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2013-04-09 09:12:19 AM
I was thinking yesterday, you know. I really couldn't give a flying crap if North Korea annihilated South Korea. I really don't care. Do you? I'm not saying this as a troll but would you really give up your life for a bunch of ungrateful Koreans? From what I've read they seem like a bunch of lazy over priviliged assholes who want everyone (see white people) to give up their lives to keep their asses (money, wealth) safe. F*ck 'em. It's time North Americans starting looking after our own countries. We get dragged into these wars for a bunch of people who would prefer us as chatel slaves, we get killed, they get rich. Forget it. I wouldn't go to war to save South Korea. Let North Korea have it. This isn't 1950 and the world has changed since the bad of days of spreading communisim.
 
2013-04-09 09:13:36 AM

NobleHam: I've studied Korea for fifteen years.


It's quicker to say "I've studied it out".
 
2013-04-09 09:15:54 AM
Just to put this in perspective for my fellow North Americans.....if Canada and the U.S. entered into a border conflict, do you imagine ever for a second that S. Korea would care? That they'd send troops into Canada/U.S. to protect the lives and property of the people their to preserve those freedoms?
Not farking likely.
 
2013-04-09 09:16:13 AM
meh! nowt is going to happen, Lil'Kim is just pissed cos Thatcher knocked him of the news threads (mostly)
 
2013-04-09 09:22:02 AM

dittybopper: Lehk: You undereestimate the artillery north korea has deployed.

The first shot would BE "the single most devastating mass ordinance barrage the world has ever seen or ever will see again"

And it would be directed at a civilian population.

Actually, I've taken a look at their artillery.   Most of it doesn't have the range to hit the large population centers like Seoul, though some of the more northerly cities are in range.


WHAT "more northerly cities"? Seoul is less than an hour's drive to the DMZ. Are you referring to the northern suburbs of Seoul, like Chonnyangni or Uijongbu? Both of them have US military bases attached, and attacking them would be instant war and the destruction of Best Korea. Or are you referring to out of the way towns in Kangwon-do, like Sokcho, but that's way to the east and really not an important target. There's an Army base in Munsan, northwest of Seoul, close to the Best Korean border, but again the Norks would be insane to hit it.


I'll start getting worried when I hear of troop movements within Best Korea.  Until that time, it's all bluster to show that Un is in charge.

It's Jung Un, not Un. Korean first names are, with a very few exceptions, two syllables, like Mi-Hye, Seung Ho, Hee Bin, Ji Won, and so on.
 
2013-04-09 09:30:18 AM

NobleHam: No, eliminating an oppressive and belligerent dictatorship on the verge of nuclear capability which would destroy any chance of getting rid of them is a prudent call. We're going to go to war with North Korea eventually because we'll have to, it's better to do it now than when they have functioning delivery systems for their weapons.


Fooey.

We won't have to do jack about North Korea other than wait for it to collapse.  Their last ally (that would be China) even approved sanctions on them over this current round of nonsense.

Their government won't survive much longer.  That's why the desperation today.  They know it.  They have almost no industry, little food, and no friends to help.  They're doomed.  That's why they're using this Dr. Evil "get some nukes and hold the world hostage" bit.  It's the last card they can play.

And it isn't going to work.  Nobody is buying it this time.  All we have to do is wait and not send any aid.  Problem will fix itself in the next few years, with any luck.
 
2013-04-09 09:30:41 AM

marius2:


It's warmonger not war mongler
 
2013-04-09 09:33:39 AM
Should probably start working on the Best Korean translation of:

Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!
 
2013-04-09 09:39:10 AM

MythDragon: Why doesn't the NK military go in at feeding time, wrap the little bastard up in a rug, and chuck his ass in a river? Surely they are tired of his shiat. I am sure they enjoy living the perks of high ranking military, but they gotta know this eventualy will be bad news for everyone involved. I imagine one of them can 'retire' Kim, declare himself ruler, and open up lines of communication with the world starting with "Sorry we've been a bunch of assholes, but our people are starving. Please help us get to a level were we sustain ourselves, and we would love to join the rest of the world in harmony. Send in some inspectors if you want, just do what ever it takes to keep our people from dying"


I sincerely doubt that the top of the Best Korean military/government structure cares one bit about anyone who is outside of the apparatus that allows them to hold power. The population is just numbers on a board.
 
2013-04-09 09:43:55 AM

indarwinsshadow: Just to put this in perspective for my fellow North Americans.....if Canada and the U.S. entered into a border conflict, do you imagine ever for a second that S. Korea would care? That they'd send troops into Canada/U.S. to protect the lives and property of the people their to preserve those freedoms?
Not farking likely.


You are an idiot. South Korea has a mutual defense pact with the US, and in fact they have helped us militarily. South Korea sent troops that served under US command in Vietnam and both Gulf wars. 

 From what I've read they seem like a bunch of lazy, over-privileged assholes who want everyone (see white people) to give up their lives to keep their asses (money, wealth) safe.

I've lived there, and I can tell you that you know nothing about South Korea. OK, half an hour drinking with college students in Shinchon might give you that impression, but people in their 40s and over grew up in extreme poverty in a military dictatorship. South Korea's current prosperity has occurred only very recently, and older Koreans are grateful to the US as a military and economic partner. Moreover, South Korea has mandatory military conscription. Every Korean male over 18 is required to spend two years in the ROK military after leaving school, and technically can be called back in to service in time of war  until the age of 35.

To you, South Korea is just a blob on the map, but to me it's names and faces and memories.
 
2013-04-09 09:44:05 AM

Ringshadow: [m1ek.dahmus.org image 625x265]

Put up or shut up, NorK. You're the fat kid in gym class threatening to beat everyone up with their kung-fu.


Or with their country lobster

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/marginally obscure
 
2013-04-09 09:45:07 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Gawdzila: "Pyongyang has shown no sign of preparing its 1.2 million-strong army for war, indicating the threats could be partly intended for domestic purposes"
That pretty much sums it up.

True, but I'm still a little concerned because we might not be able to tell if they mobilized their army.  They have effectively no fuel, food, or other supplies, and the majority of the army is on the DMZ anyway.  There wouldn't be a whole lot of movement even if they did "mobilize."

That said though, I agree, this is almost certainly internal bluster.  Which makes me wonder why they even bother----as Jon Stewart pointed out last week, NK civilians don't have access to outside media.  Kim could just tell his people he conquered America and burned down NY for all we care.  It'd work just as well and it wouldn't bother anyone outside of NK.


Yeah but then citizens would be like, ok great, where's all the food now? You said America was starving us
 
2013-04-09 09:48:40 AM

namegoeshere: rwfan: Duck_of_Doom: HaywoodJablonski: Can we have global thermonuclear war already? I'm sick of all the foreplay

Like sleeping with my mom, you'd just be disappointed and wish this never started in the first place.

Spaced Lion: 6 days until KJU hits critical retard mass.

Wasn't there some warning given to diplomats to GTFO by the 10th?  It was posted in another of the zillion NK threads last week.  NK has been beating the war drums very hard over the past few weeks.  Why is he ratcheting up the rhetoric?  Can't just be for food aid.

Not food aid, this time he is holding out for McDonald's
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Note the resemblance.


This is a bit of a threadjack, sorry. That little boy's name is Jambik. He's got his own documentary, and it is sad and a bit horrifying and will make you angry. It is well worth watching. Spoiler: He's not that size because of a Big Mac addiction.


I've always wondered if people who used this image to mock Americans noticed that the window clings are clearly not in English
 
2013-04-09 10:01:58 AM

The WindowLicker: They warned the folks in SOUTH Korea to leave.  They were still welcoming tourists (and their money) to Best Korea.


no, they issued warnings to foreign embassies to leave before the 10th.  Best Korea said they couldn't guarantee safety of foreigners still in pyongyang after the 9th.
 
2013-04-09 10:10:57 AM
                               Best Korea warns U.S. it has activated long, long time range Rockkets
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2013-04-09 10:12:29 AM
Nothing happens until China says so.
 
2013-04-09 10:13:59 AM
Yeah, here's the thing: if you're going to fight someone, especially someone a lot bigger than you, you don't walk up to them and say "I'm going to punch you."  You wait until they turn around and then you punch them in the back of their farking neck.
 
2013-04-09 10:14:47 AM

Gyrfalcon: Gawdzila: "Pyongyang has shown no sign of preparing its 1.2 million-strong army for war, indicating the threats could be partly intended for domestic purposes"
That pretty much sums it up.

Yep yep.

They cannot go across the DMZ, because there are so many land mines there, they'd lose half their army in the crossing; they cannot go over because whatever air force they have would be shot out of the skies in minutes. They can't go around, because the US carrier group in the Pacific is right there, not to mention Japan's Defense Force (aka the Japanese Army). Now, they've tried going under at several times in history, but there's a limit to how many soldiers you can send through tunnels per hour, and tunnels are insanely easy to kill people in, as al-Qaeda and the Taliban learned to their dismay.

An artillery barrage would seriously damage Seoul, and kill many thousands of people; and guarantee that soon South Korea would be an island nation. And that's the ONLY thing Kim has got as a realistic option at this point. He could conceivably throw a nuke in there--and merely guarantee that the final strike that kills his country would come from several points on the map besides America.

No matter how the scaremongers and war enthusiasts want to whip this up, and even admitting that some scenarios look somewhat worse for South Korea, Kim simply cannot win any kind of war, or even a battle of any size or duration. And the only reason, I suspect, that the US and China are even holding back at this point is to try to save the millions of North Koreans whose only real crime is existing in a country with psychos for dictators.


What he said.

When NK attacked in 1950 the US military was a shell of it's WWII strength, the South Korean army was barely 2 years old, and Japan had no military.   NK's attack was a tactical surprise and they were using equipment similar to that of the UN forces.  Despite all those advantages, the war was essentially over in two months when UN forces broke out of Pusan.  In less than 4 months, the US flag was flying over Pyongyang.  Air power, training, and combat experience played huge roles in the UN victory.

Today's NK military is basically an early Vietnam-era force with a small bit of late cold war vintage aircraft (MiG-29s and MiG-23s) representing the sharp end of their stick.  They're under constant surveillance so they'll be no surprise.  Finally, in addition to the US, they'd face South Korean and Japanese military forces that are among the best trained and equipped in the world.  Should they attack, the NKs would face roughly 600 combat aircraft equal to their best (35 MiG-29s) and vastly superior to everything else, 15 Aegis-equipped destroyers, and almost 30 modern submarines - from Japan and South Korea alone.  On the ground, they'd be sending obsolete-in-the-1970s T-55s to face a South Korean army equipped with 1,500 or so tanks at least equal and probably superior to a first gulf war Abrams.

Even without the US, they're up against an insurmountable task.  They could do some damage but the reply would make the Kuwati "Highway of Death" look like a church picnic.
 
2013-04-09 10:14:49 AM
From the CBC.ca article on this:

South Korean President Park Geun-hye, who has sought to re-engage North Korea with dialogue and aid since taking office in February, expressed exasperation Tuesday with what she called the "endless vicious cycle" of Seoul answering Pyongyang's hostile behaviour with compromise, only to get more hostility.


My ex's brother had paranoid schizophrenia.  When he was having an...episode...you were supposed to agree with whatever he said and do your best to appease him.  It didn't help.  I'm suddenly seeing a lot of parallels between that and the Koreas.
 
2013-04-09 10:18:02 AM

JustGetItRight:

When NK attacked in 1950 the US military was a shell of it's WWII strength, the South Korean army was barely 2 years old, and Japan had no military.   NK's attack was a tactical surprise and they were using equipment similar to that of the UN forces.  Despite all those advantages, the war was essentially over in two months when UN forces broke out of Pusan. In less than 4 months, the US flag was flying over Pyongyang. Air power, training, and combat experience played huge roles in the UN victory.

Today's NK military is basically an early Vietnam-era force with a small bit of late cold war vintage aircraft (MiG-29s and MiG-23s) representing the sharp end of their stick. They're under constant surveillance so they'll be no surprise. Finally, in addition to the US, they'd face South Korean and Japanese military forces that are among the best trained and equipped in the world. Should they attack, the NKs would face roughly 600 combat aircraft equal to their best (35 MiG-29s) and vastly superior to everything else, 15 Aegis-equipped destroyers, and almost 30 modern submarines - from Japan and South Korea alone. On the ground, they'd be sending obsolete-in-the-1970s T-55s to face a South Korean army equipped with 1,500 or so tanks at least equal and probably superior to a first gulf war Abrams.

Even without the US, they're up against an insurmountable task. They could do some damage but the reply would make the Kuwati "Highway of Death" look like a church picnic.


Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan?
 
2013-04-09 10:21:44 AM
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2013-04-09 10:39:10 AM

JustGetItRight: In less than 4 months, the US flag was flying over Pyongyang.

  If only we had stopped there. The Marine Corps ranks this one right up there with  Iwo Jima and Belleau Wood.
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2013-04-09 10:41:26 AM

Gyrfalcon: Now, they've tried going under at several times in history, but there's a limit to how many soldiers you can send through tunnels per hour, and tunnels are insanely easy to kill people in, as al-Qaeda and the Taliban learned to their dismay.


A few of those weaponized Happy Fun Balls, or perhaps a strategically diverted water main, would make it a very bad day for anyone in a tunnel. I think the tunnels are more for spies/commando squads rather than full-scale invasion.
 
2013-04-09 10:42:33 AM

nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan?


North Korea likes sending rockets Japan's way.
 
2013-04-09 10:44:40 AM

This text is now purple: nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan?

North Korea likes sending rockets Japan's way.


Maybe so, but why would they waste their precious rockets on Japan, a nation they stand no chance of conquering whatsoever? They don't even have a blue water Navy of any substance, they certainly can't send a million troops to Japan. No doubt Japan is uneasy about this whole situation, but I really doubt they'd come to play a shooting war.
 
2013-04-09 10:45:50 AM

NobleHam: War's never ideal, but this time it's preferable to the alternative of letting North Korea stick around. And building North Korea won't be our expense to pay. What isn't covered by private investment (see German re-unification) will be covered by Seoul.


Can you honestly sit there and type that?  That if we go in and bomb the shiat out of North Korea that we WOULDN'T be paying for it?  That is delusional.

We'll be paying out money to Halliburton to go in and do a huge chunk of the work because that's what we do.  It will cost us TRILLIONS, even if South Korea, Japan and China pick up a chunk of the tab.  Not to mention the cost of human lives that will get tossed aside and destroyed.

If you're advocating war, sorry, you've lost the debate (and I fully believe North Korea deserves whatever they have coming to them).  You can saying this "isn't Iraq," but the lessons of Iraq should be obvious.  Fighting a preemptive war is wrong and destructive to our own position in the world.

Again, if North Korea tries something stupid, I'm all for retaliation.  But not until then.  (And if it happens retaliation will start about 5 minutes after the North makes a move.)
 
2013-04-09 10:47:36 AM

BorgiaGinz: dittybopper: Lehk: You undereestimate the artillery north korea has deployed.

The first shot would BE "the single most devastating mass ordinance barrage the world has ever seen or ever will see again"

And it would be directed at a civilian population.

Actually, I've taken a look at their artillery.   Most of it doesn't have the range to hit the large population centers like Seoul, though some of the more northerly cities are in range.

WHAT "more northerly cities"? Seoul is less than an hour's drive to the DMZ. Are you referring to the northern suburbs of Seoul, like Chonnyangni or Uijongbu? Both of them have US military bases attached, and attacking them would be instant war and the destruction of Best Korea. Or are you referring to out of the way towns in Kangwon-do, like Sokcho, but that's way to the east and really not an important target. There's an Army base in Munsan, northwest of Seoul, close to the Best Korean border, but again the Norks would be insane to hit it.


I'm talking about the northern suburbs.

Drive time isn't a good indicator of artillery range.

The outskirts of Seoul proper are about 19 miles from the closest part of North Korea.  That puts most of Seoul out of range of almost all of the KPA artillery.   In fact, for the overwhelming majority of KPA artillery that has the range to hit Seoul, it has to be stationed in the area directly south of Kaesong, a very circumscribed area that will be subject to intense counter-battery fire and strikes by precision munitions if things ever come to blows.

There is artillery that can hit it from longer ranges, but the DPRK doesn't have all that much of it, and it's mostly either rockets, or big tubes, and both have slow set-up and reload times, so it's not going to be like a constant rain of shells and rockets.

No, the KPA isn't going to target civilian areas, they are going to try to hit military bases first and foremost.  To do otherwise would be stupid and basically suicidal:  You don't ignore the forces you are going to be fighting.  There are civilian areas near those bases, and they'll get hit, but that's an example of collateral damage.

I'll start getting worried when I hear of troop movements within Best Korea.  Until that time, it's all bluster to show that Un is in charge.

It's Jung Un, not Un. Korean first names are, with a very few exceptions, two syllables, like Mi-Hye, Seung Ho, Hee Bin, Ji Won, and so on.


I'm aware of that.  My son is half Korean.  I was dissing him by using just the last syllable of his name, which in English has a negative connotation (Un-cola=not cola, unattractive = not attractive, etc.).
 
2013-04-09 10:49:43 AM

nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan


The rockets that were moved to the east coast would likely fly over Japan, which Japan has said they WILL shoot out of the sky.
 
2013-04-09 10:50:15 AM

HMS_Blinkin: Kim could just tell his people he conquered America and burned down NY for all we care. It'd work just as well and it wouldn't bother anyone outside of NK.


Nah. You can't let people go around making claims like that. They lose their respect.

If he said he talked us down, that's one thing, but burned down New York? No dice. I'm not saying we need to bomb them in that case, but stealth drones with leaflets full of pictures of New York being awesome in 2013 would be acceptable.
 
2013-04-09 10:50:58 AM

The Bestest: nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan

The rockets that were moved to the east coast would likely fly over Japan, which Japan has said they WILL shoot out of the sky.


I don't blame them one bit, but I doubt they will do anything other than that. Their obligation to protect their people requires them to shoot down any such missiles, but I seriously doubt they would do anything else.
 
2013-04-09 10:51:23 AM

The Bestest: nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan

The rockets that were moved to the east coast would likely fly over Japan, which Japan has said they WILL shoot out of the sky.


I hope so. My life sucks enough without Nork rockets landing on my head.
 
2013-04-09 10:55:40 AM

universebetween: ontariolightning: @W7VOA: Yonhap quotes "multiple gov't sources" saying #ROK believes #DPRK "ready to launch missile" moved to east sea. #Korea

i was sitting here. really high. wondering how cool it would not be if china was secretly using north korea as a puppet to instigate war with the us. stupid nervous scared americans buy shiat. also it would pull us further into debt. after n.korea instigates war wit hthe south and we step in china doesnt have to fake pretense anymore and they can actually DEFEND north korea who they were already using as OFFENSE and then go on the offense themselves and take out whoever they want. maybe japan.


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2013-04-09 11:04:39 AM

doglover: The Bestest: nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan

The rockets that were moved to the east coast would likely fly over Japan, which Japan has said they WILL shoot out of the sky.

I hope so. My life sucks enough without Nork rockets landing on my head.


Could be worse.  Could be Snork rockets.

www.nationmaster.com
 
2013-04-09 11:07:25 AM

dittybopper: Could be worse.  Could be Snork rockets.


If you could breathe underwater, where would you go?
 
2013-04-09 11:10:48 AM

Duck_of_Doom: HaywoodJablonski: Can we have global thermonuclear war already? I'm sick of all the foreplay

Like sleeping with my mom, you'd just be disappointed and wish this never started in the first place.

Spaced Lion: 6 days until KJU hits critical retard mass.

Wasn't there some warning given to diplomats to GTFO by the 10th?  It was posted in another of the zillion NK threads last week.  NK has been beating the war drums very hard over the past few weeks.  Why is he ratcheting up the rhetoric?  Can't just be for food aid.

If I were a conspiracy nut, I'd say they are the proxy between China and the US.  China could probably gain a lot by taking over NK (mineral rights, a further destabilized US); it may not even care about the human rights disaster that is awaiting them since China doesn't seem so bleeding heart nation-building as the West is perceived to be.


IMHO, China already has access to NK's mineral rights, China is NK's biggest trading partner.

Why rock the boat and bring the ire of your biggest trading partner, the US, by invading a shiathole?

Let it fester and take the cheap labor and minerals.

NK is playing a game of brinkmanship to get food and avoid a coup. They are on the cusp of a horrible famine like they suffered in the 90's and the army needs to eat or Lil Kim dies.

They've been playing this game for a long time, the collective world is sick of it and wants them to rot.

/This will end when someone shows up with food, I'm betting China will feed them.
 
2013-04-09 11:11:32 AM

indarwinsshadow: I was thinking yesterday, you know. I really couldn't give a flying crap if North Korea annihilated South Korea. I really don't care. Do you? I'm not saying this as a troll but would you really give up your life for a bunch of ungrateful Koreans? From what I've read they seem like a bunch of lazy over priviliged assholes who want everyone (see white people) to give up their lives to keep their asses (money, wealth) safe. F*ck 'em. It's time North Americans starting looking after our own countries. We get dragged into these wars for a bunch of people who would prefer us as chatel slaves, we get killed, they get rich. Forget it. I wouldn't go to war to save South Korea. Let North Korea have it. This isn't 1950 and the world has changed since the bad of days of spreading communisim.


4/10. Decent blend of racism, economic and military ignorance. I'm surprised the term "buckethead" didn't make it in there.
 
2013-04-09 11:12:49 AM

p4p3rm4t3: universebetween: ontariolightning: @W7VOA: Yonhap quotes "multiple gov't sources" saying #ROK believes #DPRK "ready to launch missile" moved to east sea. #Korea

i was sitting here. really high. wondering how cool it would not be if china was secretly using north korea as a puppet to instigate war with the us. stupid nervous scared americans buy shiat. also it would pull us further into debt. after n.korea instigates war wit hthe south and we step in china doesnt have to fake pretense anymore and they can actually DEFEND north korea who they were already using as OFFENSE and then go on the offense themselves and take out whoever they want. maybe japan.

                                                                                                                                    THIS.


?? You're agreeing that really high people come up with stupid geopolitical theories?
 
2013-04-09 11:18:39 AM
OK I know this is kind of rhetorical BUT why would KJU suddenly have this heartfelt need to safe the lives of 'foreigners' from certain doom and death while letting his own countrymen perish in a nuclearball of fire?

I mean if I am hellbent of starting a thermonuclear war that I know will kill millions why would I care if a few hundred tourists or people staying here also dies in the process?
 
2013-04-09 11:20:56 AM

mbillips: p4p3rm4t3: universebetween: ontariolightning: @W7VOA: Yonhap quotes "multiple gov't sources" saying #ROK believes #DPRK "ready to launch missile" moved to east sea. #Korea

i was sitting here. really high. wondering how cool it would not be if china was secretly using north korea as a puppet to instigate war with the us. stupid nervous scared americans buy shiat. also it would pull us further into debt. after n.korea instigates war wit hthe south and we step in china doesnt have to fake pretense anymore and they can actually DEFEND north korea who they were already using as OFFENSE and then go on the offense themselves and take out whoever they want. maybe japan.

                                                                                                                                    THIS.

?? You're agreeing that really high people come up with stupid geopolitical theories?


China has helped DPRK by fighting with them against the US and South Korea before. They have also been keeping North Korea alive.
As stated up thread nothing happens unless China says so. Why is it stupid?
 
2013-04-09 11:25:33 AM

miss diminutive: spamdog: Dude, you have to have breaks between provocations otherwise people will just stop taking them seriously.

Seriously. He's turning into the boy who cried wolf.

i2.cdn.turner.com

 
2013-04-09 11:25:44 AM
namegoeshere:
This is a bit of a threadjack, sorry. That little boy's name is Jambik. He's got his own documentary, and it is sad and a bit horrifying and will make you angry. It is well worth watching. Spoiler: He's not that size because of a Big Mac addiction.

Unless he has a medical condition which requires him to eat massive quantities of fast food, he should not be gorging himself. I put the blame solely with the mother, for keeping his weight ever increasing to keep the attention and money coming to her.
 
2013-04-09 11:28:15 AM

indarwinsshadow: I was thinking yesterday, you know. I really couldn't give a flying crap if North Korea annihilated South Korea. I really don't care. Do you? I'm not saying this as a troll but would you really give up your life for a bunch of ungrateful Koreans? From what I've read they seem like a bunch of lazy over priviliged assholes who want everyone (see white people) to give up their lives to keep their asses (money, wealth) safe. F*ck 'em. It's time North Americans starting looking after our own countries. We get dragged into these wars for a bunch of people who would prefer us as chatel slaves, we get killed, they get rich. Forget it. I wouldn't go to war to save South Korea. Let North Korea have it. This isn't 1950 and the world has changed since the bad of days of spreading communisim.


Well.. considering a good chunk of computer memory chips are made in SK, a large amount of equipment for displays, radio transmission, and the second largest shipbuilding in the world... You might want to rethink that whole 'NK annihilating SK' bit.
 
2013-04-09 11:33:33 AM

tgambitg: Well.. considering a good chunk of computer memory chips are made in SK, a large amount of equipment for displays, radio transmission, and the second largest shipbuilding in the world... You might want to rethink that whole 'NK annihilating SK' bit.


Most of the world's solid-state memory and TFT screens of all sizes come from South Korea.
 
2013-04-09 11:38:51 AM

nekom: Wait, why would the Japanese get involved in this? I agree that worst Korea could probably hold their own even without U.S. assistance (which we are treaty-bound to provide anyway), but why in the world would Japan have anything to do with it if the shiat finally hits the fan?


For starters, next to the RoK they're the most threatened by NK's nuclear arsenal.  Not only are they within easy range, they'd also be very directly impacted by any detonation on the Korean peninsula.

In the 1980s, NK was known to kidnap Japanese citizens.  NK missile tests overfly Japanese airspace.  NK vessels also poach Japanese waters and engage in espionage.

The two nations have even fought a naval engagement this (21st) century.

They don't like each other and the NKs are a clear and present danger to Japan.  You can book it that if the balloon goes up, the Japanese will at the least conduct combat air patrol, AEW, ELINT, tanker  and maritime patrol/escort missions.   I would bet they'd engage in actual air and naval combat operations.
 
2013-04-09 11:39:02 AM

marius2: [img541.imageshack.us image 533x640]

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It's "warMONGER"

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/know the difference.
 
2013-04-09 11:40:15 AM

The Bestest: tgambitg: Well.. considering a good chunk of computer memory chips are made in SK, a large amount of equipment for displays, radio transmission, and the second largest shipbuilding in the world... You might want to rethink that whole 'NK annihilating SK' bit.

Most of the world's solid-state memory and TFT screens of all sizes come from South Korea.


and the major iPhone competitor, hmmm....

/nahhhh
 
2013-04-09 11:40:35 AM

marius2: [img541.imageshack.us image 533x640]


Can someone please fix the misspelling of "monger" if this thing is going to keep turning up for a while?
 
2013-04-09 11:43:00 AM

mbillips: p4p3rm4t3: universebetween: ontariolightning: @W7VOA: Yonhap quotes "multiple gov't sources" saying #ROK believes #DPRK "ready to launch missile" moved to east sea. #Korea

i was sitting here. really high. wondering how cool it would not be if china was secretly using north korea as a puppet to instigate war with the us. stupid nervous scared americans buy shiat. also it would pull us further into debt. after n.korea instigates war wit hthe south and we step in china doesnt have to fake pretense anymore and they can actually DEFEND north korea who they were already using as OFFENSE and then go on the offense themselves and take out whoever they want. maybe japan.

                                                                                                                                    THIS.

?? You're agreeing that really high people come up with stupid geopolitical theories?


China has helped DPRK by fighting with them against the US and South Korea before. They have also been keeping North Korea alive.
As stated up thread nothing happens unless China says so. Why is it stupid?


You could also go with what RT said about it. Blaming it on the Americans.
LINK
 
2013-04-09 11:49:10 AM
China has nothing to gain from an open -or- proxy conflict with the US. China's all about playing the long game and coming into a conflict against the US over NK is contrary to those efforts.
 
2013-04-09 11:58:14 AM

Mojongo: JustGetItRight: In less than 4 months, the US flag was flying over Pyongyang.
  If only we had stopped there. The Marine Corps ranks this one right up there with  Iwo Jima and Belleau Wood.
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"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things."

-Chesty Puller

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"Now who wants cake?"

-Chesty Puller
 
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