Tatterdemalian: No, FARK's "no politics allowed" days are scheduled only for when liberals are doing something embarrassing.

That or some random Friday night when Drew is wasted beyond all belief.

lordaction: More proof on how intolerant and sexist the leftists really are.

Because criticism of one woman means you hate them all? What are you? A Feminazi^TM?

You can sure pack a lot of logical fallacies in one little sentence.

Unpacking, it basically says:

All leftists are intolerant and sexist.

I doubt if you could say that of Nazis or bigoted right-wing nuns, let alone liberals. They may be rare, but some Nazis were feminists, and some bigoted right-wing nuns are feminists of a sort as well.

An additional bonus fallacy of special pleading is committed if you ignore how many conservatives are intolerant and sexist. It is beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt, a larger percentage of conservatives than liberals. Liberals are supposed to be tolerant and non-sexist. No doubt some fail but conservatives hold inherently intolerant and distrustful views of humanity, let alone women. It's tradition. It's also inherent in the conservative ideology (insofar as the various groups of people who shelter under that label have anything in common).

Take Hilary Clinton ... please! (rimshot)

Speaking for myself, as a dyed in the wool, registered Thatcher-Hater, there are plenty of women, even obnoxious women, whose qualities I respect.

Laura Bush is charming even if she married George Bush, but Ma Bush is a battleax in any political camp.

Hilary Clinton is abrasive and annoying, but she has some admirable qualities and thus even Republicans might occasionally respect her authoritah. Olympia Snow does not raise my ire whether she is a liberal or conservative, and she has voted as both. Although a Conservative and Texan, you can't help liking the late maverick Governor Ann Richards, even though it was not she who came up with the quip about George H.W. Bush Sr. being born with a silver foot in his mouth (she admitted she was quoting someone else).

In my native Province, the former Mayor of Saint John, MP, and erstwhile half of the Conservative Rump left when the Conservative Party collapsed to a historic low of two MPs, Elsie Wayne is a rabid reactionary on social issues, but has been occasionally quite amusing and shown great spunk. She once dressed as a (male) waiter to get into an event that was closed to her as a woman. And she has a formidable collection of tacky Christmas sweaters, some of which light up. You have to respect her moxy even if you deplore her stupidity. No liberal that I know of has a problem with Mary Robinson of Ireland or Mrs. Brundtland of Norway.

People who dislike Lucretia Borgia, Carrie Nation, or the fictional Lady MacBeth don't necessarily disrespect Florence Nightingale, Madame Curie, or Queen Victoria.

Everybody found Bella Abzug somewhat funny, but that doesn't mean that the whole female sex is funny, or that feminists are funny, or Jews are funny (although you might get a pass for that last one) and it doesn't mean that she was not a lady of some worthy qualities. A sizeable miniority of the female sex is less charming than Ann Coulter. They must number in their scores. But what one feels about Ann Coulter does not translate to her sex or ELSE THE FARKING HUMAN RACE WOULD BE LONG EXTINCT.

It's arrant nonsense to claim that one side of a partisan divide bases its antipathies entirely on the sex or race of their opponents and enemies, even when that side of the partisan divide is notoriously gynophobic, sexist, chauvinistic, bigoted, and racist, as American Conservatives have long been. Some liberal and moderate conservatives, at least, are smart enough not to put down women. They wisely fear them. Even a stupid woman can be a relentless and dangerous adversary.

I refuse to allow any person to equate my well-grounded loathing of that biatch Ann Coulter with a universal gynophobia or even a universal loathing of specifically conservative women or conservatives generally. It isn't strong conservative women who are hated. It is evil Conservative women. It is stupid conservative women. And Ann Coulter is evil and shamelessly and unrelentingly partisan above and beyond the call of duty, or common sense, or reason. She is inherently hateful because she is a professional hater and attention-whore. A website that ranked political pundits on their partisanship found she was the most extremely partisan conservative, with Paul Krugman as the most extremely partisan liberal. But Paul Krugman is a pussy cat compared to Ann Coulter. He may be a partisan but he is also a thinker and reasonably polite and honest.

It as as absurd to claim that the intense dislike that Margaret Thatcher continues to inspire (even among Conservatives, and for that matter, her own former cabinet minister and her own sex) is the product of sexism as it is to claim that antipathy to Adolf Hitler is a product of anti-Germanism or an antipathy to Pol Pot's genocidal policies is pure hatred of, let's say Buddhism or Cambodians or socialism. I doubt if he was even a bad Buddhist. He certainly wasn't a Good Buddhist. He wasn't even a Good Socialist. He was pure evil, like newspaper comics.

Thatcher's strengths were also her vices. She was fearless and strong, but she was a bully. She was moral but she came off as self-righteous, hectoring, a Church Lady. She was sincere in her conservatism, but her conservatism was callous, intolerant and judgmental. She was "patriotic" but also jingoist and chauvinistic, a Little Englander heart, mind, body and soul.

She was larger than life, but like the heroes and heroines of a Greek Tragedy, she was possessed by a tragic flaw that made her a tragic hero--certainly tragic for anybody who got in front of the wheels of her chariot. To those she was Juggernaut, the Destroyer of Worlds.

cirby: We did it by "encouraging" banks to loan money to people too poor to actually own homes, instead of selling them a bunch of government-owned flats at below-market prices (which led to speculation and a housing bubble, along with a bunch of temporarily-middle-class people who then wasted all of that money).

Ah yes, this debunked derp again.

Anything to get peoples eyes off of the fact the GOP drafted the repeal of Glass-Stegal huh?

enik: Liberals are classy and not at all vindictive.

I had a lot of respect for Eisenhower.

Not so much for conservatives who raped the wider economy for the betterment of a few.

I'm vindictive based upon what she did not who she was.

Joe Blowme: Mrtraveler01: Glass-Stegal

Thank god Clinton wasnt president and had to sign such an evil pos bill right?

So you agree with me that it was as much Clinton's fault as it was the House Republicans fault for getting this repealed then?

cirby: Actually, I have a great idea. We did an equivalent thing here in the US, and it ended up with the same results - a temporary housing bubble, a whole lot of poor people living in houses they couldn't afford, and a bad economy. The Brits did it by selling old housing at low prices.

We did it by "encouraging" banks to loan money to people too poor to actually own homes,

This bullshat again.

If by "we" you mean "private banks that bundled those loans into private securities," and "too poor" you mean "not actually poor, but couldn't afford the loan obligations in a declining market (middle-class with ARMs, speculators, etc)...

Bender The Offender: Nutsac_Jim: Infinity370: To all whining rightwingers. You all celebrated when Chavez died, you hypocrites.

Thatcher called America the devil?

No, she called Mandela the devil. Of course, he was melanin challenged so I can understand why her tacit support for the brutal system of apartheid and imrpisoning people for political speech doesn't really bother you. I also recalled when Venezuela and Chavez was taken seriously by anyone outside a soccer field, a miss universe pageant, or Venezuela itself. That was never.

I don't give Reagan that much credit, but I will give him credit for not defending Apartheid. Apparently, that's not as easy as I thought it would be.

Joe Blowme: A Dark Evil Omen: Bungles: Americans, who have some sort of mythical Vaseline image of her, liked her.

The right-wing media has created that image, same as how they've created an image of Reagan as a perfect god among men. It's deliberate.

Unlike the cult of "The one" right?

The one the right-wing media drafted inside their heads?

No one actually talks like that outside of the right-wing echo chamber.