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(Fox News)   After deciding to climb a mountain to "touch the clouds," hiker "hallucinated wildly" while lost in California forest. Well, isn't that pretty much what you go out into the forest to do in California?   (foxnews.com) divider line 110
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2013-04-09 01:16:37 PM  

jmsvrsn: Absolutely everything about this story is hinky.


www.flickfilosopher.com

What does that mean, "hinky"?
 
2013-04-09 01:17:12 PM  
She looks exactly like a friend when she was doing acid constantly right down to the small grin. And when I say friend I mean, crazy can want my penis all she wants but I don't put my penis in crazy.

/chicks who tripped every weekend middle/high school
//nevar wuns
 
2013-04-09 01:17:42 PM  
Soon to be on Discovery's, "I shouldn't be Alive"
 
2013-04-09 01:20:19 PM  

kindms: Having been caught out in the wilderness overnight without water etc. I'm having a hard time envisioning 2 semi healthy adults going from lost to hallucinating in under 24 hours. Especially ones that would have stayed put after calling for help. Why would they leave the area where they called for help ?

You have already made the adult decision that you are lost and are going to call for help. The next thing you do is stay put. sitting and waiting isn't going to make your body need a tremendous amount of water. There is more to this story. I would bet they were hallucinating before they got lost on that trail.


Being from the desert, I too am having a difficult time understanding this.  I can only imagine them having some kind of substance in their bodies that would speed up the dehydration process.
 
2013-04-09 01:22:16 PM  
I'm pretty sure it's "I'm standing next to a mountain; `chop it down the the edge of my hand."

We should ask Hulk Hogan. He'd know for sure.
 
2013-04-09 01:26:16 PM  
I've been following this since it's nearby and I've hiked in the region. These two either went down the trail then took some serious drugs, or they're even more incredibly stupid than even that.
 
2013-04-09 01:28:42 PM  

ristst: Commander Cyclops: [www.recordsale.de image 600x595]

LEDGE vs. EDGE....


I just... *sigh*. At least it's hosted on a German website. Maybe it's an honest mistake.
 
2013-04-09 01:32:27 PM  
They need to come up to Vermont and ski off trail next.
We'll send out a team with hot cocoa and marshmellows and blankies.

Just as soon as the wolves get done.
 
2013-04-09 01:33:15 PM  
I hiked that with my two puppies. One of the easiest trails I ever walked, road was a biatch to drive to the trail head. My $0.02 is that they went off the trail to do drugs. Should have just done the hallucinogens at home.
 
2013-04-09 01:33:45 PM  
Use drugs responsibly people.

Psychedelics require a trip sitter. Not having a sober mind among you is asking for trouble.
 
2013-04-09 01:34:11 PM  
Sounds more fun than Japanese Suicide Forest.
 
2013-04-09 01:35:29 PM  

Caffandtranqs: kindms: Having been caught out in the wilderness overnight without water etc. I'm having a hard time envisioning 2 semi healthy adults going from lost to hallucinating in under 24 hours. Especially ones that would have stayed put after calling for help. Why would they leave the area where they called for help ?

You have already made the adult decision that you are lost and are going to call for help. The next thing you do is stay put. sitting and waiting isn't going to make your body need a tremendous amount of water. There is more to this story. I would bet they were hallucinating before they got lost on that trail.

Being from the desert, I too am having a difficult time understanding this.  I can only imagine them having some kind of substance in their bodies that would speed up the dehydration process.


Ecstasy will do that.  (all the short and long term effects of meth without the crash)
 
2013-04-09 01:36:59 PM  
Come closer and see.  See through the trees.  Find the girl, if you can.  Suddenly I stop.  It's always the same.  The girl was never there!  I'm running and I'm running again and again and again and again and again and AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.


/obscure?
 
2013-04-09 01:40:34 PM  

nmemkha: Use drugs responsibly people.

Psychedelics require a trip sitter. Not having a sober mind among you is asking for trouble.


So much this. trip in a comfortable environment and with somebody responsible; preferably take from a batch that has already been tested.

/friend told me
 
2013-04-09 01:40:53 PM  

mentallo69: I'm a hiker, mountain climber and backpacker. I never leave the house unprepared.
1)OR Bivy Sack
2) MSR Water filter
3) Surefire firestarter and some powdered magnesium,
4) Snickers Candy bars, jerkey and other dehydrated foods. light weight packed full of fat, salt and calories
5)minimum I carry my mountain hardware outdoor bag
6)Compass,
7)REI whistle (audible for a mile)
8)headlamp w/extra batteries
9) book, something who cares. you need to keep your mind occupied
10) Flares
11) Small first aid kit, including Aspirin, penicillin, Ibuporfen, bandaids,
Ethanol and Iodine wipes and suture kit.
12) fixed blade Gerber knife and also a multitool and ducktape.


That there's my list for the kind of outdoors stuff I do.
 
2013-04-09 01:42:15 PM  

CheekyMonkey: bruegel: And these two are why we should start charging for rescues. issue firearms to SAR, and deputize them with the instruction to shoot people like this in the head, instead of rescuing them.   I'm not sure that I've ever heard a story of two people less deserving of rescue than these two.


You must've missed the thread from yesterday where people called 911 because they didn't want their phones to get wet. Plenty of stories in there about other people who didn't know what they were in for going hiking.

Unsurprisingly,. most people in that thread also proposed killing the hikers for some reason as well. But if there's a thread about the death penalty for murderers, best believe plenty of people will talk all day about how they deserve to life. But dumbasses using rescue services? Shoot em in the head! If you want to shoot people for doing stupid things, you'll run out of bullets pretty quick.

Farkers have a very warped sense of justice in general though. I think the fark justice scale, from worse offense to mildest, would be 1) having children, 2) saying or doing something stupid, 3) being wealthy, 4) rape, 5) releasing a popular song, 6) murder. With "owning an Apple and/or Google product" mixed in there somewhere.
 
2013-04-09 01:43:04 PM  

johnny_vegas: [i245.photobucket.com image 252x188]


Damn you. Beat me to it.
 
2013-04-09 01:44:58 PM  

Electromax: CheekyMonkey: bruegel: And these two are why we should start charging for rescues. issue firearms to SAR, and deputize them with the instruction to shoot people like this in the head, instead of rescuing them.   I'm not sure that I've ever heard a story of two people less deserving of rescue than these two.

You must've missed the thread from yesterday where people called 911 because they didn't want their phones to get wet. Plenty of stories in there about other people who didn't know what they were in for going hiking.

Unsurprisingly,. most people in that thread also proposed killing the hikers for some reason as well. But if there's a thread about the death penalty for murderers, best believe plenty of people will talk all day about how they deserve to life. But dumbasses using rescue services? Shoot em in the head! If you want to shoot people for doing stupid things, you'll run out of bullets pretty quick.

Farkers have a very warped sense of justice in general though. I think the fark justice scale, from worse offense to mildest, would be 1) having children, 2) saying or doing something stupid, 3) being wealthy, 4) rape, 5) releasing a popular song, 6) murder. With "owning an Apple and/or Google product" mixed in there somewhere.


I think Lootie photoshop contest entries is in at #6 before murder, possibly higher.
 
2013-04-09 01:45:12 PM  
came for young guns reference, leaving disappoint.

img.youtube.com

/anybody see the size of that gawl' durn chicken? COCKADOODLE MOF---  POW!!
 
2013-04-09 01:45:30 PM  
I mean... nobody thinks this is anything other than a shrooming experience gone bad, do they? So dumb.
 
2013-04-09 01:48:05 PM  
I never click on anything even remotely related to fox news, why do you crazy farksticks post this shiat?
 
2013-04-09 01:49:26 PM  

Another Government Employee: Caffandtranqs: kindms: Having been caught out in the wilderness overnight without water etc. I'm having a hard time envisioning 2 semi healthy adults going from lost to hallucinating in under 24 hours. Especially ones that would have stayed put after calling for help. Why would they leave the area where they called for help ?

You have already made the adult decision that you are lost and are going to call for help. The next thing you do is stay put. sitting and waiting isn't going to make your body need a tremendous amount of water. There is more to this story. I would bet they were hallucinating before they got lost on that trail.

Being from the desert, I too am having a difficult time understanding this.  I can only imagine them having some kind of substance in their bodies that would speed up the dehydration process.

Ecstasy will do that.  (all the short and long term effects of meth without the crash)


Very possible.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:10 PM  

show me: Awkward headline, farked up story. Only at the very end to they mention a deputy who damn near got killed looking for their dumbasses. No GPS on your phone? Really?


I'm all for going outdoors, make your own shelter, hunt for food, etc., but farkin aye, if you're going into woods so big that going off the trail can get you lost for 4 days, have something with you. Keep your phone shut off so you can at least fire it up for the GPS, or learn to use a map and compass.

And really, hallucinating after only 4 days? I have a feeling they had more than a couple Cliff bars to eat.
 
2013-04-09 01:59:25 PM  

DraconianTotalitarian: I never click on anything even remotely related to fox news, why do you crazy farksticks post this shiat?


That's a lot of libderp out of the blue. Easy Tex. The internets don't take it personal if you click it's links or not. You are not that important.
 
2013-04-09 02:00:20 PM  

Electromax: CheekyMonkey: bruegel: And these two are why we should start charging for rescues. issue firearms to SAR, and deputize them with the instruction to shoot people like this in the head, instead of rescuing them.   I'm not sure that I've ever heard a story of two people less deserving of rescue than these two.

You must've missed the thread from yesterday where people called 911 because they didn't want their phones to get wet. Plenty of stories in there about other people who didn't know what they were in for going hiking.

Unsurprisingly,. most people in that thread also proposed killing the hikers for some reason as well. But if there's a thread about the death penalty for murderers, best believe plenty of people will talk all day about how they deserve to life. But dumbasses using rescue services? Shoot em in the head! If you want to shoot people for doing stupid things, you'll run out of bullets pretty quick.

Farkers have a very warped sense of justice in general though. I think the fark justice scale, from worse offense to mildest, would be 1) having children, 2) saying or doing something stupid, 3) being wealthy, 4) rape, 5) releasing a popular song, 6) murder. With "owning an Apple and/or Google product" mixed in there somewhere.


Farkers have a very warped sense of humor in general.  If you think that I was serious about having Search and Rescue be able to shoot them, than perhaps your sense of humor is non-existent, or at the very least, vestigial.  You might be more comfortable at www.happyponyfuntime.com

And, yes, I saw yesterday's "didn't want my electronics to get wet" thread.  I accept the possibility that the stream was iffy when the crossed it the first time, and became worse due to snowmelt or weather when they needed to cross again on the return trip, so not quite a idiotic as these two "touch the clouds" morons.
 
2013-04-09 02:05:37 PM  
She thinks she remembers fighting off some type of animal with Cendoya before the two began to slip in and out of consciousness -- but that, too, could have been a dream.

Mmmm.....yea. I'm going to go ahead and say that was a dream.
 
2013-04-09 02:06:46 PM  
The first date I took my girlfriend on was a hike up to Holy Jim falls. It's about a 5 mile road to get to the trail head but you need a truck, not necessary a 4WD but I wasn't going to beat up my car. So we walked the 5 miles crossing the creek about 7 or 8 times. This was January 3 years ago when we actually got rain that year. So we hike up the trail and can tell there's no way we can make it before it gets dark. Luckily some guy picked us up when we were 1/2 way back to the car. Walking 10 miles in wet shoes is a pain. We eventually borrowed a friend's jeep so we could drive to the trail head and then do the whole hike up. Anyway, any idiot could just go down the mountain instead of up and then follow the creek bed out. These guys were shroomin'. Which brings me to one more csb. I was this idiot too 20 years ago. Me and my girlfriend had just moved to Tahoe. We got mushrooms and wine and hiked up to the "Top of the world" (a place you can see North shore, South shore and the whole Carson Valley) to watch the sunset. It was AWESOME!! But being young and dumb, we forgot once the sun sets...it's farking Dark! Luckily it was only a mile of blindly stumbling down the mountain to get back to the car and only another mile drive home. What peace we felt to walk in the door. Then I turned on the TV to see Prince in his yellow assless pants with 50 couples doing sex acts in the background and we flipped out again. Turned out to be the MTV Video awards...1991. Good times! Man I'm getting old.

/csb
 
2013-04-09 02:09:04 PM  

AndreMA: johnny_vegas: [i245.photobucket.com image 252x188]

Damn you. Beat me to it.


I just fark off at work better than you

;-)
 
2013-04-09 02:09:23 PM  
The thing about getting lost in the wild is that it does make you stupid. If it has happened to you, you know what I'm talking about: at some point, once it sinks in that you're buggered, the fight-or-flight syndrome kicks in. And that is evolution's little way of getting you to do pretty much anything to get yourself out of your current situation so long as you do it as fast as possible and with your higher cerebral functions shut down. It takes a good bit of willpower, and ideally training/experience, to calm yourself down to the point of acting and moving based on a rational evaluation of your circumstances.

Can't speak for the multiplier effect of controlled substances, though.
 
2013-04-09 02:10:19 PM  

Spam Pajamas: The first date I took my girlfriend on was a hike up to Holy Jim falls. It's about a 5 mile road to get to the trail head but you need a truck, not necessary a 4WD but I wasn't going to beat up my car. So we walked the 5 miles crossing the creek about 7 or 8 times. This was January 3 years ago when we actually got rain that year. So we hike up the trail and can tell there's no way we can make it before it gets dark. Luckily some guy picked us up when we were 1/2 way back to the car. Walking 10 miles in wet shoes is a pain. We eventually borrowed a friend's jeep so we could drive to the trail head and then do the whole hike up. Anyway, any idiot could just go down the mountain instead of up and then follow the creek bed out. These guys were shroomin'. Which brings me to one more csb. I was this idiot too 20 years ago. Me and my girlfriend had just moved to Tahoe. We got mushrooms and wine and hiked up to the "Top of the world" (a place you can see North shore, South shore and the whole Carson Valley) to watch the sunset. It was AWESOME!! But being young and dumb, we forgot once the sun sets...it's farking Dark! Luckily it was only a mile of blindly stumbling down the mountain to get back to the car and only another mile drive home. What peace we felt to walk in the door. Then I turned on the TV to see Prince in his yellow assless pants with 50 couples doing sex acts in the background and we flipped out again. Turned out to be the MTV Video awards...1991. Good times! Man I'm getting old.

/csb


"mommy, what is 'attention deficit disorder'?"
 
2013-04-09 02:12:58 PM  
She tried to eat rocks and dirt? Yeah, that isn't from hunger. And even if it was, if you could only last 4 days before you decide you need to eat rocks and dirt to survive, you shouldn't ever go outside in the first place.
 
2013-04-09 02:22:39 PM  

nmemkha: Use drugs responsibly people.

Psychedelics require a trip sitter. Not having a sober mind among you is asking for trouble.


THIS.

/Druggysitter. Not interested in them myself.
 
2013-04-09 02:22:47 PM  
She needed the Survibrator (probably NSFW).

That show also had a great skit about a hiker lost in the woods but I can't find it.
 
2013-04-09 02:23:42 PM  

rickythepenguin: Spam Pajamas: The first date I took my girlfriend on was a hike up to Holy Jim falls. It's about a 5 mile road to get to the trail head but you need a truck, not necessary a 4WD but I wasn't going to beat up my car. So we walked the 5 miles crossing the creek about 7 or 8 times. This was January 3 years ago when we actually got rain that year. So we hike up the trail and can tell there's no way we can make it before it gets dark. Luckily some guy picked us up when we were 1/2 way back to the car. Walking 10 miles in wet shoes is a pain. We eventually borrowed a friend's jeep so we could drive to the trail head and then do the whole hike up. Anyway, any idiot could just go down the mountain instead of up and then follow the creek bed out. These guys were shroomin'. Which brings me to one more csb. I was this idiot too 20 years ago. Me and my girlfriend had just moved to Tahoe. We got mushrooms and wine and hiked up to the "Top of the world" (a place you can see North shore, South shore and the whole Carson Valley) to watch the sunset. It was AWESOME!! But being young and dumb, we forgot once the sun sets...it's farking Dark! Luckily it was only a mile of blindly stumbling down the mountain to get back to the car and only another mile drive home. What peace we felt to walk in the door. Then I turned on the TV to see Prince in his yellow assless pants with 50 couples doing sex acts in the background and we flipped out again. Turned out to be the MTV Video awards...1991. Good times! Man I'm getting old.

/csb

"mommy, what is 'attention deficit disorder'?"


Well, in just one post I did mention past drug use and that I'm old. :)
 
2013-04-09 02:30:18 PM  
cdn2.bigcommerce.com
 
2013-04-09 02:32:49 PM  
she remembers little about her four-day ordeal because she began hallucinating on the first night after taking the drugs/shrooms

Fixed
 
2013-04-09 02:40:22 PM  
i2.ytimg.com
 
2013-04-09 02:46:00 PM  
www.synthcom.com
 
2013-04-09 02:48:11 PM  

Spam Pajamas: Well, in just one post I did mention past drug use and that I'm old. :)


Ha, no worries.  i'm probably older.  that post just reads like hey look a silver do you like bunnies i'm hungry no thanks i don't like
 
2013-04-09 02:50:04 PM  

Tridentata: The thing about getting lost in the wild is that it does make you stupid. If it has happened to you, you know what I'm talking about: at some point, once it sinks in that you're buggered, the fight-or-flight syndrome kicks in. And that is evolution's little way of getting you to do pretty much anything to get yourself out of your current situation so long as you do it as fast as possible and with your higher cerebral functions shut down. It takes a good bit of willpower, and ideally training/experience, to calm yourself down to the point of acting and moving based on a rational evaluation of your circumstances.

Can't speak for the multiplier effect of controlled substances, though.


having been caught out in the woods enhanced with a group of enhanced folks other than it being f-ing cold we managed. Early spring in New England. lets go hike. Sun goes down and the woods get dark, real dark fast and no one with a flashlight etc. No food, no water no tunes and running very very low on anything that might make the night a little easier to deal with. We made one good decision and that was to stay put.Luckily everyone wasn't a first timer so that helped. managed to get a fire going (the guy burning his $$ was pretty funny). He was pretty pissed off when I found the campus dining hall menu in my back pocket :) About 5 feet from the fire and you were freezing your ass off. We just stayed awake and when the sun finally broke found our way back to the cars. BEST BREAKFAST EVA!!
 
2013-04-09 03:01:19 PM  
All well and good, but does this have to be a Fox News link?

Keep in mind that Fox News is the Murdoch-owned outlet that legitimized the Tea Party bullshiat a few years ago. Do you really want to be clicking on their links and giving them needed pageviews? Just a thought.
 
2013-04-09 03:08:05 PM  

whidbey: All well and good, but does this have to be a Fox News link?

Keep in mind that Fox News is the Murdoch-owned outlet that legitimized the Tea Party bullshiat a few years ago. Do you really want to be clicking on their links and giving them needed pageviews? Just a thought.


Yes. Clicky clicky clicky click.
/Now get your shine box
 
2013-04-09 03:28:56 PM  
used her lighter to try and signal

........????

Wouldn't it have been better to use the LIGHTER and start a campfire in the night?

I can't help it, but the whole story is just so weird. I'll bet they learned all about hiking from a comic book. I understand if they ran out of water -- that happens -- but she was carrying a lighter, for Pete's sake!

A lighter in the woods is a magic wand! Easy fire! You make a big, smoky fire in the day to guide rescuers and at night to provide warmth, light, chase off animals and to guide rescuers! A helicopter at night can spot a campfire even in a thicket of trees.

Turn Suvivorman loose with a lighter and he'll be so delighted he'll stop biatching about having to lug his cameras around.

Rule of thumb: when hiking in the wilds, start rationing water when you realize you're freaking lost! Also, carry more in your back pack than just water. A couple of cheap survival blankets, some trail rations, a few LIGHTERS and if not a cheap flash light, then a road flare or two. Nearly every drug store sells a small, minimal content first aid kit also.

Maybe a can or two of dehydrated water.
Get it? Dehydrated water?
Just add water?
No?
Never heard of them? I guess you never heard of Canned Florida Sunshine or Canned California air.

Before your time I guess.

/ (crickets)
 
2013-04-09 03:34:58 PM  
www.mindskin.com
 
2013-04-09 03:37:00 PM  

studs up: Yes. Clicky clicky clicky click.


www.mediaite.com
 
2013-04-09 04:07:00 PM  

whidbey: studs up: Yes. Clicky clicky clicky click.

[www.mediaite.com image 624x352]


You have totally changed me with your cartoon meme.
/you know what the shine box reference is, don't you?
//I know, I know, everything is racist.
 
2013-04-09 04:20:39 PM  

studs up: Cyclonic Cooking Action: 500 feet from Holy Jim trail, I bet at least 30 people a day mountain bike there.  And thats a low guess.  The trail head usually has at least a few cars parked there at any given daylight hour.

The Modjeska entrance? Mountain bikers go by my father-in-laws house all day. 30 is a very conservative number. Also, they make a lot more noise since the cougar attack.


dude... that farking cougar. She was one smart cookie. Scared the hell out of my mom when pa and I continued riding there.

Ah the good ol days. I remember when I would occasionally ditch school at Dana, ride out to Harding truck trail, up to Santiago Peak, down Joplin to Old camp and then out the Luge to cooks corner then back home. Good times.

anyways, this chick's an idiot. I can't fathom how she got lost.
 
2013-04-09 04:37:54 PM  
Bathsalts!@!
 
2013-04-09 04:42:45 PM  
Shrooming or possibly retarded. Long story short, if you get lost and you have your ten essentials (otherwise known as "water to keep you sane/gear to keep your ass warm for a night", it's hard to die in the wild if search and rescue is looking for you.

AND YOU STAY PUT FOR CHRIST'S SAKE.

However, since this is a fark thread, I will relate a CSB. So, according to a Sierra Club COL2 I know, she was leading a hike in Anza Borrego in the Coyote Cannon area (it's about seven cannons which drain into a wash/San Diego FARKing Hikers will know what I'm talking about) and they set up at the foot of Coyote Cannon for the night. Everybody set up their tents and whatnot, and went to make dinner, so it was about 6:30 in the evening when they realized they were down a person. As it turns out, one of the old guys on the hike had set up his tent and then just...wandered off. Surprisingly enough, they found the body about a 1/4 of a mile from where the Search and Rescue people had set up their gear. They believe he may have had a stroke, because the old guy was experienced enough to know to stay put in case he got lost.

/csb
 
2013-04-09 04:49:21 PM  

Spam Pajamas: The first date I took my girlfriend on was a hike up to Holy Jim falls. It's about a 5 mile road to get to the trail head but you need a truck, not necessary a 4WD but I wasn't going to beat up my car. So we walked the 5 miles crossing the creek about 7 or 8 times. This was January 3 years ago when we actually got rain that year. So we hike up the trail and can tell there's no way we can make it before it gets dark. Luckily some guy picked us up when we were 1/2 way back to the car. Walking 10 miles in wet shoes is a pain. We eventually borrowed a friend's jeep so we could drive to the trail head and then do the whole hike up. Anyway, any idiot could just go down the mountain instead of up and then follow the creek bed out. These guys were shroomin'. Which brings me to one more csb. I was this idiot too 20 years ago. Me and my girlfriend had just moved to Tahoe. We got mushrooms and wine and hiked up to the "Top of the world" (a place you can see North shore, South shore and the whole Carson Valley) to watch the sunset. It was AWESOME!! But being young and dumb, we forgot once the sun sets...it's farking Dark! Luckily it was only a mile of blindly stumbling down the mountain to get back to the car and only another mile drive home. What peace we felt to walk in the door. Then I turned on the TV to see Prince in his yellow assless pants with 50 couples doing sex acts in the background and we flipped out again. Turned out to be the MTV Video awards...1991. Good times! Man I'm getting old.

/csb


This is a completely awesome narrative. I suspect that if you're not already a climber, you would fit right in if you gave it a shot. Many of my stories start with "I know this was kinda stupid, but I was so far above my last good pro that it didn't really matter..." By the time you get to the part about duct taping your knee to the steering wheel because your hands were too cramped to drive and you wanted to get pizza, it all just makes sense...
 
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