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2013-04-08 08:57:24 PM  

skullkrusher: Tell me, have you figured out how you can be amused by something without finding it funny or are you still pretending not to speak English?


I'm not the one who doesn't understand the definiton of "synonym," here, nor the definitions of "amused" and "funny"
 
2013-04-08 08:57:33 PM  
Oh they are yours alright, for every dollar they (kids and what the Government causes) suck from you, you should have the right to terminate them before they are twenty-one. And the community can help buy supplying a bullet, or injection and holding him down.

You know, for those really bad kids that terrorize the community.
I betcha the youth crime rates would go way down.
 
2013-04-08 08:57:45 PM  

Majick Thise: Can I sue my community for child support?


Depends on how slutty your wife was.
 
2013-04-08 08:57:59 PM  

skullkrusher: wow... dude, that thread is dead.  You left as you should have. Why would you do this to yourself again?


Because you're brittle and so much fun to rile up, oh Count.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:19 PM  
Also I see Red State missed the point by light years. Huzzah!
 
2013-04-08 08:58:33 PM  

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: pretty sure that isn't what she meant, RedState but funny URL

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/08/all-your-kids-are-belong-to-us/

Ancient memes are hilarious! Do a barrel roll!

it's not the meme that's funny. It's the reference of something that doesn't get mentioned anymore and that hasn't been beaten to death incessantly every day for the past 2 or 3 years. I understand you'd be unfamiliar with the concept ;)

It doesn't get mentioned anymore because it was beaten into the ground years ago. Now go post that Rick Astley guy. He's a riot!


actually, getting randomly Rick Rolled is funny again
 
2013-04-08 08:58:59 PM  

lasercannon: Majick Thise: Can I sue my community for child support?

Depends on how slutty your wife was.


I'm sure  skullkrusher will be along to issue his humor ratingTM but I think that's both amusing AND funny. Because, you see, they're two different things!
 
2013-04-08 08:59:13 PM  
Is this the thread where everyone just says the same shiat over and over again without actually analyzing what the subject is like every other fark political thread?

The commercial is the trolliest piece of trolling I've seen in a long time.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:37 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: wow... dude, that thread is dead.  You left as you should have. Why would you do this to yourself again?

Because you're brittle and so much fun to rile up, oh Count.


You don't actually believe that's what you were doing. I don't actually believe that is what you're doing. Why just not be a fool in the first place, Cam? They you won't have to pretend lol trollololol
 
2013-04-08 08:59:53 PM  

skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: pretty sure that isn't what she meant, RedState but funny URL

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/08/all-your-kids-are-belong-to-us/

Ancient memes are hilarious! Do a barrel roll!

it's not the meme that's funny. It's the reference of something that doesn't get mentioned anymore and that hasn't been beaten to death incessantly every day for the past 2 or 3 years. I understand you'd be unfamiliar with the concept ;)

It doesn't get mentioned anymore because it was beaten into the ground years ago. Now go post that Rick Astley guy. He's a riot!

actually, getting randomly Rick Rolled is funny again


THE COUNT HAS SPOKEN! LET NO MAN SAY THAT RICKROLLING IS UNAMUSING OR UNFUNNY HENCEFORTH!
 
2013-04-08 09:00:32 PM  

skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: skullkrusher: wow... dude, that thread is dead.  You left as you should have. Why would you do this to yourself again?

Because you're brittle and so much fun to rile up, oh Count.

You don't actually believe that's what you were doing. I don't actually believe that is what you're doing. Why just not be a fool in the first place, Cam? They you won't have to pretend lol trollololol


Who said I was trolling? Certainly not me. You are aware that you can rile someone up whilst also not trolling, right?
 
2013-04-08 09:00:39 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: lasercannon: Majick Thise: Can I sue my community for child support?

Depends on how slutty your wife was.

I'm sure  skullkrusher will be along to issue his humor ratingTM but I think that's both amusing AND funny. Because, you see, they're two different things!


that was actually pretty witty. Take some notes, Cam.
You don't look like you want to pretend you do.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:45 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: maxalt: And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.

You don't love them anymore?
Then why do you miss them?


la la la I can't hear you, I speak in the past because they are in the past.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:10 PM  
God, I need to lay off the caffeine.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:15 PM  
So, now Conservatives are okay with crack mother's having and raising babies?  With drug addicts selling their children to the nearest sex fiend, just for a few minutes?  With parents beating their kids into mental disability for spilling the cereal?

No, of course they are not.  So pretending that there is some fundamental difference in how liberals and conservatives see the role of the state in ensuring the education and healthy upbringing of children, and implying that liberals are out of touch and looking to create government overreach is imbecilic.  But, judging by this thread, the trolls are eating it up.  What a farce.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:31 PM  
I think I'm just gonna let you post, Cam. I can't possibly shame you more than you can shame you.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:37 PM  

skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: pretty sure that isn't what she meant, RedState but funny URL

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/08/all-your-kids-are-belong-to-us/

Ancient memes are hilarious! Do a barrel roll!

it's not the meme that's funny. It's the reference of something that doesn't get mentioned anymore and that hasn't been beaten to death incessantly every day for the past 2 or 3 years. I understand you'd be unfamiliar with the concept ;)

It doesn't get mentioned anymore because it was beaten into the ground years ago. Now go post that Rick Astley guy. He's a riot!

actually, getting randomly Rick Rolled is funny again


You have to be the most laid back conservative I've ever seen.

And that's a good thing.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:39 PM  

skylabdown: Is this the thread where everyone just says the same shiat over and over again without actually analyzing what the subject is like every other fark political thread?

The commercial is the trolliest piece of trolling I've seen in a long time.


Analyzing the subject is going to make this article sound more intelligent?
 
2013-04-08 09:01:42 PM  
static01.mediaite.com
 
2013-04-08 09:01:53 PM  

skullkrusher: cameroncrazy1984: lasercannon: Majick Thise: Can I sue my community for child support?

Depends on how slutty your wife was.

I'm sure  skullkrusher will be along to issue his humor ratingTM but I think that's both amusing AND funny. Because, you see, they're two different things!

that was actually pretty witty. Take some notes, Cam.
You don't look like you want to pretend you do.


Called it! Now, is it amusing or funny?
 
2013-04-08 09:02:28 PM  

skullkrusher: I think I'm just gonna let you post, Cam. I can't possibly shame you more than you can shame you.


To shame me first of all I'd have to be wrong. See ya!
 
2013-04-08 09:02:53 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: maxalt: tenpoundsofcheese: maxalt: James!: maxalt: Try passing a 9th grade passing test to graduate

I'm sure your son had a tip-top education.

Yes my son is now a private contractor making a lot more than you do I suspect. Why do you worry about what some one else makes? I guy long ago taught me " I don't care if the other guy makes more money than I do, I just want to make more money than I do". Work and you will, one day, if you work HARD, be one of the people how makes too much money. I have a life long friend who started in the music business in the late 1960's. He was starving, he would come and eat at my house, sleep in the basement, I would make his car payment, but he kept on and on struggling in the music business. Now he manages BIG time bands, , he worked his whole life hard to be where he is, he probably makes more in a year than you will make in your life time. Should all his work in freezing clubs in Michigan, days without food, sleeping in his car in the winter in Michigan, belong to someone else? He didn't earn that? Your jealously is just sickening, go out and try, if you fail try again. Keep trying until you are successful. Then tell me you owe you success to someone else, or government

He didn't build that success.
If someone didn't build the car, he would have froze
And if someone didn't build the roads, no one would have built the car.
On the flip side, if there weren't that many cars, there would be no global warming  eh cooling  eh climate change and Michigan would be a lot warmer so he wouldn't need a car to begin with.

Now THAT is how you insult someone, I give you a +5 on the scale of -5 to +5 you even brought the King of DC into the picture, and you did not attack me mindlessly. Well done well done! By the by Michigan has been warming for 10,000 years. 10,000 years ago it was covered in miles thick ice. Back in the 1960"s the teachers taught us we were all going to freeze in a 100 years or so, scared the mulch out of us 3 graders, just ...


I don't take it seriously but saying you didn't build that is funny maybe insult is too strong a word, how about pulling my chain?
 
2013-04-08 09:03:08 PM  

cman: Diogenes: Republicans and/or conservatives were people who supported communalism for much of our history.  It's amazing how reviled the very idea has become.  It was during Reagan's days that they started to demonize it at every level.

And Democrats were the ones who defended slavery

People change. Idea's change. The political world we live in is much different than those days.


History hurts. Go read a book  and learn that Dems were rightwing and retardicans were left wing(Lincoln) and they swapped wings since then.

Now the retardicans are teetering off of the flat Earth and the ropes tied around the necks of the Dems are about to break.

/the Pedo Priests like your kids too much in the religious commune
 
2013-04-08 09:03:21 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: pretty sure that isn't what she meant, RedState but funny URL

http://www.redstate.com/2013/04/08/all-your-kids-are-belong-to-us/

Ancient memes are hilarious! Do a barrel roll!

it's not the meme that's funny. It's the reference of something that doesn't get mentioned anymore and that hasn't been beaten to death incessantly every day for the past 2 or 3 years. I understand you'd be unfamiliar with the concept ;)

It doesn't get mentioned anymore because it was beaten into the ground years ago. Now go post that Rick Astley guy. He's a riot!

actually, getting randomly Rick Rolled is funny again

You have to be the most laid back conservative I've ever seen.

And that's a good thing.


thank you, sir/madam
 
2013-04-08 09:04:24 PM  
skylabdown:

The commercial is the trolliest piece of trolling I've seen in a long time.

If so, it's a really foolish bit of trolling.  Gonna backfire hard.

"First Obama's comin' for our guns, now he's comin' for our KIDS!  Git the GUNS!"

That actually happened in 1852 when Massachusetts imposed compulsory education.  The militia was called out to one town to hold parents at gunpoint while their kids were marched off to school.  Elsewhere, a newly-built public schoolhouse was burnt down - with the schoolmaster in it.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:38 PM  

Cletus C.: Her message implies communities as a whole have not stepped up to support education for children who are not their own. Not true. Communities pass levies and bonds of all sorts. If it were only the parents voting yes on these measures none would pass.


I don't think her argument is that the community has done nothing to support children, I'm pretty sure it's that the community hasn't done enough. I know it's a lot to ask, but if you could just read the first line quoted in the article you'll see it contains the phrase "as much ... as we should".

And it's hard to argue that she's wrong, at least in certain contexts. How often do parents work to provide educational opportunities for children they didn't spawn? How often do non-parents work to provide educational opportunities for anyone at all? Have we designed the school day around the demands of effective education, or around the convenience of workday childcare? Etc., etc., etc.

Or in more general terms, what are we doing to end the 1500+ deaths every year attributed to mistreatment of children by their caretakers? Our society makes children -- particularly children below school age -- the almost exclusive responsibility of 1 or 2 adults, which is a terrible thing to do to both our children and their caretakers. We should work to ensure that every child gets a fair shake at life, regardless of their lineage, and that caretakers are supported in role of raising the next generation. That cannot happen so long as children are considered an extension of their parents, rather than people in and of their own right.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:48 PM  
If children belgoned to the community, parents would be concerned with getting their kids jobs. Parents would teach kids to be choosy about the families of their friends and lovers. Parents woud sicuss things like financial invesments and the importance of paying attention to social capital around where they live when they move away from home. Of my list, all I see most parents care about is jobs, which suggests they think their children have no futures. Parents seem to think children will be obedient chore drones at home and obnedient chore drones that belong to their immediate bosses when they move out. If they move out.
 
2013-04-08 09:08:24 PM  
Parents seem more than willing to agree with "children belong to the community" when the school year starts and they can dump them off on public school rather than pay out-of-pocket for daycare everyday.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:43 PM  

gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.


Public school system, when he went into the 11th grade he already had passed the tests to graduate high school, but he didn't feel like he wanted to go to college until he was 17. In the first 2 months of school he was attacked by a guy in the court yard. Part of his schooling from me was self defense. He hurt the bully and got kicked out of school, he and I went camping, so all was well that ended well. By the way it is not possible for you to lose 10 IQ points as all IQ tests are always measured in the positive.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:47 PM  

skullkrusher: what does Usher have to do with anything?


You're mistaken. That's not Usher. Usher's career is dead. But Usher is still alive.

That's definitely Steve Urkel.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:39 PM  

Huggermugger: maxalt: Why is it that always when some one sees something that says government isn't the be all end all they go crazy? My son was MY RESPONSIBILITY, I do not want someone who was indoctrinated by the state ie teachers telling me how to raise my children. So you take the most brain dead path, what about child abuse?  Child abuse is already illegal and is punishable by up to life in jail. My son is well adjusted and smart has a well paying job and independent. He only spent the last two years of high school in public abuse buildings. The public schools do not teach ANYTHING!!! They teach "feel good". When over 50% of inner city school kids cannot read at a 2nd grade level when they graduate high school you people want more of public education? I had my son doing algebra when he was in the 3rd grade. Take responsibility and work hard to raise you child to be ready to face the world. Leave the government out of the picture, just because someone works for the government does NOT make them an angel or smart, just someone who failed at all else. My parents who were both teachers used to say "Those who can do, those who can't teach". And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.

If it wasn't for liberal do-gooders, child abuse would not be illegal.


That is not true.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:47 PM  

lasercannon: Majick Thise: Can I sue my community for child support?

Depends on how slutty your wife was.


You probably farked her, but she won't remember it
 
2013-04-08 09:10:53 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Parents seem more than willing to agree with "children belong to the community" when the school year starts and they can dump them off on public school rather than pay out-of-pocket for daycare everyday.


by "dump them off on public school " you mean "bring them to the school that they pay for with their tax dollars because it is illegal not send your kids to school" presumably?
 
2013-04-08 09:11:23 PM  
And here we have what Fark Mods would consider a perfect thread; shiat on beyond belief by troll accounts.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:29 PM  

skozlaw: skullkrusher: what does Usher have to do with anything?

You're mistaken. That's not Usher. Usher's career is dead. But Usher is still alive.

That's definitely Steve Urkel.


I just saw Usher on the Voice I'll have you kno... oh, point taken
 
2013-04-08 09:12:11 PM  

maxalt: gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.

Public school system, when he went into the 11th grade he already had passed the tests to graduate high school, but he didn't feel like he wanted to go to college until he was 17. In the first 2 months of school he was attacked by a guy in the court yard. Part of his schooling from me was self defense. He hurt the bully and got kicked out of school, he and I went camping, so all was well that ended well. By the way it is not possible for you to lose 10 IQ points as all IQ tests are always measured in the positive.


Some Maxalt would come in handy after reading that abortion of post.

/Google what Maxalt is
 
2013-04-08 09:13:24 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: And here we have what Fark Mods would consider a perfect thread; shiat on beyond belief by troll accounts.


This was never a good thread. The topic was incredibly stupid.

We might as well have just posted pictures of ponies, it's just as productive.
 
2013-04-08 09:13:33 PM  

Almost Everybody Poops: However, they did teach us to be tolerant of others views, so that's what they might be afraid of.


Indeed. That entire concept is anathema to conservatives.


And before some threadshiatter makes a smartass comment, tolerance does not extend to intolerance. I reserve the right to hate haters.
 
2013-04-08 09:13:48 PM  

maxalt:  Try passing a 9th grade passing test to graduate to high school from the 1880's. The tests are available on the internet. Then rate youself as to education.


maxalt: Except those of us who are successful don't to troll, we say what we know to be true.


Do you meanthis purported  9th grade test from 1895 that was debunked as fake?

Keep telling us what you know is true....
 
2013-04-08 09:16:21 PM  

TsukasaK: Almost Everybody Poops: However, they did teach us to be tolerant of others views, so that's what they might be afraid of.

Indeed. That entire concept is anathema to conservatives.


And before some threadshiatter makes a smartass comment, tolerance does not extend to intolerance. I reserve the right to hate haters.


I remember when you were a right wing troll who said stupid shiat from the right and then you kinda slipped away for a little bit and now you're back saying stupid shiat from the left. At least have the decency to change names, brah.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:49 PM  
Wow, I thought the Freepers were unbearable. The comments on that site...

People who write copy for these PSAs need to dumb them WAY down so that these people can follow along.
 
2013-04-08 09:17:11 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Satanic_Hamster: And here we have what Fark Mods would consider a perfect thread; shiat on beyond belief by troll accounts.

This was never a good thread. The topic was incredibly stupid.

We might as well have just posted pictures of ponies, it's just as productive.


Oh now you've gone and done it.
 
2013-04-08 09:23:17 PM  

indylaw: Children aren't property. However, as a general rule, it's the prerogative of parents themselves and not the nosy biatch down the street to raise children.


yes, but that nosy biatch down the road has some stake in your child's ability to become a productive member of society.
(your neighbors more than their neighbors -- but everyone gains a little)
 
2013-04-08 09:23:28 PM  
Login:maxalt678742002-12-30 16:12:06
Is this some sleeper account that was just waiting for the signal?
 
2013-04-08 09:23:47 PM  

lostcat: Wow, I thought the Freepers were unbearable. The comments on that site...

People who write copy for these PSAs need to dumb them WAY down so that these people can follow along.


They've got to understand that these are simple farmers? People of the land? The common clay of the New West?
 
2013-04-08 09:27:16 PM  

skullkrusher: I remember when you were a right wing troll who said stupid shiat from the right


Uhh.. yeah, you're going to need to link me to what the sweet holy fark you're talking about. I'm pretty much straight liberal (maybe libertarian on a few things) and always have been.

But hey, can't refute anything, just resort to calling it "stupid shiat" and accuse the person of impropriety.

F*cking 'cons.
 
2013-04-08 09:29:33 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Mrtraveler01: Satanic_Hamster: And here we have what Fark Mods would consider a perfect thread; shiat on beyond belief by troll accounts.

This was never a good thread. The topic was incredibly stupid.

We might as well have just posted pictures of ponies, it's just as productive.

Oh now you've gone and done it.


fark yeah.
i58.photobucket.com
 
2013-04-08 09:30:06 PM  

keithgabryelski: indylaw: Children aren't property. However, as a general rule, it's the prerogative of parents themselves and not the nosy biatch down the street to raise children.

yes, but that nosy biatch down the road has some stake in your child's ability to become a productive member of society.
(your neighbors more than their neighbors -- but everyone gains a little)


Her stake is satisfied by the educational taxes she pays and her ability to elect school board members.
 
2013-04-08 09:30:51 PM  

Flappyhead: Login:maxalt678742002-12-30 16:12:06
Is this some sleeper account that was just waiting for the signal?


Possible.  I've also suspected that the mods have the ability/are allowed to reset/rename/clear ignorelists and player notes of old accounts to make them appear new and/or backdate new troll accounts.
 
2013-04-08 09:32:06 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: lostcat: Wow, I thought the Freepers were unbearable. The comments on that site...

People who write copy for these PSAs need to dumb them WAY down so that these people can follow along.

They've got to understand that these are simple farmers? People of the land? The common clay of the New West?


Oh, please.  "Belong to" was an incredibly stupid choice of words; only "are property of" could have been worse.
 
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