enik: Infinity370: To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Thatcher was a patriot. Chavez was a criminal. Get the difference? No, I didn't think you would.

potato/10

Oh glorious day!







We've been waiting YEARS for this. And do you know, I never thought I'd say this but for once I actually want Cameron and Osborne to follow in her footsteps.

Infinity370: To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Thatcher was a patriot. Chavez was a criminal. Get the difference? No, I didn't think you would.

Screw the Ding Dongs being dead. I miss the Orange Cupcakes.

/DNRTFA

TheShavingofOccam123: genner: Stay classy liberals.

enik: Liberals are classy and not at all vindictive.

Conservatives are both repetitive and vindictive.

You should have seen how mean and disrespectful those libs were when Pinochet died.

It's funny that England still thinks it's important.

To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Liberals are classy and not at all vindictive.

Stay classy liberals.

I wish she was still alive so she could farking die again.

MadHatter500: Bungles: pdee: Infinity370: To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Really?  Try out your google foo on 'thatcher death party' compared to 'chavez death party' and observe the difference.


Who in the US was directly impacted by Chavez? Who even knew anything about him beyond talking points?


Anyone over 30 in the UK (and then their parents if not them) personally witnessed what Thatcher did to this country, and their lives.


Funnily enough, one of the only things Thatcher did that the majority of the UK agrees with is the Falklands, which the US apparently either doesn't give two craps about or thinks she was wrong.

The only thing "wrong" we thought about the Faulkland's war is that after waging it the UK didn't immediately build two supercarriers.  We followed the war like a football match.  Much comentary was generated and the example of the difficulties the UK encountered in tossing the Argentines off the island was used as justification for 20 years of military spending.  The debate about the US expanding the Navy in the 80s came to a sudden halt when we saw how much trouble the UK had in dealing with the situation.  The check was written and we just finished that fleet expansion in 2009 with the commisioning of the G.H.W. Bush coont7) and little to no opposition to a new class of carriers (Ford class) was ever brought up.  The faulkland's war has had tremendous impact on US Navy planning.

OK fark tools, you have me commenting on my own damn post!

coont7 -> coont7?  Give me a freaking break!

Smoky Dragon Dish: Cream of Meat: Can a resident limey give me a primer on this lady.  I'm guessing she's the female GWB from the comments above.

Not a Brit, but she was more like Ronald Reagan than GWB.

As a Brit I would have to agree. In the UK people loved her or hater her, very little in between. She dragged the UK out of an economic slump and gave us success for the next 2 decades. Labor party managed to piss it all away.

/I was a fan btw.

Oh no!  The Irish will get drunk now!!

MyRandomName: Esc7: Again, apparently I'm the libbiest lib in the world for not adoring Margret Thatcher.

I may respect her for being England's first woman prime minister, and having the resolve to more or less successfully win the Falkland's War.  But her economic philosophy is not popular with me and her actions implementing it were horrid.

But since I'm not falling over myself lionizing her I'm a lib and all libs are classless.

You ever stop and wonder WHY people hate her?  WHY so many people don't like her or other conservative policies?

It's so unfair!  We hate things that harm us!  We should be so much more respectful of those that spit in our faces, take our money for the rich, tell us we're going to hell, question our patriotism and make our lives worse!

Are you intentionally ignoring the economic state of britain prior to her election when talking down her economic views? She improved that country economically.

Facts have no place on FARK, you newhere or something?

You mean, people who suffered mightily under her tyrannical rule are classless for mocking her in death and not, say, drawing and quartering her?  I could certianly think of worse things to do with mad maggie's corpse.

ElPresidente: [fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net image 300x450]

Looks like the unemployment lines before Thatcher took office

brantgoose: Because criticism of one woman means you hate them all?

Absolutely. For precedence, see the "if you disagree with a black president then you hate black people" common-law that went into effect in 2008. Since it is illegal to discriminate, the law applies to all minorities, including women.

brantgoose: lordaction: More proof on how intolerant and sexist the leftists really are.

Because criticism of one woman means you hate them all? What are you? A FeminaziTM?

You can sure pack a lot of logical fallacies in one little sentence.

Unpacking, it basically says:

All leftists are intolerant and sexist.

I doubt if you could say that of Nazis or bigoted right-wing nuns, let alone liberals. They may be rare, but some Nazis were feminists, and some bigoted right-wing nuns are feminists of a sort as well.

An additional bonus fallacy of special pleading is committed if you ignore how many conservatives are intolerant and sexist. It is beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt, a larger percentage of conservatives than liberals. Liberals are supposed to be tolerant and non-sexist. No doubt some fail but conservatives hold inherently intolerant and distrustful views of humanity, let alone women. It's tradition. It's also inherent in the conservative ideology (insofar as the various groups of people who shelter under that label have anything in common).

Take Hilary Clinton ... please! (rimshot)

Speaking for myself, as a dyed in the wool, registered Thatcher-Hater, there are plenty of women, even obnoxious women, whose qualities I respect.

Laura Bush is charming even if she married George Bush, but Ma Bush is a battleax in any political camp.

Hilary Clinton is abrasive and annoying, but she has some admirable qualities and thus even Republicans might occasionally respect her authoritah. Olympia Snow does not raise my ire whether she is a liberal or conservative, and she has voted as both. Although a Conservative and Texan, you can't help liking the late maverick Governor Ann Richards, even though it was not she who came up with the quip about George H.W. Bush Sr. being born with a silver foot in his mouth (she admitted she was quoting someone else).

In my native Province, the former Mayor of Saint John, MP, and erstwhile half of the Conservative Rump left when the Conser ...

Can I have some of your Adderall?

skullkrusher: Mrtraveler01: genner: Stay classy liberals.

enik: Liberals are classy and not at all vindictive.

There are assholes on all sides of the political spectrum.

There's no need to make this a liberal vs. conservative pissing match.

oh, today is the day we're not gonna do that? I knew we had it on the calendar but I thought it was next Tuesday.

No, FARK's "no politics allowed" days are scheduled only for when liberals are doing something embarrassing.

SwiftFox: There was initial confusion when it was suggested that Judy Garland's version is too short to qualify for the UK Top 40 charts, leading organisers to encourage people to buy Ella Fitzgerald's lengthier rendition.

I prefer the Vincent Price performance of "Over the Rainbow" from Dr. Phibes Rises Again

A Dr. Phibes reference? In my Fark? Awwwwww, yeah!

Whoever you are -- I love you, Mang! (No homo).

Now back to, "America's Wildest Poo Flinging Trolls," already in progress. . .

gibbon1: Private_Citizen: Pretty much this. She was a rich, rich woman who had all the sympathy for poor people that a butcher has for cattle. Had oil revenue from the North Sea not started pouring into the coffers, her legacy would be a warning about the dangers of austerity and regulation busting - but the extra cash hid the real cost of her policies.

Well not to mention sucking about a thousand quid per capita out of Scotland.  Lady had nothing remotely resembling morals.

She did try to end Sunday trading laws though, and was pro-choice and (for the time) pro-gay rights.

Politics isn't quite so black and white in the UK as it is in the US.

The Irresponsible Captain: TeDDD: The Irresponsible Captain: [i.imgur.com image 850x602]

"Uh, Stephan, what are 'Phlembots'?"

I was too afraid to ask...

"It's that thing where two midgets hide in a trash can and spit on the poor if they get too close."

It's good to see that Britons are standing up to a dead woman.

Afterwards, we can review a list of already disposed dictators and say how much we hate them.

stuffy: No matter what you thought of her, the poor woman is dead. Show some class.

I bet you were there in Hitler's bunker, asking everyone to be a bit nicer, the poor man had just been shot.

I'm just really disappointed that so many people are happy that Annette Funicello died.

Marine1: Irregardless: Thatcher's tenure in a numerical nutshell via Wikipedia.

GDP and public spending by classification - % change in real terms 1979/80 to 1989/90
GDP.                                        +23.3
Total government spending     +12.9
Law and order                          +53.3
Employment and training         +33.3
Health                                      +31.8
Social security                         +31.8
Transport                                 −5.8
Trade and industry                  −38.2
Housing                                   −67.0
Defence                                   −3.3

Looks like a relatively good run to me.

Looks like a Socialist if you use the Teabagger definition!

Do we accept people celebrating the death of another human being now, has our society fallen so low that celebrating someones death is acceptable and not in anyway poor taste or vulgar! Respect for human life is at an all time low. NRA you have won, arm everyone, because people dying is ok now

While I agree that delight in another person's death is beneath a civil society...

...I also heard someone quoted as saying "Her public funeral is going to cost 9 million pounds.  For that price, you could buy every Scotsman a shovel and we could deliver her to hell personally."

Infinity370: You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

The difference being that Chavez actually was a monster as opposed to Thatcher whose main crime was proving liberals like Chavez wrong.

lordaction: More proof on how intolerant and sexist the leftists really are.

So, if our dislike of Thatcher means we're sexist, does that mean that everyone who dislikes Obama is racist?

Tacky. And disrespectful. Un-British.

"Margaret Thatcher was a pioneer, willingly or unwillingly, for the role of women in politics. It is hard to imagine a part of our current history that has not been affected by measures she put forward in the UK at the end of the 20th century. Her hard-nosed fiscal measures took a toll on the poor, and her hands-off approach to financial regulation led to great wealth for others. There is an argument that her steadfast, almost emotional loyalty to the pound sterling has helped the UK weather the storms of European monetary uncertainty.

But to me she was a figure of awe for her personal strength and grit. To have come up, legitimately, through the ranks of the British political system, class bound and gender phobic as it was, in the time that she did and the way that she did, was a formidable achievement. To have won it, not because she inherited position as the daughter of a great man, or the widow of an important man, but by dint of her own striving. To have withstood the special hatred and ridicule, unprecedented in my opinion, leveled in our time at a public figure who was not a mass murderer; and to have managed to keep her convictions attached to fervent ideals and ideas-wrongheaded or misguided as we might see them now-without corruption-I see that as evidence of some kind of greatness, worthy for the argument of history to settle."

--Meryl Streep
(a dyed-in-the-wool "liberal")

To her credit, her policies killed fewer people than Hitler's. So, there's that.

enik: Infinity370: To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Thatcher was a patriot. Chavez was a criminal. Get the difference? No, I didn't think you would.

Thatcher was an egomaniac.  Chavez was an egomaniac.  Get the similarity?  No, I didn't think you would.

I love how liberals are being blamed for enjoying themselves - how dare they?  Can't really blame them for being drunk on the sweet, sweet tears of the same now-fawning Conservatives who stabbed Thatcher in the back and forced her to stand down.  It's a bit like getting sick of your faithful pet, taking it to the pound and when it gets put down, saying it wasn't your fault and that you really liked the pet.

I just hope they bury her with an empty milk bottle.

Burn you hag!

/Compassionate conservative

Mrtraveler01: genner: Stay classy liberals.

enik: Liberals are classy and not at all vindictive.

There are assholes on all sides of the political spectrum.

There's no need to make this a liberal vs. conservative pissing match.

oh, today is the day we're not gonna do that? I knew we had it on the calendar but I thought it was next Tuesday.