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(NPR)   Broadcasters fearful of the growing number of "Zero TV" people. We'll tell you why they're growing right after this five-minute ad block. Plus: Remember to watch the debut of Buttcracks of Bel-Air on Bravo tonight   (npr.org) divider line 276
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2013-04-08 08:25:13 PM
albert71292:

Not going to pay for any streaming services until I get faster bandwidth. Did the free 30-day Netflix trial, but cancelled before billing started, because of excess buffering.

wtf?  I have 1 meg DSL and netflix works great.  How long ago was this?!
 
2013-04-08 08:29:02 PM
I've tried to suggest cutting the cord (I do watch some shows, but I am also perfectly happy waiting until its on AmPrime or Netflix), but my husband is a complete tech-head.  HAS to have the sharpest looking picture, HAS to have a great surround sound, LOVES playing his gaming systems, and LOVES his sports.

It's not happening for me.  LEAVE ME!  SAVE YOURSELVES!!!
 
2013-04-08 08:33:37 PM
I have become "Area Man" and I am not ashamed. TV made me this way.
 
2013-04-08 08:33:58 PM
Ctrl+F "Game of Thrones".

duh.
 
2013-04-08 08:45:52 PM

mrmaster: albert71292:

Not going to pay for any streaming services until I get faster bandwidth. Did the free 30-day Netflix trial, but cancelled before billing started, because of excess buffering.

wtf?  I have 1 meg DSL and netflix works great.  How long ago was this?!


About 4 months ago, on my 6Mbps DSL connection. Might have been because my son was online doing stuff also, but if I can't watch when I want, no point in subscribing.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:52 PM
o.onionstatic.com
 
2013-04-08 10:05:17 PM
Amen subby.
 
2013-04-08 10:06:47 PM
I still have my TV.  Makes a good place to plug my Hulu into.
 
2013-04-08 10:15:13 PM
I have a TV but I dont subscribe to network service.  I think there are very few "zero TV" households.
 
2013-04-08 11:08:35 PM
Cut the cable 20+ years ago when logos started infesting TV, before that I'd used VCRs to bypass commercials.

I can't stand to be anywhere with a TV any more, too much garbage, logos everywhere, and the program isn't viewable because of all the junk in the way.

Likewise I won't use any internet device that I did not set up. Far too much rubbish.

I get my TV from DVDs from Netflix, or in some cases when the prices actually gets down to reasonable, I'll buy discs. Or spend an hour or so watching cat videos on YouTube (More interesting than most modern TV) or random other thing from various places around the net.

I do have a TV, used mostly when the weather gets ugly and the most up-to-date info is on local channels. The last time I turned it on was to watch the ball drop. This is an old analog Multi-System TV with a digital converter. I have a DVD player, but I use my computer for most of my DVD watching.
 
2013-04-08 11:13:26 PM

AngryJailhouseFistfark: CeroX: Jument: My wife and I watch a lot of TV. Don't hate us, we also do marathons and triathlons and both have decent jobs. Anyways, I want to cut the cord because cable costs too damn much. Currently we have cable Tivos which are awesome, primarily because WAF is high and I rarely need to help my wife with anything.

The thing I'm worried about is that once the cord is cut our TV will come from a number of different sources. I am worried that my wife will not be happy and that I in turn will not be happy because I'm constantly going to have to help her. Is there a solution (perhaps Roku?) that I should be looking at to make cordless TV a pain-free experience?

PS3

Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Crackle, Anime Alley, VUDU + Blue Ray, Dvd, and 3D, as well as able to view and play files from any windows media server or online cloud media server...

this reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer decided he wanted to stop US Mail delivery to his home:

Postal Employee: "May I help you?"
Kramer: "Yeah, I'd like to cancel my mail."
Postal Employee: "Certainly. How long would you like us to hold it?"
Kramer: "Oh, no, no. I don't think you get me. I want out, permanently."
Newman: "I'll handle this, Violet. Why don't you take your three hour break?
Oh, calm down, everyone. No one's cancelling any mail."
Kramer: "Oh, yes, I am."
Newman: "What about your bills?"
Kramer: "The bank can pay 'em."
Newman: "The bank. What about your cards and letters?"
Kramer: "E-mail, telephones, fax machines. Fedex, telex, telegrams,
holograms."
Newman: "All right, it's true! Of course nobody needs mail. What do you
think, you're so clever for figuring that out? But you don't know the half of
what goes on here. So just walk away, Kramer. I beg of you."
Supervisor: "Is everything all right here, Postal Employee Newman?"
Newman: "Yes, sir, I believe everything is all squared away. Isn't it, Mr.
Kramer?"
Kramer: "Oh, yeah. As long as I stop getting mail!"


And I fear it will end much the same way ...


www.bigjoshcox.com
 
2013-04-08 11:36:09 PM

letrole: Anyone who owns a TV but haven't turned it on in years also tends to:

1. Ride a bike to work wearing spandex stretch trousers
2. Drink microbrewery beer
3. Watch Japanese children's cartoons on a Mac
4. Appreciate the warmth of vinyl phonograph records
5. Read books at Starbucks
6. Claim to prefer girls with small breasts
7. Make snide remarks about Wal-Mart.
8. Walk past a smoker and force pretentious coughing noises
9. Take comfort in believing size doesn't matter
10. Feign disgust at the idea of eating a Big Mac


What?  Are you claiming we're not American?

Well, I'm not.

I don't own a TV... I own a computer.

Drink New Brunswick microbrews... still own the records and record player I had in the 80's... snide about Wallmart, yup... all boobies are worth celebrating... Harvey's burgers kick the ass of Big Mac's.
 
2013-04-08 11:43:14 PM

St. Celery: All the lying bigots passing the blame onto their wives as the reason they still have cable are transparent, pathetic and don't deserve wives. I don't know a single woman who is such a mouth breathing moron that she can't operate a Netflix interface. Just admit you're keeping cable for sports, soft core and your weird obsession with The Real Housewives of Bumfark.


This. My wife was brain injured in 2007 yet she is able to find what she wants to watch on the Roku by sorting through Netflix, Plex and the K-Drama channel.

Was thinking about a WD device, but then the new Roku came out with a headphone jack on the remote. I think I'll add that to the collection of Rokus. Also, the new search interface is supposed to let you find anything across all the channels on the Roku, be it Amazon, Netflix of Hulu or Youtube. We'll see how that works out. Plex transcodes ont eh fly so I don't have to worry about re-encoding anything anymore either. Nice.
 
2013-04-09 01:23:59 AM
I pay an extra $3 a month for the most basic of the basic cable packages, along with my internet access.  I get the broadcast stations, the standard cable allotment (USA, AMC, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network, Nickelodeon, etc) and a couple of international news stations like RT, NHK World, that French 24 hour news channel I don't remember the name of.

Most of the shows I actually watch I access through other sources (and a high percentage of them are BBC so I couldn't watch them via cable if I wanted to) but it's nice having TV just to have something on in the background.  NHK World is great for that- interspersed news and informational progamming - and the informational stuff is almost always interesting, and while the news is focused on Asia, I've also seen better reporting of American news there than I have on CNN, and RT has much better coverage of stuff in the middle east.
 
2013-04-09 02:00:30 AM

MikeVx: Cut the cable 20+ years ago when logos started infesting TV, before that I'd used VCRs to bypass commercials.

I can't stand to be anywhere with a TV any more, too much garbage, logos everywhere, and the program isn't viewable because of all the junk in the way.

Likewise I won't use any internet device that I did not set up. Far too much rubbish.

I get my TV from DVDs from Netflix, or in some cases when the prices actually gets down to reasonable, I'll buy discs. Or spend an hour or so watching cat videos on YouTube (More interesting than most modern TV) or random other thing from various places around the net.

I do have a TV, used mostly when the weather gets ugly and the most up-to-date info is on local channels. The last time I turned it on was to watch the ball drop. This is an old analog Multi-System TV with a digital converter. I have a DVD player, but I use my computer for most of my DVD watching.


What do you call it TV? TV is a nickname. Nicknames are for friends, and TV ain't no friend of yours.
 
2013-04-09 03:50:53 AM

Chevello: St. Celery:

This. My wife was brain injured in 2007 yet she is able to find what she wants to watch on the Roku by sorting through Netflix, Plex and the K-Drama channel.


Glad to hear she's doing well. My sister was injured in 2009, and made an amazing recovery, although sometimes all the DVR/Roku/etc give her fits when trying to figure out the hook-ups.
 
2013-04-09 04:52:23 AM
When I first signed up for cable back in 1990, I paid $15 a month for 101 channels. The only reason I didn't get more is because I refused to pay the extra $10 a month for cinemax, HBO, showtime and the movie channel with the box rental (it was a package deal).

Now there's a lot more channels, but nothing to watch... and it's $96 a month for the basic digital cable package. Not the bundle with the phone and the interwebs, just tv. For the bundle it's almost $200 a month.

F*ck that.

I have a library of over 1200 movies and half again that in anime and animation on dvd and bluray that I've accumulated over that time. If I want news and info I'll use my DSL @ $22 a month. The only reason the cable companies have been able to do that in my area is because there's almost no competition. If you want a different cable service, you have to move... and there are only two services for the whole county. If you want cable tv hey have you by the balls, and price their offerings accordingly.

I gave up the box almost a year ago. If these corporations want me back, they are going to have to readjust their pricing structure so that it's a bit less outrageous. I can do plenty of other things with that $100 a month... outside is a good thing, and it's HD too, without a cable box rental.

/and before you ask, I live in an apartment
//no antennas for local stations
///signals blocked by many hills
 
2013-04-09 08:40:45 AM

profplump: The Internet hasn't figured out "live" yet, at least not in any standardized and efficient form. But the Internet is pretty good at "current" with respect to the weekly timescale of most TV.


Hockeystreams they do every single NHL game live and in 720p
 
2013-04-09 12:54:41 PM
Yeah, hi, I gave up on TV 10 years ago.

Just finished reading "Thrive Fitness", next: "Salt, Sugar, Fat" -- I am a corporate nightmare.
 
2013-04-09 02:36:40 PM

Hella Fark: the whole point of subscribing to cable is to watch current shows and live programming (sports, news, etc)

people who subscribe value this content and can't obtain it otherwise. those that "unplug" decide that this is not a priority for them and all they want is the ability to stream re-runs and movies. If networks care about the tide of viewers, they need to focus on improving the quality of their shows to keep current broadcasts a priority for their customers.


I agree on the live shows.  But for just current shows, there's too much content out there to be able to keep up with it all as it comes out.  So what if I start watching season 1 episode 1 of a TV show several years after it aired?  The only aspect I lose is the ability to converse about it with my friends, which, after one good marathon weekend isn't a problem anymore.  (gotta say, I've grown quite fond of the marathon sessions, watch an entire season commercial free in one day).  If it's a good show, I'll still like it no matter when I start watching it.
 
2013-04-09 02:57:14 PM
Hey Learning Channel.
Remember when I used to watch your shows? When they were about things like this:
www.hoax-slayer.com
Or this:
avoision.com
Or this:
www.en.iamistanbul.tv

And then you replaced all those with this:
images.christianpost.com

And now I don't watch your station anymore.
Why do you think that might be???
 
2013-04-09 03:17:56 PM
Know what the best thing about watching all my TV online? Not having ads for shiatty shows pop up randomly and cover the bottom third of the screen.
 
2013-04-09 04:37:17 PM

WhatTheHellAreYouLookinAt: Hey Learning Channel.
Remember when I used to watch your shows? When they were about things like ...

...And now I don't watch your station anymore.
Why do you think that might be???


Because they'd rather replace you with 20 people who love Springer and are moving "up" to higher brow entertainment?

It took them a while but they and other stations finally learned to pander to the lowest common denominator for more money.
 
2013-04-09 05:06:00 PM
The Flexecutioner:

Because they'd rather replace you with 20 people who love Springer and are moving "up" to higher brow entertainment?

It took them a while but they and other stations finally learned to pander to the lowest common denominator for more money.



The sad thing is, and I'm ashamed to admit it, you're right. The only question that remains is why are they beating around the bush, and not just cutting to the chase?

codinghorror.typepad.com
 
2013-04-10 08:27:06 AM
I have plenty of TVs. I just don't have cable. Or satellite. But each console gets its own TV.
 
2013-04-10 11:13:17 AM
Obviously, they have no conception what "Zero TV" really means. Television is a "Medium." This is because none of it is "Well-done" or "Rare". What little we watch of TV can easily be gotten over the internet. News is also better when gotten from various sources, rather than spoon-fed through a particular station's "spin-cycle".
 
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