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2013-04-08 08:50:44 AM
She will arise in the Zombie Apocalypse and Zombie Thatcher and Zombie Reagan will again terrorize the world with brain eating and deficit spending.

Evil never dies, it only sleeps.
 
2013-04-08 08:50:47 AM
A lot of people don't remember the state the country was in when she came into power. The previous Labour government had been crippled by their own unions. The unions and Arthur Scargill were massively deleterious to the country. They had to be stopped. Also there seems to be some opinion that the Falklands war was either of her own manufacture, or a fortuitous something that saved her. Both are obviously wrong. You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies, yet he is one PM who you could justify taking to court for the shiat he did. The others were better at hiding it.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:08 AM
People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:13 AM

Jackson Herring: What an indescribable shiat she was.


I don't feel much sympathy for the miners. The NUM was a militant highly  political union which used its power and size to threaten democratically elected governments. They resisted all attempts to reform their industry and make it more profitable and in the end things came to a head.

Industrial relations reform was probably one of the better things the Conservatives did during that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:05 AM
www.astecinc.com

R.I.P IRON BATCHER
 
2013-04-08 08:52:16 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.


You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:33 AM

Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies


Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:09 AM

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.


You will be mocked for this.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing

Hatred of Margaret Thatcher is old news.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:28 AM

muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.


Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:40 AM
Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

/dumbass


From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:42 AM

Gulper Eel: Considering the mess Britain was in '78-79, can you blame the voters for tossing Callaghan out on his ass?

Protip for coal miners: don't go on strike during the winter.


You can't completely blame the miners, though; trying to control inflation through wage reduction is going to piss people off.

Though if they knew that their strike was going to result in the implementation of neo-liberal economics, they might have been willing to make a few concessions.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:47 AM

muck4doo: Stay classy libs.


The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:51 AM
czetie:Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.

As someone who was forced to drink a carton of milk every morning despite it making me feel sick every single day this is the one thing she did right!

/ Now diagnosed mildly lactose intolerant
// School grades went up when they stopped poisoning my daily!
 
2013-04-08 08:53:57 AM
She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.
 
2013-04-08 08:54:03 AM
Well, at least she'll be warm where she's headed.
 
2013-04-08 08:55:03 AM

digistil: At least Reagan now has some company in hell.


I said a similar thing on fark when Reagan died and I was banninated for 24 hours.  Back then you were not allowed to imagine right wing 80s leaders burning in hell on fark.  LOL
 
2013-04-08 08:55:10 AM
Please let Rupert Murdoch be next.
 
2013-04-08 08:56:46 AM

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Yes, but try to act surprised, you ruined it now.
 
2013-04-08 08:57:36 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

I have little sympathy for people who's life goal appears to make the world a worse place.


Well, that certainly is objective.  I understand you probably didn't like her policies, but making the blanket assumption that those policies display a specific INTENT to make the world a worse place it the kind of mental gymnastics that make political compromise nearly impossible these days. When people on the right, for example, accuse Obama of intentionally trying to destroy America, we on the left roll our eyes at the absurdity of such a thing. I, for one at least, can acknowledge the same absurdity in the opposite direction.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:25 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


That's the same thing the Reagan felaters all say here in the states, and it's BS here too.

Reagan and Thatcher had exactly as much to do with the fall of the Soviets that every other president and PM.  The soviets fell due to their own corruption, mismanagement, and ill treatment of their people.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:42 AM

Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.


The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM

Quinsisdos: Thanks for stealing my milk.



/thread
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Fantastic retort.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:04 AM
This thread is a great way to see who's British. I never knew there were this many.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:12 AM

Tomahawk513: randomjsa: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.

I'm all for dancing on her grave, go nuts!  Just don't get mad when someone dances on yours.


Well, that's certainly another way to go. At least it's consistent.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:24 AM

Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.


No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!
 
2013-04-08 08:59:29 AM
Even if you applauded her policies, even if you think that the miners' strike had to be broken by any means, even if you think privatisation is the only appropriate response to the use of state assets, there's still this:

news.bbc.co.uk

Margaret Thatcher with Augusto Pinochet, in 1999. Google 'DINA' if you don't know anything about Pinochet's time in government and/or you want to spend the day feeling nauseated.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM

muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM

doyner: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.


Sorry is I misunderstood.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:14 AM

swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.


exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:01:00 AM

Commander Lysdexic: Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.

No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!


Who said this?  Hint: no one.

We did say she played a part... but her philosophical butt-buddy Ronald Reagan sure helped...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:07 AM

swahnhennessy: whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher,


You farked up old hag, ha ha, charade you are
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost worth a quick grin
You like the feel of steel
You're hot stuff with a hat pin
And good fun with a hand gun
You're nearly a laugh
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Sounds like Thatcher to me.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:19 AM
Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:25 AM
I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."
 
2013-04-08 09:02:23 AM
Kudos to submitter on the headline.  Well played.

*golf clap*
 
2013-04-08 09:02:31 AM
R.I.P.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:03:20 AM

Haliburton Cummings: swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.

exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.


Well. despite how you interpret "Dogs," almost all of The Final Cut is directed at her and "Maggie" is invoked through many of the songs.

Last verse of "Not Now, John..."

fark all that we've got to get on with these
got to compete with the wily japanese
no need to worry about the vietnamese
got to bring the russian bear to his knees
well, maybe not the russian bear
maybe the swedes
we showed argentina
now let's go and show these
make us feel tough
and won't maggie be pleased
nah nah nah nah nah nah!
 
2013-04-08 09:03:52 AM
Yes, the "dancing on their grave" attitude is an easy trap to fall into.

Yes, you are a better person for avoiding it.

No, wanting to ensure there's an accurate historical assessment of someone's record even in the immediate post-death period where the public "mourns" is not excessive; it's entirely appropriate, because that's when a person's legacy starts really getting heavily filtered.

Without giving the obvious examples, there are very rare occasions where someone so vile and whose existence diminished us as a species dies, and it's tough not to savor the end of their existence.  For many Vietnam veterans, that was McNamara or Westmoreland.  For Romanians, it was Ceaușescu.  For Doctor Who fans, it will be Michael Ian Grade.

I was too young and an American, so I don't have the first-hand perspective of the British who lived during her Ministry.  But from historical analysis, I can understand and sympathize with the people who today feel their country is better off without her.  I'm sure the same will happen the day Americans find out Dick Cheney has died.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:40 AM
Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:43 AM
Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?
 
2013-04-08 09:04:45 AM
muck4doo:
Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.

We're cool.

While I don't necessarily agree with your charactarization of "libs" I certainly agree that dancing on Thatcher's grave is entirely tasteless.

Haliburton Cummings:
watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...

No need to call the hall monitor.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:15 AM

Lord Summerisle: Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.


THIS.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:36 AM
Evil people do seem to live longer, don't they? .. Driven by bitterness I'd guess
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM

Haliburton Cummings: jamspoon: Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating

THANKS! I POSTED THAT ALREADY!


Ah! Only checked thread for "witch is dead". I'm sure you'll forgive me on this glorious Spring day!
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Don't worry. Your vote has been posthumously converted by the Chuch of Latter Day Saints to a vote for Romney.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:04 AM

Jackpot777: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?


Welllll, it's a "We're not Labour" coalition.  Your statement generates an impression that the Lib Dems have something akin to "power", and I don't think that's an apt description for Clegg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:11 AM
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RIP WILLIAM THATCHER
 
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