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(NPR)   Broadcasters fearful of the growing number of "Zero TV" people. We'll tell you why they're growing right after this five-minute ad block. Plus: Remember to watch the debut of Buttcracks of Bel-Air on Bravo tonight   (npr.org) divider line 276
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2013-04-08 11:33:33 AM  
Netflix.  That is all.
 
2013-04-08 11:37:57 AM  
I watch very little TV for a few reasons:

- I get my news from the internet, other than breaking news on major events, I already know what happened during the day
- Most TV entertainment is dumbed down for the lowest common denominator, casts the widest net possible to bring in the largest audience base possible, and you know what, that does not always work
- Sitcoms are the lowest form of TV "entertainment"
- (Personal Opinion) A lot of TV networks have lost their way.   White trash brigade Honey Boo-Boo,  Pedos Wet Dream Toddlers and Tiaras, Alcoholic meth heads with no sense of decency or fashion sense My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, is not exactly "Learning."
- 4-6 minute commercial breaks and OBVIOUS product placement is frustrating...YAY for DVR?!?
- Asking me to pay somewhere between $150-$200+ per month, plus $45 per month for high speed internet is insane!  Especially considering of the ~500 or so available channels being offered, both my wife and I only watch maybe, MAYBE 10-15 of them.
 
2013-04-08 11:39:05 AM  
i.ytimg.com
 
2013-04-08 11:41:24 AM  
TV got you down?  Check out BuzzFeed!
 
2013-04-08 11:46:41 AM  
The very instant that HBO becomes available as a standalone subscription will be the same instant I cancel cable forever and get by solely with Amazon Prime.
 
2013-04-08 11:50:30 AM  

Pocket Ninja: The very instant that HBO becomes available as a standalone subscription will be the same instant I cancel cable forever and get by solely with Amazon Prime.


I'd be right there with you.  If Amazon and HBO were to merge, Verizon, Time Warner, and Cox would collectively shiat themselves for this very reason.
 
2013-04-08 11:50:49 AM  
I cut the cord a little over two years ago, don't miss it at all. I find quite a bit to watch for free on the 18 over the air stations I get with my outdoor antenna. Also, I watch a lot of "TWiT" and "GFQ" online.

Not going to pay for any streaming services until I get faster bandwidth. Did the free 30-day Netflix trial, but cancelled before billing started, because of excess buffering.
 
2013-04-08 11:55:05 AM  

Endive Wombat: - Sitcoms are Reality TV is the lowest form of TV "entertainment"

 
2013-04-08 12:05:11 PM  
i50.tinypic.com
 
2013-04-08 12:36:40 PM  

albert71292: I cut the cord a little over two years ago, don't miss it at all. I find quite a bit to watch for free on the 18 over the air stations I get with my outdoor antenna. Also, I watch a lot of "TWiT" and "GFQ" online.

Not going to pay for any streaming services until I get faster bandwidth. Did the free 30-day Netflix trial, but cancelled before billing started, because of excess buffering.


I do Netflix for the occasional movie and nature documentary, and then antenna for football. The Blackhawks have a contract with Comcast Sports Net, but HD hockey games aren't worth $70/month, so I just stream.
 
2013-04-08 12:39:18 PM  
I put my television sets on the curb a couple of years ago and have not looked back.

I'll use Hulu and Netflix on occasion, but I'm done with "TV".

Suck it, broadcasters.
 
2013-04-08 12:40:04 PM  
'Buttcracks of Bel-Air' is ok, but I prefer 'Wedgies of the West,'  the reality show about cowboys who wear their jeans too tight.
 
2013-04-08 12:40:54 PM  
My wife and I watch a lot of TV. Don't hate us, we also do marathons and triathlons and both have decent jobs. Anyways, I want to cut the cord because cable costs too damn much. Currently we have cable Tivos which are awesome, primarily because WAF is high and I rarely need to help my wife with anything.

The thing I'm worried about is that once the cord is cut our TV will come from a number of different sources. I am worried that my wife will not be happy and that I in turn will not be happy because I'm constantly going to have to help her. Is there a solution (perhaps Roku?) that I should be looking at to make cordless TV a pain-free experience?
 
2013-04-08 12:41:01 PM  
I tried watching friggin' TV last night. Turned it off and watched Saudi drifting videos on the tablet instead. Yes, it's just as stupid.
 
2013-04-08 12:41:19 PM  
Oh boy, a TV hate thread.  This should be good.
 
2013-04-08 12:41:44 PM  
I picked up a free TV off of a curb a couple of years ago and then got another subscription from Dish so now I have 2 tvs next to each other and I just constantly watch reality shows and all that stuff.
 
2013-04-08 12:41:57 PM  
I cut the cord over 4 years ago. I get my entertainment from the Internet. Like FARK. Which makes me stupider than people who watch Honey Boo boo
 
2013-04-08 12:42:30 PM  

Endive Wombat: - Sitcoms are the lowest form of TV "entertainment"


Sorry these low end reality shows are the lowest. Pawn shops, garbage pickers, storage locker clean out and chefs cooking with veal, brussle sprouts and captin crunch as a contest.
 
2013-04-08 12:42:39 PM  
After over 10 years, I am kind of to the point where I don't even watch DVDs or NetFlix anymore or I watch Repo Man over and over again. I watched 10 minutes of Big Bang Theory the other day and I can't believe that anyone is watching it without some kind of incentive or their families are being held hostage or something. TV is like religion to me, it's just not something that has a part in my life or something I really think about except when I post about how I don't have a TV.

I will say this, though. I am not trained to be around them any more. I can't ignore TVs in the wild. I wind up just staring.
 
2013-04-08 12:43:00 PM  
That is explains why the farkheads at FX have started putting ads in the shows they distribute digitally.  Now if you buy Archer off iTunes, Amazon, or Google Play you get the honor of forever storing HD ads on your hard drive for FX.

/apparently FX things I somehow forgot how torrents work just because I was playing nice and buying things legally
 
2013-04-08 12:43:25 PM  
Also, it's amazing how many people want to give you a TV when they find out that you don't have one. It's difficult for some people to wrap their head around that someone would choose to go without one.
 
2013-04-08 12:43:25 PM  
So if I'm reading this right...TV is slowly moving from being broadcast to being streamed over the internet.  And broadcasters are trying to come up with a way they can still get a cut, for not broadcasting.  Hm.
 
2013-04-08 12:44:25 PM  

santadog: Netflix.  That is all.


and torrents....
 
2013-04-08 12:44:28 PM  

albert71292: I cut the cord a little over two years ago, don't miss it at all. I find quite a bit to watch for free on the 18 over the air stations I get with my outdoor antenna. Also, I watch a lot of "TWiT" and "GFQ" online.

Not going to pay for any streaming services until I get faster bandwidth. Did the free 30-day Netflix trial, but cancelled before billing started, because of excess buffering.


Try this.
 
2013-04-08 12:45:15 PM  
The day I can get internet cheaper without basic cable than with is the day I cut the cord completely.
 
2013-04-08 12:45:51 PM  
I just signed up with cable again after a few years without, primarily for Game of Thrones and F1 broadcasts. And I've promptly rediscovered that TV sucks. There are LOTS of great TV shows out there, but with the sheer amount of content available through cable, they're few and far between, and I can't watch them when I want.

Google fiber is coming to town though, so after this season of GoT is over, I might hang loose and see what Time Warner is willing to do to keep me as a customer...
 
2013-04-08 12:46:03 PM  
addons.cdn.mozilla.net

Marketers fark off. Your advertising budget does not give you divine right to my attention.
 
2013-04-08 12:46:29 PM  
Somehow AT&T decided to trollolo myself right back to cable after hitting me up for an extra $40/month because of Netflix, Hulu Plus, and my friend's slingbox.  Real great service we have here in 'merica! >.<

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2013-04-08 12:47:03 PM  
I got rid of my TV five years ago.  I don't even do Hulu or Netflix.  If, for some godforsaken reason, I become desperate to know whether Don Draper has hooked up with Cersei Lannister then I will look it up on the internet.
 
2013-04-08 12:47:23 PM  

busy chillin': I picked up a free TV off of a curb a couple of years ago and then got another subscription from Dish so now I have 2 tvs next to each other and I just constantly watch reality shows and all that stuff.


lmao
 
2013-04-08 12:47:41 PM  

Endive Wombat: - Asking me to pay somewhere between $150-$200+ per month, plus $45 per month for high speed internet is insane! Especially considering of the ~500 or so available channels being offered, both my wife and I only watch maybe, MAYBE 10-15 of them.


Do some people actually pay that? I pay $110 for cable and internet with HBO and a DVR. I was considering cutting that down to just internet because it's too much. If someone threw the prices you're talking about at me, I'd have never even considered getting cable.
 
2013-04-08 12:48:39 PM  
i50.tinypic.com

I only keep cable for the porn. But I don't pay extra for it.
 
2013-04-08 12:49:12 PM  

Queensowntalia: 'Buttcracks of Bel-Air' is ok, but I prefer 'Wedgies of the West,'  the reality show about cowboys who wear their jeans too tight.


Netflix, Amazon Prime, Crackle

I haven't had cable in over a year, upped my TW cable to highest possible speed and still saving $75+ a month...

And if HBO would get off their high horse and open HBOGo to the general public, i'd even pay up to $15/month just for their service...

I think the fact that Game of Thrones was the highest downloaded show of all time should be a clear indicator that opening up GO to general admission would be in their financial best interest...
 
2013-04-08 12:49:19 PM  

thurstonxhowell: Endive Wombat: - Asking me to pay somewhere between $150-$200+ per month, plus $45 per month for high speed internet is insane! Especially considering of the ~500 or so available channels being offered, both my wife and I only watch maybe, MAYBE 10-15 of them.

Do some people actually pay that? I pay $110 for cable and internet with HBO and a DVR. I was considering cutting that down to just internet because it's too much. If someone threw the prices you're talking about at me, I'd have never even considered getting cable.


I pay $120/month for TWC 200, one HD DVR box, one basic analog cable drop, and 30mbps Internet.  I don't know how you could spend $200+/month without upgrading to the 50mbps TWC (or 105mpbs Comcast), or buying every sports package known to man.
 
2013-04-08 12:49:35 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: After over 10 years, I am kind of to the point where I don't even watch DVDs or NetFlix anymore or I watch Repo Man over and over again. I watched 10 minutes of Big Bang Theory the other day and I can't believe that anyone is watching it without some kind of incentive or their families are being held hostage or something. TV is like religion to me, it's just not something that has a part in my life or something I really think about except when I post about how I don't have a TV.

I will say this, though. I am not trained to be around them any more. I can't ignore TVs in the wild. I wind up just staring.


http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-constantly-mentioning-he-d oe snt-own-a-tel,429/
 
2013-04-08 12:49:49 PM  

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: I got rid of my TV five years ago.  I don't even do Hulu or Netflix.  If, for some godforsaken reason, I become desperate to know whether Don Draper has hooked up with Cersei Lannister then I will look it up on the internet.


Thanks, Area Man.
 
2013-04-08 12:49:55 PM  
History Channel, gone shiat.
Discovery, gone shiat
Even National Geographic, gone shiat.

I wonder why people are just giving up on TV...
 
2013-04-08 12:50:00 PM  
Bravo is the most useless channel on cable TV, and I include Lifetime in that assessment.
 
2013-04-08 12:50:00 PM  
I'm curious to hear what "Area Man" has to say about all this.
 
2013-04-08 12:50:36 PM  

giftedmadness: santadog: Netflix.  That is all.

and torrents....


and this paddle ball...
 
2013-04-08 12:50:38 PM  
When someone figures out how to put the Jeopardy! on the web without having Sony deliver a C&D every farking five minutes...
 
2013-04-08 12:51:41 PM  

jonr: History Channel, gone shiat.
Discovery, gone shiat
Even National Geographic, gone shiat.

I wonder why people are just giving up on TV...


I do H2 and The Science Channel now.  The only thing interesting on NatGeo is Alaska State Troopers, but that's just a redneck version of Cops.  At least H2 and TSC still show documentaries about space exploration and physics stuff.
 
2013-04-08 12:52:17 PM  
Their solution will probably involve  bribing making campaign contributions to enough congressmen to make net neutrality go away. Then they'll be free to seriously throttle traffic that might compete with cable (sorry, citizen, but Netflix only comes down our cable at 14.4 kbps). They aren't meeting to figure out how to adapt, these people are just as bad as RIAA and the MPAA.
 
2013-04-08 12:52:29 PM  

jimb213: Google fiber is coming to town though, so after this season of GoT is over, I might hang loose and see what Time Warner is willing to do to keep me as a customer...


Unless they are willing to send over an 18 year old Japanese girl to suck your dick nightly, you need tell Time Warner to fark off. Google fiber will kick ass.
 
2013-04-08 12:52:29 PM  
I pay $100+/ month for

>NatGeo Wild
> ESPN
> Cable News
> HBO - to see the occasional series like "Curb" and for Bill Maher
> DisneyXD - for the boy

*Sigh*
 
2013-04-08 12:52:30 PM  

Jument: My wife and I watch a lot of TV. Don't hate us, we also do marathons and triathlons and both have decent jobs. Anyways, I want to cut the cord because cable costs too damn much. Currently we have cable Tivos which are awesome, primarily because WAF is high and I rarely need to help my wife with anything.

The thing I'm worried about is that once the cord is cut our TV will come from a number of different sources. I am worried that my wife will not be happy and that I in turn will not be happy because I'm constantly going to have to help her. Is there a solution (perhaps Roku?) that I should be looking at to make cordless TV a pain-free experience?


PS3

Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, Crackle, Anime Alley, VUDU + Blue Ray, Dvd, and 3D, as well as able to view and play files from any windows media server or online cloud media server...
 
2013-04-08 12:52:50 PM  

rdyb: [addons.cdn.mozilla.net image 64x64]

Marketers fark off. Your advertising budget does not give you divine right to my attention.


Your attention is the product that television sold to the marketers.  The marketers are just trying to find a way to maximize what they've paid for.
 
2013-04-08 12:53:14 PM  
Ever since signals switched to digital I haven't been able to get a steady stream (i.e. a show will play for 5 seconds, pause for 10 seconds, play for another 5, etc...) I could build a gaudy monstrosity outside my apartment that might help me get a better signal, but I won't and I'm sure as hell not going to shell out for basic cable. All of the shows I've seen for the last few years have only been on Netflix, commercial free, and life has gone on just fine.

I do not miss the whole "one minute of commercials for every three minutes of programming" one bit.
 
2013-04-08 12:53:17 PM  
Only tv i watch is sports, and more often than not, i get it from the internet.
 
2013-04-08 12:53:19 PM  
I think there's a difference between TV and TV programming some people aren't making. I love watching TV shows. I don't love watching TV.

With Netflix (and other dubious legal resources) you get the show, and that's that. With TV you get the show and nonstop ads for the network's next Honey Boo Boo show and the latest "Best in Class" whatever car white noise and people drinking bud light on a fake beach it's just garbage.

I like having access to what I do like - i think plenty of sitcoms are fine and far from the "lowest" TV has to offer, like Parks and Rec and Curb and Always Sunny and Seinfeld. I don't like having all the rider shiat shoved down my throat in the meantime, like 5000 singing competitions where losers get voted off.

TV producers will never want to explore alternative pricing structures though. It means they have to change their perspective and it might mean they aren't the smartest guy in the room anymore. They can't stand that. The customer isn't right in their eyes.

/Haven't cut cord, but sports is the only reason
 
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