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2013-04-08 02:10:08 PM

RickN99: SockMonkeyHolocaust: Also, it's amazing how many people want to give you a TV when they find out that you don't have one. It's difficult for some people to wrap their head around that someone would choose to go without one.

Sounds like a plan.

"I don't have a TV."
"You're kidding.  Have a free TV."
*sell TV*
"I don't have a TV."
"You're kidding....


What type of TV?  These days, old analog TVs are worth negative amounts of money-IE, you have to pay money for the recycling fees to throw it away.
 
2013-04-08 02:10:36 PM
i'd gladly pay an extra 10 bucks a month to watch all my shows commercial free if that is even possible
 
2013-04-08 02:12:27 PM
I'm too busy watching Ow, My Balls to RTFA.
 
2013-04-08 02:12:58 PM
I gouged out both my eyes last month, so I don't watch anything at all.
 
2013-04-08 02:14:50 PM

FishyFred: [i50.tinypic.com image 750x563]


Please remember, although the long-standing members of this site may have seen this a million times (hyperbole), with the population taken into consideration and the very nature of the internet, I do believe that for many, this will be only the first or second time seeing something like this.

As an old(?) man, there is nothing new on this planet so I take my pleasure in listening to the same topics with newly injected ideas from those younger and less experienced than myself.
 
2013-04-08 02:16:21 PM

katerbug72: Any suggestions on a Roku alternative?


I'm personally fond of the LG Smart TV Upgrader, which has native support for Plex, Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, DLNA servers,  SMB, NFS (local file server protocols) and can natively play .mkv and .FLAC files, including support for AC3 and DTS audio. They're like $60 refurbished or used. Good luck finding a new one.

The WD TV Live is decent with a nice interface, but it has some annoying limitations in terms of support for local content.

The original Boxee box has a nice, fast interface with crap tons of online options and supports damned near everything, but it doesn't do Plex or DLNA.

Anything that you can hack a Plex client on to (Raspberry Pi, AppleTV, Generic Android HDMI stick, PC with XBMC or just the Plex Media Desktop) is going to be pretty decent, since Plex aggregates local content as well as online services.
 
2013-04-08 02:22:33 PM

whitey_d: giftedmadness: lilplatinum: SockMonkeyHolocaust: After over 10 years, I am kind of to the point where I don't even watch DVDs or NetFlix anymore or I watch Repo Man over and over again. I watched 10 minutes of Big Bang Theory the other day and I can't believe that anyone is watching it without some kind of incentive or their families are being held hostage or something. TV is like religion to me, it's just not something that has a part in my life or something I really think about except when I post about how I don't have a TV.

I will say this, though. I am not trained to be around them any more. I can't ignore TVs in the wild. I wind up just staring.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-d oe snt-own-a-tel,429/

That article claims the man lived with his gf when he was 13.  It's probably fake.

Actually the article was written in 2000 so he would have been 26


wow, i can't believe i didn't even look at the date it was written
 
2013-04-08 02:26:05 PM
What shocks me the most about TV is just how god awful the commercials are.  I watch some of them and it boggles my mind to think that somewhere out there, someone actually thought "Yes!  Having that father and son just start to sing and dance in the grocery is SOOO totally gonna make people want to buy it!!!"  Then, I think about the commercials that were rejected, and just how utterly miserable those ideas must have been.

/don't get me started about commercials where old people "rap"
 
2013-04-08 02:27:49 PM
Yes. I love streaming shows and sporting events everyone else watched 3 months ago..
 
2013-04-08 02:28:18 PM

gittlebass: i'd gladly pay an extra 10 bucks a month to watch all my shows commercial free if that is even possible


If you don't mind waiting 11 months or so, that's called Netflix.
 
2013-04-08 02:31:30 PM

likefunbutnot: katerbug72: Any suggestions on a Roku alternative?

I'm personally fond of the LG Smart TV Upgrader, which has native support for Plex, Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, DLNA servers,  SMB, NFS (local file server protocols) and can natively play .mkv and .FLAC files, including support for AC3 and DTS audio. They're like $60 refurbished or used. Good luck finding a new one.

The WD TV Live is decent with a nice interface, but it has some annoying limitations in terms of support for local content.

The original Boxee box has a nice, fast interface with crap tons of online options and supports damned near everything, but it doesn't do Plex or DLNA.

Anything that you can hack a Plex client on to (Raspberry Pi, AppleTV, Generic Android HDMI stick, PC with XBMC or just the Plex Media Desktop) is going to be pretty decent, since Plex aggregates local content as well as online services.


I'm really a fan of my PS3 for streaming.  Obviously, it's a lot more expensive than those other options, but if you've already got one (or are considering one) it does Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, and it can even be used to stream from a computer (which is what we do with a lot of our stuff).
 
2013-04-08 02:39:29 PM

GoldSpider: The day I can get internet cheaper without basic cable than with is the day I cut the cord completely.


Have I got great news for you then! Paying $50 per month on a cable package in order to save yourself $10 per month on your internet is not, in fact cheaper than paying an extra $10 per month for your internet.
 
2013-04-08 02:39:43 PM

rugman11: I'm really a fan of my PS3 for streaming. Obviously, it's a lot more expensive than those other options, but if you've already got one (or are considering one) it does Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, and it can even be used to stream from a computer (which is what we do with a lot of our stuff).


I bought a PS3 so I could rip SACDs. It's hot, uses a lot of power and is louder than anything I'd want to leave on all the time in my living room. It also suffers for having less than ideal control interface and the "mother may I?" limitations that are common to console-based gaming systems. Yes, it's a functional DLNA client, but so is a $50 Android-on-a-stick.
 
2013-04-08 02:40:36 PM
That's what it said, swear to god. After, it says that's not true, but the implication is still there that's why to buy the product, and I'm sure johnny 14yrold is thrilled over the new idea of how to tease 14yrold sally.

The other commercials were no better. Even as a very self-assured adult the attack on one's social acceptibility was palpable.

/3rd time posting on a mobile conn plz work baby
 
2013-04-08 02:41:37 PM
Cable/TV has me by the balls until I get a GOOD alternative to live sports. I suppose I could go to a sports bar anytime a game is on, but that's not always an option. I "need" the following:

-NFL
-MLB
-Golf Channel
-College football (occasionally)

If I could pay a la carte for those, I could possibly convince the wife to cut the cord
 
2013-04-08 02:43:10 PM

seadoo2006: Yeah ... until Sony decides that the legal movie you're watching is illegal ... almost punted my PS3 out the window. I use a WD Live Box now ... 10x better. Fark Sony ... those douchebags.


I have two WD TV Lives, and I love them. I use them to play movies over my network. Those things play almost ANYTHING you throw at them. I rip my Blu-rays to .mkv's, along with multiple audio streams and subtitles. The only annoying thing I have experienced is that they won't play the native "SUP" subtitles in Blu-rays. I have to convert them to SUB/IDX first, then mux them back into the video file. It's definitely not something for a casual person to do, but the WD boxes are a godsend for techies like me and anyone who needs to be able to play a broad range of formats (or lesser supported ones). The damn things play almost everything.
 
2013-04-08 02:43:11 PM

HaywoodJablonski: Cable/TV has me by the balls until I get a GOOD alternative to live sports. I suppose I could go to a sports bar anytime a game is on, but that's not always an option. I "need" the following:

-NFL
-MLB
-Golf Channel
-College football (occasionally)

If I could pay a la carte for those, I could possibly convince the wife to cut the cord


I'll add EPL to the list of "needs"
 
2013-04-08 02:43:12 PM
So, they are upset that. . .

People don't want to watch TV news because it's mostly talking heads and "human interest" stories.  If I want meaningful news coverage I'll check online, especially NPR, BBC News, and the Christian Science Monitor.  I don't want to watch Fox News Propaganda Channel, Headline News is no longer 24/7 news anymore, and CNN has an awful lot of non-news "commentary" now.

Channels that used to be worth watching are now crap.  I don't want to watch Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, Pawn Stars, Toddlers and Tiaras, Honey Boo Boo, Jersey Shore, and the rest of that nonsense.  I used to watch History channel because it was. . .history.  Now it's mostly "reality" shows.  I stopped watching.  Not to mention Sci-Fi becoming SyFi and turning into nothing but cheap monster movies, or A&E is no longer about Arts & Entertainment and instead is just random nonsense.  Make the History Channel about History.  Discovery channel used to be aviation and nature documentaries, but they spun the aviation documentaries off to Discovery Wings (later The Military Channel) and the nature shows to Animal Planet. . .leaving the actual Discovery channel with nothing.  MTV hasn't had music in a generation, the last good show on there was Daria.  VH1 went the way of MTV as well.

Cable companies sell huge packages of dozens upon dozens of channels you don't want to watch, and you have to buy fifty channels to get one you want to see.  All the while they are trying to sell you premium channels, and to get you to also get VOIP phone through them too.  Sales pressure for crap you don't need.

Ten years ago I moved into my first off-campus apartment and got my own cable and internet.  The local cable company charged $70/month for broadband and a cable package.  If I got internet through them, I had to get a more advanced (and expensive) TV package, I couldn't get just basic cable.  In ten years, the cost of cable has more than doubled, going from $70 to $160 for the same services.  They threw in some "on demand" digital pay-per-view system and a DVR while they upped the price, but it still means that to get cable and an internet connection I'm paying almost as much per month as I do for my car. . .but if I want to cancel the TV and have just internet I can knock about $100 off that, but I can't downgrade to any lesser TV package without cancelling my internet.  I think they're just abusing their monopoly.

I'm getting pretty fed up with cable TV myself.
 
2013-04-08 02:48:10 PM

Torchsong: Broadcast will win back this zero television household when they put on programming this zero television household is actually willing to spend money to watch.

ProTip: If it's reality television in any way shape or form, you fail.


There is PLENTY of good programming on television. People are fed up with intrusive advertising (too much airtime is advertising and they interrupt the shows too frequently) and high prices. Address those two issues, and people won't feel compelled to look for alternatives.
 
2013-04-08 02:48:10 PM

ahwahoo2006: I'm convinced Comcast (Xfinity, whatever) is throttling Netflix. Had to switch to them since my new building is Comcast only (yay monopolies...) and ever since Netflix streaming buffers constantly. Never had an issue with Fios.


So you're telling me that cable has less bandwidth than fiber? I don't believe it. Next you'll be telling me that dial-up is even worse. I wasn't born yesterday you know.
 
2013-04-08 02:48:25 PM

Jument: Is there a solution (perhaps Roku?) that I should be looking at to make cordless TV a pain-free experience?


Roku is great. If you're willing to hook up a real computer you have more options, but a Roku is a cheap and easy way to get started.

I'd also recommend Plex Media Server -- which is free and compatible with Roku -- as one of the best ways to get both local content (i.e. stuff you download/record locally) and web content onto your playback devices. Besides letting you use your not-in-the-living-room computer to store/transcode/decrypt/etc. content it also lets you stream to mobile/remote devices, and even pre-cache content on your iOS/Android devices for offline use.
 
2013-04-08 02:50:10 PM

Silverstaff: I'm getting pretty fed up with cable TV myself.


Hint: Look in to what your local cable are providing as business services. Tell them you have a home office.
 
2013-04-08 02:50:46 PM
Aaand fark lost that my post was a reply to a comment.

This mobile browser thing is REALLY not working for me.
 
2013-04-08 02:55:03 PM
I'm cutting the cord Wednesday.  Clear works in these parts, and no extra taxes.  I'll probably get MLB TV.  I do have Prime, and a terrabyte worth of stuff I downloaded.  fark cable.
 
2013-04-08 02:56:28 PM

ComicBookGuy: Abe Vigoda's Ghost: ComicBookGuy: I don't watch T.V. at all!!  I'm just so intellectually superior, I entertain myself solely via my various Apple products.  Unfortunately, I  do have to wear a Lecter mask to stop gay men from shoving their cocks into my mouth when I'm out in public.

I take in that when you're in a private place, you're cool with the gay men shoving cocks into your mouth?

Well, that dep-*mmph*

Goetz: ComicBookGuy: I don't watch T.V. at all!!  I'm just so intellectually superior, I entertain myself solely via my various Apple products.  Unfortunately, I  do have to wear a Lecter mask to stop gay men from shoving their cocks into my mouth when I'm out in public.

You spend a lot of time thinking about having cocks shoved in your mouth don't you?

Is your ass capable of hurt at this point?


You seem confused. Take a break, catch your breath and come out that closet swingin!
 
2013-04-08 02:56:29 PM

RRedline: have two WD TV Lives, and I love them. I use them to play movies over my network. Those things play almost ANYTHING you throw at them. I rip my Blu-rays to .mkv's, along with multiple audio streams and subtitles. The only annoying thing I have experienced is that they won't play the native "SUP" subtitles in Blu-rays. I have to convert them to SUB/IDX first, then mux them back into the video file. It's definitely not something for a casual person to do, but the WD boxes are a godsend for techies like me and anyone who needs to be able to play a broad range of formats (or lesser supported ones). The damn things play almost everything.


Yeah.  Used to have a Roku, but that was a biatch as far as getting your own content to play.
 
2013-04-08 02:56:44 PM

Serges: Oh boy, a TV hate thread.  This should be good.


Why not? Most TV is garbage anyway.
 
2013-04-08 03:01:17 PM

seadoo2006: So, which of you bleating Conservatards is against a TV tax again? Spent a summer in Britain and I would GLADLY, hell EXCITEDLY, pay a TV tax for the BBC and all of its programming.  No commercials, hour long programs are actually an hour long, HD ... yeah ... fark the US system.  Give me the BBC, you can have Honey Boo Boo.


You kiddin'?  I'd like some of that action myself!
 
2013-04-08 03:01:22 PM

dmoynihan: Yeah. Used to have a Roku, but that was a biatch as far as getting your own content to play.


Behold the thing that makes the Roku literally a little black box of awesome sauce
 
2013-04-08 03:02:55 PM

Pocket Ninja: The very instant that HBO becomes available as a standalone subscription will be the same instant I cancel cable forever and get by solely with Amazon Prime.


I get ads for HBO on Xbox Live all the time... why cant you get HBO across Live for whatever monthly fee they are charging (I realize that you may or may not have Live, but Live is less than $50 a year, and half that if you look for deals)?
 
2013-04-08 03:06:11 PM

HaywoodJablonski: HaywoodJablonski: Cable/TV has me by the balls until I get a GOOD alternative to live sports. I suppose I could go to a sports bar anytime a game is on, but that's not always an option. I "need" the following:

-NFL
-MLB
-Golf Channel
-College football (occasionally)

If I could pay a la carte for those, I could possibly convince the wife to cut the cord

I'll add EPL to the list of "needs"


Thing is, TV conglomerates (i.e. ABC/Disney) would sh*t the bed AND put their bodies in the way of it if people demanded a la carte pricing.  That's why you have dumbass networks like ABC Family and how if you want ESPN on your service, you're forced (if you're a cable company) to add channels like ABC Family.
 
2013-04-08 03:08:33 PM

likefunbutnot: katerbug72: Any suggestions on a Roku alternative?

I'm personally fond of the LG Smart TV Upgrader, which has native support for Plex, Netflix, Amazon, Pandora, DLNA servers,  SMB, NFS (local file server protocols) and can natively play .mkv and .FLAC files, including support for AC3 and DTS audio. They're like $60 refurbished or used. Good luck finding a new one.

The WD TV Live is decent with a nice interface, but it has some annoying limitations in terms of support for local content.

The original Boxee box has a nice, fast interface with crap tons of online options and supports damned near everything, but it doesn't do Plex or DLNA.

Anything that you can hack a Plex client on to (Raspberry Pi, AppleTV, Generic Android HDMI stick, PC with XBMC or just the Plex Media Desktop) is going to be pretty decent, since Plex aggregates local content as well as online services.


Thanks.
 
2013-04-08 03:12:07 PM

Rwa2play: Thing is, TV conglomerates (i.e. ABC/Disney) would sh*t the bed AND put their bodies in the way of it if people demanded a la carte pricing. That's why you have dumbass networks like ABC Family and how if you want ESPN on your service, you're forced (if you're a cable company) to add channels like ABC Family.


ABC Family's a respectable network. Their main problem is they can't get out of the contract that forces them to give three hours a day and an annual all-day telethon to Pat Robertson (and to keep the word 'Family' in the title of the network). Basically, if they cancel the 700 Club, every ad deal the network has automatically becomes null and void, which pretty much cripples them inside of five seconds. The most they can do is bury the 700 Club behind a gazillion disclaimers and remove any onscreen reference to what network people are watching.
 
2013-04-08 03:14:13 PM

seadoo2006: Yeah ... until Sony decides that the legal movie you're watching is illegal ... almost punted my PS3 out the window.  I use a WD Live Box now ... 10x better.  Fark Sony ... those douchebags.

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Holy shiat, is that really a thing?

And these farking companies wonder why people pirate.
 
2013-04-08 03:16:35 PM

Gosling: Kahabut: TV is poison for your brain, and most of you can't really afford the lose of cognition in the first place.

Depends what TV. It ain't poison if you're on the Science Channel watching marathons of How It's Made.


Yes, yes it is.  Unless you have an illegal ad blocker on your TV.
 
2013-04-08 03:18:17 PM

StrangeQ: Holy shiat, is that really a thing?

And these farking companies wonder why people pirate.


Yes that is a real thing

I don't think they realize that the noose they are tightening is around their own neck, not the pirate.
 
2013-04-08 03:18:37 PM

davidab: Pocket Ninja: The very instant that HBO becomes available as a standalone subscription will be the same instant I cancel cable forever and get by solely with Amazon Prime.

I get ads for HBO on Xbox Live all the time... why cant you get HBO across Live for whatever monthly fee they are charging (I realize that you may or may not have Live, but Live is less than $50 a year, and half that if you look for deals)?


You still need a cable subscription to watch HBO Go.
 
2013-04-08 03:24:00 PM

louiedog: You still need a cable subscription to watch HBO Go.


Not much longer perhaps

They are looking at the gobs of farking money Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu are making turning to content deliverers like Comcast and Dish and asking "Why the fark aren't you paying us more?"
 
2013-04-08 03:26:27 PM
Not to change the subject, but does Bill Kurtis still spend two hours at a time discoursing on the careers of serial rapist-murderers on A & E?  I remember channel surfing in hotels and seeing him doing that; turning off the TV, going out for a workout, eating, coming back and damned if he wasn't still at it when I turned the TV back on.....talking about the same perp.
 
2013-04-08 03:30:43 PM

evilmousse: The tv guide would be most accurate if it just said 'commercials' for every channel.

Make a random number generator, pick 10 numbers from 1-60. For each number, tune to a channel at that minute of the hour. Over 50% of the time result = commercial.


If you watch an hour long tv show on say Netflix, the show is only 40 mins or so long.  A full third of the airtime is farking commercials.
 
2013-04-08 03:33:54 PM

Igor Jakovsky: If you watch an hour long tv show on say Netflix, the show is only 40 mins or so long. A full third of the airtime is farking commercials.


The thing about ads is that they will go wherever your eyes actually are. A marketer's job (and I did major in marketing in college) is to make sure you're seeing ads somewhere, somehow, someway. If you move away from them, the job is to find out where you've moved to and put the ads there instead. If you're running AdBlock, the ads will just be integrated into somewhere AdBlock can't touch. If you're fast-forwarding through ads, the ads will start being constructed in such a fashion that you can recognize them even at fast-forward speed (and they are doing this; advertisers have noticed that people actually pay MORE attention to commercials when fast-forwarding because they need to know when the ads are ending and the show's starting again).
 
2013-04-08 03:35:06 PM

Igor Jakovsky: If you watch an hour long tv show on say Netflix, the show is only 40 mins or so long. A full third of the airtime is farking commercials.


I just recently pulled the plug on cable, and held off till I could find a source for my NHL addiction (thank god for hockeystreams). The one thing I knew I was loosing was AMC shows, there is no next day source for that like most so I'd have to torrent it. No biggie, I miss it by a day.

I watched the Walking Dead, last 4 episodes of Season 3 and honestly I have to say I was finding myself enjoying the show MORE. The commercials were an obvious distraction that I realized they were detrimentally affecting my viewing. I realized that there are probably other shows that I never picked up because the commercials threw me off them.

Gonna try and watch The Americans and catch up with that. I never could get it into, and now I think I know why.
 
2013-04-08 03:41:36 PM

Jument: CeroX: Jument: My wife and I watch a lot of TV. Don't hate us, we also do marathons and triathlons and both have decent jobs. Anyways, I want to cut the cord because cable costs too damn much. Currently we have cable Tivos which are awesome, primarily because WAF is high and I rarely need to help my wife with anything.

The thing I'm worried about is that once the cord is cut our TV will come from a number of different sources. I am worried that my wife will not be happy and that I in turn will not be happy because I'm constantly going to have to help her. Is there a solution (perhaps Roku?) that I should be looking at to make cordless TV a pain-free experience?

PS3

Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Crackle, Anime Alley, VUDU + Blue Ray, Dvd, and 3D, as well as able to view and play files from any windows media server or online cloud media server...


I've never owned a PS3 in my life. Putting aside Blue Ray, could I get most or all of that with an Xbox (which I own one of already) or a Roku (which I also own one of already, used for Netflix only right now).


I don't need to play my own video off a server. I just don't do that. I rarely if ever rewatch something and if I did, I would just Netflix it.


I hate Sony, but my ps3 is a pretty awesome little media machine. I hear it even plays games, but that's probably just a rumor.

the Netflix app on the 360 is terrible.
 
2013-04-08 03:41:58 PM

Bleyo: germ78: Count me in the "only watches TV for sports" brigade. Though I find it sad how many sports teams have gone to cable-only networks with few if any broadcast games anymore (the Bulls and Blackhawks used to get a game or so a week on local WGN; haven't seen one there in a while now). Netflix is pure awesome, though I can envision a future where Madison Avenue types make them an offer too good to refuse, and we wind up with ads on Netflix. That would be the day my Netflix subscription ends.

There are a lot of legal ways around that now.  If you want to watch the home team, all their games will be on local network stations that you can get on antenna for free in HD.  If you root for another team, there are services you can get on you PC or gaming console that will let you stream the games live for a fee.

The only issue I've had with it is NFL Sunday Ticket doesn't show MNF, so I just went to the sports bar with friends every Monday night.


I'd love to be in a town that simulcasts games on one of the local digital broadcast affiliates. Alas, that perk only happens when the Bears are on a cable-only network (ESPN or NFL network). Otherwise, I'd love to see the Cubs, Bulls, and Blackhawks get simulcast on a channel like 9.2 (WGN's extra network for syndicated '70s and '80s sitcoms) or 26.2 (currently MeTV). shiat, I'd like to see the local FOX affiliate (WFLD 32) get a second digital channel for anything. It seems weird that they don't have one.

/I think the fact that Comcast runs the local sports network in my area is the reason this doesn't happen
 
2013-04-08 03:45:09 PM

Gosling: PanicMan: There's actually some really good shows on YouTube.  Like Penny Arcade's "StripSearch", for example.  Or anything on the Nerdist channel.

Also mentioned Strip Search upthread, but really, reality producers ought to learn from their example. You can have a compelling reality show without manufacturing drama or casting people who you know are raging assholes likely to cause fights and shouting matches all season. Strip Search got just as much mileage from a mildly uncomfortable spat of simple disagreement between a contestant and a judge, and the closest to a rageathon has come from the hosts struggling to decide who to eliminate because the two nominees were just that damn good and only raging against the fact that they had to send someone home anyway.


That episode was one of the greatest things I've ever seen.  I gained a lot of respect for Mike (Gabe) on that one, he really appreciates art.  And it's pretty cool you can go to PAX and meet any of those people and have a conversation.
 
2013-04-08 03:45:34 PM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: I watched the Walking Dead, last 4 episodes of Season 3 and honestly I have to say I was finding myself enjoying the show MORE. The commercials were an obvious distraction that I realized they were detrimentally affecting my viewing. I realized that there are probably other shows that I never picked up because the commercials threw me off them.


And if the show is syndicated, they will cut scenes out to add more commercial time.  For example, in Scrubs, (season 4 I think) Turk gets back from his honeymoon.  JD yells out of a window to Turk in the parking lot, then he and Turk run around the hospital trying to find each other because they missed each other.  On the DVD, this scene is several minutes long with Turk and JD running all over the hospital.  In syndication, this scene is totally different.  JD yells out of a window to Turk in the parking lot, then he and Turk are hugging in the hallway 5 seconds later.
 
2013-04-08 03:45:53 PM

gambitsgirl: Andrew Wiggin: gambitsgirl: gambitsgirl: TheShavingofOccam123: gambitsgirl: I cut the cord over 4 years ago. I get my entertainment from the Internet. Like FARK. Which makes me stupider than people who watch Honey Boo boo

Welcome home!

thank you, luv.  Actually came out to troll the TF threads for the local tragedy. Some moms were worried about media at the elementary school and I came out to see how big of a splash the story made.  So far only 2 redlights and really any media that would go to the school to get a 7-year-olds reaction to a friend being crushed to death by 24 foot of dirt offsite would be lynched.


that didn't sound right.  Came out to dredge through the TF threads? To see the TF threads? To look at the...  meh nevermind

we all know what you meant. sicko.

my sickness is part of my charm.  At least I didn't make a "dig through" joke at the dead kids expense


Keep talking.

You will eventually dig your way to china...

\I feel dirty for making that joke
\\snark aside, farking sad story
 
2013-04-08 03:46:13 PM
I built a HTPC with built in blu-ray player that works great, runs win7, has 2tb of hard drive space and is about the size of a PS3. Awesome for downloads, games and all that. I have a WiiU which is awesome for netflix, amazon and hulu and monster hunting. A roku in the bedroom the wife uses for grey's anatomy or whatever drama she's currently watching. Haven't paid for cable in years and have a very extensive blu-ray and DVD collection.

The first year Game of Thrones aired it was on Amazon for 2.99 a HD episode 24 hours after airing which is perfectly reasonable to me and most shows are that way. I bought the whole thing as it came out and enjoyed it in HD. The second year they put a stop to that. Since they won't take my money, I'm going to pirate it and not feel bad. I like to support the producers when I can but I'm not paying $150/month for something I could get for $12/m online without commercials or annoyances.

Good thing the snow's going to eventually stop soon in Colorado so I can get back to gardening and fishing, while taking an amazon episode I paid for with me on the Kindle HD.
 
2013-04-08 03:47:22 PM
I like watching TVs.  They have fashion sense and a certain refreshing flamboyance.
 
2013-04-08 03:51:44 PM
Well for starters, Broadcast TV, you can stop filling up the bottom of my screen with station ID's, ads for other shows, disctracting flashy things, etc. That shiat sucks.
 
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