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(IT World)   Paleontologists are ticked off that dinosaurs in upcoming Jurassic Park 4 won't have feathers   (itworld.com) divider line 77
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2013-04-09 12:19:51 AM
It's sort of fun that folks like to hold onto the idea that dinosaurs were somehow plodding and unsophisticated critters. When they had 135 million years to branch out from their earliest forms. Mammals, sort of had to wait to really branch out into roles, until after the dinosaurs had passed on. In fairness, you can say that mammals have been more successful--in that they have been on the Earth in some form or another, for about 225 million years--but then again, there is also the argument that dinosaurs continued on until today, as warm blooded birds. Yes, they don't exactly rule the world in the same fashion in being in every damn niche, but that continuity does mean that they are damn successful critters, and if you accept the birds ARE dinosaur descendants, then that sort of pushes mammals success into perspective.

The more we learn about sharks, the more we realize that they have sophisticated senses, their chemistry is uniquely suited for their roles, and likewise, crocodilians have a rep for being "primitive" yet oddly enough, they are suited for their roles, and haven't changed much outwardly, because there was little reason to--not when they have adapted to those roles so well, even WITH the die offs that killed so many species. Multiple times. Their senses are tuned to their roles in manners we are just now beginning to really understand, and the more we study these "simple" critters, the more we realize just how sophisticated these critters are.
 
2013-04-09 12:29:57 AM
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2013-04-09 12:31:24 AM
hubiestubert:the more we realize just how sophisticated these critters are.

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2013-04-09 01:00:03 AM

Albinoman: Also, T-rex, allosaurus, etc. are more like giant crocodiles, not running around on land. Powerful tale, legs built for launching, eyes and nostrils at the top of their head. If you look at a T-rex foot, they look like the swimming foot of a crocodile with long, relatively slender bones. Not the small, rounder bones used to support large amounts of weight. Their little "arms" would seem useless, but are perfect when youre belly down scooting along the bottom of a lake or river.


Wut?
 
2013-04-09 01:06:33 AM
RAWR!

Don't laugh, chickens are nasty little bastards. They'll happily eat other, their young, or you if they could.
This announcement doesn't really surprise me.
/KFD
 
2013-04-09 01:13:24 AM
I am in the camp that dinosaurs just don't look as terrifying covered in feathers. I don't want to see people getting attacked by giant turkeys, even if those turkeys have disastrously effective killing claws on their feet.
 
2013-04-09 01:16:04 AM

Albinoman: Also, T-rex, allosaurus, etc. are more like giant crocodiles, not running around on land. Powerful tale, legs built for launching, eyes and nostrils at the top of their head. If you look at a T-rex foot, they look like the swimming foot of a crocodile with long, relatively slender bones. Not the small, rounder bones used to support large amounts of weight. Their little "arms" would seem useless, but are perfect when youre belly down scooting along the bottom of a lake or river.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-04-09 01:24:12 AM

ReapTheChaos: Who cares, it's entertainment. Now they'll know how I feel whenever I watch a movie with the U.S. Air Force in it. Just sit there shaking your head thinking; Nope that's wrong. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Bullshiat, that could never happen.


I watched Red Dawn with a bunch of military guys and they all started laughing when they showed the Nork paratroopers.
 
2013-04-09 01:36:31 AM

ReapTheChaos: Who cares, it's entertainment. Now they'll know how I feel whenever I watch a movie with the U.S. Air Force in it. Just sit there shaking your head thinking; Nope that's wrong. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Bullshiat, that could never happen.


So kinda like any time Hollywood shows characters doing anything on a computer, even selling something on eBay?
 
2013-04-09 01:57:49 AM

chrylis: ReapTheChaos: Who cares, it's entertainment. Now they'll know how I feel whenever I watch a movie with the U.S. Air Force in it. Just sit there shaking your head thinking; Nope that's wrong. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Bullshiat, that could never happen.

So kinda like any time Hollywood shows characters doing anything on a computer, even selling something on eBay?


shiat, they can't even accurately portray the making of movies or what actors do with their time, who thinks they can handle anything else?
 
2013-04-09 02:01:27 AM

Fano: shiat, they can't even accurately portray the making of movies or what actors do with their time, who thinks they can handle anything else?


Well, in that case they have an active interest in misrepresenting their own industry.  At least half of the computery stuff they screw up could have been done right with no loss of coherence or shininess.
 
2013-04-09 02:02:56 AM
Threads like this make me wish I owned EVO for the snes (no I don't want to play it on my computer).
 
2013-04-09 02:16:16 AM

Samwise Gamgee: Mugato: FreetardoRivera: Mugato: They wrote in a plot device to explain why they could take creative license with the dinosaur designs. They spliced frog DNA with the dino DNA so they're not going to be exactly like the dinos from 30 million years ago. And since they already established raptors as not having feathers, it would be internally inconsistent to suddenly give them feathers in the sequel.

You paleo-nerds had hundreds of years to let everyone know that some dinos had feathers. It's too late to whine about the depictions of them now.

5/10

What does 5/10 mean?

1/2, or .5 or 50%


You're way too late. Antimatter doesn't love you.
 
2013-04-09 02:19:02 AM

Albinoman: Also, T-rex, allosaurus, etc. are more like giant crocodiles, not running around on land. Powerful tale, legs built for launching, eyes and nostrils at the top of their head. If you look at a T-rex foot, they look like the swimming foot of a crocodile with long, relatively slender bones. Not the small, rounder bones used to support large amounts of weight. Their little "arms" would seem useless, but are perfect when youre belly down scooting along the bottom of a lake or river.


That's a powerful tale you have there.

And by powerful: I mean weak.
 
2013-04-09 02:22:24 AM

Albinoman: Also, T-rex, allosaurus, etc. are more like giant crocodiles, not running around on land. Powerful tale, legs built for launching, eyes and nostrils at the top of their head. If you look at a T-rex foot, they look like the swimming foot of a crocodile with long, relatively slender bones. Not the small, rounder bones used to support large amounts of weight. Their little "arms" would seem useless, but are perfect when youre belly down scooting along the bottom of a lake or river.


Also: this explains all of the kangaroos I catch in my fish wheels.
 
2013-04-09 02:24:27 AM

Tobin_Lam: ReapTheChaos: Who cares, it's entertainment. Now they'll know how I feel whenever I watch a movie with the U.S. Air Force in it. Just sit there shaking your head thinking; Nope that's wrong. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Bullshiat, that could never happen.

I watched Red Dawn with a bunch of military guys and they all started laughing when they showed the Nork paratroopers.


Same thing happened to me, but I was watching it with a bunch of Bronies.
 
2013-04-09 02:56:20 AM

nocturnal001: Raptors with feathers might be scary, but a Trex would look simply retarded.

As a kid I was a dino fanatic, but as I got older and started keeping reptiles as pets the whole thing was confusing regarding body temperature. Dinos wouldn't be cold blooded and be that large, but being warm blooded without fur/feathers would be a huge waste of energy.


I like when people learn scientists semi-recently figured out something and the pretend the reasoned it out their own.

Extra fun when the reasoning is absolute rubbish.

Triple bonus score when I recognize the name as having a completely ignorant opinion in another thread.

Thanks for the laughs.
 
2013-04-09 06:37:56 AM

CygnusDarius: Erix: LordJiro: JP would totally be paleontologically accurate if the dinosaurs had feathers! Never mind the acid-spitting dilophosaurs and the Deinonychus-sized velociraptors.

And the Deinonychus-sized Dilophosaurs..

And Dogson.
[images.wikia.com image 500x271]


Dodson! We got Dodson here!
 
2013-04-09 07:49:42 AM
I don't care whether they are feathered or not.  Just clone them already so we can hunt them.
 
2013-04-09 09:54:22 AM

Kurmudgeon: RAWR!

Don't laugh, chickens are nasty little bastards. They'll happily eat other, their young, or you if they could.
This announcement doesn't really surprise me.
/KFD

KFC

FTFY.
 
2013-04-09 10:15:08 AM

Smackledorfer: Threads like this make me wish I owned EVO for the snes (no I don't want to play it on my computer).


That game was GREAT!  Thanks for reminding me.  Now I have to smack my younger bro around to get my copy of it from him.  Or play an emulator.  I would imagine it's probably 1000 times easier with the any-time save and load capability of an emulator.

It was really fun to play out-of timeline as a weird flying t-rex dinosaur in the ice age or an ass-kicking amphibian in the Jurassic.
 
2013-04-09 10:23:17 AM

SharkaPult: I would imagine it's probably 1000 times easier with the any-time save and load capability of an emulator.


That is why I quit playing emulators (though I did beat Lufia 2's Big Cave with one, because fark it that shiat wasn't happening without an emulator).  I cannot restrain myself from saving and loading cheating in games. I get all perfectionist with them.

/must beat this next guy without getting hit.  reload... reload.. reload.. reload... got him SAVE.
 
2013-04-09 11:53:20 AM
grapplersplanet.com
 
2013-04-09 12:24:54 PM
Some of my friend's dino and Jurassic Park art:


fc02.deviantart.net
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fc06.deviantart.net


More here (pops)
 
2013-04-09 01:03:04 PM

Dinodork: I am totally staying out of this one.


rofl
 
2013-04-09 01:21:04 PM

Albinoman: Also, T-rex, allosaurus, etc. are more like giant crocodiles, not running around on land. Powerful tale, legs built for launching, eyes and nostrils at the top of their head. If you look at a T-rex foot, they look like the swimming foot of a crocodile with long, relatively slender bones. Not the small, rounder bones used to support large amounts of weight. Their little "arms" would seem useless, but are perfect when youre belly down scooting along the bottom of a lake or river.


That was awesome thanks, am now picking chicken bits out of my keyboard.
Lunch and farking, not always a good combo.
 
2013-04-09 11:50:40 PM

scottydoesntknow: Khellendros: scottydoesntknow: [www.walkingwithdinosaurs.com image 800x400]

Nah, the truth is way more interesting.

[imgs.xkcd.com image 740x234]

Meh, I still prefer my raptors to have the raw power to take down prey right there, not flap above it like a seagull caught in a woman's hair.


How would having feathers mean they don't have "raw power"? Did they have to sacrifice some of that power for the feathers? Was the Paleolithic Era like World of WarCraft, where raptors had to equip either feathers for agility or scales for attack power?

People like you make no sense.
 
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