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(Fox News)   The US Navy has developed a real, honest-to-God laser gun, mounted it on a ship, and is about to begin live-testing it with the Fifth Fleet. Next step: sharks   (foxnews.com ) divider line
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2013-04-08 06:48:20 PM  
"It operates much like a blowtorch ... with an unlimited magazine," one official said.
I'd like to meet this "official". I'm selling stock in my perpetual motion machine company.

He means that you're not limited to a discrete number of ammo rounds like you are with guns/missiles. As long as the ship has fuel, it can generate power for many laser shots until ship's fuel runs out.

We're working on electric ship technology that features multiple power generators scattered around the ship, electric propulsion, electric catapults, electric weapons, and switching technologies for routing power between propulsion and weapons as needed. I like working for the Navy. We do cool stuff.

/except Thursday.
//Spent Thursday curled up on a cargo pallet in the Helo hangar on the USS Ft. Worth with a nasty cold while the ship ripped along at 40 kts doing steep turns.
//got up only to do my test events
 
2013-04-08 06:48:22 PM  

meat0918: The US stopped using them in the 70s, but didn't actually ban them by treaty until 2008.


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-08 06:48:38 PM  
Hurr. Whar my second amendment right to own civilian model?
/I only want it to hunt deer with, really.
//cook 'em on the hoof.
///Slashies for the military budget that is hurting so bad it brings us this.
 
2013-04-08 06:48:47 PM  
I for one am glad to see that my small contribution to our $700 billion/yr defence budget is bearing fruition in next generation military weaponry!
Imagine if we increase our defence budget to $1 trillion/yr we will have X-Wing class fighter after the Raptors.
 
2013-04-08 06:48:52 PM  

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.

O RLY?

[media.defenceindustrydaily.com image 800x570]


I'd have to agree with you there. With lasers all you have to do is make the missile spin and distribute the energy from the laser evenly over the surface, which would significantly reduce the likelihood of it being shot down, whereas a bullet from that thing will dot he job, spinning missile or no.
 
2013-04-08 06:49:42 PM  
www.lolsaints.com
 
2013-04-08 06:51:05 PM  

Rhino_man: One more point about the Ponce: It has THE VIETNMAN CAMPAIGN RIBBON ON ITS AWARDS RACK. Also, the mess decks are tiny, and smell like rancid fish half the time... even on days when they don't serve fish.

OK, so that was two more points.

Why yes, I *have* served aboard that pile of shiat, why do you ask?


Fellow proud lion here. I was surprised to learn it was still floating let alone capable of being the test ship for this new system.
 
2013-04-08 06:51:20 PM  
Now they just need a really big cat to tease.
 
2013-04-08 06:51:40 PM  

Running a-puck: This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.


Or over the horizon which NEVER happens in modern warfare either!
 
2013-04-08 06:52:19 PM  
"FIRE PHASERS!"
"Um, sir. It's a laser, not a phaser."
"WHATEVER!"
 
2013-04-08 06:52:54 PM  

Turbo Cojones: Running a-puck: This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

Or over the horizon which NEVER happens in modern warfare either!


That's what the rail gun is for, these are point defense weapons
 
2013-04-08 06:53:27 PM  

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.

O RLY?

[media.defenceindustrydaily.com image 800x570]


R2 never breaks!
 
2013-04-08 06:53:32 PM  

Rhino_man: On the PONCE? Seriously, Navy? You're going to put it on the oldest, shiattiest gator in service? The rest of its class was dismantled or sold to Spain YEARS ago. Its decommissioning has been postponed THREE TIMES. It doesn't have dedicated berthing spaces, PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE P-WAYS!

WTF, Navy? WTF are you thinking?


its on the
USS Dewey - DDG 105
either you cant read, or someone corrected a typo.
 
2013-04-08 06:54:26 PM  

Scott_Free: mpopowich: Yay!  Popcorn for everyone!

It goes from God, to Jerry, to the Navy.


<img src="http://i.imgur.com/pyc3Bw3.jpg">
"Look, it was hot and I was hungry, okay?"
 
2013-04-08 06:55:02 PM  

grokca: Finally we can get CHA written on the moon.


We all know where THAT leads. We try to fix it, some dude takes a bite...
 
2013-04-08 06:55:39 PM  
But do they have it in the 40 watt range?

/Hey, just what you see, pal!
 
Rie
2013-04-08 06:56:01 PM  
"Navy to deploys lasers"

Excellent proof-reading there, Fox.
 
2013-04-08 06:56:08 PM  
Guess I'll try again

i.imgur.com
"Look, it was hot and I was hungry, okay?"
 
2013-04-08 06:56:33 PM  

Running a-puck: This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.


dont forget how rain makes the steal bombers totally visible and makes them ineffective.   And GPS bombs.. easily totally defeatable
 
2013-04-08 06:57:24 PM  

angrymacface: "FIRE PHASERS!"
"Um, sir. It's a laser, not a phaser."
"WHATEVER!"


"SET LASERS ON BURN!"
 
2013-04-08 06:57:49 PM  
The dirty secret of lasers is the effect on personnel. At longer ranges these powerful lasers can permanently blind people. The horrors of war are to include a weapon that can cause wholesale blindness among soldiers and affected noncombatants.
I felt the article was avoiding this issue with this quote "of obliterating small boats and unmanned aerial vehicles."  Sooner or later, blinding is going to be a major issue with these weapons.
 
2013-04-08 06:57:51 PM  
Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.

O RLY?

[media.defenceindustrydaily.com image 800x570]


R2 never breaks!

Actually the fleet used to say CIWS stood for "Christ It Won't Shoot!"

/Jesus Christ this text editor is farked up!
 
2013-04-08 06:58:01 PM  

Aarontology: Because we have all this extra money just laying around.


There is nothing wrong with spending money to make something.  What is worthless is handing money out to do nothing.  That's good for getting votes, I guess.
 
2013-04-08 07:00:00 PM  

meat0918: I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.


This is another one of those things. One of those "war crimes."

If you're going to ban the use of chemical weapons, hollowpoints, and flame throwers, why fark around? Ban the use of rifles and grenades. Ban bombs. Just make war illegal.
 
2013-04-08 07:01:37 PM  

ProudBoiler: Rhino_man: One more point about the Ponce: It has THE VIETNMAN CAMPAIGN RIBBON ON ITS AWARDS RACK. Also, the mess decks are tiny, and smell like rancid fish half the time... even on days when they don't serve fish.

OK, so that was two more points.

Why yes, I *have* served aboard that pile of shiat, why do you ask?

Fellow proud lion here. I was surprised to learn it was still floating let alone capable of being the test ship for this new system.


Well, I suspect that they are going to have to rip the crud out of the interior spaces to add in more generators and a giant capacitor bank, so probably an old ship is best for a test bed since they are going to wreck it. Next time they build one they will know what to plan for, but now they don't exactly.
 
2013-04-08 07:06:34 PM  
Will cuomo pass a ban on me owning an assault laser rifle?
 
2013-04-08 07:07:46 PM  
That pic makes it look like they blasted a Star Destroyer.
 
2013-04-08 07:09:35 PM  

Yogimus: Laser light is all the same wavelength, so the diffraction is minimal, and equal across the beam. the light does not bend when crossing from water to air/air into water


Sure it does. There won't be much of a beam-spreading prism-like effect, but it will still refract.
 
2013-04-08 07:11:40 PM  

jigger: This is another one of those things. One of those "war crimes."

If you're going to ban the use of chemical weapons, hollowpoints, and flame throwers, why fark around? Ban the use of rifles and grenades. Ban bombs. Just make war illegal.


Insert joke about war free zones here.

Personally, I think it'd be farking awesome if wars were decided by gigantic paintball matches.
 
2013-04-08 07:14:04 PM  

mark12A: We're working on electric ship technology that features multiple power generators scattered around the ship, electric propulsion, electric catapults, electric weapons, and switching technologies for routing power between propulsion and weapons as needed. I like working for the Navy. We do cool stuff.


We're also building new nuclear powered ships to generate 4 times they need to run every bit of electrical equipment on the current ones, in anticipation of shiat like this. So yeah- pretty much unlimited.

angrymacface: "FIRE PHASERS!"
"Um, sir. It's a laser, not a phaser."
"WHATEVER!"


Hmm- a college degree makes me eligible to be an officer, right?
 
2013-04-08 07:14:21 PM  

KarmicDisaster: ProudBoiler: Rhino_man: One more point about the Ponce: It has THE VIETNMAN CAMPAIGN RIBBON ON ITS AWARDS RACK. Also, the mess decks are tiny, and smell like rancid fish half the time... even on days when they don't serve fish.

OK, so that was two more points.

Why yes, I *have* served aboard that pile of shiat, why do you ask?

Fellow proud lion here. I was surprised to learn it was still floating let alone capable of being the test ship for this new system.

Well, I suspect that they are going to have to rip the crud out of the interior spaces to add in more generators and a giant capacitor bank, so probably an old ship is best for a test bed since they are going to wreck it. Next time they build one they will know what to plan for, but now they don't exactly.


The Ponce has been retrofitted to serve as an afloat forward operating base in the Persian Gulf, where it will be in the crosshairs of all kinds of Iranian cruise missiles if things go bad there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Ponce_(LPD-15)#Afloat_Forward_Stagi ng _Base.2C_Interim_.28AFSB-I.29

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-01-27/world/35441366_1_somal i- pirates-mothership-commando
 
2013-04-08 07:14:57 PM  

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.

O RLY?

[media.defenceindustrydaily.com image 800x570]


I don't know, it did rather poorly against those porcupine aliens in Hawaii
 
2013-04-08 07:15:21 PM  

Running a-puck: This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.


LUDDITE!

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.

O RLY?

[media.defenceindustrydaily.com image 800x570]


LUDDITE! (Uh oh, your guns are threatened!)

lordargent: It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.


But of course. This is why industrial cutting lasers work from across the room and not, say, 0.1mm from the surface with super powerful vacuum around it. It's not like the material being vaporized creates a cloud in front of the laser, which has been finely tuned to be absorbed by the material in question.

Speaking of finely tuned, anyone follow the pork on this?
 
2013-04-08 07:16:29 PM  

utah dude: whycome not korea?


Damn, beat me to it.
 
2013-04-08 07:17:24 PM  
First of all, you don't "burn" mist. The problem with lasers is that they are light and are subject to refraction and diffusion. More moisture = more dissipation of the beam. This also limits the effectiveness of lasers in ANY atmosphere (even a dry one) The effectiveness of this weapon over a distance will not be cost effective to achieve. A more reasonable development for energy weapons is in directed particle cannons that fundamentally turn the air into a superconductor and then electrify it, frying directional computers and possibly igniting warheads.

Think of the idea that missiles will become obsolete as directed energy defenses become the situational norm, their trump being magnetic rail sabots. Directed energy will be unlikely to stop a tungsten rod flung with little heat signature from miles and miles away.

Though, lasers would definitely be useful in space. Nothing's gonna help us if we start laser-shredding up eachother's satellites in orbit. Imagine a giant whirling hellstorm of fractured nearly forever in orbit that rips everything we send up there to ribbons, effectively blocking us from meaningful use of space. Freaky eh?
 
2013-04-08 07:17:25 PM  
Well, on the plus side, the Navy now has a superb tool for shooting down slow-moving drones inexpensively.

On the downside, the Navy just wasted god-only knows how much developing a weapon that only shoots down something nobody was ever using to attack them -- and it's planning to spend another US$32 million a pop on deploying it.
 
2013-04-08 07:18:22 PM  

cptjeff: Hmm- a college degree makes me eligible to be an officer, right?


It worked for FLYNAVY
 
2013-04-08 07:18:42 PM  

LordOfThePings: [www.lolsaints.com image 480x360]


Not sure why I laughed so hard at this.  But I did.
 
2013-04-08 07:19:32 PM  

Sanguine Dawn: Though, lasers would definitely be useful in space. Nothing's gonna help us if we start laser-shredding up eachother's satellites in orbit. Imagine a giant whirling hellstorm of fractured nearly forever in orbit that rips everything we send up there to ribbons, effectively blocking us from meaningful use of space. Freaky eh?


I think that's quantum apostrophes dream, us no longer poluttin space like that, and just staying on out little mudball
 
2013-04-08 07:21:25 PM  

loonatic112358: I think that's quantum apostrophes dream, us no longer poluttin space like that, and just staying on out little mudball


Oh no, our little mud ball! You retard.

Sanguine Dawn: Nothing's gonna help us if we start laser-shredding up eachother's satellites in orbit. Imagine a giant whirling hellstorm of fractured nearly forever in orbit that rips everything we send up there to ribbons, effectively blocking us from meaningful use of space. Freaky eh?


Put down the comic books, son.
 
2013-04-08 07:21:39 PM  
I thought the coolest part of the video was the fact we have flying wing drones.
 
2013-04-08 07:23:05 PM  

whither_apophis: I thought the coolest part of the video was the fact we have flying wing drones.


So do the French.

www.airforce-technology.com
 
2013-04-08 07:23:55 PM  

hardinparamedic: jigger: This is another one of those things. One of those "war crimes."

If you're going to ban the use of chemical weapons, hollowpoints, and flame throwers, why fark around? Ban the use of rifles and grenades. Ban bombs. Just make war illegal.

Insert joke about war free zones here.

Personally, I think it'd be farking awesome if wars were decided by gigantic paintball matches.


Then send the losers to the disintegration machines!
 
2013-04-08 07:24:09 PM  
Sanguine Dawn: Though, lasers would definitely be useful in space. Nothing's gonna help us if we start laser-shredding up eachother's satellites in orbit. Imagine a giant whirling hellstorm of fractured nearly forever in orbit that rips everything we send up there to ribbons, effectively blocking us from meaningful use of space. Freaky eh?

I think that's quantum apostrophes dream, us no longer poluttin space like that, and just staying on out little mudball


I think I got that idea from the RIFTS PnP RPG universe. I believe all the decayed junk in orbit after a series of apocalyptic, xenodimensional disasters rendered orbit and space inaccessible.
 
2013-04-08 07:24:43 PM  

gweilo8888: On the downside, the Navy just wasted god-only knows how much developing a weapon that only shoots down something nobody was ever using to attack them -- and it's planning to spend another US$32 million a pop on deploying it.


I think the article also mentioned its use against small boats, and it sounds like this would be useful against unmanned aerial vehicles and other slower moving aircraft.

Power requirements must be ungodly though, so I will be a little pessimistic until I can learn more than is mentioned in the article.
 
2013-04-08 07:24:51 PM  
d3gtl9l2a4fn1j.cloudfront.net
Do you have any idea what a laser like that could do?

global.fncstatic.com
Oh, you do? Okay then, carry on.
 
2013-04-08 07:24:56 PM  

Yogimus: Rhino_man: On the PONCE? Seriously, Navy? You're going to put it on the oldest, shiattiest gator in service? The rest of its class was dismantled or sold to Spain YEARS ago. Its decommissioning has been postponed THREE TIMES. It doesn't have dedicated berthing spaces, PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE P-WAYS!

WTF, Navy? WTF are you thinking?

If it goes boom, no loss


Or...when they provoke a small incident to "test" its effectiveness, should it fail and the ship be lost...well its one they wanted to get rid of anyways.
 
2013-04-08 07:26:12 PM  

Running a-puck: This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.


Yogimus: Good for air/missiles, not so much on ground based targets... damn you curvature of the earth!


That's what the 16/50's are for...
www.history.navy.mil

/for when something on the other side of the horizon has pissed you off...
 
2013-04-08 07:26:43 PM  

hardinparamedic: cptjeff: Hmm- a college degree makes me eligible to be an officer, right?

It worked for FLYNAVY


I actually just got professionally recommended for OCS with a bachelors last month, still waiting on a final selection letter.

Been wary of saying anything because of FLYNAVY, and also because I haven't done shiat yet.
 
2013-04-08 07:27:52 PM  

Theeng: hardinparamedic: cptjeff: Hmm- a college degree makes me eligible to be an officer, right?

It worked for FLYNAVY

I actually just got professionally recommended for OCS with a bachelors last month, still waiting on a final selection letter.

Been wary of saying anything because of FLYNAVY, and also because I haven't done shiat yet.


congratulations and good luck
 
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