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2013-04-09 10:26:07 PM

Fish in a Barrel: Would it be too far off to say that a good strategy here would be to just sit on the brakes, wait until you hear the other guy spinning is tires, and then go?


Yes. The driver of truck had it in HI and hit the gas breaking the tires free at which point he lost all traction and the VW one. He should have put it in 4LO and in the lowest gear and then started off with as little gas as possible. I don't know about a chevy but in a Jeep in 4LO you don't even have to feather the clutch or tap the gas because there is so much reduction, even the starter has enough torques to move a jeep in 4LO and First.

The Chevy also looked like it was full of cheap mods, which is possibly why the tie rods snapped.
 
2013-04-09 10:30:49 PM

Zombalupagus: Reminds me of an old YouTube video of a Toyota pulling a stuck Hummer out of sand. Link


H2s suck and are a poor facsimile of the H1.  Chevy/GMCs tend to have sucked in my experience.  Had several (wagon, truck x2, sports wagon, suburban x2, lumina, plus some sedan in the 80s- forgot what kind).  I know, my vehicles are the alpha baller type.  Be jealous.
 
2013-04-09 10:32:18 PM
Did have a corvette-it was an amazing car.  Only chevy/gmc I have had that did not disappoint.
 
2013-04-09 10:57:09 PM
Exactly what I expected. Gotta weigh down a truck to get traction when not in 4wd.
 
2013-04-09 11:01:41 PM

Ebenator: Besides making the driver look like a huge D-bag, what is the advantage of having those huge stacks in your pickup?


none...

The breweries maintence guy's daughters fiance (bueler) has this jacked up monstrosity of a chevy

damn thing is clean, never seen a drop of mug in its life and his this one ENOURMOUS pipe coming out the middle of the bed right behind the crew cab,

they brought the truck to the brewery to pick up a keg.. because... its a truck I guess...

I looked out the window at the damn thing and just had to slowly wander out the door to.. Gawk at the thing. The girl is just laughing as I stand there looking at the thing all confused like..

" what in the name of the great Satan made any of y'all think THAT was a good idea"?

it was impossible to life a keg up into the bed, I had to break out the fork lift

sheeee-iit... and I'm the one that actually LOOKS like a hillbilly
 
2013-04-09 11:15:17 PM

Cerebral Knievel: this one ENOURMOUS pipe coming out the middle of the bed right behind the crew cab


Judging from the trucks like that I've seen around, I'll bet it's loud a fark, too.  That would drive me nuts.

What I've always wondered is, what do you do when it rains?  Just let the stack fill up?
 
2013-04-09 11:37:22 PM

Zombalupagus: Reminds me of an old YouTube video of a Toyota pulling a stuck Hummer out of sand. Link


Those kind of videos are fun.

Like this one or  this one.

/Love my Sidekick.
//Not my video.
///Mine's a 2 door convertible like that Tracker.
 
2013-04-10 04:25:44 AM

BEER_ME_in_CT: prjindigo: where the fark did they find a jackoff that'd by that kind of truck but still install a LEGAL height tow hitch?!?

You need to have the hitch where the trailer will be level with it. Gotta get a low-ball with a lifted truck. My guess is anyone who'd buy that kind of truck would need a low hitch if they were smart..


Way to avoid the question!

If the truck had been stock with HALF the traction control the 2egg came out the factory with, it would have played rag-doll with the 2egg.
 
2013-04-10 05:33:18 AM
As soon as I saw Touareg I knew the outcome.  Do people not remember their original ad campaign?

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2013-04-10 07:37:48 AM

cirby: The problem isn't torque. The wheel spin on the truck shows that. They're in more or less the same weight class - but most of the pickup's weight is in the front when it's unloaded.

Put a couple of thousand pounds in the truck bed and try again.


Only if you also put the same weight in the VW. fair is fair. The chevy broke, the VW didn't.
 
2013-04-10 08:56:09 AM

Enormous-Schwanstucker: Pipes that size would on a largely stock gas engine = loss of torque.


So, back pressure creates torque?  Does that work on the same principles as R-Type stickers positively affecting horsepower?
 
2013-04-10 09:29:58 AM

fatbear: cirby: The problem isn't torque. The wheel spin on the truck shows that. They're in more or less the same weight class - but most of the pickup's weight is in the front when it's unloaded.

Put a couple of thousand pounds in the truck bed and try again.

Only if you also put the same weight in the VW. fair is fair. The chevy broke, the VW didn't.


Yeah. You can't stack the odds in favor of one and then say "try again" under the guise of it being a fair fight. The truck needing the extra weight in order to match it's opponent is an inferiority with the truck in this application and shouldn't be whitewashed. It is what it is.
 
2013-04-10 09:45:16 AM

Bruce Campbell: Enormous-Schwanstucker: Pipes that size would on a largely stock gas engine = loss of torque.

So, back pressure creates torque?  Does that work on the same principles as R-Type stickers positively affecting horsepower?


Well, I was being deliberately simplistic but too many other factors. If the engine is not tuned to work with those giant fart cans or that sewer pipe sized exhaust you'll see a drop in performance.

And yes, the R-Type stickers increase performance :)
 
2013-04-10 10:44:52 AM

prjindigo: BEER_ME_in_CT: prjindigo: where the fark did they find a jackoff that'd by that kind of truck but still install a LEGAL height tow hitch?!?

You need to have the hitch where the trailer will be level with it. Gotta get a low-ball with a lifted truck. My guess is anyone who'd buy that kind of truck would need a low hitch if they were smart..

Way to avoid the question!

If the truck had been stock with HALF the traction control the 2egg came out the factory with, it would have played rag-doll with the 2egg.


Except that "stock" means it *doesn't* have half the traction control.

VW wins, regardless of the excuses.
 
2013-04-10 12:03:32 PM
Depending on the package the GM had 4 low locks all the diffs and you get true 4wd. In 4 high it should lock the rear, but won't lock the front or center so you won't drive all 4. I imagine he just stuck it in 4 hi expecting to pull the little SUV around like a toy.

Watching idiot truck pulls like this is fun, but I'm not gonna do it with anything I own. It doesn't prove anything and you're likely to break something. Not to mention what happens if you start getting pulled backward and the other guy decides to drag you around for a bit.
 
2013-04-10 03:00:22 PM
WhereTF does someone see tie rods breaking?  There are no broken tie rods as far as I can tell.  The front end geometry tells me the driver of the truck turned.  I only sell car parts for a living and worked as a professional mechanic for 18 months though, so I might have missed something...
 
2013-04-10 04:55:43 PM

wotnartd: WhereTF does someone see tie rods breaking?  There are no broken tie rods as far as I can tell.  The front end geometry tells me the driver of the truck turned.  I only sell car parts for a living and worked as a professional mechanic for 18 months though, so I might have missed something...


'tie rods broke' is a cover for 'my penis was smaller'
 
2013-04-10 05:00:16 PM

Bruce Campbell: Enormous-Schwanstucker: Pipes that size would on a largely stock gas engine = loss of torque.

So, back pressure creates torque?  Does that work on the same principles as R-Type stickers positively affecting horsepower?


excessively low exit pressure(caused by unrestricted pipes like that) can in fact make a big gaping hole in your torque curve.

the engine relies on a certain degree of tuned back-pressure to keep the incoming charge of fuel/air from exiting the cylinder due to its own inertia.

in regular cars it's not so big a thing but in long-stroke engines it's a problem. in two-strokes it's an entire field of study you could build an engineering doctoral thesis on.

general rule of thumb is, if you're rocking more than about 400-500 horses, go with a 3-4" pipe. less than that you're choking it. more than that, you're wasting fuel/air that could be better used powering the engine, and is instead getting detonated in the exhaust stacks(which is part of why those huge fart pipes are so obnoxiously loud)
 
2013-04-10 05:10:50 PM

buttery_shame_cave: the engine relies on a certain degree of tuned back-pressure to keep the incoming charge of fuel/air from exiting the cylinder due to its own inertia.


This is the first sensible description of why low back-pressure is bad that I've heard.  Normally it just gets butchered into, "the engine uses back-pressure to close the valves," which makes no farking sense.
 
2013-04-10 05:43:15 PM

Fish in a Barrel: buttery_shame_cave: the engine relies on a certain degree of tuned back-pressure to keep the incoming charge of fuel/air from exiting the cylinder due to its own inertia.

This is the first sensible description of why low back-pressure is bad that I've heard.  Normally it just gets butchered into, "the engine uses back-pressure to close the valves," which makes no farking sense.


fluid dynamics is such a fascinatingsubject. the number of ways you can induce back-pressure and how to calculate them is bloody fun. hard, but fun. put it this way, there's a reason the pipes on funnycars are shaped the way they are, and are the length they are.

you can, in theory, run very large pipes, provided your initial header pipes are tuned for your engine's peak power range, etc. but most people don't do this, they just cram on whatever they can fit in under the theory of 'bigger is better unghunghungh'

because while of course tuned backpressure is good, being able to induce artificially low pressures immediately after is also good, because keeping the backpressure wave in the pipe is bad... so on and so on...


back-pressure closing valves is an actual thing, but only on valve-based pulsejets, that i know of.
 
2013-04-11 03:23:50 PM

buttery_shame_cave: excessively low exit pressure(caused by unrestricted pipes like that) can in fact make a big gaping hole in your torque curve.


Most of these fat piped systems are cat-back.  I always thought that stock catalytic converters already do enough restriction that, unless you've replaced it, it doesn't really matter what is after it.
 
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