Going after a judge will negatively effect the stock price. Won't happen.

why would it do that? The ZOG? Illuminati connections of the judge? Trying to understand the mechanism here.

You think that judge doesn't have friends, especially if he has the "dirty laundry" you are positing? News organizations are not about news - they are about steady profits for the shareholders. That's why we see nothing about oil spills and the like and plenty of stories about Justin Bieber's monkey.

Investigative journalism is high risk with little reward - you will only see it when an ideological enemy can be targeted, and even then it can blow up in your face. Ask Dan Rather, who as it turns out, was correct about Shrub's military service.


scandal sells. Judge Dumdum calling whoever he might know is not going to impact News Corps shareprice. Getting a shiatton of page clicks, NY Post sells, etc because they're finding dead girls/live boys in his bed as a result of their vendetta against him to retaliate for violating a reporter's constitutional rights?  Yep, that's good for business.
2013-04-09 12:31:17 PM
1 votes:
A non-reporter might go to jail for refusing to provide citations when asked for them.

/when can we get the Fark trolls tried for the same?
2013-04-09 12:13:12 PM
1 votes:

skozlaw: Prank Monkey: [citation needed]

The guy who shot three cops dead in Pittsburgh because they were "coming to take his guns" had numerous right-wing screeds in his possession by such notable idiots as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity.

Jared Lee Loughner, though fundamentally more insane than anything else, was clearly ininfluenced by a number of what are traditionally right-wing, anti-government conspiracy theories.

Jim David Adkisson explicitly went out looking to "kill liberals, African-Americans, homosexuals" and made a kill list based off of Bernard Goldberg's book "100 People Who are Screwing Up America".

Timothy McVeigh was a far right anti-government lunatic.

Wade Michael Page was a white supremacist.

I don't know if I'd say somethign as specific as mass killers are usually republicans, but there's a pretty clear correlation between conservative ideology (and especially far-right ideology) and violence against people. Crazy-ass left-wingers seem to be more intent with burning down property and smashing windows. Crazy-ass right-wingers seem to have an unfortunate tendency to prefer shooting people or blowing them up.

It's almost like when you have multiple fat farks on TV and radio all day long vilifying people they disagree with as subhuman and blaming all of the world's ills on those people that some of the less stable viewers and listeners might not react in the most level-headed and responsible way.

If only there were a historical precedent for that type of propaganda and its eventual outcomes that we could learn from....


All (or nearly all?) of the militia groups are right wingers. I'm pretty sure the closest thing we have to a radical/violent left these days would be some of the PETA type animal rights people.

RE the mass killers, the fear, paranoia, and xenophobia that are standard talking points on the right are very attractive to people who already lost their marbles.  I'd say corelation and causation are up for debate on that one.
2013-04-09 11:48:37 AM
1 votes:
protect those that do right
slam the bastards that do wrong

(no matter what side they are on)
2013-04-09 11:48:11 AM
1 votes:
skullkrusher: "No work on whether Gawker doesn't find Gawker to be a partisan shiatshow masquerading as a news outlet"

No, they're a tabloid shiatshow masquerading as a ... tabloid shiatshow.
Ok, so it's not much of a masquerade, really.  I mean, it's right there in the domain name, isn't it?
2013-04-09 11:48:11 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: CheatCommando: This text is now purple: I'm sure all judges have dirty laundry, and motivated news rooms can make for difficult opponents.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Going after a judge will negatively effect the stock price. Won't happen.

why would it do that? The ZOG? Illuminati connections of the judge? Trying to understand the mechanism here.


You think that judge doesn't have friends, especially if he has the "dirty laundry" you are positing? News organizations are not about news - they are about steady profits for the shareholders. That's why we see nothing about oil spills and the like and plenty of stories about Justin Bieber's monkey.

Investigative journalism is high risk with little reward - you will only see it when an ideological enemy can be targeted, and even then it can blow up in your face. Ask Dan Rather, who as it turns out, was correct about Shrub's military service.
2013-04-09 11:29:44 AM
1 votes:

Rwa2play: Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Counter_Intelligent: MyKingdomForYourHorse: You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it

I disagree.  This is a bed we'll all be forced to lie in, eventually, whether we support it or not.

I agree with your disagreement.  Liberals should defend this reporter as a matter of principle.

As a matter of principle?  Yeah, we should.  Even though she works for a "news" organization that's really a puppet of the GOP, I wouldn't give them the damn satisfaction of crying victim by letting them twist in the wind.

They'll do it anyways because that's the way they work.


that's not why you should defend her. You really, really don't get it huh?
Shocking.
2013-04-09 11:23:58 AM
1 votes:

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: Counter_Intelligent: MyKingdomForYourHorse: You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it

I disagree.  This is a bed we'll all be forced to lie in, eventually, whether we support it or not.

I agree with your disagreement.  Liberals should defend this reporter as a matter of principle.


As a matter of principle?  Yeah, we should.  Even though she works for a "news" organization that's really a puppet of the GOP, I wouldn't give them the damn satisfaction of crying victim by letting them twist in the wind.

They'll do it anyways because that's the way they work.
2013-04-09 11:12:41 AM
1 votes:

Counter_Intelligent: MyKingdomForYourHorse: You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it

I disagree.  This is a bed we'll all be forced to lie in, eventually, whether we support it or not.


I agree with your disagreement.  Liberals should defend this reporter as a matter of principle.
2013-04-09 11:11:25 AM
1 votes:
I am amused by the commenters crying "hypocrisy". Unike Fox "News", I don't ever remember Gawker posturing themselves as a front-line news gathering organization...
2013-04-09 11:10:59 AM
1 votes:

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Rwa2play: MyKingdomForYourHorse: You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it

Pretty much that.

Yeah, rights should only be defended for those whom you agree with, and are fine, upstanding citizens... the ironic thing is: you probably love the ACLU.


You can only cry wolf so many times before the genuine article comes along...but please, proceed.
2013-04-09 11:10:57 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident.

wat

Wasn't it a Libby-Libby Leftist at the Jew York Times who actually did get thrown in jail?

// OK, so Miller is not a "leftist", she just works at their HQ


You've already forgotten about her  "OMG Iraq has WMDs!!!!" shilling?  ("Look, even the Jew York Times admits Saddam could wipe out every man, woman, child, and puppy in America in 45 minutes!")
2013-04-09 10:52:03 AM
1 votes:
Citations? Hah. Gun nuts + smug conservative Christian worldview = mass murderers. QED.
2013-04-09 10:50:11 AM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


Man, it's a good thing there aren't any examples of the liberal MSM siding with Fox News in a conflict with a Democratic administration. Because that could be embarrassing for you.

And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude FOX News from pool coverage of interviews with a key official. It backed down after strong protests from the press."All the networks said, that's it, you've crossed the line," said CBS News White House correspondent Chip Reid.
2013-04-09 10:47:14 AM
1 votes:

Dr Dreidel: *he no longer gets a name - fame is what he wanted


imageshack.us
2013-04-09 10:43:17 AM
1 votes:

skullkrusher: Rwa2play: randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"

I love how you go right for your point and then scurry back into your hole whenever someone points out the flaws in your argument.

from a guy who thinks this reporter should be hung out to dry because her employer made it's bed? Gee


Well, yeah.  Your point being?
2013-04-09 10:40:46 AM
1 votes:

randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


Yes, because outing a CIA operative is exactly the same.

/Wondered why conservatives didn't want people in jail for putting CIA operatives at risk. Hmmmm.
2013-04-09 10:40:44 AM
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Dr Dreidel: Bonus: the information Winter got from her sources - which Aurora's* defense team is pushing her to release - is thought to be a boon for prosecutors, as it shows planning and a pattern of violence (which are blows against an insanity plea).

*he no longer gets a name - fame is what he wanted


Sounds like the defense wants a mistrial.
2013-04-09 10:39:47 AM
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randomjsa: Liberals were perfectly willing to throw reporters in prison during the Valerie Plame incident. The right of reporters to protect their sources was cast right out the damn window by the ardent free press supporters known as liberals.

So the rest of that headline is "...the reporter doesn't have information that can be used against a Republican"


I love how you go right for your point and then scurry back into your hole whenever someone points out the flaws in your argument.
2013-04-09 10:38:44 AM
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MyKingdomForYourHorse: You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it


Pretty much that.
2013-04-09 10:37:17 AM
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" Not as many people care about this as much as they ought to, which is one of the consequences of working for a nakedly partisan shiatshow masquerading as news outlet."

Perhaps if you're a child this is true.
No work on whether Gawker doesn't find Gawker to be a partisan shiatshow masquerading as a news outlet
2013-04-09 10:36:35 AM
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abhorrent1: The judge should sentence her to time in my pants.


That's a pretty  short sentence

/Try the veal
2013-04-09 10:35:46 AM
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You sort of created your own bed Fox, time to lie in it
 
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