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2013-04-08 08:08:18 AM
I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:37 AM
A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:41 AM
Thatcher?!  I don't even know 'er!
 
2013-04-08 08:08:44 AM
RIP. You were a badass.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:46 AM
Honestly thought she died years ago.
 
2013-04-08 08:08:53 AM
Just a few
 
2013-04-08 08:09:08 AM

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


Because she has moved on to a better place?
 
2013-04-08 08:09:16 AM
The Tony Blair of the Reagan years.

Bye, now.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:29 AM
Good night, you evil old witch.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:44 AM

neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?


No, the world did.
 
2013-04-08 08:09:47 AM
She had quite a life, certainly an exceptional human being.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:05 AM
At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-04-08 08:10:06 AM
it's time for that Thatcher Death Party then, I've been waiting a LONG time.
Back in the 90s I think consensus was that we'd all just congregate in central London and go crazy, but since then the Met have shown they don't really stand for that sort of thing so much. According to Google the party is 6pm the first Saturday after the event. I assume that London will be very much on lockdown this weekend now.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:31 AM
 "I owe nothing to women's lib."

 "The feminists hate me, don't they? And I don't blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."

What a shiat she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:31 AM
I think Lemmy best sums up my feelings on this matter.

link
 
2013-04-08 08:10:41 AM
The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money.

That's not the case with militarism, though.
 
2013-04-08 08:10:54 AM
Buhbye
 
2013-04-08 08:11:24 AM

neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?


So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?
 
2013-04-08 08:11:49 AM
I have a feeling some parts of England will go into mourning, and other parts will be celebrating.
 
2013-04-08 08:11:54 AM
 
2013-04-08 08:11:55 AM
I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.
 
2013-04-08 08:11:55 AM
May her ideas die with her.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:09 AM
I am reminded of Frankie Boyle:

"Her state funeral is going to cost nine million pounds. For that much money, you could buy a shovel and give it to every single Scottish person and we'd dig a hole deep enough that you could deliver her to Satan personally."
 
2013-04-08 08:12:10 AM
Meryl Streep needs to complete her role.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:22 AM
Huh. I thought she was already dead.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:28 AM
Wait... Margaret Thatcher was still alive? I thought she died like 15 years ago.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:30 AM
I'm guessing there will be mixed reactions to her passing.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:40 AM
Our long national nightmare is over
 
2013-04-08 08:12:47 AM
We're on our second bottle of champagne in this household.
Good riddance & a heartfelt fark you for what you did to our country.
 
2013-04-08 08:12:59 AM
I had a Thatcher boxing puppet many years ago. Whether you agreed with her politics or not, she was a tough lady.
 
2013-04-08 08:13:31 AM

greentea1985: I have a feeling very few parts of England will go into mourning, most will be celebrating.


.
 
2013-04-08 08:13:54 AM
bye, you nasty old biatch
 
2013-04-08 08:14:09 AM
quadrisonico.files.wordpress.com


Rust in Peace was a Megadeth album.

Stupid subby
 
2013-04-08 08:14:15 AM
Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.
 
2013-04-08 08:14:22 AM
RIP Maggie
content7.flixster.com
 
2013-04-08 08:14:51 AM
I expect this thread will contain the usual amounts of dignity and respect for the recently departed.

HotWingConspiracy: At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

[austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com image 550x282]


Jackson Herring: What a shiat she was.


Right again.
 
2013-04-08 08:14:57 AM
Well, this should be a nice calm respectful thread.

RIP Maggie, you provided a backbone when it was needed....
 
2013-04-08 08:15:01 AM

nekom: A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.


I won't be crass. I'm from another country and I was a child at that time, anyway. But her kind of divisive, inhumane politics influenced even my fair country.
s3.mugglenet.com
RIP Kreacher
 
2013-04-08 08:15:05 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-08 08:15:09 AM
i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2013-04-08 08:15:40 AM
 
2013-04-08 08:15:43 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...
 
2013-04-08 08:15:44 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


They were falling without her help, most of the threat of the USSR by that point was mis-intel by the CIA.
 
2013-04-08 08:15:53 AM
Libderp ludicrous speed!
 
2013-04-08 08:16:08 AM

DubtodaIll: She had quite a life, certainly an exceptional human being.


Yep
 
2013-04-08 08:16:11 AM

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


lmao
 
2013-04-08 08:16:18 AM
Just wait until she rises again three days from now, just like Zombie Reagan.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:23 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies.


No, she didn't. Neither did Reagan.

And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:36 AM
I did not see that coming.
 
2013-04-08 08:16:41 AM

GoldSpider: I expect this thread will contain the usual amounts of dignity and respect for the recently departed.

HotWingConspiracy: At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

[austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com image 550x282]

Jackson Herring: What a shiat she was.

Right again.


Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro
 
2013-04-08 08:16:49 AM
So, who won the pool?
 
2013-04-08 08:17:04 AM
RIP Maggie
www.toonsmag.com
 
2013-04-08 08:17:06 AM
"When England was a kingdom, we had a king. When we were an empire, we had an emperor. Now we're a country, and we have Margaret Thatcher."
 
2013-04-08 08:17:20 AM
public.sn2.livefilestore.com
 
2013-04-08 08:17:38 AM
Time to tramp the dirt down.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:00 AM
Quite a few pubs in the North and the West Britain will be celebrating tonight, I suspect.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:16 AM
media.tumblr.com

RIP
 
2013-04-08 08:18:19 AM
Shame. Was a good movie.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:21 AM
images.dangerousminds.net
 
2013-04-08 08:18:39 AM
Fare thee well, you solid biatch. The world is a better place because of your work.

She had more balls then most of the men in politics today.
 
2013-04-08 08:18:56 AM

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


Well, I'm sure all your punk rock friends were very knowledgeable about world politics.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:04 AM
www.thoseoldrecords.co.uk
 
2013-04-08 08:19:46 AM
assets.boomkat.com
 
2013-04-08 08:19:48 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro


Not now, I suppose.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:49 AM
Elvis Costello has his work cut out for him.
 
2013-04-08 08:19:53 AM
Pour concrete over the casket. You can never be too sure.
 
2013-04-08 08:20:00 AM
I think she's had dementia for quite a long time, probably is why folks assumed she'd already passed.

Anywhos...RIP?
 
2013-04-08 08:20:03 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 08:20:17 AM
Rest in peace, thatcher of roofs.
 
2013-04-08 08:20:32 AM
Lazy idiots of GB don't even realize that she was one of the best things that ever happened to this pathetic island.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:07 AM
Show the dead no respect they did not deserve in life. I will speak ill of the dead, and more of her than of most.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:09 AM

VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...


Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:09 AM

Purple_Jack: http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/


Nice. That would have made a much better headline.  "The Lady's not returning."
 
2013-04-08 08:21:24 AM
i.imgur.com


Rot you withered ol' c0o0ont!
 
2013-04-08 08:21:24 AM

markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.


They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.
 
2013-04-08 08:21:28 AM
www.sternfannetwork.com
RIP Teri Hatcher
 
2013-04-08 08:21:46 AM

It's like momma always said...if you can't say something nice, post RIP meme pics.

www.sommermaid.comincubatorwarehouse.com
RIP MARGARINE HATCHER
 
2013-04-08 08:22:03 AM
I hope they checked her breath with a mirror to make sure she's dead. And her reflection.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:09 AM
R.I.P.  Mrs. Thatcher.  You may not have saved your country, but you put off it's decline by a decade or more.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:18 AM
What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:32 AM

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.


Don't recall them ever launching any of them...
 
2013-04-08 08:22:45 AM
Thatcher refused to meet the union's demands and compared the miners' dispute to the Falklands conflict two years earlier, declaring in a speech in 1984: "We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty."

What an indescribable shiat she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:22:50 AM
PAARRTTAAYYY!!
 
2013-04-08 08:23:03 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.

They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.


But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall.  They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.
 
2013-04-08 08:23:19 AM
At least Reagan now has some company in hell.
 
2013-04-08 08:23:56 AM
This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:08 AM

VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...


Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:13 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 08:24:26 AM

GoldSpider: HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro

Not now, I suppose.


Well, it's not like she's going to say "No" at this point.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:27 AM

Purple_Jack: What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.


Ok, now THAT'S FUNNY.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:39 AM
Thatcher's Britain. Thatcher's bloody Britain! Look at me. I'm young, I'm pretty. I've got 5 O Levels. Bloomin' good grades as well, considering I didn't do a sod of work cause I'm so hard. And look at me now! Homeless, cold, and prostitute.
 
2013-04-08 08:24:57 AM
Get the champagne out.

Burn, you witch.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:01 AM

Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.


Yeah, she and Reagan started the whole craze of "trickling down" on the poor.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:01 AM
This coont does not deserve a News Flash.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:10 AM
Commies will be celebrating tonight.
 
2013-04-08 08:25:55 AM
Thanks for stealing my milk.

/Still bitter
 
2013-04-08 08:25:58 AM
Yikes!  It sounds like there are a few people here that weren't quite fond of her.
 
2013-04-08 08:26:01 AM

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?
 
2013-04-08 08:26:38 AM
Commies: "If only she would have let us screw up the world just right, we'd be fine right now. No one ever did it right".
 
2013-04-08 08:26:46 AM

Sybarite: Thatcher's Britain. Thatcher's bloody Britain! Look at me. I'm young, I'm pretty. I've got 5 O Levels. Bloomin' good grades as well, considering I didn't do a sod of work cause I'm so hard. And look at me now! Homeless, cold, and prostitute.


"I know all about dirt when I was a kid I had to eat it

And I'm never going back, do you here me ?"

"What ?"

"I SAID I'M NEVER GOING BACK"
 
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2013-04-08 08:26:53 AM

GoldSpider: HotWingConspiracy: Thatcher is never going to sleep with you bro

Not now, I suppose.


I hear she just became available.  If you have a shovel.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:06 AM
news.bbcimg.co.uk

RIP Thatched Roof
 
2013-04-08 08:27:06 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
 
2013-04-08 08:27:12 AM

Hagbardr: neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?

So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?


Is that where they are going to plant her? I think she should be buried in the Falklands.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:13 AM

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


So doesn't that mean they were evil by your measure?
 
2013-04-08 08:27:13 AM
i.annihil.us

RIP Ironman
 
2013-04-08 08:27:16 AM
Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:31 AM

Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.


And those tax breaks were funded by selling off nationalised utilities - gas, rail, etc...

Which now take more in subsidies (well, rail anyway) than they would have the state cost to run, yet pay out ever increasing dividends with ever increasing prices. It really would have been cheaper and simpler, never mind more honest, to just tax everyone an additional amount, divvy it up among those rich enough to buy shares in the scheme, and let the state carry on running these things.

But it/s not class war when the rich plunder the poor, is it?
 
2013-04-08 08:27:41 AM

PseUdononymous Savagery: Yikes!  It sounds like there are a few people here that weren't quite fond of her.


It's fark. They still believe in antiquated things, like communism.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:55 AM

Halli: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?


Yeah. That they could have launched at any time.
 
2013-04-08 08:27:59 AM
RIP
t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-04-08 08:28:03 AM
This would be the perfect time to link to Frankie Boyle on Thatcher's Funeral....
 
2013-04-08 08:28:06 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.


Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:07 AM
Someone wants attention.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:22 AM

Jackson Herring:  "I owe nothing to women's lib."

 "The feminists hate me, don't they? And I don't blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison."

What a shiat she was.


The moment we start dividing ourselves into blacks OR whites, men OR women, Christians OR Musslemen when regarding laws or communications the polarities are set to begin some kind of war, hatred, or abuse.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:28 AM
www.armenianweekly.com
Not dead
 
2013-04-08 08:28:47 AM
It is somehow comforting to know that she was survived by Nelson Mandela
 
2013-04-08 08:28:53 AM

Marine1: Halli: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?

Yeah. That they could have launched at any time.


Man good thing the Soviet Union didn't exist before the 80's then.
 
2013-04-08 08:28:58 AM
RIP, warmonger.
 
2013-04-08 08:29:08 AM
So I guess none of you find power sexy?
 
2013-04-08 08:29:44 AM
Am I really the first to go here? Margret Thatcher naked on a cold day.
 
2013-04-08 08:29:50 AM
Eh... Whatever. Strangers die every day.

Felt the same way about her I felt about Reagan. Just another plutocratic asshole, who didn't give a shiat about people like my family and I.
 
2013-04-08 08:29:53 AM
i.imgur.com


RIP THAT CHER
 
2013-04-08 08:30:00 AM
 
2013-04-08 08:30:10 AM
Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.
 
2013-04-08 08:30:12 AM
I remember how disgusted I became whenever I saw her standing with Ronald Reagannnnzzzap.

/two peas in a pod
//Stateside
 
2013-04-08 08:30:25 AM

digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.


No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well
 
2013-04-08 08:30:28 AM
Looks like this is the thread where all the Argentinians are hanging out.
 
2013-04-08 08:30:42 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.

Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.


Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 08:30:53 AM
ichef.bbci.co.uk

My favorite song lyrics about Margaret Thatcher, from Julian Cope.

"Now's a time of leper skin
How it ends, how it begins
Now's a time when patience flies
The fare-the-well that means fark OFF."

I hope we get the celebration over quickly because it makes me sick.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:16 AM

Norfolking Chance: digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.

No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well


Watching BBC right now and they've reported otherwise.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:39 AM

Marine1: Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.


Yeah Team B was hilariously wrong about the Soviet Union. They were crumbling long before the 80's.
 
2013-04-08 08:32:58 AM
In which mine will they be tossing her corpse?
 
2013-04-08 08:33:21 AM
I loved her.  I always will.  She chose her battles well. Not only as woman in a mans world of politics did she hold her ground, but in an era of such ego and hubris, she made lambs out the ludicrous. 

The world lost a really wonderful woman today, and I can't see any person in the near future, male or female, who could even begin to replicate her prowess. 

*Cries*
 
2013-04-08 08:33:46 AM

Free Radical: Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.


Except they're the ones who collapsed. Other than that... you're dead-on right.

It was a "Cold War", and yes, the Soviet Union lost. Why? Because Western leaders (including, yes, Margaret Thatcher) enacted policies to put the Soviet Union at a disadvantage.
 
2013-04-08 08:33:52 AM
Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.
 
2013-04-08 08:33:55 AM
My wife and I were just getting out of a movie (I don't remember which one) when we walked past a poster for Iron Lady.  I made an offhand comment that it was basically Iron Man, but with a girl.  My wife did not know that Margaret Thatcher was known as the iron lady, so we went to see Iron Lady.  To my wife's credit she didn't complain at all during the movie.  She said she figured out that it wasn't about a girl Iron Man about 2 minutes in.  She did say that, in the future, she would look up any movies I wanted to see that she didn't already know about.

This was the poster.

collider.com
 
2013-04-08 08:34:34 AM
The only rebuttal you need offer someone who says "women cannot be good leaders" is a slap across the face with a rolled-up:
img.timeinc.net
 
2013-04-08 08:34:36 AM
As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.
 
2013-04-08 08:34:42 AM
A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.
 
2013-04-08 08:34:57 AM
I find it ironic that punk died years before Maggie did.

/Maggie! Maggie, you coont!
 
2013-04-08 08:35:06 AM

digistil: Norfolking Chance: digistil: Cameron has announced she's getting a funeral of the level a king or queen.

No, it will be at the level of a Princess.

Blair would get the same when he finally pays for his shiat as well

Watching BBC right now and they've reported otherwise.


From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen
 
2013-04-08 08:35:23 AM
Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.
 
2013-04-08 08:35:39 AM
IMDB : "Ian McDiarmid to play young Thatcher in bio pick of the late PM as a teen."
 
2013-04-08 08:36:16 AM
Brezhnev took Afganistan, and Begin took Beruit, and Galtieri, he took the union jack, and Maggie over lunch one day took a cruiser (with all hands) apparently to make him give it back... good times.
 
2013-04-08 08:36:24 AM

Purple_Jack: What have Thatcher and Savile got in common?

-They both screwed miners.


Oh, well played.  Well played.
 
2013-04-08 08:36:45 AM

Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.


iswydt
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 08:36:48 AM

Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.


I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.
 
2013-04-08 08:37:43 AM
Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating
 
2013-04-08 08:38:11 AM

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


I'm waiting for Bruce Robinson to weigh in.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:27 AM

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


I don't think he had much love for the old bird.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:29 AM
Also, Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.
 
2013-04-08 08:38:37 AM
i.imgur.com

                       RIP
 
2013-04-08 08:38:54 AM

jamspoon: Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating


THANKS! I POSTED THAT ALREADY!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 08:39:05 AM

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


I am not "dancing on her grave" today.  Every human death is a tragedy, especially to that particular family.  The problem here is she did some pretty horrible stuff in her time.  Even worse than Reagan, because he was a bumbler.  She did what she did on purpose and I am not a fan.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:00 AM
Well...Bye.jpeg

What a piece of excremental hideous evil poison she was.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:06 AM

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:21 AM
I was brought up with the philosophy that if you can't say something nice about someone, say nothing at all.

So this is me saying sweet fark all.

In other news, the queue of people in the UK who are now saving their urine in large bottles to pour over her grave has already begun.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:26 AM
Well, bye then.

She and Reagan can eat dick sandwiches in hell.
 
2013-04-08 08:40:49 AM
i.imgur.com

How I will always remember her.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:18 AM
on the minus side :
she trashed our industry and manufacturing base and left us at the beck and call of a bunch of odious bankers. for that may she rot in hell.

on the plus side:
she gave Argentina a bloody nose. (well our armed forces did that) but i doubt Labour would have sent the taskforce south.

I truly dread the week of sanctimonious drivel that will now follow.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:21 AM
I love all the hate in this thread... justifies my thoughts on (the lack of) humanity. Even when Obama dies, I won't be hateful..

/I'm a better person than any Repub or Dem
 
2013-04-08 08:41:34 AM
Norfolking Chance:

From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen


Doh, you're right. Thanks for correcting me.
 
2013-04-08 08:41:59 AM

doyner: Looks like this is the thread where all the Argentinians are hanging out.


You can turn your Phalanx off. These are not the Exocets you're looking for.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:24 AM
mimg.ugo.com

Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day! Margaret Thatcher naked on a cold day!
 
2013-04-08 08:42:31 AM

d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.


i.imgur.com

This is how Roger Waters is feeling. This is how Roger Waters is ALWAYS feeling.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:48 AM

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


This pretty much sums up 99% of the opinions people have of Margaret Thatcher they are based on the second hand thoughts of people vastly unqualified to make an intelligent or relevant judgement in the first place.
 
2013-04-08 08:42:56 AM
Considering the mess Britain was in '78-79, can you blame the voters for tossing Callaghan out on his ass?

Protip for coal miners: don't go on strike during the winter.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:26 AM

MyKingdomForYourHorse: markfara: And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.

They are no where near the global player they once used to be and lack total exerted control over many of their border nation states.

I'd say that's pretty much the definition of fallen.


Except for that time they beat the f*ck out of Georgia because they could. Or the time when they beat the f*ck out of the Chechens. Or when they threaten to shut off the gas lines when any former Soviet satellite b*tches about Gazprom's rates. Or when Belarus is happily acting as Putin's pet.

Russia wields plenty of power still in Eastern Europe and Asia. It's mainly soft power now. Putin is smarter than the Commies. He gave up that whole revolution bullsh*t, and realized what matters to people is money, plain and simple. So he's set himself up to control the money.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:38 AM
Hairspray companies fall into deep depression.
 
2013-04-08 08:43:43 AM
A good movie in here life:   GLC: The Carnage Continues...
 
2013-04-08 08:44:03 AM
She probably would have reached 100 if she'd drunk more milk.
 
2013-04-08 08:44:08 AM

clintster: Not dead


Dammit!
 
2013-04-08 08:44:19 AM
If Clueless George had waited a few weeks he could have sold round two of the most socially divisive policy in British post-war history as a loving tribute to Mrs. T's corrosive legacy.

Lord Summerisle: Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.


But aside from that?
 
2013-04-08 08:44:35 AM

Demetrius: d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.

I don't think he had much love for the old bird.


But she so bravely waved the boys goodbye, again and again...
 
2013-04-08 08:44:47 AM

digistil: Norfolking Chance:

From the BBC

Breaking NewsDowning Street says Lady Thatcher will be accorded the same status of funeral as the Queen Mother and Princess Diana, but will not lie in state, in accordance with her own wishes.

So the same as Dianna or the Queen Mother and not a King or Queen

Doh, you're right. Thanks for correcting me.


The Queen Mum WAS a queen.  Just sayin'
 
2013-04-08 08:44:57 AM
Even if she has a set of letters that don't get published until after she passes, I really hope the Queen serves history and leaves us a better understanding of what discord if any developed between her and the Thatcher Ministry.  I wonder if she became frustrated with Thatcher's policies or just her attitude towards people.

Marine1: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: But again, Thatcher had nothing to do with it, her actions did nothing to hasten their fall. They were spending over 1/3 of their GDP on defense, it was completely unsustainable.

Perhaps not directly, but the actions of the many western nations which forced that hand into spending for said defense helped speed things along.

Speaking of spending a third on defense, that sounds familiar for some reason.

Actually, that is directly impacting the fall of the Soviet Union. If the Soviets had been left to their own devices, they would have spent money on other things. The West knew that their economies were more dynamic; they used that to their advantage.


The biggest debate in my undergrad major (an odd hybrid of military history and national security) was, "Was the Revolution in Military Affairs responsible for the end of the Cold War, and can it be the foundation of a viable military doctrine for the future?"

/Our consensus in 2004 was "Yes, to a certain extent" and "Yes, if you are willing to by into what Donald Rumsfeld says about numbers being irrelevant."
//We had almost wrapped up for the semester when the escalation in Fallujah began; that should have been the sign for those of us that supported the war that our narrative did not line up with reality.
 
2013-04-08 08:44:57 AM
Ah, the only true justice: age.

The old crazy bastard of a woman that she was finally got her due justice.

May she go down forever as being known as the primary reason for UK political problems for the last 30 years, and may her family receive all the spite that she earned plus interest.
 
2013-04-08 08:45:38 AM
I won't celebrate the death of another human being, but I certainly won't mourn her or the policies she represented.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:03 AM

Hagbardr: neversubmit: I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.

Because she has moved on to a better place?

So, that wouldn't include Leeds or Hull?


Hey now, don't go knocking Hull. It has one nice square in that city! Leeds, not so much.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:15 AM

Ecobuckeye: Demetrius: d23: Demetrius: Did she die at the Fletcher Memorial Home?  Seems she didn't make the Final Cut.

I do wonder how Roger Waters feels today.

I don't think he had much love for the old bird.

But she so bravely waved the boys goodbye, again and again...


Should we shout?  Should we scream?  What happened to the postwar dream?
 
2013-04-08 08:46:16 AM
Good luck now, and fark ya.

Nasty piece of work.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:18 AM
They could bury her in one of Britain's many derelict coal mines in the spirit of irony or sumpn'.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:32 AM
Sic semper tyrannis
 
2013-04-08 08:46:36 AM

randomjsa: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.


I'm all for dancing on her grave, go nuts!  Just don't get mad when someone dances on yours.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:44 AM
Stay classy libs.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:56 AM

theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.


I have little sympathy for people who's life goal appears to make the world a worse place.
 
2013-04-08 08:46:57 AM
oh boo hoo hoo stop pointing out how clownishly evil the recently departed was :(
 
2013-04-08 08:47:11 AM
RIP Mrs Thatcher

There are too few of your ilk, and I fear for our children's future because of that void.
 
2013-04-08 08:47:26 AM

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


It was Carter that moved a bunch of medium range missiles to Europe which scared the crap out of the Soviets.
 
2013-04-08 08:47:48 AM
Party time for England now that the lizard queen puppet meister has finally croaked. Ahhhhhhhh. a joyous day indeed!
 
2013-04-08 08:47:56 AM
guys stop acknowledging objective observable reality, it's mean
 
2013-04-08 08:48:32 AM
www.sportscollectorsdaily.com
                    RIP Steel Curtain
 
2013-04-08 08:48:39 AM

muck4doo: Stay classy libs.


Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.
 
2013-04-08 08:48:41 AM
Imma let you finish, but I just wanna say, the exploited wrote the best tribute to Margaret Thatcher of all time.

http://youtu.be/EwnkFlVRCZc

Enjoy!
 
2013-04-08 08:49:01 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-08 08:49:06 AM
None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.
 
2013-04-08 08:49:37 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: Eskurido: This snippet from the CBC article about her death says all you really need to know about her:

"Once in office Thatcher slashed the tax rates for the wealthiest Britons, increased the value-added tax (VAT), reduced government subsidies and began to sell off state-owned enterprises and public housing."

Bye-bye, you short sighted conservative twit.

Yeah, she and Reagan started the whole craze of "trickling down" on the poor.


Plenty of stuff is "trickling down" on the poor, it's just that none of it is money.

/think urine from a great height
 
2013-04-08 08:49:56 AM
RIP Kitty Scratcher

www.moderncat.net
 
2013-04-08 08:50:06 AM
No.10 has gone into absolute overdrive to pump out news to be buried today.
 
2013-04-08 08:50:44 AM
She will arise in the Zombie Apocalypse and Zombie Thatcher and Zombie Reagan will again terrorize the world with brain eating and deficit spending.

Evil never dies, it only sleeps.
 
2013-04-08 08:50:47 AM
A lot of people don't remember the state the country was in when she came into power. The previous Labour government had been crippled by their own unions. The unions and Arthur Scargill were massively deleterious to the country. They had to be stopped. Also there seems to be some opinion that the Falklands war was either of her own manufacture, or a fortuitous something that saved her. Both are obviously wrong. You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies, yet he is one PM who you could justify taking to court for the shiat he did. The others were better at hiding it.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:08 AM
People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.
 
2013-04-08 08:51:13 AM

Jackson Herring: What an indescribable shiat she was.


I don't feel much sympathy for the miners. The NUM was a militant highly  political union which used its power and size to threaten democratically elected governments. They resisted all attempts to reform their industry and make it more profitable and in the end things came to a head.

Industrial relations reform was probably one of the better things the Conservatives did during that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:05 AM
www.astecinc.com

R.I.P IRON BATCHER
 
2013-04-08 08:52:16 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.


You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.
 
2013-04-08 08:52:33 AM

Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies


Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:09 AM

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.


You will be mocked for this.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:18 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing

Hatred of Margaret Thatcher is old news.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:28 AM

muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.


Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:40 AM
Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

/dumbass


From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:42 AM

Gulper Eel: Considering the mess Britain was in '78-79, can you blame the voters for tossing Callaghan out on his ass?

Protip for coal miners: don't go on strike during the winter.


You can't completely blame the miners, though; trying to control inflation through wage reduction is going to piss people off.

Though if they knew that their strike was going to result in the implementation of neo-liberal economics, they might have been willing to make a few concessions.
 
2013-04-08 08:53:47 AM

muck4doo: Stay classy libs.


The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?
 
2013-04-08 08:53:51 AM
czetie:Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.

As someone who was forced to drink a carton of milk every morning despite it making me feel sick every single day this is the one thing she did right!

/ Now diagnosed mildly lactose intolerant
// School grades went up when they stopped poisoning my daily!
 
2013-04-08 08:53:57 AM
She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.
 
2013-04-08 08:54:03 AM
Well, at least she'll be warm where she's headed.
 
2013-04-08 08:55:03 AM

digistil: At least Reagan now has some company in hell.


I said a similar thing on fark when Reagan died and I was banninated for 24 hours.  Back then you were not allowed to imagine right wing 80s leaders burning in hell on fark.  LOL
 
2013-04-08 08:55:10 AM
Please let Rupert Murdoch be next.
 
2013-04-08 08:56:46 AM

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Yes, but try to act surprised, you ruined it now.
 
2013-04-08 08:57:36 AM

Tyrone Slothrop: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

I have little sympathy for people who's life goal appears to make the world a worse place.


Well, that certainly is objective.  I understand you probably didn't like her policies, but making the blanket assumption that those policies display a specific INTENT to make the world a worse place it the kind of mental gymnastics that make political compromise nearly impossible these days. When people on the right, for example, accuse Obama of intentionally trying to destroy America, we on the left roll our eyes at the absurdity of such a thing. I, for one at least, can acknowledge the same absurdity in the opposite direction.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:25 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


That's the same thing the Reagan felaters all say here in the states, and it's BS here too.

Reagan and Thatcher had exactly as much to do with the fall of the Soviets that every other president and PM.  The soviets fell due to their own corruption, mismanagement, and ill treatment of their people.
 
2013-04-08 08:58:42 AM

Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.


The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM

Quinsisdos: Thanks for stealing my milk.



/thread
 
2013-04-08 08:58:56 AM

EyeballKid: Slaxl: You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Why, is somebody coming to poke my eyes out?


Fantastic retort.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:04 AM
This thread is a great way to see who's British. I never knew there were this many.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:12 AM

Tomahawk513: randomjsa: theknuckler_33: As a libby lib leftists, albeit here in the states, I am always saddened when people who seem to agree with me, politically, rightfully point out the disgusting nature of personal attacks on people we support who then gleefully turn around and do the very same thing to those we do not support. Dancing on her grave is farking disgusting.

Pretty much this.

I'm not even bothered by the 'dance on your grave' behavior as much as the 'we did it but how dare you do it' behavior.

I'm all for dancing on her grave, go nuts!  Just don't get mad when someone dances on yours.


Well, that's certainly another way to go. At least it's consistent.
 
2013-04-08 08:59:24 AM

Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.


No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!
 
2013-04-08 08:59:29 AM
Even if you applauded her policies, even if you think that the miners' strike had to be broken by any means, even if you think privatisation is the only appropriate response to the use of state assets, there's still this:

news.bbc.co.uk

Margaret Thatcher with Augusto Pinochet, in 1999. Google 'DINA' if you don't know anything about Pinochet's time in government and/or you want to spend the day feeling nauseated.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM

muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:08 AM

doyner: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Wow.  Good job alienating someone who was agreeing with you.


Sorry is I misunderstood.
 
2013-04-08 09:00:14 AM

swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.


exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:01:00 AM

Commander Lysdexic: Norfolking Chance: People are making it look like Britain was a paradise before Thatcher was elected.

Britain was in a massive farking hole at the time and she was just as extreme as the Union leaders.

No! You don't understand! Clearly the current global economic mess is purely the result of Thatchers policies!

If only Britain had ceded all legislative authority to Brussels and let the unions run the country, we'd be in a paradise!


Who said this?  Hint: no one.

We did say she played a part... but her philosophical butt-buddy Ronald Reagan sure helped...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:07 AM

swahnhennessy: whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher,


You farked up old hag, ha ha, charade you are
You radiate cold shafts of broken glass
You're nearly a good laugh
Almost worth a quick grin
You like the feel of steel
You're hot stuff with a hat pin
And good fun with a hand gun
You're nearly a laugh
You're nearly a laugh
But you're really a cry.

Sounds like Thatcher to me.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:09 AM

doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.


watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...
 
2013-04-08 09:01:19 AM
Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.
 
2013-04-08 09:01:25 AM
I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."
 
2013-04-08 09:02:23 AM
Kudos to submitter on the headline.  Well played.

*golf clap*
 
2013-04-08 09:02:31 AM
R.I.P.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:03:20 AM

Haliburton Cummings: swahnhennessy: Haliburton Cummings:yeah. that's about Mary Whitehouse, not Thatcher...

From your link:

According to one interpretation, the first verse's "pig man" refers to business n general (but see Dogs), , whereas the second verse indirectly refers to conservative politician Margaret Thatcher, leader of the opposition at that time.

exactly...not Waters interpretation....citations please.


Well. despite how you interpret "Dogs," almost all of The Final Cut is directed at her and "Maggie" is invoked through many of the songs.

Last verse of "Not Now, John..."

fark all that we've got to get on with these
got to compete with the wily japanese
no need to worry about the vietnamese
got to bring the russian bear to his knees
well, maybe not the russian bear
maybe the swedes
we showed argentina
now let's go and show these
make us feel tough
and won't maggie be pleased
nah nah nah nah nah nah!
 
2013-04-08 09:03:52 AM
Yes, the "dancing on their grave" attitude is an easy trap to fall into.

Yes, you are a better person for avoiding it.

No, wanting to ensure there's an accurate historical assessment of someone's record even in the immediate post-death period where the public "mourns" is not excessive; it's entirely appropriate, because that's when a person's legacy starts really getting heavily filtered.

Without giving the obvious examples, there are very rare occasions where someone so vile and whose existence diminished us as a species dies, and it's tough not to savor the end of their existence.  For many Vietnam veterans, that was McNamara or Westmoreland.  For Romanians, it was Ceaușescu.  For Doctor Who fans, it will be Michael Ian Grade.

I was too young and an American, so I don't have the first-hand perspective of the British who lived during her Ministry.  But from historical analysis, I can understand and sympathize with the people who today feel their country is better off without her.  I'm sure the same will happen the day Americans find out Dick Cheney has died.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:40 AM
Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.
 
2013-04-08 09:04:43 AM
Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?
 
2013-04-08 09:04:45 AM
muck4doo:
Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.

We're cool.

While I don't necessarily agree with your charactarization of "libs" I certainly agree that dancing on Thatcher's grave is entirely tasteless.

Haliburton Cummings:
watch the "personal attacks" now....name calling...

No need to call the hall monitor.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:15 AM

Lord Summerisle: Yeah, thanks for destroying the social fabric of this country, selling off the vast state assets owned by the taxpayer to your big-business donors, destroying manufacturing industry and cosseting the banking mafia, sending London pigs to club striking miners in my town, encouraging greed and selfishness. Saved by a convenient war.


THIS.
 
2013-04-08 09:05:36 AM
Evil people do seem to live longer, don't they? .. Driven by bitterness I'd guess
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM

Haliburton Cummings: jamspoon: Ding ♫ dong ♫ the witch is dead!! ♪

http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/ now with added YES!

Also contains a link to a Spotify playlist for those who are celebrating

THANKS! I POSTED THAT ALREADY!


Ah! Only checked thread for "witch is dead". I'm sure you'll forgive me on this glorious Spring day!
 
2013-04-08 09:05:47 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Don't worry. Your vote has been posthumously converted by the Chuch of Latter Day Saints to a vote for Romney.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:04 AM

Jackpot777: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

The Libs are in power with the Tories. Where have YOU been the last few years?


Welllll, it's a "We're not Labour" coalition.  Your statement generates an impression that the Lib Dems have something akin to "power", and I don't think that's an apt description for Clegg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:11 AM
25.media.tumblr.com
RIP WILLIAM THATCHER
 
2013-04-08 09:06:15 AM
Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:28 AM

Lord Summerisle: She destroyed the mining industry for ideological reasons. We now import coal... From Australia.


Scargill made it about ideology and he tried to bring down the government. In a domacracy he should of failed.

ElPresidente: Anyone who has not lived in Britain, especially under her rule, has no absolutely moral or intellectual right to say how wonderful she was.  That "woman" took a golden opportunity to heal a nation, and spent 11 years finding new and exciting ways to divide it as deeply and as often as she could.  The only reasons she stayed in power was by regularly promoting fear within her party in Parliament through Cabinet sackings and reshuffles, very weak and fluctuating opposition parties and leaders, and conveniently manufacturing a war through informed inertia when her poll numbers were at the lowest point, and later surfing off the back of that "victory" by calling an election a year early.

The general glee in the British public today is not liberals versus conservatives - it's painful memories finally being buried with their selfish, blinkered, misguided bully of an author and executor.  I do not believe in a deity, Heaven or Hell, but I, for one, am truly glad this chapter is over.  Bury her quickly, bury her somewhere anonymous to all except family, and bury her deep and face down in case she tries to dig her way back out.


We went from a society being held to ransom by the unions to a country being held to ransom by the bankers. One master being replaced by another.
 
2013-04-08 09:06:31 AM
There's no hate like liberal hate!
 
2013-04-08 09:06:38 AM

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


Any celebrations post 1990, seem a little unnecessary.
 
2013-04-08 09:07:18 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Why, has Obama started posting on Fark?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:07:21 AM

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-04-08 09:08:03 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.
 
2013-04-08 09:08:44 AM
Finally. About 25 years too late.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:07 AM

Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.


And smart doctors offer you a new prosthetic leg and get you back to work and a full life, not kick your injured arse out the hospital bed and tell you to get over it.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:40 AM
Had no idea she was still alive.
 
2013-04-08 09:09:53 AM

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Unfortunately, it's threads like these that give that kind of cliche traction.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:01 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


The idea that you voted for Obama is the funniest comment in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:07 AM
RIP, Baroness.

I may not agree with... well, almost any of your policies, but you lived an interesting life.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:18 AM
Does that mean we can drink milk again?
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM
My favorite song about Margaret Thatcher: Sinéad O'Connor - "Black Boys On Mopeds"
 
2013-04-08 09:10:20 AM

yoursafewordisharder: Time to tramp the dirt down.


+1

/ was waiting for an Elvis Costello ref.
 
2013-04-08 09:10:30 AM
You want to see what would have happened to the American car industry if the Republicans got their way during the Recession? Thatcher's Britain. Under her management of the country, all the car companies either went out of business or were sold to foreign interests.

BMW of Germany owns Rolls-Royce and Mini. Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation owns MG. Tata Motors of India owns Jaguar and Land Rover. Volkswagen of Germany owns Bentley. Rights to many currently dormant brands, including Austin, Riley, Rover and Triumph, are also owned by foreign companies.

Anything not screwed down, she made sure was sold off. She ran on a platform of the Labour Party "not working" because unemployment was at half a million, and then her policies sent it to over two million. Reaganomics was ran at a faster pace than in the USA, and the ruination happened quicker.

The icing on the cake was Black Wednesday. The Conservatives (and their press, spearheaded by Rupert Murdoch and The Sun newspaper) bet that their policies would help the currency. One currency speculator bet against their policies. That speculator made a billion dollars in one day betting against Thatcher / Reaganomics. His name? George Soros. And now you know why Murdoch hates him with a seething passion... Soros was able, in an eight-hour stretch, to take every right-wing talking point (and they're still in use today) and call the bluff. And win. Conservatives are sore losers and bad with money.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:00 AM

d23: Flint Ironstag: Margaret Thatcher was the best PM we've had since Churchill.

Britain was already written off by everyone and in terminal decline when she came to power. She was like the doctor who cuts off your leg because you have gangrene. Sensible people would thank them for saving their life. Stupid people blame them for losing their leg.

Who represents gangrene in this argument??  I'm pretty sure it's a WHO and not a WHAT.


It was more like cut off the entire leg when its only the foot that had gangrene but the knee had ligament damage that could be fixed.
 
2013-04-08 09:11:19 AM
Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"
 
2013-04-08 09:11:54 AM

Marine1: Free Radical: Marine1:

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Ahhh the testosterone-filled fantasies of a conservative.

You do realize that the same exact thing could be said about the USSR right? Because of their leaders, Reagan and Thatcher were too afraid to launch their nukes.

Except they're the ones who collapsed. Other than that... you're dead-on right.

It was a "Cold War", and yes, the Soviet Union lost. Why? Because Western leaders (including, yes, Margaret Thatcher) enacted policies to put the Soviet Union at a disadvantage.


You're right.. they outspent the Soviets in the arms race.. that's some noble politicking there, Lou.
...And old Gorbachev had nothing to do with it .. I mean it's not like the Soviet Union could have struggled on and got into more of an economic mess thereby cultivating further extremist politics making the world a more dangerous place *koff* North Korea *koff*
 
2013-04-08 09:11:58 AM

d23: Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

There's no projectionist cliche like a conservative cliche.


Don't be hatin' on me. I'm always right.
 
2013-04-08 09:12:25 AM
insight-fish.marel.com

RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM
shiat, make that 35. What year is it?
 
2013-04-08 09:13:06 AM

czetie: A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.


You left out the part where she exacerbated the war in Ireland and allowed political prisoners & prisoners of war to die in hunger strikes rather than follow the Geneva Convention.
 
2013-04-08 09:14:50 AM
So, uh, where is the message from the Moderator reminding asshole Leftists to keep their comments respectful?


There's a reason why FARK.com is dying, you're just too stupid to figure it out.


Off to reddit! EABOD!
 
2013-04-08 09:15:19 AM

Mrs.Sharpier: Hitchens reflected he'd supported Margaret Thatcher in the matter of the Falklands War and had written that he found her "surprisingly sexy." At one meeting, the woman who would become Britain's Prime Minister ordered the writer to bend over so she could spank him with a rolled up newspaper, afterwards mouthing the words "naughty boy!"


Hitchens was quite the warmonger at times, so I'm not surprised.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:26 AM
There goes the manliest leader Great Britain has had since William Wallace.
 
2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-08 09:15:35 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


The Liberals are in a coalition government with the Conservatives.

Seriously: do they not give ANY facts in [f]right[ened] wing sources?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:55 AM
What have we done?
Maggie, what have we done to England?
Should we shout?
Should we scream?
What happened to all of our post-war dreams?
Oh, Maggie, Maggie what did you do?
 
2013-04-08 09:15:59 AM
Wow....too many bitter assholes in this thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:14 AM
As an American who suffered through Reagan's death a few years back, I feel for you Brits. The next week will be filled with sanctimonious rubes praising her "toughness" and how she saved the world from the commies.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:22 AM
To hell with respect for the dead. I reckon she's worth about 10 minutes of heartfelt grieving before the celebrations start. There will be fireworks tonight - I know people who have been saving them up for just this occasion. Heinous biatch. I hope they bury her head down so she can't crawl out of her hole and terrorise us any more. Good riddance you hag.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:27 AM

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!


Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified by a person's actions and not the gender of the person they're in love with or the color of their skin.
 
2013-04-08 09:16:47 AM

Crude: Off to reddit! EABOD!


So you can be downvoted into oblivion by 19 year old college liberals?
 
2013-04-08 09:17:13 AM
i284.photobucket.com
RIP Old Ironsides
 
2013-04-08 09:17:23 AM
img341.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-08 09:17:28 AM

GeneralJim: R.I.P.  Mrs. Thatcher.  You may not have saved your country, but you put off it's decline by a decade or more.


It`s things like this that have made me decide that jim is just the online presence for a stand up comic
 
2013-04-08 09:17:55 AM

Barnstormer: I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."


You probably know that that song was recorded by Bob Dylan fifteen years before she became Prime Minister, but just in case...

/honestly not trying to be snarky
//this time
 
2013-04-08 09:18:21 AM
RIP Tenacious Maggie Patcher

www.stamtavler.com
 
2013-04-08 09:18:47 AM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!


Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...
 
2013-04-08 09:18:50 AM

VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...


All she did was destroy the whole of British industry in the space of a decade and cripple the economy, military, and British power around the world, so she did a much better job at hurting the UK than the USSR ever did.
 
2013-04-08 09:19:04 AM

poot42: RIP Mrs Thatcher

There are too few of your ilk, and I fear for our children's future because of that void.


Yes, they may have to drink free milk at school...
 
2013-04-08 09:20:03 AM

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Shame on you to all who express joy over the death of any human being.



I was instrumental to the success of George W. Bush's Operation Iraqi Freedom. Just because you personally haven't done shiat for freedom doesn't mean nobody has. Speak for yourself, brougham. Not dancin' on her grave. But come on, man. There's maudlin and then there's you.
 
2013-04-08 09:20:26 AM
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:21:24 AM

rufus-t-firefly: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!

Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...


The same libs who admire Fidel Castro.
 
2013-04-08 09:21:39 AM

DeArmondVI: Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Because I'm sure not a single conservative expressed joy at Chavez's cancer and death. I was just fine doing a jig when bin Laden got killed and I'm just fine doing another now.


I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Does demonizing an opponent really make your world more just and helpful? Do people really believe that their way is the only way, and everyone who disagrees with them are just trying to hurt the world? It sure seems like it on Fark. I understand where the left is coming from. I understand where the right is coming from. There are no perfect solutions, just knowing when to balance things at the right time. People who demonize Thatcher and Reagan make me sick. People who demonize Ted Kennedy and Obama make me sick. No one gets into office with the goal of making the world a worse place. Why don't some of you try having some class sometime? We all have seen what happens when nations all agree on one ideology and think it their fate to spread it on everyone else.
 
2013-04-08 09:22:15 AM
RIP
 
2013-04-08 09:22:18 AM
Rest in Peace.  Classy Lady
 
2013-04-08 09:22:36 AM
I'm sure her and Bobby Sands are enjoying a nice, big meal together now.
 
2013-04-08 09:23:00 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
RIP Hobbit Dancers
 
2013-04-08 09:23:47 AM
...And the sun rose on a better world.
 
2013-04-08 09:23:50 AM

doyner: We're cool.


you're cool with a guy who's entire point was "libs bad"?
 
2013-04-08 09:23:52 AM

Slaxl: A lot of people don't remember the state the country was in when she came into power. The previous Labour government had been crippled by their own unions. The unions and Arthur Scargill were massively deleterious to the country. They had to be stopped.


By closing an entire industry, with knock-on effects to countless others, on the basis of spurious claims regarding its profitability? Yes, there were catastrophic labour disputes in the late 1970s, this was true across much of Europe. Other countries didn't demolish their energy independence to resolve the problem.

Also there seems to be some opinion that the Falklands war was either of her own manufacture, or a fortuitous something that saved her. Both are obviously wrong.

The latter claim is certainly not 'obviously wrong', Thatcher enjoyed a clear electoral uplift from Britain's success in the Falklands. Whether there was a conscious effort to provoke the war is debatable, but the withdrawl of Endurance despite Barker's warnings was a puzzling moment in post-war brinkmanship.

You won't see this kind of spite and venom when Blair dies

Yes you will and it will be richly deserved.
 
2013-04-08 09:24:13 AM

HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?


Why, did Obama comment here?
 
2013-04-08 09:24:22 AM

Ecobuckeye: Barnstormer: I'll always think of Bono's tribute to her at the Conspiracy of Hope - Amnesty International concert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNASMkj0Dyc


"It's a shame the way she makes me scrub the floor..."

You probably know that that song was recorded by Bob Dylan fifteen years before she became Prime Minister, but just in case...

/honestly not trying to be snarky
//this time


Seriously, who doesn't? Bringin' It All Back Home is my favorite Dylan album.
 
2013-04-08 09:24:50 AM

RanDomino: Finally. About 25 years too late.


Stay classy.

/SMH
 
2013-04-08 09:24:50 AM
Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...


Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?
 
2013-04-08 09:25:18 AM

Crude: So, uh, where is the message from the Moderator reminding asshole Leftists to keep their comments respectful?


There's a reason why FARK.com is dying, you're just too stupid to figure it out.


Off to reddit! EABOD!


I don't usually bother with death threads, but there was a mod demanding courtesy in a thread? About a liberal politician?
 
2013-04-08 09:25:29 AM
Is this the thread where Gen Y American hipsters who weren't even alive in the 80's talk about Margaret Thatcher based on what other people are saying about Margaret Thatcher?
 
2013-04-08 09:25:38 AM
I admit I'm a bit taken aback by how many enlightened Farkers seem to feel threatened by a strong woman in political leadership.
 
2013-04-08 09:25:46 AM

Jackson Herring: doyner: We're cool.

you're cool with a guy who's entire point was "libs bad"?


You missed the point. That is nothing new with you.
 
2013-04-08 09:26:05 AM
www.biography.com

RIP  THAT   CHER

 
2013-04-08 09:26:13 AM

d23: Every human death is a tragedy


"You know who else's death was a tragedy?"
 
2013-04-08 09:26:46 AM
She turned me into a newt!
 
2013-04-08 09:27:03 AM

verbaltoxin: Crude: Off to reddit! EABOD!

So you can be downvoted into oblivion by 19 year old college liberals?


Brave Level: So. Verging on [le]terally $agan.

/IAMA person running away, AMA!
 
2013-04-08 09:28:23 AM

topcon: Is this the thread where Gen Y American hipsters who weren't even alive in the 80's talk about Margaret Thatcher based on what other people are saying about Margaret Thatcher?


o/

Yep, I was born in the 80s and have animosity towards her because I learned some sh*t in history classes.
 
2013-04-08 09:28:41 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...

Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?


True dat. I used to hang with conservative baptists back in the day, and never saw nearly as much smug self-righteous judgmentalism as I do in the average fark politics thread.
 
2013-04-08 09:29:07 AM
I seriously wonder WTF will happen to Fark the day Abe Vigoda actually dies.  It will be a very strange day indeed.
 
2013-04-08 09:29:57 AM
hipsters? jesus farking christ that is some weak shiat
 
2013-04-08 09:30:14 AM

Spaghetti Eatin' Goombah: I seriously wonder WTF will happen to Fark the day Abe Vigoda actually dies.  It will be a very strange day indeed.


A Pia Zadora pic with "RIP" underneath?
 
2013-04-08 09:30:15 AM
For once that coont did something I agree with!
 
2013-04-08 09:31:07 AM
Two (or better) hours and WITI (the local Faux affiliate) has not made a mention of this. Nonetheless, RIP...
 
2013-04-08 09:31:14 AM
The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.
 
2013-04-08 09:31:37 AM

czetie: She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).


I dont know about that other stuff, but everything Ive read about the Falklands war pretty much puts the blame on the Argentinian government trying to wag the dog by retaking something that was never really theirs to begin with (saying you own something in you constitution doesnt necessarily make it so).  I guess Thatcher could have given up the Falklands.  Is that what you are saying should have happened?  The people living in the Falklands would probably disagree.
 
2013-04-08 09:33:39 AM
A state funeral would be abhorrent for vast swathes of Britain that were blighted by her policies and have never recovered.
 
2013-04-08 09:33:41 AM

FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.


I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.
 
2013-04-08 09:33:42 AM
 
2013-04-08 09:33:52 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...

Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?


Well, based on the words that immediately follow where you cut my post off, yes. For something to be justified, well, it needs to have good reasons. The part of my post you cut off are the reasons.

By the way, I said all that AS A CONSERVATIVE who is just sick and f*cking tired of what conservatism has become. "Oh, you're poor? You must be stupid so we're going to take away food for your children and prevent you from getting medical care." "Oh, you're gay? You're a horrible thing that shouldn't even be considered human. How dare you want to be treated as equal." "Oh, you're a woman? You deserve to be raped. Legitimately." F*ck modern day conservatism and what it's done to... well... everyone who wasn't born a male WASP with a silver spoon in their mouths.
 
2013-04-08 09:33:55 AM
My condolences to her family and all, but ...

WTF is it with conservatives and their damned hero worship??!? She wasn't Jesus with lady parts.
 
2013-04-08 09:34:16 AM
4.bp.blogspot.com
RIP Martin Catcher
 
2013-04-08 09:34:29 AM
farm4.static.flickr.com
RIP MARLINS CATCHER
 
2013-04-08 09:35:01 AM
And of all the things she did.  The most unforgivable was this abomination:
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 09:35:08 AM
The Daily Mail comments are fun. There's one relatively balanced reply in the top ten, but it does contain this gem:

Leftists should note - allowing council tenants to buy their homes was manna from heaven and was enthusiastically embraced by them despite what you think or say.

Nobody thinks that allowing council tenants to buy their own homes was bad for those particular tenants. It's the catastrophic effect on society that was the problem, removing low-income housing where it was most needed and leaving only the least desirable residences to an irrevocable spiral of decay and deprivation, but, "you know, there is no such thing as society."
 
2013-04-08 09:35:12 AM

muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.


welcometofark.jpg
 
2013-04-08 09:35:31 AM

farkingbubbler: Two (or better) hours and WITI (the local Faux affiliate) has not made a mention of this. Nonetheless, RIP...


Nevermind. It got all of 20 seconds of mention. Traffic got a whole minute (complete with artsy-fartsy animated map).
 
2013-04-08 09:36:38 AM
Now there's one less hole in the House of Lords.

No reference yet to Alan B'Stard? Fark, you are losing it.
 
2013-04-08 09:36:42 AM

muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.


HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.
 
2013-04-08 09:36:43 AM
It's just a rumour that they spread around town...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6T9qp9XbRY&feature=share
 
2013-04-08 09:36:46 AM
Obligatory Pete Wylie

Sorry if posted already, but a great dance on the grave song, bears repeating
 
2013-04-08 09:37:04 AM

fonebone77: czetie: She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

I dont know about that other stuff, but everything Ive read about the Falklands war pretty much puts the blame on the Argentinian government trying to wag the dog by retaking something that was never really theirs to begin with (saying you own something in you constitution doesnt necessarily make it so).  I guess Thatcher could have given up the Falklands.  Is that what you are saying should have happened?  The people living in the Falklands would probably disagree.


Brezhnev took Afghanistan.
Begin took Beirut.
Galtieri took the Union Jack.
And Maggie, over lunch one day,
Took a cruiser with all hands.
Apparently, to make him give it back

Argentina has no legitimate claim to the Falklands and the only reason people take their side is because they see their proximity to Argentina and know just enough about British history to make the relatively safe assumption that the Brits took it from someone.
 
2013-04-08 09:37:34 AM
Is this Reagan redux?
 
2013-04-08 09:38:10 AM

muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.


Dude.. If you're going to post the same sentiment over and over again at least make it vaguely witty.

/celibrate? Is that a party for people not having sex?
 
2013-04-08 09:39:06 AM

FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.


I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.
 
2013-04-08 09:39:43 AM
Heh... Gerry Adams' statement on her death:

Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British Prime Minister.
Working class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
Her role in international affairs was equally belligerent whether in support of the Chilean dictator Pinochet, her opposition to sanctions against apartheid South Africa; and her support for the Khmer Rouge.
Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering. She embraced censorship, collusion and the killing of citizens by covert operations, including the targeting of solicitors like Pat Finucane, alongside more open military operations and refused to recognise the rights of citizens to vote for parties of their choice.
Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy.
It should be noted that in complete contradiction of her public posturing, she authorised a back channel of communications with the Sinn Féin leadership but failed to act on the logic of this.
Unfortunately she was faced with weak Irish governments who failed to oppose her securocrat agenda or to enlist international support in defence of citizens in the north.
Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and '81.
Her Irish policy failed miserably.


Ought to ruffle a few feathers.
 
2013-04-08 09:39:54 AM

NYCNative: I know shiat about UK politics but I do know that all my punk rock friends thought she was a vile, evil creature who worked in cahoots with Reagan to advance policies that I would have abhorred had I lived there.


Like, e.g. The Mekons.
 
2013-04-08 09:40:19 AM

Kome: Civil_War2_Time: Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...

Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?

Well, based on the words that immediately follow where you cut my post off, yes. For something to be justified, well, it needs to have good reasons. The part of my post you cut off are the reasons.

By the way, I said all that AS A CONSERVATIVE who is just sick and f*cking tired of what conservatism has become. "Oh, you're poor? You must be stupid so we're going to take away food for your children and prevent you from getting medical care." "Oh, you're gay? You're a horrible thing that shouldn't even be considered human. How dare you want to be treated as equal." "Oh, you're a woman? You deserve to be raped. Legitimately." F*ck modern day conservatism and what it's done to... well... everyone who wasn't born a male WASP with a silver spoon in their mouths.


I can tell you're not a REAL Scotsman, as I'm sure you'll be hearing soon enough from actual ones.
 
2013-04-08 09:40:27 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.


I bet you are still hung over from your Chavez party.
 
2013-04-08 09:40:54 AM
I'm not a US liberal born in the 80s or whatever the assumption was further up.
Born in the 60s, British, apolitical.
Growing up in the 80s was farking grim in England, honestly, you can all laugh and joke, name-call and get your panties in a wad, but it was grim and we are still in the same mess as post-Thatcher all politicians here have morphed into the same sort of beast - posh boys that want to horde gold.
 
2013-04-08 09:40:57 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.


We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.
 
2013-04-08 09:41:18 AM
Ronald Reagan: check!
Margaret Thatcher: check!
George HW Bush: meh
George W Bush: *sigh*
Vladimit Putin: *grumble*
Rush Limbaugh: *shakes fist*
Dick Cheney: *throws TV into wall*

/Seriously, when Dick Cheney dies I am going to throw a party.
 
2013-04-08 09:41:32 AM
wow, lib hate machine out in full force this morning!
 
2013-04-08 09:42:03 AM

Jackson Herring: doyner: We're cool.

you're cool with a guy who's entire point was "libs bad"?


I'm cool with him being civil to me.  I'm cool with not dancing on Thatcher's grave.  I'm cool with respectfully disagreeing.  Yes, I disagreed with his charactarization of liberals--still do--but despite that, and due to pretty much everything he's posted since, I have no issue.  I'm sure we'll disagree in some other thread, but his point about demonizing is spot on.

Civility is the antithesis of demogogy. Civility needs to be nurtured.
 
2013-04-08 09:42:16 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.


Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.
 
2013-04-08 09:42:18 AM

keylock71: Heh... Gerry Adams' statement on her death:

Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British Prime Minister.
Working class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
Her role in international affairs was equally belligerent whether in support of the Chilean dictator Pinochet, her opposition to sanctions against apartheid South Africa; and her support for the Khmer Rouge.
Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering. She embraced censorship, collusion and the killing of citizens by covert operations, including the targeting of solicitors like Pat Finucane, alongside more open military operations and refused to recognise the rights of citizens to vote for parties of their choice.
Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy.
It should be noted that in complete contradiction of her public posturing, she authorised a back channel of communications with the Sinn Féin leadership but failed to act on the logic of this.
Unfortunately she was faced with weak Irish governments who failed to oppose her securocrat agenda or to enlist international support in defence of citizens in the north.
Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and '81.
Her Irish policy failed miserably.

Ought to ruffle a few feathers.


fark Gerry Adams too. He deserves as much criticism as Thatcher.
 
2013-04-08 09:42:41 AM

phaseolus: My condolences to her family and all, but ...

WTF is it with conservatives and their damned hero worship??!? She wasn't Jesus with lady parts.


I agree, I don't get that either. But I also don't get the whole "rot in hell" sentiment. She was a conservative politician and as such she did what conservatives at the time would do. She is neither an angel nor a devil, she was just a human, and one who had a rather interesting life.
 
2013-04-08 09:43:07 AM
I've really hit the ignore button here.
 
2013-04-08 09:43:16 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.


Remember kids:

If you are left wing and hate America, all is forgiven.
 
2013-04-08 09:43:33 AM

ChuDogg: Is this Reagan redux?


She's Britain's Reagan. And worked just as hard as he did to fellate the rich. It's a reason they were such good friends - both shared the dementia and hatred for common people. Why do you think she forced herself to change her accent?
 
2013-04-08 09:43:36 AM
To the cosmos, ma'am.  I didn't agree with your politics, but at least you showed women could be just as ruthless and scurrilous as the men.
 
2013-04-08 09:44:22 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.

Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.


I would to if America actively supported a coup against me.  America sucks in MANY different ways and for many different reasons.

/yes i am american
//fark america.
 
2013-04-08 09:44:42 AM
muck4doo:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Does demonizing an opponent really make your world more just and helpful? Do people really believe that their way is the only way, and everyone who disagrees with them are just trying to hurt the world? It sure seems like it on Fark. I understand where the left is coming from. I understand where the right is coming from. There are no perfect solutions, just knowing when to balance things at the right time. People who demonize Thatcher and Reagan make me sick. People who demonize Ted Kennedy and Obama make me sick. No one gets into office with the goal of making the world a worse place. Why don't some of you try having some class sometime? We all have seen what happens when nations all agree on one ideology and think it their fate to spread it on everyone else.

History is rather clear about the actions of Ms. Thatcher and the tremendous harm they caused on others, her knowledge that her actions would harm others, and her absolute callousness and indifference about the harm that her actions would cause others.

If, in addition to the purported moral high ground you are taking today, you also spent your time chiding others for celebrating Quadaffi's death, then I applaud your consistency. I, however, am just fine with feeling joy when a monster leaves this world, be it Quadaffi, bin Laden, Kim Jong ill, Pinochet, or Thatcher (among others).

Being critical of someone's actions (and the massive harm they caused) is not the same as wanting to spread the Third Reich, Communism, or the Caliphate.
 
2013-04-08 09:44:52 AM

Crude: So, uh, where is the message from the Moderator reminding asshole Leftists to keep their comments respectful?


There's a reason why FARK.com is dying, you're just too stupid to figure it out.


Off to reddit! EABOD!


Well...I guess I won't attending the next Fark party in the Twin Cities.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:00 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.

Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.

I would to if America actively supported a coup against me.  America sucks in MANY different ways and for many different reasons.

/yes i am american
//fark america.


Then please leave.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:06 AM
Margaret Thatcher, objectively pro-apartheid: "'The ANC is a typical terrorist organisation ... Anyone who thinks it is going to run the government in South Africa is living in cloud-cuckoo land'"
 
2013-04-08 09:45:21 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.


Any time a communist leader dies, I buy myself something nice.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:27 AM

Fish_Fight!: wow, lib hate machine out in full force this morning!


Why deny her what she worked so hard for?
 
2013-04-08 09:45:31 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.

Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.


That is a genuinely crazy viewpoint to hold. You're crazy.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:42 AM

Coco LaFemme: To the cosmos, ma'am.  I didn't agree with your politics, but at least you showed women could be just as ruthless and scurrilous as the men.


THIS is how to voice disapproval.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:45 AM
Good riddance. She and Reagan will catch up over tea in hell tonight.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:49 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.

Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.

I would to if America actively supported a coup against me.  America sucks in MANY different ways and for many different reasons.

/yes i am american
//fark america.

Then please leave.


Nope, I'd rather stay here in the belly of the beast and fight for change.  Thanks any way though.
 
2013-04-08 09:45:59 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: HaywoodJablonski: Between this thread and the one about the evamgelist's dead son, can I take my Obama vote back?

Why, has Obama started posting on Fark?


Yeah, he's quite an accomplished troll, so you may have him on your Ignore list
 
2013-04-08 09:46:02 AM
THE iron lady? I thought all women did the ironing.
 
2013-04-08 09:46:53 AM
I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

The Liberal PC Police strike again.
 
2013-04-08 09:47:15 AM
Anyone care to wager on whether the Tories will try to hold a snap election to take advantage of Thatcher sympathy and rid themselves of the need for an alliance with the LibDems?
 
2013-04-08 09:47:54 AM
epguides.com
Torie MP Alan B'Stard (Haltemprice constituency) is unavailable for comment as he has locked himself in his office and refuses to come out until someone tells him that it's not true.
 
2013-04-08 09:48:19 AM

nekom: A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.


Look, second post and the thread's done.

Her response to the Falklands will always play number #1 for me. I disagree with many of her domestic policies but her foreign policy was spot on.

Godspeed.
 
2013-04-08 09:49:14 AM

Coco LaFemme: To the cosmos, ma'am.  I didn't agree with your politics, but at least you showed women could be just as ruthless and scurrilous as the men.


She single-handedly proved the, "if women were in charge, there would be no wars," to be the bullshiat it is.
 
2013-04-08 09:49:42 AM

keylock71: Heh... Gerry Adams' statement on her death:

Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British Prime Minister.
Working class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
Her role in international affairs was equally belligerent whether in support of the Chilean dictator Pinochet, her opposition to sanctions against apartheid South Africa; and her support for the Khmer Rouge.
Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering. She embraced censorship, collusion and the killing of citizens by covert operations, including the targeting of solicitors like Pat Finucane, alongside more open military operations and refused to recognise the rights of citizens to vote for parties of their choice.
Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy.
It should be noted that in complete contradiction of her public posturing, she authorised a back channel of communications with the Sinn Féin leadership but failed to act on the logic of this.
Unfortunately she was faced with weak Irish governments who failed to oppose her securocrat agenda or to enlist international support in defence of citizens in the north.
Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and '81.
Her Irish policy failed miserably.

Ought to ruffle a few feathers.


I wonder how many years he spent working on that!
 
2013-04-08 09:50:06 AM

Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.


You're certainly trolling hard.  Too hard to be believable.
 
2013-04-08 09:50:35 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

I can't wait for people like you to get all huffy puffy when people like me will celebrate Castro's death.

We already saw "compassionate conservatism" when Chavez died.  So spare me your bullshiat.

Call me crazy, but if somebody hates America, I will hate him right back.

I would to if America actively supported a coup against me.  America sucks in MANY different ways and for many different reasons.

/yes i am american
//fark america.

Then please leave.

Nope, I'd rather stay here in the belly of the beast and fight for change.  Thanks any way though.


Oooooh.... You're so cool and edgy. I bet you're a socialist because you never accomplished anything, and you think the world owes you a living. In other words, grow up.
 
2013-04-08 09:50:35 AM

FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.


Your comments shall forever appear with a glorious red background in my Fark to commemorate this sunny day in England
 
2013-04-08 09:50:57 AM

Purple_Jack: Good night, you evil old witch.


Ya know how I know you're a liberal...
 
2013-04-08 09:51:00 AM
 

keylock71: Ought to ruffle a few feathers.


I don't feel that Adams occupies the moral high ground on almost any subject, but he's on particularly shaky territory where "causing great suffering" is concerned.

newsimg.bbc.co.uk

I rather prefer Tony Benn's (pre-mortem) epitaph:

Politicians are divided into signposts and weathercocks. Neil Kinnock gave up everything he believed in to get power and ended up with no one believing him about anything. That makes him a weathercock. Margaret Thatcher was a signpost. The trouble was, I thought her sign pointed in the wrong direction. She was not affected by spin-doctors, she said what she meant and people knew what they were voting for.
 
2013-04-08 09:51:47 AM

jamspoon: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

Your comments shall forever appear with a glorious red background in my Fark to commemorate this sunny day in England


I'm red until i'm dead baby.
 
2013-04-08 09:51:58 AM
i.imgur.com

"Oliver Twist! Jeffrey Dickens! Back to Victorian values! I HOPE YOU'RE SATISFIED, THATCHER!"

 
2013-04-08 09:52:36 AM

FarkedOver: jamspoon: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

Your comments shall forever appear with a glorious red background in my Fark to commemorate this sunny day in England

I'm red until i'm dead baby.


Better dead than red.
 
2013-04-08 09:53:02 AM
www.hollywoodmemorabilia.com

RIP Mark, Great Catcher

 
2013-04-08 09:53:03 AM
Thatcher's been in Hell for an hour and already shut 3 furnaces.
 
2013-04-08 09:53:10 AM
England's stealth fascist.
 
2013-04-08 09:53:18 AM

Kome: Civil_War2_Time: Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...

Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?

Well, based on the words that immediately follow where you cut my post off, yes. For something to be justified, well, it needs to have good reasons. The part of my post you cut off are the reasons.

By the way, I said all that AS A CONSERVATIVE who is just sick and f*cking tired of what conservatism has become. "Oh, you're poor? You must be stupid so we're going to take away food for your children and prevent you from getting medical care." "Oh, you're gay? You're a horrible thing that shouldn't even be considered human. How dare you want to be treated as equal." "Oh, you're a woman? You deserve to be raped. Legitimately." F*ck modern day conservatism and what it's done to... well... everyone who wasn't born a male WASP with a silver spoon in their mouths.


Stop watching/reading so much news...regardless of the source. You're projecting on how you feel most conservatives think, and that's not reality.

Many people are voted into office on their campaign promises, yet they then shun those very promises to their constituents to further their own hidden agenda.

It happens on BOTH sides of the aisle, and it sucks.

But what you're seeing in the 24/7 news cycle is just for ratings. So, stop watching/reading so much of it. I promise you that you'll be a happier person by doing just that.
 
2013-04-08 09:53:46 AM

The_Sponge: Oooooh.... You're so cool and edgy. I bet you're a socialist because you never accomplished anything, and you think the world owes you a living. In other words, grow up.


The world belongs to the workers my friend.  I don't consider myself cool and/or edgy.  But hey, you know what is cool and edgy? Letting prisoners in N. Ireland die because of the terrible conditions they were forced to endure.  Real edgy and real cool!!
 
2013-04-08 09:54:04 AM
I have to admit I don't know much about Thatcher or her policies, but I do know Scotland hates her and she dismissed Mandela as a terrorist.
 
2013-04-08 09:54:40 AM

Jake Havechek: England's stealth fascist.


"stealth?"
 
2013-04-08 09:54:40 AM
A relic of an age best forgotten.
 
2013-04-08 09:55:05 AM

radiofreewill: Anyone care to wager on whether the Tories will try to hold a snap election to take advantage of Thatcher sympathy and rid themselves of the need for an alliance with the LibDems?


Not a chance. Thatcher is too divisive for the Tories to gain political ground amongst the wavering middle. It's also becoming increasingly obvious that Osborne couldn't find his own arse with two hands and a map, which wouldn't do them any favours at the polls. Well worth keeping an eye out for what unpopular press and policy releases come out in the next few days, while nobody's looking, though.
 
2013-04-08 09:55:12 AM

Somacandra: [i.imgur.com image 203x152]

"Oliver Twist! Jeffrey Dickens! Back to Victorian values! I HOPE YOU'RE SATISFIED, THATCHER!"


You win. I was perusing the thread and thought of Rick at about half of these comments. Perfect.
 
2013-04-08 09:55:16 AM

Purple_Jack: Thatcher's been in Hell for an hour and already shut 3 furnaces.


No doubt in the low-income neighborhoods.
 
2013-04-08 09:55:16 AM

WaitWhatWhy: So, who won the pool?


Not Rod Stewart. He had Maggie - May
 
2013-04-08 09:55:19 AM
Yeah, everyone has claimed the Falklands at some point in time.  The trouble is that not many have actually wanted to put any work into keeping it.
 
2013-04-08 09:55:57 AM
Wow, there's no hate like liberal hate I guess.  Way to show how classy you are libs!
 
2013-04-08 09:56:06 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Kome: Civil_War2_Time: Kome

Civil_War2_Time: There's no hate like liberal hate!

Because unlike conservative hate, it's usually justified...

Be honest. That's what you were really trying to say, wasn't it?

Well, based on the words that immediately follow where you cut my post off, yes. For something to be justified, well, it needs to have good reasons. The part of my post you cut off are the reasons.

By the way, I said all that AS A CONSERVATIVE who is just sick and f*cking tired of what conservatism has become. "Oh, you're poor? You must be stupid so we're going to take away food for your children and prevent you from getting medical care." "Oh, you're gay? You're a horrible thing that shouldn't even be considered human. How dare you want to be treated as equal." "Oh, you're a woman? You deserve to be raped. Legitimately." F*ck modern day conservatism and what it's done to... well... everyone who wasn't born a male WASP with a silver spoon in their mouths.

Stop watching/reading so much news...regardless of the source. You're projecting on how you feel most conservatives think, and that's not reality.

Many people are voted into office on their campaign promises, yet they then shun those very promises to their constituents to further their own hidden agenda.

It happens on BOTH sides of the aisle, and it sucks.

But what you're seeing in the 24/7 news cycle is just for ratings. So, stop watching/reading so much of it. I promise you that you'll be a happier person by doing just that.


I guarantee that if he starts getting his news from partisan internet sources instead he will only become even more bitter and angry.
 
2013-04-08 09:56:28 AM

Haliburton Cummings: [i.imgur.com image 611x121]


Rot you withered ol' c0o0ont!


best hashtag fail since #susanalbumparty
 
2013-04-08 09:56:51 AM

remus: Wow, there's no hate like liberal hate I guess.  Way to show how classy you are libs!


Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.
 
2013-04-08 09:57:01 AM
Yay, let's go kill a bunch of Argentinians for a bunch of farking rocks.
 
2013-04-08 09:57:05 AM

muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

Since being a prick to people agreeing with you.

Yeah, I mus-understood. My apologies.


So you were lying when you said everyone on Fark hates Doyner?
 
2013-04-08 09:57:37 AM
farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2013-04-08 09:57:49 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com
Tarquin Fin-Tim-Lin-Bin-Whin-Bim-Lim-Bus-Stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel unavailable for comment
 
2013-04-08 09:58:40 AM
Too bad the IRA didn't finish her off in the 80s.
 
2013-04-08 09:58:48 AM

TimSTP: Tarquin Fin-Tim-Lin-Bin-Whin-Bim-Lim-Bus-Stop-F'tang-F'tang-Olé-Biscuitbarrel unavailable for comment


LOL what?

/Palin, right?
 
2013-04-08 09:58:56 AM
Her name was an anagram for "that great charmer." I know, because that was the Final Jeopardy question I got wrong when I appeared on the program. Just one more thing I hold against Margaret Thatcher.
 
2013-04-08 09:59:12 AM

Cormee: keylock71: Heh... Gerry Adams' statement on her death:

Margaret Thatcher did great hurt to the Irish and British people during her time as British Prime Minister.
Working class communities were devastated in Britain because of her policies.
Her role in international affairs was equally belligerent whether in support of the Chilean dictator Pinochet, her opposition to sanctions against apartheid South Africa; and her support for the Khmer Rouge.
Here in Ireland her espousal of old draconian militaristic policies prolonged the war and caused great suffering. She embraced censorship, collusion and the killing of citizens by covert operations, including the targeting of solicitors like Pat Finucane, alongside more open military operations and refused to recognise the rights of citizens to vote for parties of their choice.
Her failed efforts to criminalise the republican struggle and the political prisoners is part of her legacy.
It should be noted that in complete contradiction of her public posturing, she authorised a back channel of communications with the Sinn Féin leadership but failed to act on the logic of this.
Unfortunately she was faced with weak Irish governments who failed to oppose her securocrat agenda or to enlist international support in defence of citizens in the north.
Margaret Thatcher will be especially remembered for her shameful role during the epic hunger strikes of 1980 and '81.
Her Irish policy failed miserably.

Ought to ruffle a few feathers.

I wonder how many years he spent working on that!


Heh... Probably a few.
 
2013-04-08 09:59:16 AM
Thatcher also joins another ruthless leader of England, Queen Elizabeth the First, that made Northern Ireland worse.
 
2013-04-08 09:59:19 AM
Great Britain is a better place because of her.
 
2013-04-08 09:59:37 AM

FarkedOver: Too bad the IRA didn't finish her off in the 80s.


And you are a terrorist supporter. Wow.
 
2013-04-08 09:59:53 AM

remus: Wow, there's no hate like liberal hate I guess.  Way to show how classy you are libs!


Thanks. It's an art.

www.ocularfusion.net
 
2013-04-08 09:59:57 AM

muck4doo: Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?


You started this thread off by ranting about communists and acting like an attention whore. You don't give a shiat about civility.
 
2013-04-08 10:00:44 AM
Rod Stewart just a few weeks out with his death sweepstake prediction: Maggie May.
 
2013-04-08 10:01:49 AM
Ironically the film The Iron Lady is just starting on Showtime right now
 
2013-04-08 10:02:07 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: Too bad the IRA didn't finish her off in the 80s.

And you are a terrorist supporter. Wow.


God forbid people want an occupying force out of their country. Filthy terrorists.
 
2013-04-08 10:02:17 AM

FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.


Precisely the kind of sentiment I'd expect from those espousing an ideology of tolerance and open-mindedness towards people whose views differ from their own.

Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred?  I can never keep track.
 
2013-04-08 10:02:33 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: jamspoon: FarkedOver: muck4doo: FarkedOver: The only thing truly sad about this is that she didn't die sooner.  Rot in hell you fark.

I'm done. Fark libs, celibrate.

HA! I'm not a liberal.  Liberals probably mourn her loss as well.  I'm a socialist.  I hope Maggie is greeted by her buddy Pinochet at the gates of hell.  This woman deserves no respect and no ounce of sympathy for the war she waged on working people.

Your comments shall forever appear with a glorious red background in my Fark to commemorate this sunny day in England

I'm red until i'm dead baby.

Better dead than red.


"Better see the Reds dead."

-- Ayn Rand
 
2013-04-08 10:02:34 AM
Someone go out on the lawn and tell Biden to skip that last coat of wax on the Trans Am and put on his good suit. He is going to London for a few days. And tell him to keep the tab under $400k a night this time OK?
 
2013-04-08 10:03:00 AM

NateGrey:


Isn't it the opposite today? Watching the petulant rage from the left as I sip my coffee is giving me quite kick at work this morning.

Not that I like Thatcher. I don't care either for her either way.


media.tumblr.com
 
2013-04-08 10:03:04 AM

greentea1985: I have a feeling some parts of England will go into mourning, and other parts will be celebrating.


Ghouls always celebrate death.
 
2013-04-08 10:03:09 AM

ManRay: Someone go out on the lawn and tell Biden to skip that last coat of wax on the Trans Am and put on his good suit. He is going to London for a few days. And tell him to keep the tab under $400k a night this time OK?


Lulz.
 
2013-04-08 10:03:20 AM
Frankie Boyle on Thatcher's funeral

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmmomV-ax-s
 
2013-04-08 10:03:44 AM

Purple_Jack: http://www.isthatcherdeadyet.co.uk/


http://www.abevigoda.com/

www.abevigoda.com
 
2013-04-08 10:03:44 AM

HoustonNick: None of us, including me, has done more good for freedom and fighting tyranny than her.  RIP Ms. Thatcher.


Don't you mean more for tyranny and fighting freedom?
 
2013-04-08 10:04:03 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Stop watching/reading so much news...regardless of the source. You're projecting on how you feel most conservatives think, and that's not reality.


So... stop being informed and I'll have a better idea of how most conservatives think? You may wish to re-phrase that, because that is precisely how that statement comes off, and I'm willing to bet you did not intend it to come off that way. I'll grant you, however, that I did mean conservative politicians and not "all conservatives", so I as well need to be more careful about how I word things.

Thatcher very much deserves the ill-feelings so many liberals hold towards her, and frankly, she deserves a lot more ill-feelings from conservatives than she gets. She was a disaster.
 
2013-04-08 10:04:07 AM
Good night funny lady.
 
2013-04-08 10:04:41 AM
Or even better:

i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 10:04:46 AM
Say what you will about her politics, she was one fine piece of ass.
 
2013-04-08 10:04:57 AM
scienceblogs.com
 
2013-04-08 10:05:21 AM
Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.
 
2013-04-08 10:05:40 AM

theotherles: Off to reddit! EABOD!


Is this why there's been less retardation lately? All the kiddies ran off to reddit? And here I thought it was my gigantic ignore list making this place more pleasant.
 
2013-04-08 10:06:02 AM

GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.


Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!
 
2013-04-08 10:06:29 AM
My childhood seems really long ago today...

www.hotr.us
 
2013-04-08 10:06:41 AM

Ebenator: Say what you will about her politics, she was one fine piece of ass.


Check your privilege.
 
2013-04-08 10:07:04 AM

Psylence: Is this why there's been less retardation lately? All the kiddies ran off to reddit? And here I thought it was my gigantic ignore list making this place more pleasant.


It's always safer where your worldview is never challenged.
 
2013-04-08 10:07:06 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!


So what line of work are you in!
 
2013-04-08 10:07:14 AM
ChuDogg

That's why I suggested he/she refrain from watching AND reading so much news. It's a very bad addiction, and not much good can come out of being so "informed."
 
2013-04-08 10:07:22 AM

dwrash: Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.


Uh huh. I sure want a leader that does whatever they want regardless of public opinion.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-04-08 10:08:03 AM
Damn phone.....meant to use a question mark.
 
2013-04-08 10:08:32 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!


Question marks are the shackles of the makers.
 
2013-04-08 10:08:46 AM
Salute to a brillant woman, R.I.P.
 
2013-04-08 10:08:59 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!


How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?
 
2013-04-08 10:09:02 AM

Haliburton Cummings: Rot you withered ol' c0o0ont!


*peeks outside*

The rainbow flags haven't been lowered to half staff, so Cher's still alive.
 
2013-04-08 10:09:24 AM

The_Sponge: rufus-t-firefly: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!

Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...

The same libs who admire Fidel Castro.


Yep if someone doesn't like apartheid or Pinochet that means they love Castro. Those are the rules.
 
2013-04-08 10:09:29 AM
Whether or not you agree with her politics she was an exceptional world leader, and a person who smashed through the glass ceiling.

"These may not be women you wanna fark, but they are definitely women you don't wanna fark with." - Robin Williams.
 
2013-04-08 10:09:29 AM

jcooli09: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

That's the same thing the Reagan felaters all say here in the states, and it's BS here too.

Reagan and Thatcher had exactly as much to do with the fall of the Soviets that every other president and PM.  The soviets fell due to their own corruption, mismanagement, and ill treatment of their people.


Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
 
2013-04-08 10:09:33 AM
In hell,  Oliver Cromwell now has someone to compare notes with as to who did more to destroy their country.
 
2013-04-08 10:10:13 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?


Just curious. Are you employed?
 
2013-04-08 10:10:26 AM

beta_plus: Fark Libs are displaying their class as always at the tragic passing of another human being.  The party of love and tolerance strikes again!


An 87 year old dying after years of ill-health barely constitutes 'tragic'. Unlike Thatcher's contribution to the state of the country today.
 
2013-04-08 10:10:43 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

Just curious. Are you employed?


Yes.
 
2013-04-08 10:11:24 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

Just curious. Are you employed?

Yes.


In what line of work?
 
2013-04-08 10:11:29 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?


It's how he determines peoples worth
 
2013-04-08 10:11:39 AM

FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?


I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.
 
2013-04-08 10:12:03 AM
Was the medicine too harsh?
 
2013-04-08 10:12:06 AM

GoldSpider: Psylence: Is this why there's been less retardation lately? All the kiddies ran off to reddit? And here I thought it was my gigantic ignore list making this place more pleasant.

It's always safer where your worldview is never challenged.


Ignore list is for people whose sole contribution is spewing infantile insults. Use the word "libtard" non-ironically? Goodbye. That sort of shiat isn't challenging anything, and sadly most of the right leaning folks on this site are at that level or below.
 
2013-04-08 10:12:12 AM

BMulligan: Her name was an anagram for "that great charmer." I know, because that was the Final Jeopardy question I got wrong when I appeared on the program. Just one more thing I hold against Margaret Thatcher.


Rod you ignorant slut.

Looks like you all go it wrong.
 
2013-04-08 10:12:14 AM
www.thepoke.co.uk
 
2013-04-08 10:12:39 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

It's how he determines peoples worth


No, I was curious because he went off on how profits are evil.
 
2013-04-08 10:13:07 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

Just curious. Are you employed?

Yes.

In what line of work?


Why do you quest to dominate others? A psychiatrist could attribute that to negative self worth.
 
2013-04-08 10:13:59 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

Just curious. Are you employed?

Yes.

In what line of work?


Intellectual property.  I can only imagine where you're going with this..... lol.  What I do, means farkall to anything at all....
 
2013-04-08 10:14:01 AM

Joe Blowme: jcooli09: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

That's the same thing the Reagan felaters all say here in the states, and it's BS here too.

Reagan and Thatcher had exactly as much to do with the fall of the Soviets that every other president and PM.  The soviets fell due to their own corruption, mismanagement, and ill treatment of their people.

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.


This is what conservatives actually believe.
 
2013-04-08 10:14:06 AM

Psylence: That sort of shiat isn't challenging anything, and sadly most of the right leaning folks on this site are at that level or below.


And where does "Rot in Hell, coont!" fall on your scale of productive dialogue?
 
2013-04-08 10:14:31 AM
At least she kept all that South Atlantic oil under the control of whitey.

Other than the Falklands, she can go to hell. Or Budleigh Salterton
 
2013-04-08 10:14:57 AM

remus: Wow, there's no hate like liberal hate I guess.  Way to show how classy you are libs!


I was raised to show respect for the dead, or at least the newly-dead, as I suspect you were as well.  And if you couldn't be respectful then you should at least hold your tongue.

However I believe that it does a dis-service to our culture and society to not call something out when it's true and deserved.

She was an oppressive tyrant whom largely served the upper-class.  She has come down on the wrong side of history.
 
2013-04-08 10:14:58 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?



Why do you not have your own business that pays its employees a living wage oh great one? Why do you hate the little people and deny them your all mighty wisdom and socialist ideology and jobs that pay them a living wage? You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?
 
2013-04-08 10:15:14 AM

Civil_War2_Time: ChuDogg

That's why I suggested he/she refrain from watching AND reading so much news. It's a very bad addiction, and not much good can come out of being so "informed."


Ah OK. I just think it's funny when people pride themselves on not following cable news, as that in and of itself makes them more enlightened. 99% of the time, that usually just means they are on partisan blogs and forums all day and are usually fed the exact same stream of talking points issued by think tanks and superpacs
 
2013-04-08 10:15:15 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

It's how he determines peoples worth


Worthington's Law
 
2013-04-08 10:15:15 AM

GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.


Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.
 
2013-04-08 10:15:21 AM
She should be thought of the same as Reagan - at the time, reasonable and rational, but knowing what the world knows now, a complete f*cktard who nearly destroyed the world.
 
2013-04-08 10:15:22 AM

GoldSpider: Psylence: That sort of shiat isn't challenging anything, and sadly most of the right leaning folks on this site are at that level or below.

And where does "Rot in Hell, coont!" fall on your scale of productive dialogue?


It points to fark.com on my scale.

/metric
 
2013-04-08 10:15:33 AM

ChuDogg: NateGrey:

Isn't it the opposite today? Watching the petulant rage from the left as I sip my coffee is giving me quite kick at work this morning.

Not that I like Thatcher. I don't care either for her either way.


[media.tumblr.com image 300x308]


Sure you are reading the same thread? See *some* people celebrating, and the right wingers raging and accusing liberals of not being tolerant. One Fark Con said "he was done". Whatever that means.
 
2013-04-08 10:16:25 AM
When subtitles go wrong - on the BBC News channel a few minutes ago, describing the route her coffin will take through London.  I'm pretty sure they meant "Aldwych" as in Aldwych Road:

img191.imageshack.us
 
2013-04-08 10:16:34 AM

czetie: A reminder to those naive enough to defend her:

She deliberately provoked a war under false pretenses that cost thousands of lives. (Little known fact: Britain has now lost as many Falklands veterans to suicide as it lost in the fighting itself).

She deliberately drove Britain into recession to destroy the unions and to "prove" her absurd Reaganist economic policies.

She sold off national assets and used the money not for the benefit of the country but to line the pockets of political supporters.

She practiced the politics of authoritarianism, populism, xenophobia, nationalism, and class division.

And as the most powerful woman in politics, she kicked away the ladder for those below her, having fewer women in her cabinets than any prime minister in modern history.

Oh, and long before she became prime minister, her defining act in government was to take away the glass of free milk that was provided to every primary school child in order to ensure that even the poorest child of the least competent parents was getting a nutritional breakfast (something that science shows is profoundly correlated with good performance and behavior in schools). At the time we derided her as "Thatcher the Snatcher". How little we realized that we had been given a warning glimpse into her true heart.


THIS
it's true enough to break me out of my lurkerdom.
THIS!
 
2013-04-08 10:16:45 AM

Joe Blowme: You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?


I can expertly say that workers should take control of the things that are used to exploit them.  That would be a good start.
 
2013-04-08 10:17:35 AM
pbs.twimg.com
 
2013-04-08 10:17:41 AM

Epoch_Zero: /metric


Lord, I just knew you were a filthy Pinko.  :)
 
2013-04-08 10:17:53 AM
FOX News Channel has had a parade of Reagan fans gushing over Thatcher since the news came in.

You'd think she invented the motherfarking wheel.
 
2013-04-08 10:18:06 AM

FarkedOver: Joe Blowme: You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?

I can expertly say that workers should take control of the things that are used to exploit them.  That would be a good start.


Expertly? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
 
2013-04-08 10:18:30 AM

Joe Blowme: Why do you not have your own business that pays its employees a living wage oh great one? Why do you hate the little people and deny them your all mighty wisdom and socialist ideology and jobs that pay them a living wage? You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?


Your begging the question is hanging out.
 
2013-04-08 10:18:45 AM

GoldSpider: Psylence: That sort of shiat isn't challenging anything, and sadly most of the right leaning folks on this site are at that level or below.

And where does "Rot in Hell, coont!" fall on your scale of productive dialogue?


Not exactly productive, but likely cathartic to people directly affected by her policies.

And its a death thread, I don't think anyone is coming in here for an in depth discussion on the pros and cons of 1980's realpolitik.
 
2013-04-08 10:19:05 AM
So did the munchkins all come out and sing?
 
2013-04-08 10:19:10 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.


"Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?
 
2013-04-08 10:19:34 AM

Psylence: GoldSpider: Psylence: Is this why there's been less retardation lately? All the kiddies ran off to reddit? And here I thought it was my gigantic ignore list making this place more pleasant.

It's always safer where your worldview is never challenged.

Ignore list is for people whose sole contribution is spewing infantile insults. Use the word "libtard" non-ironically? Goodbye. That sort of shiat isn't challenging anything, and sadly most of the right leaning folks on this site are at that level or below.


Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard! Libtard!
 
2013-04-08 10:19:47 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: Joe Blowme: You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?

I can expertly say that workers should take control of the things that are used to exploit them.  That would be a good start.

Expertly? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!


I'm sorry the notion of workers controlling their own destiny and no longer having a need for the oh so wise owners and managers is laughable to you.  I'm sorry democratically run work places frighten you.
 
2013-04-08 10:19:53 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [Link][pbs.twimg.com image 722x268]


Sounds like that's been written for years, and the publicists just swap out the First Lady's name with each passing President.
 
2013-04-08 10:20:03 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.


So every dime you make after paying your bills you give to the poor right? I mean you dont need all that excess profit when other are suffering right? Or is that "someone elses job" to give thier profits away? Typical socialist, so generous with other peoples money.
 
2013-04-08 10:20:05 AM

beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.

/does NHS cover butt hurt?


What is "The result of a world war bombing the shiat out of everything and only leaving room for improvement, Alex?"
 
2013-04-08 10:20:22 AM

The_Sponge: ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: Or are Socialists cool with fomenting hatred? I can never keep track.

Nothing wrong with hating a class enemy.  You know, people who want to privatize everything and destroy unions and drive down wages for profit.   Because at the end of the day what is profit? It's just what's left over from not paying workers a living wage.  It's not a bad thing to hate thatcher.... she was a terrible enemy to workers.  She was a great friend to Pinochet though!

So what line of work are you in!

How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

It's how he determines peoples worth

No, I was curious because he went off on how profits are evil.


He never said that, he said profit while not paying living wages was evil. And actually never said evil.
 
2013-04-08 10:20:26 AM

Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?


Sadly.
 
2013-04-08 10:20:47 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: Joe Blowme: You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?

I can expertly say that workers should take control of the things that are used to exploit them.  That would be a good start.

Expertly? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

I'm sorry the notion of workers controlling their own destiny and no longer having a need for the oh so wise owners and managers is laughable to you.  I'm sorry democratically run work places frighten you.


And I'm sorry that the profit motive frightens you.
 
2013-04-08 10:20:56 AM

Dusk-You-n-Me: [pbs.twimg.com image 722x268]


no hat like liberal hat
 
2013-04-08 10:21:15 AM

The_Sponge: rufus-t-firefly: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Libderp ludicrous speed!

Those silly libs - favoring sanctions against South Africa for apartheid...wanting Augusto Pinochet tried for crimes against humanity...

The same libs who admire Fidel Castro.


Do you have some master list to know which libs are in both camps? Perhaps a secret one?
 
2013-04-08 10:21:31 AM
Goodnight, funnyman.
 
2013-04-08 10:21:33 AM

Jake Havechek: FOX News Channel has had a parade of Reagan fans gushing over Thatcher since the news came in.

You'd think she invented the motherfarking wheel.


She was a friend to Pinochet and apartheid. Of course they love her.
 
2013-04-08 10:21:33 AM

Psylence: Not exactly productive, but likely cathartic to people directly affected by her policies with poor impulse control.


I very much doubt that there are more than a handful of people on Fark who have been directly affected by her policies.  This is ideological hatred, pure and simple.
 
2013-04-08 10:21:57 AM
Wouldn't it be great if it's discovered that she had a long-running, torrid, absolutely filthy and jiggly affair with Reagan -- I mean one of those affairs with photos, videos, sheep, leather, and/or pinching?

That would be great....
 
2013-04-08 10:22:26 AM

Joe Blowme: So every dime you make after paying your bills you give to the poor right? I mean you dont need all that excess profit when other are suffering right? Or is that "someone elses job" to give thier profits away? Typical socialist, so generous with other peoples money.


I'd love to give more.  But with constant salary freezes, train fare increasing every 6 months and rent going up steadily every year it is hard to have anything left over to give monetarily.  I donate my time on a regular basis though.  I do what I can when I can.
 
2013-04-08 10:22:56 AM

FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.


So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?
 
2013-04-08 10:23:04 AM

FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.


Oh noes! And those drug patents are used to make PROFITS!

Thanks for "keeping it real", comrade.
 
2013-04-08 10:23:05 AM

The_Sponge: And I'm sorry that the profit motive frightens you.


It doesn't frighten me.  I just recognize it as inherently exploitative.
 
2013-04-08 10:23:05 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: FarkedOver: Joe Blowme: You are obviously an expert on running a business that can pay people thier fair share, right?

I can expertly say that workers should take control of the things that are used to exploit them.  That would be a good start.

Expertly? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!

I'm sorry the notion of workers controlling their own destiny and no longer having a need for the oh so wise owners and managers is laughable to you.  I'm sorry democratically run work places frighten you.


You really have no grasp on reality and how things work do you? Thank god for you moms basement huh?
 
2013-04-08 10:23:28 AM

Halli: muck4doo: Halli: muck4doo: doyner: muck4doo: Stay classy libs.

Yeah.  April 8, 2013: The day the moral high ground was ceded.

You never had moral high ground. That's why most people don't like you. Wanting to help the world but demonizing everyone who disagrees with your ways and means, then laughing when they die isn't a way to win hearts and minds.

Aww someone wants attention today. You are trying so hard in this thread.

The real attention whores are celebrating this woman's death. I'm saying it isn't right. Since when is saying act like a decent human being the act of an attention whore?

You started this thread off by ranting about communists and acting like an attention whore. You don't give a shiat about civility.


I went on a rant when I saw people dancing on her grave, like this guy did:

hillary: Or even better:

[i.imgur.com image 434x312]


Look at threads where people like Kenendy, Richards or any Dems died and i did that.
 
2013-04-08 10:23:37 AM

The_Sponge: Expertly? BWAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!


We already figured this out last week.  Every worker is an expert in his/her field.

FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.


Oh this will be interesting...
 
2013-04-08 10:23:41 AM

Kome: Civil_War2_Time: Stop watching/reading so much news...regardless of the source. You're projecting on how you feel most conservatives think, and that's not reality.

So... stop being informed and I'll have a better idea of how most conservatives think? You may wish to re-phrase that, because that is precisely how that statement comes off, and I'm willing to bet you did not intend it to come off that way. I'll grant you, however, that I did mean conservative politicians and not "all conservatives", so I as well need to be more careful about how I word things.

Thatcher very much deserves the ill-feelings so many liberals hold towards her, and frankly, she deserves a lot more ill-feelings from conservatives than she gets. She was a disaster.


I think (as I responded to another Farker) that the word "informed" is not a proper word to use in today's 24/7 news blitz. If you have an incredible sifter to get the real truth out of what you watch/read, then good for you...keep watching/reading. Otherwise, you're just listening/reading to talking heads spout venom to make you angry, which gets them ratings.

I'm not a Brit, so I can't comment on how she may, or may not have been a disaster while in office.
 
2013-04-08 10:24:09 AM

Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.

/does NHS cover butt hurt?

What is "The result of a world war bombing the shiat out of everything and only leaving room for improvement, Alex?"


Plus, noticed that corporatized skyline?

Cue announcer voice: This downtown has been brought to you by the very people who crashed the world economy, helped stagnate wages, and decrease your benefits!
 
2013-04-08 10:24:38 AM

GoldSpider: Psylence: Not exactly productive, but likely cathartic to people directly affected by her policies with poor impulse control.

I very much doubt that there are more than a handful of people on Fark who have been directly affected by her policies.  This is ideological hatred, pure and simple.


Considering the majority of farkers are either from north america (still suffering from reaganomics) or the uk (still getting over the 80's thatcher drearies), it is entirely possible that the great majority of farkers were and still are directly effected by her policies and indirectly effected by her influence on st. reagan (may urine and saliva be upon him).
 
2013-04-08 10:24:55 AM

FarkedOver: The_Sponge: And I'm sorry that the profit motive frightens you.

It doesn't frighten me.  I just recognize it as inherently exploitative.


So if I start a business, my goal should be to break even, not make a profit?
 
2013-04-08 10:25:04 AM

Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?


Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.
 
2013-04-08 10:25:12 AM

NateGrey: BMulligan: Her name was an anagram for "that great charmer." I know, because that was the Final Jeopardy question I got wrong when I appeared on the program. Just one more thing I hold against Margaret Thatcher.

Rod you ignorant slut.

Looks like you all go it wrong.


Yeah, we all got it wrong - if I had bet correctly, though, I would have won. Under the circumstances, betting nothing would have been the correct move.
 
2013-04-08 10:25:18 AM

Marine1: Halli: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: VonEvilstein: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

I don't recall the USSR being particularly evil towards the British populace, you know, the people that old harridan was meant to be representing...

Oh please. They had ICBMs trained on London.

Don't recall them ever launching any of them...

Yeah. Because people like Thatcher and Reagan gave them good reason not to.

Nuclear weapons already in their arsenal for several decades?

Yeah. That they could have launched at any time.


You're right, the US and UK were history's greatest monsters for threatening the people of Russia with nuclear annihilation.  oh wait, you didn't mean for that argument to cut both ways?

/iron lady made cheap steel
 
2013-04-08 10:25:52 AM

FarkinNortherner: Even if you applauded her policies, even if you think that the miners' strike had to be broken by any means, even if you think privatisation is the only appropriate response to the use of state assets, there's still this:



Margaret Thatcher with Augusto Pinochet, in 1999. Google 'DINA' if you don't know anything about Pinochet's time in government and/or you want to spend the day feeling nauseated.


Of course she loved old Augusto. Where do you think the brits got their Intel.from during the war with Argentina?
 
2013-04-08 10:26:02 AM

GoldSpider: I very much doubt that there are more than a handful of people on Fark who have been directly affected by her policies.


Did you know? The consequences of a ruler's time in office can outlast said ruler's tenure. Remember that when the first bill for the Iraq war comes in.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:03 AM

muck4doo: I went on a rant when I saw people dancing on her grave,


Not sure why you started visiting the politics tab again, it cant be good for your blood pressure.

What is it with Fark Cons taking an internet forum so seriously they have to be put into time out like children to be calmed down.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:07 AM

GoldSpider: Psylence: Not exactly productive, but likely cathartic to people directly affected by her policies with poor impulse control.

I very much doubt that there are more than a handful of people on Fark who have been directly affected by her policies.  This is ideological hatred, pure and simple.


And it is stupid.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:07 AM

muck4doo: No one gets into office with the goal of making the world a worse place.



Right.  Some get into office with the goal of making the world a better place.  For a very small minority.  At the cost of others.  Please see the first word of this paragraph if you need help figuring out what types do this.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:15 AM
RIP, Maggie - you had bigger balls than those who followed you.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:19 AM

beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: dwrash: Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.

Uh huh. I sure want a leader that does whatever they want regardless of public opinion.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x215]

I totally agree:

[www.conservapedia.com image 150x217]


impliedfacepalm.jpg
 
2013-04-08 10:26:25 AM

Civil_War2_Time: Kome: Civil_War2_Time: Stop watching/reading so much news...regardless of the source. You're projecting on how you feel most conservatives think, and that's not reality.

So... stop being informed and I'll have a better idea of how most conservatives think? You may wish to re-phrase that, because that is precisely how that statement comes off, and I'm willing to bet you did not intend it to come off that way. I'll grant you, however, that I did mean conservative politicians and not "all conservatives", so I as well need to be more careful about how I word things.

Thatcher very much deserves the ill-feelings so many liberals hold towards her, and frankly, she deserves a lot more ill-feelings from conservatives than she gets. She was a disaster.

I think (as I responded to another Farker) that the word "informed" is not a proper word to use in today's 24/7 news blitz. If you have an incredible sifter to get the real truth out of what you watch/read, then good for you...keep watching/reading. Otherwise, you're just listening/reading to talking heads spout venom to make you angry, which gets them ratings.

I'm not a Brit, so I can't comment on how she may, or may not have been a disaster while in office.


You don't really have to dig very deep to see how she privatized things and gave the cash to her supporters.  Many of her biggest crimes can be found on her wiki, you don't have to look hard.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:46 AM
Peace on the other side Ma'am.
 
2013-04-08 10:26:49 AM
 

YoOjo: I'm not a US liberal born in the 80s or whatever the assumption was further up.
Born in the 60s, British, apolitical.
Growing up in the 80s was farking grim in England, honestly, you can all laugh and joke, name-call and get your panties in a wad, but it was grim and we are still in the same mess as post-Thatcher all politicians here have morphed into the same sort of beast - posh boys that want to horde gold.


The ultimate analysis of Thatcher can be summed up that even while GDP was rising, there was always massive unemployment (it was mostly ~3m while she was in charge, dipping briefly to "just" 2m in the middle period). It was ~1.5m when she took over (despite the severe economic problems and union activism), and ~1.5m for most of "New Labour". Despite the recent crisis and double (triple?) dip recessions in recent years, it still hasn't reached such levels. Basically a common right wing economic strategy - get lots of people unemployed and desperate so that company owners have much more negotiating power to take all the profits from a growing economy onto themselves, obviously alongside the more obvious undermining of union power (their links to the Labour party needed to be weakened as they had too much power in the 70s, but they are still a useful counterbalance to large corporations taking advantage of the "working class")
 
2013-04-08 10:26:54 AM
image.lyricspond.com

/RIP Margaret
 
2013-04-08 10:27:21 AM
The irony is that Thatcher was supposed to have been such a badass, but it was during her reign that Britain finally exhaled the last, pathetic gasp of its international greatness and handed the baton to the United States once and for all.
 
2013-04-08 10:27:39 AM
Sheffield was one of many cities devastated by her stupid policies.
 
2013-04-08 10:27:54 AM

NateGrey: muck4doo: I went on a rant when I saw people dancing on her grave,

Not sure why you started visiting the politics tab again, it cant be good for your blood pressure.

What is it with Fark Cons taking an internet forum so seriously they have to be put into time out like children to be calmed down.


You aren't mistaken on that, yet i keep doing it over and over again.
 
2013-04-08 10:28:15 AM
upload.wikimedia.org
R.I.P. CAT SCRATCH FEVER
 
2013-04-08 10:28:52 AM

Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: dwrash: Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.

Uh huh. I sure want a leader that does whatever they want regardless of public opinion.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x215]

I totally agree:

[www.conservapedia.com image 150x217]

impliedfacepalm.jpg


The best part is that the image is from conservapedia, so you know it has truthiness!
 
2013-04-08 10:29:28 AM

ElPresidente: When subtitles go wrong - on the BBC News channel a few minutes ago, describing the route her coffin will take through London.


Oh Lord, the Daily Wail is going to love that.
 
2013-04-08 10:29:36 AM
This is how I'll always remember Margaret Thatcher...with laser eyes and a kitten body:
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/jada
 
2013-04-08 10:29:51 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: And I'm sorry that the profit motive frightens you.

It doesn't frighten me.  I just recognize it as inherently exploitative.

So if I start a business, my goal should be to break even, not make a profit?


I understand that if you start a business your duty as owner is to pay people as little as possible as to make a profit.
 
2013-04-08 10:29:56 AM

The_Sponge: FarkedOver: The_Sponge: And I'm sorry that the profit motive frightens you.

It doesn't frighten me.  I just recognize it as inherently exploitative.

So if I start a business, my goal should be to break even, not make a profit?


Already been done and works quite fine.
 
2013-04-08 10:30:20 AM

Lost Thought 00: She should be thought of the same as Reagan - at the time, reasonable and rational, but knowing what the world knows now, a complete f*cktard who nearly destroyed the world.


I remember when Reagan died.   All of the old time libs in Washington and the media stood in line to be able to pose next to a life sized cut out poster of him.  All of a sudden they loved him and acted like they always did.   All of those tools  are irrepressible wankers that make the move of the day for political ground.  When Carter dies, all of the republicans and Fox News will stand in line with the libs to fellate his corpse as well.
 
2013-04-08 10:30:21 AM

Bungles: No.10 has gone into absolute overdrive to pump out news to be buried today.


Go on...
 
2013-04-08 10:30:23 AM

Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.

/does NHS cover butt hurt?

What is "The result of a world war bombing the shiat out of everything and only leaving room for improvement, Alex?"


Oh, it's worse than that. For a while at least...

www.johndclare.net
 
2013-04-08 10:30:37 AM

The Snow Dog: The only rebuttal you need offer someone who says "women cannot be good leaders" is a slap across the face with a rolled-up:
[img.timeinc.net image 400x527]


she sure showed those sheep in the Faulklands what for!  Except of course for the Sheffield, blown to bits because of Maggie's pride and poor war leadership.

Had the Soviets crossed the line in the 80s, she would have ran and hid. Not so much the Iron Lady as the Rusted Pussy, pretends it's all her own work except when it's all her own fault.
 
2013-04-08 10:32:29 AM

diaphoresis: I love all the hate in this thread... justifies my thoughts on (the lack of) humanity. Even when Obama dies, I won't be hateful..

/I'm a better person than any Repub or Dem


citation needed
 
2013-04-08 10:33:06 AM
Prime Minister David Cameron was asked how he learned of the death of Margaret Thacher.
He replied, "The smell never changed but the riots suddenly stopped."
 
2013-04-08 10:33:59 AM

beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.

/does NHS cover butt hurt?

What is "The result of a world war bombing the shiat out of everything and only leaving room for improvement, Alex?"

What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib


Your answer wasn't in the form of a question.  You lose.
 
2013-04-08 10:33:59 AM
Rest in peace, Ma'am.
 
2013-04-08 10:34:04 AM

I'm no expert but...: I imagine there will be more than a few celebrations tonight.


It's not as if people weren't  prepared to see this  coming.

beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[people working]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[tons of chavs, coincidentally from employers' blacklisting the fark out of people]


FTFY.
 
2013-04-08 10:34:20 AM

Mark Ratner: lmao


Happy Hours: Well, I'm sure all your punk rock friends were very knowledgeable about world politics.


I'm sure you're very knowledgeable about punk rock... Or not.

The best and most influential punk bands were (and in many cases still are) very much political, from The Clash and Oi Polloi to Crass and Rudimentary Peni  to American bands such as Dead Kennedy's to more contemporary bands such as Anti-Flag.

You can feel free to disagree with the politics of punk (they are not as uniform as one might think though so it's pretty likely that you will find a punk band that espouses your views whether you're a teenage anarchist or a Tea Partier) or call them naive (with your condescension, that seems likely), but to say that punk bands lack knowledge or an interest in politics just shows that you lack knowledge about punk rock history and ideology.  And are completely unafraid to flaunt your ignorance.

www.jpc.de
 
2013-04-08 10:34:35 AM

PseUdononymous Savagery: When Carter dies, all of the republicans and Fox News will stand in line with the libs to fellate his corpse as well.


Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.
 
2013-04-08 10:34:53 AM

beta_plus: What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib


Troll harder. I can barely feel it. HARDER.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:06 AM

nekom: A huge force in history, whether you liked or hated her politics.  May she rest in peace.


Mussolini was also a huge force in politics, but I'm sure Humanity is also better off without him.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:38 AM

The Dog Ate My Homework: The irony is that Thatcher was supposed to have been such a badass, but it was during her reign that Britain finally exhaled the last, pathetic gasp of its international greatness and handed the baton to the United States once and for all.



Flight Suit Bush II with Kungfoo Action Grip was a badass, too. China's next I guess.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:44 AM

GoldSpider: PseUdononymous Savagery: When Carter dies, all of the republicans and Fox News will stand in line with the libs to fellate his corpse as well.

Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.


There will be dancing in the streets, as he was history's greatest monster.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:55 AM

markfara: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies.

No, she didn't. Neither did Reagan.

And with Putin and the like still in charge, it's kind of hard to make the case the the Soviet Union really "fell" very hard.


Same totalitarianism but different economic model.
 
2013-04-08 10:36:33 AM

beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

The UK Post-Thatcher:

[i.telegraph.co.uk image 460x288]

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.

/does NHS cover butt hurt?

What is "The result of a world war bombing the shiat out of everything and only leaving room for improvement, Alex?"

What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib


Bubby, British women quit having children for a while. The birth rate plummeted. Why? World War I killed their grandfathers, fathers, uncles; WWII killed their fathers, uncles, brothers, sons; Korea killed their fathers, uncles, brothers, sons.

The UK women just decided if their countries were going to send their loved ones off to die, the women just weren't going to make loved ones anymore.
 
2013-04-08 10:37:31 AM

GoldSpider: PseUdononymous Savagery: When Carter dies, all of the republicans and Fox News will stand in line with the libs to fellate his corpse as well.

Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.


Hahahah oh wow!
 
2013-04-08 10:37:34 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.


Do you have a 401k?
 
2013-04-08 10:37:46 AM

HotWingConspiracy: At least her spiritual successor is still here to guide us.

[austinisafecker.files.wordpress.com image 550x282]


LOL! Palin actually DID try to make herself into Thatcher 2.0 by going to the UK and asking for a visit to see Maggie (to help boost her conservative cred during the 2012 primaries, obviously). Thatcher and her staff wanted nothing to do with such a vapid glory whore and told her to sod off.
 
2013-04-08 10:38:40 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: PseUdononymous Savagery: When Carter dies, all of the republicans and Fox News will stand in line with the libs to fellate his corpse as well.

Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.

There will be dancing in the streets, as he was history's greatest monster.


I expect it to be more of a
www.cyclonefanatic.com
 
2013-04-08 10:38:48 AM

Haliburton Cummings: [i.imgur.com image 611x121]


Rot you withered ol' c0o0ont!


That reminds of unintentionally inappropriate website names.

Also, all I can think of is that Thatcher signed a non-agression pact with the Kro-Maggs on one Earth.
 
2013-04-08 10:39:10 AM

vygramul: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.

Do you have a 401k?


The company I work for contributes to my 401k.  I have zero deducted from my pay check.
 
2013-04-08 10:39:51 AM
beta_plus:
What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib


JEOPARDY DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 10:40:23 AM

FarkedOver: There will be dancing in the streets, as he was history's greatest monster.


Well for my pre-emptive contribution to that thread, Carter is a much better humanitarian than he was President.  His idealism (and naivete?) led him to believe those roles were one in the same.
 
2013-04-08 10:40:58 AM

Iron Chef Scottish: We're on our second bottle of champagne in this household.
Good riddance & a heartfelt fark you for what you did to our country.


Champagne? From France?
You, sir, are no true Scotsman!
 
Ehh
2013-04-08 10:41:13 AM

FarkinNortherner: Even if you applauded her policies, even if you think that the miners' strike had to be broken by any means, even if you think privatisation is the only appropriate response to the use of state assets, there's still this:

[news.bbc.co.uk image 300x180]

Margaret Thatcher with Augusto Pinochet, in 1999. Google 'DINA' if you don't know anything about Pinochet's time in government and/or you want to spend the day feeling nauseated.


This. Nobody made her shake hands with that butcher.
 
2013-04-08 10:41:22 AM

Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.


Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.
 
2013-04-08 10:41:25 AM

FarkedOver: vygramul: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.

Do you have a 401k?

The company I work for contributes to my 401k.  I have zero deducted from my pay check.


That you're not contributing isn't relevant. You have a 401k. You own some capital that profits off of someone's labor. It may be tiny, it may be far, far less than someone who is profiting off of your labor, but you're still doing it.
 
2013-04-08 10:41:30 AM
Darren Hayman said it best: "We will laugh/the day that thatcher dies / even though we know it's not right / we will dance and sing all night"

Is it wrong to be gleeful at another person's passing? Probably, but she was an objectively awful person who did objectively awful things. So let's get to dancing.
 
2013-04-08 10:41:44 AM

GoldSpider: FarkedOver: There will be dancing in the streets, as he was history's greatest monster.

Well for my pre-emptive contribution to that thread, Carter is a much better humanitarian than he was President.  His idealism (and naivete?) led him to believe those roles were one in the same.


I would semi-agree. He has been a better ex-president than he was a president. But sadly, his malaise speech was spot on.
 
2013-04-08 10:41:44 AM
Damn, you libs really hate her.  She must have been doing something right!
 
2013-04-08 10:42:37 AM
Challenge ran again. Where did I ever laugh at Kennedy dieing or any popular lib. Go ahead, find it. Some of you act so disgusting in pretend of what has happened before.
 
2013-04-08 10:42:59 AM

TV's Vinnie: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.


You're implying that it worked at some point.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:03 AM

FarkedOver: The company I work for contributes to my 401k. I have zero deducted from my pay check.


They don't do that unless you opt-in.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:10 AM

vygramul: That you're not contributing isn't relevant. You have a 401k. You own some capital that profits off of someone's labor. It may be tiny, it may be far, far less than someone who is profiting off of your labor, but you're still doing it.


I'm not doing it.  My company is perpetuating it.  One day when I'm fully vested I will withdraw all the money and donate to communist guerrillas, ok?
 
2013-04-08 10:43:13 AM
excellent work as always, RIP meme-rs.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:26 AM

The_Sponge: Better dead than red.


I`m glad you have decided that would be your course of action. It gives us a 50/50 hope for a better world.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:31 AM

BMulligan: NateGrey: BMulligan: Her name was an anagram for "that great charmer." I know, because that was the Final Jeopardy question I got wrong when I appeared on the program. Just one more thing I hold against Margaret Thatcher.

Rod you ignorant slut.

Looks like you all go it wrong.

Yeah, we all got it wrong - if I had bet correctly, though, I would have won. Under the circumstances, betting nothing would have been the correct move.


Must of been an awesome experience. Congrats on making it on the show.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:45 AM

FarkedOver: Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?

Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.


How?
 
2013-04-08 10:43:52 AM
Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.

Wow in a terrible terrible thread, somehow you managed to top everything.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:55 AM

m1ke: Damn, you libs really hate her.  She must have been doing something right!


i2.kym-cdn.com
OH - OH MY! HOW ORIGINAL AND FURTHERMORE
 
2013-04-08 10:44:48 AM

vygramul: No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.


Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well.  Or so I hear.
 
2013-04-08 10:45:37 AM

m1ke: Damn, you libs really hate her.  She must have been doing something right!


You guys really need to learn how to sit back and enjoy the epic butt hurt
 
2013-04-08 10:45:52 AM

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?

Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.

How?


Profit implies surplus.  Making a living means I don't want to die by starving or being exposed to the elements.  I work because I have to.  Owners of industry make obscene profits because..... 90 million is better than 89 million!!! Fark my workers!
 
2013-04-08 10:46:01 AM
I wish I could find the quote of John Cleese on the David Letterman show years ago.

A jovial Letterman asked a happy Cleese a question about Thatcher. Cleese became the Basil Fawlty from Hell in describing Thatcher.  Letterman almost fell out of his chair trying to back away from Cleese.

Rancorous quaffed old sow is tame compared to what Cleese said.
 
2013-04-08 10:46:29 AM

FarkedOver: vygramul: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.

Do you have a 401k?

The company I work for contributes to my 401k.  I have zero deducted from my pay check.


You world view is as pathetic as your retirement planning.
 
2013-04-08 10:46:43 AM

beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib

Troll harder. I can barely feel it. HARDER.

Fark - where using facts to show liberals how their philosophy is a complete failure is considered trolling.


Dude, you posted a fake caricature of obamacare with a sickle and hammer. Those are not facts. That's tiptoeing Poe's Law.

TROLL. HARDER.
 
2013-04-08 10:46:48 AM

beta_plus: Epoch_Zero: beta_plus: What is "using passive aggressive questions to hides one liberal butt hurt at being thoroughly schooled by others who you impotently and falsely accuse of logical fallacies, Alex?"

Answer:  Typical Fark Lib

Troll harder. I can barely feel it. HARDER.

Fark - where using facts to show liberals how their philosophy is a complete failure is considered trolling.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 10:46:58 AM

FarkedOver: vygramul: FarkedOver: GoldSpider: FarkedOver: How is what I do for a living relevant to anything?

I suppose a few of us are curious if there's a chance you are profiting on the backs of the poor.

Impossible.  I own no capital.  I am not capable of profiteering off of someone's labor.

Do you have a 401k?

The company I work for contributes to my 401k.  I have zero deducted from my pay check.


You could chose to work someplace else or liquify your 401k and give the proceeds away.
 
2013-04-08 10:47:01 AM

Epoch_Zero: dwrash: Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.

Uh huh. I sure want a leader that does whatever they want regardless of public opinion.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x215]


So what?.. he made a mistake.. and the democrats went right along with him.  We all, democrats, republicans and independents like myself are just as guilty as Bush was.
 
2013-04-08 10:47:18 AM

GoldSpider: vygramul: No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well.  Or so I hear.


The theory is it should be an international movement. Socialism in one country (i.e. Stalinism) is bogus and anti-marxist by it's very nature.
 
2013-04-08 10:47:20 AM
 
2013-04-08 10:48:32 AM

dwrash: Epoch_Zero: dwrash: Love her or hate her, she had the courage to go her own way and did't give a rats ass whether her party was coming along with her.

She is the embodyment of the kind of politician we need today.. instead we get the weak knee'd wusses that cave to even a small amount of public pressure.

Uh huh. I sure want a leader that does whatever they want regardless of public opinion.
[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x215]

So what?.. he made a mistake.. and the democrats went right along with him.  We all, democrats, republicans and independents like myself are just as guilty as Bush was.


Speak for yourself.
 
2013-04-08 10:48:41 AM
Not particular interest or affection for Thatcher but can't help but feeling another little bit of my youth was chipped away in hearing this. Dunno, weird feeling.
 
2013-04-08 10:48:47 AM
I'll admit, pretty much everything I learned about Thatcher is from the first run of Hellblazer.

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-04-08 10:48:54 AM

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?

Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.

How?

Profit implies surplus.  Making a living means I don't want to die by starving or being exposed to the elements.  I work because I have to.  Owners of industry make obscene profits because..... 90 million is better than 89 million!!! Fark my workers!


So you have no consumer goods in your house?
 
2013-04-08 10:49:03 AM
A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-04-08 10:49:05 AM

TV's Vinnie: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.


michellesegar.com www.sweettaterblog.com

et al. brought down the Soviet Union...IMHO
 
2013-04-08 10:49:17 AM

muck4doo: Challenge ran again. Where did I ever laugh at Kennedy dieing or any popular lib. Go ahead, find it. Some of you act so disgusting in pretend of what has happened before.


You're expressing disgust at libs. That suggests you think conservatives don't do it. So it's not a matter of finding something YOU said, but if there's a number of such dancing on graves of liberals. (Obviously, one or two comments wouldn't be enough.)

Let's pick one. Name a liberal politician who died recently and warranted a thread on fark. Let us see if there were conservatives crowing. If there were, you should amend your complaint to people in general who do this, not just level your ire at liberals while ignoring conservatives who do the same thing.

/I had a drink when Osama got nailed
//I'll have a drink when Castro finally gets to meet his maker
 
2013-04-08 10:49:35 AM

beta_plus: The UK Pre-Thatcher:

The UK Post-Thatcher

You lost libs and Labor.  Get over it.


London was the pre-eminent European centre for financial services before and after Thatcher but her policies did, in part, create that skyline and the bubble that blew up there, but not before they'd created another bubble in the City.

The development at Canary Wharf arose from the need to accomodate large numbers of computer terminals as electronic trading replaced traditional trading floors as well as the deregulation which permitted banks to operate outside the City. This initially led to a property boom, with vast valuations placed on the 'new' land freed up (courtesy of government money) at Canary Wharf.

Many of the buildings in the City which accomodated those trading floors lay empty for years after the move to Canary Wharf and the associated collapse in property values eventually knocked over Olympia and York Canary Wharf Limited. Some of them, such as the NatWest Tower (Tower 42) and Old Billingsgate Market, remain underutilised and state subsidised to this day.

Incidentally, I'm a top rate tax payer and I spend much of the week sitting in one of those buildings. Objectively I'm better off under the Tories. Shame about the rest of the country...
 
2013-04-08 10:50:36 AM

GoldSpider: vygramul: No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well.  Or so I hear.


Woah! Mind the attributions!
 
2013-04-08 10:50:46 AM

FarkedOver: The theory is it should be an international movement.


It also depends largely on ideological purity for it to work, which means it often must be enforced at the point of a gun.
 
2013-04-08 10:51:26 AM

Jackson Herring: Nevertheless I kind of expect (hope?) the Fark thread will contain much less spittle.

Wow in a terrible terrible thread, somehow you managed to top everything.


In a terrible terrible thread, it wasn't surprising you couldn't give any condolences. Your system has already failed.
 
2013-04-08 10:51:35 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: TV's Vinnie: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

[michellesegar.com image 228x270] [www.sweettaterblog.com image 311x248]

et al. brought down the Soviet Union...IMHO


I had literature teacher once tell us that "In this world, you don't send in militarism to beat people anymore. You send in Ronald McDonald and Barney." At the time I had no idea what he was talking about.
 
2013-04-08 10:51:43 AM
images2.wikia.nocookie.netRIP Mag Uruk Thraka
 
2013-04-08 10:51:56 AM

m1ke: Damn, you libs really hate her.  She must have been doing something right!


libs ended slavery. are you pro slavery?
 
2013-04-08 10:52:01 AM
Argentina is going to be party-central tonight
 
2013-04-08 10:52:10 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: vygramul: No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well.  Or so I hear.

The theory is it should be an international movement. Socialism in one country (i.e. Stalinism) is bogus and anti-marxist by it's very nature.


yeah yeah yeah, and when global socialism fails it's gonna because we didn't have a worker's revolution on Mars. I'm onto ya.
 
2013-04-08 10:52:28 AM

FarkedOver: GoldSpider: vygramul: No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well.  Or so I hear.

The theory is it should be an international movement. Socialism in one country (i.e. Stalinism) is bogus and anti-marxist by it's very nature.


Yes and no. Marx thought one country could be communist without the whole world being communist. But few ideologies state that it's the best for us but won't work for you. They all pretty much claim to be the best for everyone period.
 
2013-04-08 10:52:30 AM

vygramul: //I'll have a drink when Castro finally gets to meet his maker


Uh-oh looks like you need to turn in your Libtard Membership Card.
 
2013-04-08 10:52:44 AM

UNC_Samurai: Yes, the "dancing on their grave" attitude is an easy trap to fall into.

Yes, you are a better person for avoiding it.

No, wanting to ensure there's an accurate historical assessment of someone's record even in the immediate post-death period where the public "mourns" is not excessive; it's entirely appropriate, because that's when a person's legacy starts really getting heavily filtered.

Without giving the obvious examples, there are very rare occasions where someone so vile and whose existence diminished us as a species dies, and it's tough not to savor the end of their existence.  For many Vietnam veterans, that was McNamara or Westmoreland.  For Romanians, it was Ceaușescu.  For Doctor Who fans, it will be Michael Ian Grade.

I was too young and an American, so I don't have the first-hand perspective of the British who lived during her Ministry.  But from historical analysis, I can understand and sympathize with the people who today feel their country is better off without her.  I'm sure the same will happen the day Americans find out Dick Cheney has died.


How DARE you bring some kind of balanced and calmly rational observations into this thread, sir!

/not going to bother reading seven more comment pages of gushing by either side
//divisive leader, divisive post-death fark thread
///Fred Rogers needs to die more often, just to bring different people together in mourning
 
2013-04-08 10:52:46 AM

vygramul: Communism works just fine without outside influences poisoning the well. Or so I hear.

Woah! Mind the attributions!


Sentiments above not expressed by vygramul.  :)
 
2013-04-08 10:52:48 AM

Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:


It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.
 
2013-04-08 10:52:54 AM

TalenLee: I am reminded of Frankie Boyle:

"Her state funeral is going to cost nine million pounds. For that much money, you could buy a shovel and give it to every single Scottish person and we'd dig a hole deep enough that you could deliver her to Satan personally."


I didn't realize Hell was that close to the surface. Must make drilling for oil rather exciting.
 
2013-04-08 10:53:09 AM

TheShavingofOccam123: TV's Vinnie: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

[michellesegar.com image 228x270] [www.sweettaterblog.com image 311x248]

et al. brought down the Soviet Union...IMHO


The Soviets didn't fall, they simply went into hibernation. Putin has reawakened them
 
2013-04-08 10:53:09 AM

BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?

Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.

How?

Profit implies surplus.  Making a living means I don't want to die by starving or being exposed to the elements.  I work because I have to.  Owners of industry make obscene profits because..... 90 million is better than 89 million!!! Fark my workers!

So you have no consumer goods in your house?


How did we get to consumer goods? People think of socialism and communism and the abolition of private property as a bad thing.  They think commies are going to come in and seize their xbox or take their watch all in the name of the people.  The abolition of private property simply means to abolish private property that is used to exploit workers.  Let workers run the factories and produce consumer goods.
 
2013-04-08 10:53:57 AM

FlashHarry: m1ke: Damn, you libs really hate her.  She must have been doing something right!

libs ended slavery. are you pro slavery?


So did Republicans ;-)
 
2013-04-08 10:54:01 AM

beta_plus: does NHS cover butt hurt?


Unfortunately no. It also does not cover when your arse grows and your humanity shrinks to the point where all you are is an arse...
 
2013-04-08 10:54:17 AM

GoldSpider: FarkedOver: The theory is it should be an international movement.

It also depends largely on ideological purity for it to work, which means it often must be enforced at the point of a gun.


Yes.  I agree with that point of view as well.  Workers should be armed for eventual capitalist backlash if they do stage a revolution.
 
2013-04-08 10:54:27 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-04-08 10:55:06 AM

vygramul: But few ideologies state that it's the best for us but won't work for you. They all pretty much claim to be the best for everyone period.


Which is true, after the culling.
 
2013-04-08 10:55:15 AM

Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.


The argument is that he's a hypocrite.
 
2013-04-08 10:56:13 AM
t2.gstatic.com

my dad had this hanging in our basement for as long as I can remember
 
2013-04-08 10:56:27 AM

BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.


Thank you for making my point.
 
2013-04-08 10:56:45 AM

vygramul: muck4doo: Challenge ran again. Where did I ever laugh at Kennedy dieing or any popular lib. Go ahead, find it. Some of you act so disgusting in pretend of what has happened before.

You're expressing disgust at libs. That suggests you think conservatives don't do it. So it's not a matter of finding something YOU said, but if there's a number of such dancing on graves of liberals. (Obviously, one or two comments wouldn't be enough.)

Let's pick one. Name a liberal politician who died recently and warranted a thread on fark. Let us see if there were conservatives crowing. If there were, you should amend your complaint to people in general who do this, not just level your ire at liberals while ignoring conservatives who do the same thing.

/I had a drink when Osama got nailed
//I'll have a drink when Castro finally gets to meet his maker


If Fark conservatives are doing it too, it is disgusting, and they should be thrown to the trash. I really don't get the hate. Libs and Cons both want to try to improve the country in different ways. Neither goes into their thinking that they want to destroy the country. When we start looking at each other that we're done. Funny thing I have noticed, loony far left and loony far right often find themselves agreeing on things.
 
2013-04-08 10:56:46 AM

FarkedOver: Workers should be armed for eventual capitalist backlash if they do stage a revolution.


Can I assume you are skeptical of government's ongoing efforts to restrict private gun ownership?
 
2013-04-08 10:56:56 AM

FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: BgJonson79: FarkedOver: Nabb1: FarkedOver: Nabb1: "Intellectual property," eh? So you do drug patents or something?

Sadly.

So you personally profit not only from the labor of others but off of putting up barriers to many poor people obtaining medicine?

Personally profiting and making a living are two different things.

How?

Profit implies surplus.  Making a living means I don't want to die by starving or being exposed to the elements.  I work because I have to.  Owners of industry make obscene profits because..... 90 million is better than 89 million!!! Fark my workers!

So you have no consumer goods in your house?

How did we get to consumer goods? People think of socialism and communism and the abolition of private property as a bad thing.  They think commies are going to come in and seize their xbox or take their watch all in the name of the people.  The abolition of private property simply means to abolish private property that is used to exploit workers.  Let workers run the factories and produce consumer goods.


Having consumer goods implies surplus.
 
2013-04-08 10:57:13 AM

BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.


But that says nothing about his basic premise.  Hypocrites can have valid ideas.
 
2013-04-08 10:58:00 AM

Fart_Machine: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

Thank you for making my point.


How can his point be valid if he's not living it?
 
2013-04-08 10:58:54 AM

Lost Thought 00: TheShavingofOccam123: TV's Vinnie: Marine1: Like her or not, she helped precipitated the fall of the Soviet Union, which was far more evil than any of her policies. Rest in peace.

Well no. I was also alive during that time, and therefore, I had as much to do with the downfall of the Soviet Union as she or Reagan did.

No one brought down the Soviets. They did it to themselves. Their system simply.stopped.working.

[michellesegar.com image 228x270] [www.sweettaterblog.com image 311x248]

et al. brought down the Soviet Union...IMHO

The Soviets didn't fall, they simply went into hibernation. Putin has reawakened

reenslaved them

FTFMS

/thanks to oil and corruption
 
2013-04-08 10:59:08 AM

BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

Thank you for making my point.

How can his point be valid if he's not living it?


Just because someone doesn't practice what they preach does not automatically invalidate what they preach.
 
2013-04-08 10:59:16 AM

BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

Thank you for making my point.

How can his point be valid if he's not living it?


Basic logic?
 
2013-04-08 10:59:24 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

But that says nothing about his basic premise.  Hypocrites can have valid ideas.


True but the validity is questionable if they don't follow the ideas they're espousing.
 
2013-04-08 10:59:46 AM

GoldSpider: FarkedOver: Workers should be armed for eventual capitalist backlash if they do stage a revolution.

Can I assume you are skeptical of government's ongoing efforts to restrict private gun ownership?


I am against efforts to restrict gun ownership, yes.
 
2013-04-08 11:00:02 AM

muck4doo: vygramul: muck4doo: Challenge ran again. Where did I ever laugh at Kennedy dieing or any popular lib. Go ahead, find it. Some of you act so disgusting in pretend of what has happened before.

You're expressing disgust at libs. That suggests you think conservatives don't do it. So it's not a matter of finding something YOU said, but if there's a number of such dancing on graves of liberals. (Obviously, one or two comments wouldn't be enough.)

Let's pick one. Name a liberal politician who died recently and warranted a thread on fark. Let us see if there were conservatives crowing. If there were, you should amend your complaint to people in general who do this, not just level your ire at liberals while ignoring conservatives who do the same thing.

/I had a drink when Osama got nailed
//I'll have a drink when Castro finally gets to meet his maker

If Fark conservatives are doing it too, it is disgusting, and they should be thrown to the trash. I really don't get the hate. Libs and Cons both want to try to improve the country in different ways. Neither goes into their thinking that they want to destroy the country. When we start looking at each other that we're done. Funny thing I have noticed, loony far left and loony far right often find themselves agreeing on things.


True enough.
 
2013-04-08 11:00:21 AM

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

Thank you for making my point.

How can his point be valid if he's not living it?

Just because someone doesn't practice what they preach does not automatically invalidate what they preach.


It just means they don't believe it ;-)
 
2013-04-08 11:00:45 AM

NateGrey: Congrats on making it on the show.


Thanks.

For the record, I don't celebrate anyone's death. I sure as hell celebrated the woman's retirement, though.
 
2013-04-08 11:01:32 AM

FarkedOver: I am against efforts to restrict gun ownership, yes.


Credit where it's due, you're consistent there.
 
2013-04-08 11:01:52 AM

BgJonson79: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

But that says nothing about his basic premise.  Hypocrites can have valid ideas.

True but the validity is questionable if they don't follow the ideas they're espousing.


No it's not, they're separate arguments
 
2013-04-08 11:02:25 AM
I am saddened.
The best politician these islands have had in many a generation.

I acknowledge that there are those who did/do not agree with her politics and they are entitled to their opinion, as am I.

Rest in Peace, Maggie.
 
2013-04-08 11:02:35 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

Thank you for making my point.

How can his point be valid if he's not living it?

Basic logic?


He's saying collectivist policies are great but he's not following them. Why not follow them unless something else is better?
 
2013-04-08 11:03:15 AM
www.myconfinedspace.com

/Rip Mags
 
2013-04-08 11:03:17 AM
usedwigs.com

RIP Todd Margaret

/a true English gentleman, raised in Leeds
 
2013-04-08 11:03:32 AM
So, what would be the protocols for a Maggie Death Party?  What would be the drink of choice?  How should they dress?  And what will be the curfew before the bobbies come out with the billy clubs?
 
2013-04-08 11:03:56 AM

BgJonson79: Why not follow them unless something else is better?


Current entrenchment in a system that would deny his continued survival if he followed them?

Are you this dense?
 
2013-04-08 11:04:07 AM

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: BgJonson79: Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: BgJonson79: Fart_Machine: Epoch_Zero: A visual representation of this thread, featuring  FarkedOver:

It's also a pretty good illustration of ad hominem. Nobody is addressing his argument; they're berating his job and retirement plan.

The argument is that he's a hypocrite.

But that says nothing about his basic premise.  Hypocrites can have valid ideas.

True but the validity is questionable if they don't follow the ideas they're espousing.

No it's not, they're separate arguments


Why not follow a good idea?
 
2013-04-08 11:04:15 AM