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2013-04-08 06:59:13 PM

gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.


I think putting "MSNBC" in the headline is like ringing the troll dinner bell.
 
2013-04-08 07:04:29 PM
isn't this the site that said "fark your reality I want to live in mine go away libs" if so then this is truly the greatest site on the internet and you libs should all bookmark it and visit it daily so you can be re-educated into being intelligent
 
2013-04-08 07:04:41 PM

Lando Lincoln: Type_Hard: Didn't this same reaction happen after Hillary published "It Takes a Village"?

Yeah, pretty much. Most homeschoolers / religious nutjobs are horrified at the thought of someone teaching their kids something that they don't approve of.


Social conservatism is the fear that someone, somewhere, is teaching your children to be smarter than you.
 
2013-04-08 07:05:00 PM

gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.


The good news is you can get those points back by watching Southpark.
 
IP
2013-04-08 07:06:18 PM

gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.

 
2013-04-08 07:07:29 PM
Maybe 15-20 years ago this could be true.

Now, however, there are too many whack jobs who believe that spanking your child, leaving them outside unattended for an hour in your back yard, or letting them play dodge ball is poor parenting/child rearing.

Unfortunately, you can't trust your kid in the hands of the general public anymore without legal issues.
 
2013-04-08 07:08:06 PM
So...if the Government owns all the children......then let them birth the child as well....and save women the agony
 
2013-04-08 07:08:30 PM
See, if you think it's bad reading it on the blog here, you should try listening to him do it on the radio show.  Which he was just doing about 10-20 minutes ago (just got home) on my ride home.

Plays clip of her making a generic feel-good statement about how communities need to care more about each other kids.  Which makes sense, based on sociology and criminology, because the kids your neighbors raise become the adults your kids will have to deal with.  So you're helping your kids by making sure that everyone around you is getting the best education and that your neighbor has someone who'll stop his kid from getting into trouble and such.

Right after the clip, within seconds, he's going on about how she "REALLY" means that she wants your kids to be federal government property.  He'd been selling it for about an hour as "MHP supports bringing back slavery" and such.  And now he was taking her rather bland statement and turning it into "DER DAMN GUBMINT GON TAKE YER KIDZ."  So glad I got home shortly after, or I might've gone into a coma from the pure rays of stupidity coming out of the radio.
 
2013-04-08 07:09:26 PM
Why not just outsource child-rearing to Bangladesh?
 
2013-04-08 07:12:06 PM
She's full of shiat in a more general way, rather than something deep and philosophical. Her message implies communities as a whole have not stepped up to support education for children who are not their own. Not true. Communities pass levies and bonds of all sorts. If it were only the parents voting yes on these measures none would pass.

Mostly, people recognize the need for education funding from the local level and vote accordingly. There might be some exceptions but it is not the blind spot in the American conscience she seems to be indicating, and never was.

To the other side of the argument, I don't want my stamp on that train wreck of a child you're raising. Give the little demon another trophy, medal or ribbon somewhere else. Off my lawn.
 
2013-04-08 07:15:05 PM
This is an outrage, time for another rally!

www.charlock.org
 
2013-04-08 07:15:15 PM
Erik Erikson the man who makes Rush appear fair and balanced.
 
2013-04-08 07:17:44 PM

falcon176: isn't this the site that said "fark your reality I want to live in mine go away libs" if so then this is truly the greatest site on the internet and you libs should all bookmark it and visit it daily so you can be re-educated into being intelligent


You are adorable. How you escaped my attention all these years is truly a mystery.
 
2013-04-08 07:20:40 PM
I am so tired of the right making false dichotomy arguments.

If you think the world only has two options of extremes, you are an idiot.
 
2013-04-08 07:22:39 PM

Tom_Slick: Erick Erikson the man who makes Rush appear fair and balanced.


And exponentially less creepy.  I always have the sneaking suspicion that Erikson has a rape dungeon in his basement.
Either that or he's actually Harold from The Stand.
 
2013-04-08 07:28:39 PM
If the writer had watched her show instead of a promo he probably could have found something real to be pissy about.
 
2013-04-08 07:34:53 PM

kukukupo: Now, however, there are too many whack jobs who believe that spanking your child, leaving them outside unattended for an hour in your back yard, or letting them play dodge ball is poor parenting/child rearing.


Why does it make you a "whack job" to think that physically striking someone is a bad thing to do?
 
2013-04-08 07:36:42 PM
So how do they feel about draft cards?
 
2013-04-08 07:37:02 PM
Children aren't property. However, as a general rule, it's the prerogative of parents themselves and not the nosy biatch down the street to raise children.
 
2013-04-08 07:42:17 PM

indylaw: Children aren't property. However, as a general rule, it's the prerogative of parents themselves and not the nosy biatch down the street to raise children.


No one is suggesting otherwise.

MHP was making an obvious reference to the idea that a solid public education system is essential to a functioning progressive modern society.

For some reason, this fairly innocuous idea causes epic frothing from our friends on the right.
 
2013-04-08 07:42:32 PM
When I read threads like this one on Fark I can't help but wonder what meetings at work would be like if everyone was as free to express the moronic ignorance.
 
2013-04-08 07:42:43 PM
I can't tell if  maxalt is genuine or not.  For one his handle frickin' maxALT, but that could all be part of his Poe's Law attempt at confusing people.
 
2013-04-08 07:43:48 PM
So kiddo, you think you own that business you started, that little lemonade stand on the corner?

Scratch that...you think you own that body you occupy right now? Oh really?

Sure, you made it from scratch, but someone else had to help you out to get it started.
And who grew the food you ate all your life? Who regulated the food producers, to ensure it was safe and nutritious?
Who built and regulated the roads, so that food could get to market, and land on your dinner table?
And who took care of that body you when it got sick? Who regulated the healthcare industry, and subsidized student loans so that doctors could get trained?
Who defended your body from physical harm, when imaginary brown people, pissed-off by years of US foreign policy, came to blow it up?
And so on, and so on, and so on.

Just so you know the score, you own nothing, not even yourself. "We" own everything.

AND WE OWN YOUR ASS.
 
2013-04-08 07:44:13 PM

Corvus: I am so tired of the right making false dichotomy arguments.

If you think the world only has two options of extremes, you are an idiot.


So it's only the right that makes false dichotomy arguments?
 
2013-04-08 07:44:15 PM

Tom_Slick: Erik Erikson the man who makes Rush appear fair and balanced.


Eh, listening to him is weird.  Because sometimes he has these flashes of reality and he'll attack Republican derp very strongly.  And then the next day it's back to "herp the derp herp derp herp".
 
2013-04-08 07:45:48 PM

Tom_Slick: Erik Erikson the man who makes Rush appear fair and balanced.


I dunno. I'll bet he's pretty balanced. At least when he's sitting down. All that fat probably falls to the bottom and creates a sturdy base. He's like a huge weeble stuffed with hate and oreo cream pies.

And he's white as a damn ghost.
 
2013-04-08 07:46:13 PM
Anyone saying something like that is NOT a mother...PERIOD!

Also:  "MSNBC:  We are the Borg.  Resistance is futile.  You now belong to us."
 
2013-04-08 07:47:24 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: If the writer had watched her show instead of a promo he probably could have found something real to be pissy about.


The writer is Erick Erickson, the guy is off the derp deep end, he actually thinks that gay marriage will lead to more people on welfare  and higher taxes.  Seriously this guy makes Rush look liberal and Hannity seem sane.
 
2013-04-08 07:49:15 PM

maxalt: Why is it that always when some one sees something that says government isn't the be all end all they go crazy? My son was MY RESPONSIBILITY, I do not want someone who was indoctrinated by the state ie teachers telling me how to raise my children. So you take the most brain dead path, what about child abuse?  Child abuse is already illegal and is punishable by up to life in jail. My son is well adjusted and smart has a well paying job and independent. He only spent the last two years of high school in public abuse buildings. The public schools do not teach ANYTHING!!! They teach "feel good". When over 50% of inner city school kids cannot read at a 2nd grade level when they graduate high school you people want more of public education? I had my son doing algebra when he was in the 3rd grade. Take responsibility and work hard to raise you child to be ready to face the world. Leave the government out of the picture, just because someone works for the government does NOT make them an angel or smart, just someone who failed at all else. My parents who were both teachers used to say "Those who can do, those who can't teach". And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.


^^^AMEN!
 
2013-04-08 07:51:25 PM
The obvious problem is that since the government wants to take your guns as well as your kids they have NOT specified how they will make sure that the kids are not going to be playing with the guns.

Unless of course the government really doesn't care if they do...probably because they are buying up all the ammo.
 
2013-04-08 07:52:02 PM

maxalt: My parents who were both teachers used to say "Those who can do, those who can't teach". And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.


The same ones that were part of the teachers union that admitted they were socialists or was it that they admitted they were communist?

/Hey, this thread is already derailed anyways, why not join in the destruction?
 
2013-04-08 07:52:42 PM

maxalt: And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.


You don't love them anymore?
Then why do you miss them?
 
2013-04-08 07:53:00 PM

Almost Everybody Poops: I can't tell if  maxalt is genuine or not.  For one his handle frickin' maxALT, but that could all be part of his Poe's Law attempt at confusing people.


Maxalt is also the brand name of a drug used to treat migraines.

/Take from that what you will
 
2013-04-08 07:53:39 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: The obvious problem is that since the government wants to take your guns as well as your kids they have NOT specified how they will make sure that the kids are not going to be playing with the guns.

Unless of course the government really doesn't care if they do...probably because they are buying up all the ammo.


This post lacks effort.
 
2013-04-08 07:57:12 PM

fusillade762: falcon176: isn't this the site that said "fark your reality I want to live in mine go away libs" if so then this is truly the greatest site on the internet and you libs should all bookmark it and visit it daily so you can be re-educated into being intelligent

You are adorable. How you escaped my attention all these years is truly a mystery.


i don't think "you are adorable" is the thing thoughtless people say to their deities anymore, check quickmeme and reddit for the update to your wit, or lack thereof
 
2013-04-08 07:59:58 PM

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: The obvious problem is that since the government wants to take your guns as well as your kids they have NOT specified how they will make sure that the kids are not going to be playing with the guns.

Unless of course the government really doesn't care if they do...probably because they are buying up all the ammo.

This post lacks effort.


Yes, what you posted did lack effort.  How self-aware you are.  Next time it is easier if you just don't post if you already understand that you post lacks effort.
 
2013-04-08 08:00:06 PM

Lawyers With Nukes: So kiddo, you think you own that business you started, that little lemonade stand on the corner?

Scratch that...you think you own that body you occupy right now? Oh really?

Sure, you made it from scratch, but someone else had to help you out to get it started.
And who grew the food you ate all your life? Who regulated the food producers, to ensure it was safe and nutritious?
Who built and regulated the roads, so that food could get to market, and land on your dinner table?
And who took care of that body you when it got sick? Who regulated the healthcare industry, and subsidized student loans so that doctors could get trained?
Who defended your body from physical harm, when imaginary brown people, pissed-off by years of US foreign policy, came to blow it up?
And so on, and so on, and so on.

Just so you know the score, you own nothing, not even yourself. "We" own everything.

AND WE OWN YOUR ASS.


Yep, that sounds about right for liberals.
 
2013-04-08 08:03:09 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: The obvious problem is that since the government wants to take your guns as well as your kids they have NOT specified how they will make sure that the kids are not going to be playing with the guns.

Unless of course the government really doesn't care if they do...probably because they are buying up all the ammo.

This post lacks effort.

Yes, what you posted did lack effort.  How self-aware you are.  Next time it is easier if you just don't post if you already understand that you post lacks effort.


You call that an insult?
 
2013-04-08 08:04:35 PM

glassa: Lawyers With Nukes: So kiddo, you think you own that business you started, that little lemonade stand on the corner?

Scratch that...you think you own that body you occupy right now? Oh really?

Sure, you made it from scratch, but someone else had to help you out to get it started.
And who grew the food you ate all your life? Who regulated the food producers, to ensure it was safe and nutritious?
Who built and regulated the roads, so that food could get to market, and land on your dinner table?
And who took care of that body you when it got sick? Who regulated the healthcare industry, and subsidized student loans so that doctors could get trained?
Who defended your body from physical harm, when imaginary brown people, pissed-off by years of US foreign policy, came to blow it up?
And so on, and so on, and so on.

Just so you know the score, you own nothing, not even yourself. "We" own everything.

AND WE OWN YOUR ASS.

Yep, that sounds about right for liberals.


You guys realize that no man is an island right?

I think that was the point it was trying to make. But of course the people at Redstate aren't known for intelligence and can't pick up on things like that.
 
2013-04-08 08:04:43 PM

maxalt: Yes my son is now a private contractor making a lot more than you do I suspect. Why do you worry about what some one else makes? I guy long ago taught me " I don't care if the other guy makes more money than I do, I just want to make more money than I do". Work and you will, one day, if you work HARD, be one of the people how makes too much money. I have a life long friend who started in the music business in the late 1960's. He was starving, he would come and eat at my house, sleep in the basement, I would make his car payment, but he kept on and on struggling in the music business. Now he manages BIG time bands, , he worked his whole life hard to be where he is, he probably makes more in a year than you will make in your life time. Should all his work in freezing clubs in Michigan, days without food, sleeping in his car in the winter in Michigan, belong to someone else? He didn't earn that? Your jealously is just sickening, go out and try, if you fail try again. Keep trying until you are successful. Then tell me you owe you success to someone else, or government



I give up, what's the theme? 80s sitcoms? Arnold Schwarzenegger movies?
 
2013-04-08 08:04:51 PM

maxalt: Why is it that always when some one sees something that says government isn't the be all end all they go crazy? My son was MY RESPONSIBILITY, I do not want someone who was indoctrinated by the state ie teachers telling me how to raise my children. So you take the most brain dead path, what about child abuse?  Child abuse is already illegal and is punishable by up to life in jail. My son is well adjusted and smart has a well paying job and independent. He only spent the last two years of high school in public abuse buildings. The public schools do not teach ANYTHING!!! They teach "feel good". When over 50% of inner city school kids cannot read at a 2nd grade level when they graduate high school you people want more of public education? I had my son doing algebra when he was in the 3rd grade. Take responsibility and work hard to raise you child to be ready to face the world. Leave the government out of the picture, just because someone works for the government does NOT make them an angel or smart, just someone who failed at all else. My parents who were both teachers used to say "Those who can do, those who can't teach". And yes I truly loved my parents and miss them every day.


I'm confused.  Your parents were teachers, indicating they were "indoctrinated by the state," and they were people that "couldn't."

Do you possibly think that inner city school kids have such a rough time because their parents don't give a damn?  Teachers can only do so much.  It's up to the kid to apply themselves and actually learn what they've been taught, and it's up to parents to push them along in the right direction.  Public school has its faults to be sure, but I learned quite a bit.  Math and computing interested me, so I pushed myself in those courses.  English never interested me, but I make do.  I am spell well and grammar good.
 
2013-04-08 08:05:45 PM

Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: Mrtraveler01: tenpoundsofcheese: The obvious problem is that since the government wants to take your guns as well as your kids they have NOT specified how they will make sure that the kids are not going to be playing with the guns.

Unless of course the government really doesn't care if they do...probably because they are buying up all the ammo.

This post lacks effort.

Yes, what you posted did lack effort.  How self-aware you are.  Next time it is easier if you just don't post if you already understand that you post lacks effort.

You call that an insult?


I'm not sure if he's overworked or drinking more, or both, but I'm genuinely starting to worry about him.
 
2013-04-08 08:06:01 PM
We're all in this together alone.
 
2013-04-08 08:06:14 PM
I think the problem arose from her use of the phrase "belong to."
 
2013-04-08 08:07:13 PM

glassa: Lawyers With Nukes: So kiddo, you think you own that business you started, that little lemonade stand on the corner?

Scratch that...you think you own that body you occupy right now? Oh really?

Sure, you made it from scratch, but someone else had to help you out to get it started.
And who grew the food you ate all your life? Who regulated the food producers, to ensure it was safe and nutritious?
Who built and regulated the roads, so that food could get to market, and land on your dinner table?
And who took care of that body you when it got sick? Who regulated the healthcare industry, and subsidized student loans so that doctors could get trained?
Who defended your body from physical harm, when imaginary brown people, pissed-off by years of US foreign policy, came to blow it up?
And so on, and so on, and so on.

Just so you know the score, you own nothing, not even yourself. "We" own everything.

AND WE OWN YOUR ASS.

Yep, that sounds about right for liberals.


What the hell is with the Derp Squadron lately?  We expect lame, but this is an insult to lame.  If you guys aren't feeling up to it, maybe you should take a break and recharge those batteries.
 
2013-04-08 08:07:28 PM

AliceBToklasLives: Corvus: I am so tired of the right making false dichotomy arguments.

If you think the world only has two options of extremes, you are an idiot.

So it's only the right that makes false dichotomy arguments?


They're certainly less tolerant of ambiguity than the left is. It's one of their defining features.
 
2013-04-08 08:07:34 PM

gilgigamesh: Jesus Christ, I just lost about 10 IQ points reading this thread.


It was for your own good. Stop over thinking things.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:36 PM
So is there an intelligent argument on why I should be outraged about this?
 
2013-04-08 08:08:37 PM

Lionel Mandrake: What the hell is with the Derp Squadron lately?  We expect lame, but this is an insult to lame.  If you guys aren't feeling up to it, maybe you should take a break and recharge those batteries.


I feel ya. This sh*t is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off the rails.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:12 PM

Lionel Mandrake: glassa: Lawyers With Nukes: So kiddo, you think you own that business you started, that little lemonade stand on the corner?

Scratch that...you think you own that body you occupy right now? Oh really?

Sure, you made it from scratch, but someone else had to help you out to get it started.
And who grew the food you ate all your life? Who regulated the food producers, to ensure it was safe and nutritious?
Who built and regulated the roads, so that food could get to market, and land on your dinner table?
And who took care of that body you when it got sick? Who regulated the healthcare industry, and subsidized student loans so that doctors could get trained?
Who defended your body from physical harm, when imaginary brown people, pissed-off by years of US foreign policy, came to blow it up?
And so on, and so on, and so on.

Just so you know the score, you own nothing, not even yourself. "We" own everything.

AND WE OWN YOUR ASS.

Yep, that sounds about right for liberals.

What the hell is with the Derp Squadron lately?  We expect lame, but this is an insult to lame.  If you guys aren't feeling up to it, maybe you should take a break and recharge those batteries.


Still hungover from NOLA I suppose.
 
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