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(Fox News)   The US Navy has developed a real, honest-to-God laser gun, mounted it on a ship, and is about to begin live-testing it with the Fifth Fleet. Next step: sharks   (foxnews.com) divider line 225
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2013-04-08 02:14:31 PM
Finally we can get CHA written on the moon.
 
2013-04-08 02:34:50 PM
This is fantastic!  Lasers work great.  Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.
 
2013-04-08 02:37:46 PM
Because we have all this extra money just laying around.
 
2013-04-08 03:13:31 PM
this isn't new. THEL/MTHEL has been around for a while, with some being mounted in planes. Although the official THEL program was killed a few years ago, some of the research lives on in other projects.

There are also lots of other laser based defense projects in various stages of research.
 
2013-04-08 03:40:36 PM
Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.
 
2013-04-08 05:42:46 PM
Old news. These guns were mounted on Arnold Schwarzenegger years ago.

i47.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-08 06:12:04 PM
whycome not korea?
 
2013-04-08 06:14:23 PM
I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.
 
2013-04-08 06:14:59 PM

FishyFred: Old news. These guns were mounted on Arnold Schwarzenegger years ago.


Schwarzenegger's lasers mounted Mildred Patricia Baena fifteen years ago.
 
2013-04-08 06:15:11 PM
Well, that ought to toast Jong-Un's biscuits.
 
2013-04-08 06:19:08 PM
Had em' in concept since the 80s, in practice since the 90s, and in play since the mid 2000s
 
2013-04-08 06:19:42 PM

FishyFred: Old news. These guns were mounted on Arnold Schwarzenegger years ago.

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point of order, those are coil guns.
 
2013-04-08 06:20:58 PM

meat0918: I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.


If only they'd get around to that pesky apostrophe. In its 484 years it's destroyed more sentences than flames ever did.
 
2013-04-08 06:21:35 PM

utah dude: FishyFred: Old news. These guns were mounted on Arnold Schwarzenegger years ago.

Schwarzenegger's lasers mounted Mildred Patricia Baena fifteen years ago.


OH SNAP!
 
2013-04-08 06:21:37 PM
But can it pop popcorn?
 
2013-04-08 06:23:08 PM
My cat will love this
 
2013-04-08 06:23:55 PM
Running a-puck: This is fantastic! Lasers work great. Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

With the amount of power they're talking about pumping, wouldn't it just burn through the mist.

It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

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2013-04-08 06:24:07 PM
Sharks? Come on, they won't put up much of a fight against a naval ship armed with a laser.
 
2013-04-08 06:25:17 PM
Good for air/missiles, not so much on ground based targets... damn you curvature of the earth!
 
2013-04-08 06:25:19 PM
Not impressed.

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2013-04-08 06:25:29 PM

lordargent: Running a-puck: This is fantastic! Lasers work great. Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

With the amount of power they're talking about pumping, wouldn't it just burn through the mist.

It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

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Oh sweet! I love Dragon Ball Z screenshots!
 
2013-04-08 06:26:10 PM

FishyFred: Old news. These guns were mounted on Arnold Schwarzenegger years ago.

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Those were gauss rifles / rail guns, you noob.
 
2013-04-08 06:26:23 PM

lordargent: It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.


I would think the problem would be refraction.  Lasers are still light.  I'd also wonder if heat haze interfered with lasers.
 
2013-04-08 06:27:32 PM
5th Fleet you say?

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2013-04-08 06:27:46 PM

Aarontology: Because we have all this extra money just laying around.


Yea, lets do nothing and just wait for the shiat to hit the fan.  Schadenfreude is so much more entertaining that way.
 
2013-04-08 06:28:05 PM

hardinparamedic: lordargent: Running a-puck: This is fantastic! Lasers work great. Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

With the amount of power they're talking about pumping, wouldn't it just burn through the mist.

It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x218]

Oh sweet! I love Dragon Ball Z screenshots!


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2013-04-08 06:28:22 PM

hardinparamedic: lordargent: Running a-puck: This is fantastic! Lasers work great. Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

With the amount of power they're talking about pumping, wouldn't it just burn through the mist.

It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x218]

Oh sweet! I love Dragon Ball Z screenshots!


5/10, you might catch someone unawares

/TETSUO!!!
//KANEDA!!!
 
2013-04-08 06:28:28 PM
"Soylent green is peoZZZZZZZZZTTZZZZZTTTTZZZZZZZZT!"........Mmmm, bacon!
 
2013-04-08 06:28:40 PM
Yay!  Popcorn for everyone!

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2013-04-08 06:30:25 PM

mpopowich: Yay!  Popcorn for everyone!


It goes from God, to Jerry, to the Navy.
 
2013-04-08 06:30:25 PM
"It operates much like a blowtorch ... with an unlimited magazine," one official said.
I'd like to meet this "official". I'm selling stock in my perpetual motion machine company.
 
2013-04-08 06:32:24 PM

Counter_Intelligent: lordargent: It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

I would think the problem would be refraction.  Lasers are still light.  I'd also wonder if heat haze interfered with lasers.




It will shorten the range, but the beams can be adjusted to overcome this.
Considering this is a close range weapon system, it will be perfectly lethal at the distances they are concerned about.
 
2013-04-08 06:34:27 PM

way south: Counter_Intelligent: lordargent: It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

I would think the problem would be refraction.  Lasers are still light.  I'd also wonder if heat haze interfered with lasers.

It will shorten the range, but the beams can be adjusted to overcome this.
Considering this is a close range weapon system, it will be perfectly lethal at the distances they are concerned about.


Laser light is all the same wavelength, so the diffraction is minimal, and equal across the beam.  the light does not bend when crossing from water to air/air into water
 
2013-04-08 06:34:27 PM
On the PONCE? Seriously, Navy? You're going to put it on the oldest, shiattiest gator in service? The rest of its class was dismantled or sold to Spain YEARS ago. Its decommissioning has been postponed THREE TIMES. It doesn't have dedicated berthing spaces, PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE P-WAYS!

WTF, Navy? WTF are you thinking?
 
2013-04-08 06:34:42 PM

Aarontology: Because we have all this extra money just laying around.


Actually lasers will probably save quite a bit of money in the long run since they can replace missiles in some capacities.  It's much, much cheaper to simply fire a laser cannon then to manufacture and transport a missile complete with a sophisticated guidance system only for the whole thing to explode the first time you use it.  Laser cannons, unless something goes disastrously wrong, do not explode upon their first use.

Plus the fact I can use the worlds "laser cannon" when referencing actual military hardware fills me with geeky glee.
 
2013-04-08 06:34:53 PM
www.omnigatherum.com
 
2013-04-08 06:35:03 PM

Rhino_man: On the PONCE? Seriously, Navy? You're going to put it on the oldest, shiattiest gator in service? The rest of its class was dismantled or sold to Spain YEARS ago. Its decommissioning has been postponed THREE TIMES. It doesn't have dedicated berthing spaces, PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE P-WAYS!

WTF, Navy? WTF are you thinking?


If it goes boom, no loss
 
2013-04-08 06:35:19 PM

lordargent: Running a-puck: This is fantastic! Lasers work great. Well, unless the air is misty or even really humid, thank Poseidon that never happens on the ocean.

With the amount of power they're talking about pumping, wouldn't it just burn through the mist.

It's supposed to burn through metal at a distance, I don't think a little bit of mist is going to stop it.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 400x218]



It depends on a few factors, such as the specific wavelength of light being used, as some wavelengths are more readily absorbed by atmospheric dust or moisture better than others. Adaptive optics can help as well, as with them the firing computer can automatically adjust the beam to counteract the scattering effect of fog and dust to some degree. Adaptive optics were something they were developing for the Airborne Laser Program, and I would be very surprised if that technology was ignored when they designed this particular laser.

Laser technology IS one of the weapons technologies we'll be employing going forward for quite a while, there's no doubt. Like ANY weapons technology the capabilities at first will be limited, and as time and research marches on will get better for sure.
 
2013-04-08 06:36:26 PM
One more point about the Ponce: It has THE VIETNMAN CAMPAIGN RIBBON ON ITS AWARDS RACK. Also, the mess decks are tiny, and smell like rancid fish half the time... even on days when they don't serve fish.

OK, so that was two more points.

Why yes, I *have* served aboard that pile of shiat, why do you ask?
 
2013-04-08 06:37:08 PM
Next step: Fatty's head
 
2013-04-08 06:38:04 PM
I believe you mean, "BEGIN LASER IGNITIOOOON!"
 
2013-04-08 06:39:38 PM

meat0918: I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.


Was that really a thing? Man, I would have LOVED to hear the legal debates about whether or not soldiers could fire flame-throwers at the enemy!
 
2013-04-08 06:39:56 PM

Rhino_man: On the PONCE? Seriously, Navy? You're going to put it on the oldest, shiattiest gator in service? The rest of its class was dismantled or sold to Spain YEARS ago. Its decommissioning has been postponed THREE TIMES. It doesn't have dedicated berthing spaces, PEOPLE SLEEP IN THE P-WAYS!

WTF, Navy? WTF are you thinking?


Oldest ? Thats the Denver ....
 
2013-04-08 06:41:46 PM
Mmmmhm, seems familiar....

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2013-04-08 06:42:18 PM

TheOtherMisterP: meat0918: I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.

Was that really a thing? Man, I would have LOVED to hear the legal debates about whether or not soldiers could fire flame-throwers at the enemy!


The US stopped using them in the 70s, but didn't actually ban them by treaty until 2008.
 
2013-04-08 06:43:07 PM

TheOtherMisterP: meat0918: I give it 4 decades after it's first use against ground based targets before it's banned for use against ground personnel, much like the flame thrower finally was banned in 2008.

Was that really a thing? Man, I would have LOVED to hear the legal debates about whether or not soldiers could fire flame-throwers at the enemy!


The argument was that there was no better way of accomplishing the task that would be as safe for the assaulters.  (Think caves)
 
2013-04-08 06:45:28 PM
Fantastic! Hopefully we will be able to see it in action sometime within the next 200 years when Cylons will be our biggest threat and enemy, and not some rogue nations funding a bunch of guys with AK rifles and bombs across their backs.
 
2013-04-08 06:45:42 PM
As I understand it, the only thing holding back laser infantry rifles is a reliable and portable power source that won't vaporize or severely poison or injure everyone in the immediate area, should it be shot or otherwise damaged.
The white paper I read a few years back was really promising, so I can only imagine what sort of progress has been made since then..
 
2013-04-08 06:46:47 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Might be a better missile defense than what is currently used on ships.


O RLY?

media.defenceindustrydaily.com
 
2013-04-08 06:47:59 PM

Rhino_man: One more point about the Ponce: It has THE VIETNMAN CAMPAIGN RIBBON ON ITS AWARDS RACK. Also, the mess decks are tiny, and smell like rancid fish half the time... even on days when they don't serve fish.

OK, so that was two more points.

Why yes, I *have* served aboard that pile of shiat, why do you ask?


It's better to use an old ship as a test bed than take a more useful ship from frontline service just
to modified for use as a test platform for new stuff.
 
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