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2013-04-08 09:06:15 AM
Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:28 AM

Lord Summerisle: She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.


Scargill made it about ideology and he tried to bring down the government. In a domacracy he should of failed.

ElPresidente: Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.


We went from a society being held to ransom by the unions to a country being held to ransom by the bankers. One master being replaced by another.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:31 AM
There's no hate like liberal hate!
 
2013-04-08 09:06:38 AM

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


Any celebrations post 1990, seem a little unnecessary.
 
2013-04-08 09:07:18 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Why, has Obama started posting on Fark?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:07:21 AM

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:08:03 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.
 
2013-04-08 09:08:44 AM
Finally. About 25 years too late.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:07 AM

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


And smart doctors offer you a new prosthetic leg and get you back to work and a full life, not kick your injured arse out the hospital bed and tell you to get over it.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:40 AM
Had no idea she was still alive.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:53 AM

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Unfortunately, it's threads like these that give that kind of cliche traction.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:01 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


The idea that you voted for Obama is the funniest comment in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:07 AM
RIP, Baroness.

I may not agree with... well, almost any of your policies, but you lived an interesting life.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:18 AM
Does that mean we can drink milk again?
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM
My favorite song about Margaret Thatcher: Sinéad O'Connor - "Black Boys On Mopeds"
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM

yoursafewordisharder: Time to tramp the dirt down.


+1

/ was waiting for an Elvis Costello ref.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:30 AM
You want to see what would have happened to the American car industry if the Republicans got their way during the Recession? Thatcher's Britain. Under her management of the country, all the car companies either went out of business or were sold to foreign interests.

BMW of Germany owns Rolls-Royce and Mini. Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation owns MG. Tata Motors of India owns Jaguar and Land Rover. Volkswagen of Germany owns Bentley. Rights to many currently dormant brands, including Austin, Riley, Rover and Triumph, are also owned by foreign companies.

Anything not screwed down, she made sure was sold off. She ran on a platform of the Labour Party "not working" because unemployment was at half a million, and then her policies sent it to over two million. Reaganomics was ran at a faster pace than in the USA, and the ruination happened quicker.

The icing on the cake was Black Wednesday. The Conservatives (and their press, spearheaded by Rupert Murdoch and The Sun newspaper) bet that their policies would help the currency. One currency speculator bet against their policies. That speculator made a billion dollars in one day betting against Thatcher / Reaganomics. His name? George Soros. And now you know why Murdoch hates him with a seething passion... Soros was able, in an eight-hour stretch, to take every right-wing talking point (and they're still in use today) and call the bluff. And win. Conservatives are sore losers and bad with money.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:00 AM

d23: Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.

Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.


It was more like cut off the entire leg when its only the foot that had gangrene but the knee had ligament damage that could be fixed.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:19 AM
Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"
 
2013-04-08 09:11:54 AM

Marine1: Free Radical: Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.

Except they're the ones who collapsed. Other than that... you're dead-on right.

It was a "Cold War", and yes, the Soviet Union lost. Why? Because Western leaders (including, yes, Margaret Thatcher) enacted policies to put the Soviet Union at a disadvantage.


You're right.. they outspent the Soviets in the arms race.. that's some noble politicking there, Lou.
...And old Gorbachev had nothing to do with it .. I mean it's not like the Soviet Union could have struggled on and got into more of an economic mess thereby cultivating further extremist politics making the world a more dangerous place *koff* North Korea *koff*
 
2013-04-08 09:11:58 AM

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Don't be hatin' on me. I'm always right.
 
2013-04-08 09:12:25 AM
insight-fish.marel.com

RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM
shiat, make that 35. What year is it?
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM

czetie: A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.


You left out the part where she exacerbated the war in Ireland and allowed political prisoners & prisoners of war to die in hunger strikes rather than follow the Geneva Convention.
 
2013-04-08 09:14:50 AM
So, uh, where is the message from the Moderator reminding asshole Leftists to keep their comments respectful?


There's a reason why FARK.com is dying, you're just too stupid to figure it out.


Off to reddit! EABOD!
 
2013-04-08 09:15:19 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"


Hitchens was quite the warmonger at times, so I'm not surprised.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:26 AM
There goes the manliest leader Great Britain has had since William Wallace.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


The Liberals are in a coalition government with the Conservatives.

Seriously: do they not give ANY facts in [f]right[ened] wing sources?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:55 AM
What have we done?
Maggie, what have we done to England?
Should we shout?
Should we scream?
What happened to all of our post-war dreams?
Oh, Maggie, Maggie what did you do?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:59 AM
Wow....too many bitter assholes in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:14 AM
As an American who suffered through Reagan's death a few years back, I feel for you Brits. The next week will be filled with sanctimonious rubes praising her "toughness" and how she saved the world from the commies.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:22 AM
To hell with respect for the dead. I reckon she's worth about 10 minutes of heartfelt grieving before the celebrations start. There will be fireworks tonight - I know people who have been saving them up for just this occasion. Heinous biatch. I hope they bury her head down so she can't crawl out of her hole and terrorise us any more. Good riddance you hag.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:27 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified by a person's actions and not the gender of the person they're in love with or the color of their skin.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:47 AM

Crude: Off to reddit! EABOD!


So you can be downvoted into oblivion by 19 year old college liberals?
 
2013-04-08 09:17:13 AM
i284.photobucket.com
RIP Old Ironsides
 
2013-04-08 09:17:23 AM
img341.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-08 09:17:28 AM

GeneralJim: R.I.P.  Mrs. Thatcher.  You may not have saved your country, but you put off it's decline by a decade or more.


It`s things like this that have made me decide that jim is just the online presence for a stand up comic
 
2013-04-08 09:17:55 AM

Barnstormer: I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."


You probably know that that song was recorded by Bob Dylan fifteen years before she became Prime Minister, but just in case...

/honestly not trying to be snarky
//this time
 
2013-04-08 09:18:21 AM
RIP Tenacious Maggie Patcher

www.stamtavler.com
 
2013-04-08 09:18:47 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!


Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...
 
2013-04-08 09:18:50 AM

VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...


All she did was destroy the whole of British industry in the space of a decade and cripple the economy, military, and British power around the world, so she did a much better job at hurting the UK than the USSR ever did.
 
2013-04-08 09:19:04 AM

poot42: RIP Mrs Thatcher

There are too few of your ilk, and I fear for our children's future because of that void.


Yes, they may have to drink free milk at school...
 
2013-04-08 09:20:03 AM

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.



I was instrumental to the success of George W. Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom. Just because you personally haven't done shiat for freedom doesn't mean nobody has. Speak for yourself, brougham. Not dancin' on her grave. But come on, man. There's maudlin and then there's you.
 
2013-04-08 09:20:26 AM
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:21:24 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!

Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...


The same libs who admire Fidel Castro.
 
2013-04-08 09:21:39 AM

DeArmondVI: Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Does demonizing an opponent really make your world more just and helpful? Do people really believe that their way is the only way, and everyone who disagrees with them are just trying to hurt the world? It sure seems like it on Fark. I understand where the left is coming from. I understand where the right is coming from. There are no perfect solutions, just knowing when to balance things at the right time. People who demonize Thatcher and Reagan make me sick. People who demonize Ted Kennedy and Obama make me sick. No one gets into office with the goal of making the world a worse place. Why don't some of you try having some class sometime? We all have seen what happens when nations all agree on one ideology and think it their fate to spread it on everyone else.
 
2013-04-08 09:22:15 AM
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:22:18 AM
Rest in Peace.  Classy Lady
 
2013-04-08 09:22:36 AM
I'm sure her and Bobby Sands are enjoying a nice, big meal together now.
 
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