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2013-04-08 10:26:20 AM
The moniker fits - talk radio host Mike Gallagher really is the "happy conservative warrior."

You're trying too hard.
 
2013-04-08 10:27:03 AM
Happy Conservative Warrir Dick Rapington doesn't hate liberals, he just wants to rape them into a highly regressive tax system.
 
2013-04-08 10:27:44 AM
The moniker fits - talk radio host Mike Gallagher really is the "happy conservative warrior."

And we all know what 'happy' is code for.
 
2013-04-08 10:29:30 AM
"I don't have the level of vitriol and hatred for the other side as some of my colleagues do," he said. "I think people appreciate that.

www.ihatethemedia.com

Yea.

Just not many, unfortunately.
 
2013-04-08 10:33:42 AM
I have no idea who Mike Gallagher is. I'm guessing most conservatives don't either.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:11 AM
Unfortunately, None of the people on that chart are conservative. Republican, certainly. Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all. But not conservative.
 
2013-04-08 10:35:15 AM
Also, note that he said he doesn't hate people. Unfortunately, when it benefits him, he still has no problem being just as dishonest or unnecessarily confrontational as his cohorts.

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2013-04-08 10:36:25 AM
Happy conservative warrior mercenary, Mike Gallagher, says he "doesn't hate liberals"  he just wishes they knew who he was.
 
2013-04-08 10:37:41 AM

coeyagi: Happy Conservative Warrir Dick Rapington doesn't hate liberals, he just wants to rape them into a highly regressive tax system.


No no, imprison them for highly targeted social laws in prison operated by his friends private prison corporation
 
2013-04-08 10:38:27 AM

cubic_spleen: Unfortunately, None of the people on that chart are conservative. Republican, certainly. Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all. But not conservative.


Ed Schultz is a Republican?
 
2013-04-08 10:39:38 AM

cubic_spleen: Unfortunately, None of the people on that chart are conservative. Republican, certainly. Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all. But not conservative.


But how many of them are Scotsmen?
 
2013-04-08 10:43:18 AM
Please remember that there are only two stark choices and no middle ground.  You're either with us or against us.  And you must fit into one category or the other at all times.  So pick a side and start acting like a moran.
 
2013-04-08 10:43:44 AM

cubic_spleen: Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all.


Right. Conservatives.

Just because you don't like the fact that this is where the conservative ideology has gone over the last twenty years doesn't mean it hasn't gone there. If you don't like the fact that American Conservatism is dominated by racism, sexism, classism, xenophobia, reactionary whining, and petulant, foot-stomping obstructionism for obstructionism's sake, try getting some other conservatives together and taking back your ideology from the nutbags you handed the reins to just because you were angry that Bill Clinton got a blowjob and some school district's were forced to acknowledge that freedom of religion applies to religions besides Christianity.

Conservatism is people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. And the intelligent conservatives back in the seventies warned you it was going to happen when people like Falwell started the whole thing.
 
2013-04-08 10:49:27 AM
On the issue, Gallagher himself says he is a strong believer in civil unions as far as the government is concerned and that churches should marry whoever the churches want to marry.

"When I hear the word inevitability, I think that's probably true," Gallagher said of gay marriage. "I think it's inevitable that it's going to change. I think we have to have a deep degree of compassion and a strong sense of fairness, but I do believe most Americans aren't comfortable with redefining marriage. But I also don't think Americans want people hurt or discriminated against."


The government no longer issuing "marriages" is a "redefinition" of marriage already, champ.  You can't have your cake and eat it, too - either we're changing things (by letting the gays get married; everything else is window dressing) or we're not (by being supreme dickholes and not updating marriage for like the 8th time since 1900).

It's like walking along a railing racking your nuts on it every 3rd step - sure, you'll eventually cross, but at huge cost and with zero style. And whatever onlookers are there aren't watching to see you cross, they're keeping a "testicle-crush" count.
 
2013-04-08 10:49:54 AM
I DON'T HATE LIBERALS, I JUST CONSIDER THEM INFERIOR FORMS OF LIFE
 
2013-04-08 10:52:23 AM
Fun fact: Asians and Pacific Islanders on averages eat more watermelon than Hispanics (#2), Non-Hispanic Whites (#3), or Non-Hispanic Blacks (#4). Although to be fair, most studies show Watermelon consumption by whites compared to blacks being virtually equal, it's just Asians in this country that far outpace other races in their consumption of the fruit.

This is a weird stereotype where either due to the social stigmata or other factors the idea that black people favor watermelons is the opposite of the actual case.

In general most "black food" is in fact just Southern cuisine in general, which considering the racial concentration of this country means making a racial connection to the dishes rather than a cultural one. With modern fruit growing and transportation technology there is very little in the way of "local" fruit. Insulting a black person as being partial to watermelon makes about as much sense as mocking Catholics for being weirdos for holding mass in Latin. What little sense the stereotype might have ever had has been gone for a long time.
 
2013-04-08 10:56:29 AM
I DON'T HATE OR FEAR GAYS OR GAY MARRIAGE.  I AM JUST AGAINST THEM /  IT FOR REASONS THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE MADE CLEAR TO YOU.

//legit, it seems.
///conservatism - just because we're against you having civil rights, doesn't mean we wouldn't buy you a beer*
*during happy hour, and only domestic bottles
 
2013-04-08 10:59:11 AM
If liberals weren't so angry and divisive, nobody would listen to this guy.
 
2013-04-08 11:02:58 AM

BitwiseShift: Happy conservative warrior mercenary, Mike Gallagher, says he "doesn't hate liberals"  he just wishes they knew who he was.


Gallagher is alright sometimes, his male/female stuff is pretty good.  Got to turn him off when he gets bible thumpy or anti abortion though.  Dude went through some major h3ll a few years back when his wife got sick and died.
 
2013-04-08 11:04:05 AM

Grungehamster: Fun fact: Asians and Pacific Islanders on averages eat more watermelon than Hispanics (#2), Non-Hispanic Whites (#3), or Non-Hispanic Blacks (#4). Although to be fair, most studies show Watermelon consumption by whites compared to blacks being virtually equal, it's just Asians in this country that far outpace other races in their consumption of the fruit.

This is a weird stereotype where either due to the social stigmata or other factors the idea that black people favor watermelons is the opposite of the actual case.

In general most "black food" is in fact just Southern cuisine in general, which considering the racial concentration of this country means making a racial connection to the dishes rather than a cultural one. With modern fruit growing and transportation technology there is very little in the way of "local" fruit. Insulting a black person as being partial to watermelon makes about as much sense as mocking Catholics for being weirdos for holding mass in Latin. What little sense the stereotype might have ever had has been gone for a long time.


This is probably true (the asians eating watermelon part). I'm mostly asian and I eat an astounding amount of fruit. It's 8am right now PST and I just had 2 bananas, two tomatoes, and a kent mango. probably will have at least one more banana and a bunch of berries later. it's awesome to live in a place where fruit is affordable.

I lived in alaska for a while. good luck having much in the way of warm weather fruit there.. nothing but apples and blackberries for you, buddy...

I really don't get the whole anxiety over cultural food choices. asians eat plenty of rice, that's true... you betcha they eat a lot of rice-based dishes. blacks eat a lot of fried dishes (I guess southerners in general). african blacks on the other hand have very different food choices, and culture as well.

if you haven't been to an african restaurant (ie., ethiopian), try it sometime. the one thing I had the MOST difficult time getting used to was the complete lack of utensils (not even a spoon!) and the cultural practice of literally feeding your friends at the table. with your fingers. in their mouths. and you're eating what looks like curry...
 
2013-04-08 11:05:45 AM

skozlaw: Also, note that he said he doesn't hate people. Unfortunately, when it benefits him, he still has no problem being just as dishonest or unnecessarily confrontational as his cohorts.

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LIberals hate steak?  Whu?  Do people really think that is true and/or funny?
 
2013-04-08 11:09:25 AM

ps69: Do people really think that is true and/or funny?



When has that ever been a concern for conservatives? If it's in print, and it rags on liberals, it must be funny and/or true.
 
2013-04-08 11:09:54 AM

skozlaw: And the intelligent conservatives back in the seventies warned you it was going to happen when people like Falwell started the whole thing.


This is why I have no patience for the so-called moderate Republicans who whine about how their party has left them behind. They welcomed the nutjobs with open arms even though smart people on both sides of the aisle were warning them it would end in disaster. Their party didn't leave them. They pushed it away, and the rest of us have been paying the price ever since.
 
2013-04-08 11:10:02 AM
Another 'Warrior' who never served...(at least according to wikipedia)
 
2013-04-08 11:11:03 AM

ps69: skozlaw: Also, note that he said he doesn't hate people. Unfortunately, when it benefits him, he still has no problem being just as dishonest or unnecessarily confrontational as his cohorts.

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LIberals hate steak?  Whu?  Do people really think that is true and/or funny?


I'm a hippie-goth lib low carb frou frou bookreading harpy, and my two main food groups are meat and cheese.  So I don't know where that puts me.  I can 'pass' at a Texas BBQ party, I guess.
 
2013-04-08 11:11:19 AM

Philip Francis Queeg: But how many of them are Scotsmen?


I don't see why so many Farkers take offense at the whole "American conservatives aren't conservative" thing. Ask anybody who's ever lived in a first-world country without Republicans; they're not conservatives by any definition, they're, as he said, batshiat insane regressives. He's not defending anybody or anything and there's nothing "No true Scotsman" about it, it's just a commentary on how far to the right America's political discourse has been dragged in recent years. It'd be like getting upset at somebody pointing out that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't really democratic. If anything, it should be shouted from the rooftops that "Conservative" is nothing but another right-wing lie.
 
2013-04-08 11:11:32 AM

Dr Dreidel: On the issue, Gallagher himself says he is a strong believer in civil unions as far as the government is concerned and that churches should marry whoever the churches want to marry.

"When I hear the word inevitability, I think that's probably true," Gallagher said of gay marriage. "I think it's inevitable that it's going to change. I think we have to have a deep degree of compassion and a strong sense of fairness, but I do believe most Americans aren't comfortable with redefining marriage. But I also don't think Americans want people hurt or discriminated against."

The government no longer issuing "marriages" is a "redefinition" of marriage already, champ.  You can't have your cake and eat it, too - either we're changing things (by letting the gays get married; everything else is window dressing) or we're not (by being supreme dickholes and not updating marriage for like the 8th time since 1900).

It's like walking along a railing racking your nuts on it every 3rd step - sure, you'll eventually cross, but at huge cost and with zero style. And whatever onlookers are there aren't watching to see you cross, they're keeping a "testicle-crush" count.


People need to figure out the difference between a wedding and a marriage: you can have one without the other. A marriage is a legal contract, a wedding is a ceremony recognizing two people as committed to one another.

The number of people who say they oppose gay marriage because they're afraid of churches getting sued for refusing to marry gay people either have no idea what they're talking about or are being purposefully deceitful. Nobody ever forces a church to WED anyone, and plenty of gay people have actually WED in states where it was illegal for them to MARRY. And then you have the geniuses who say "government shouldn't give any marriage certificates and should reform the tax code to get ride of marriage benefits, then gays won't have anything to complain about." Our common law system has a major focus on kinship, and as a result having a contract that establishes yourself as next of kin to someone you have no blood relationship with is vital to any sort of civil dispute. Marriage is too important to law to get rid of.

This "we support civil unions!" gambit can't work anyway: of the 25 states that banned gay marriage by amendment to their state constitution, 19 of them included language stated that also banned the state from establishing alternative civil unions or domestic partnerships that bestow the same rights as marriages provide to straight couples. This "we support gay couples, we just want them to push for civil unions instead" ignores that they have done nearly to shut off that avenue as they have shut off access to marriage.
 
2013-04-08 11:13:11 AM

Grungehamster: In general most "black food" is in fact just Southern cuisine in general


I don't think that's historically true. "Soul food" is a distinctive sub-category of southern cuisine best described as "gross left-over shiat that nobody with any capacity to eat virtually anything else would ever touch".  I think as social and economic burdens lifted, white people probably started eating the good parts of "black food" (fark you in your racist faces, chicken wings are awesome) and black people stopped eating their shiatty stuff that they only ate before because they couldn't afford to let anything no matter how nasty, go to waste (let's face it, tripe is disgusting no matter who has to eat it).

I'm sure the lines are heavily blurred now, but I'd bet those stereotypes came from valid observations when black people in the south were still (well... much more so than now, anyway) openly discriminated against, creating economic pressures toward certain dishes.
 
2013-04-08 11:13:14 AM
Fluorescent Testicle: ... upset at somebody for pointing out ...

/FTFM.
 
2013-04-08 11:13:26 AM

skozlaw: Also, note that he said he doesn't hate people. Unfortunately, when it benefits him, he still has no problem being just as dishonest or unnecessarily confrontational as his cohorts.

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As a semi-self-professed liberal that drives a V-8, enjoys football and aspires to a successful existence that doesn't have me living in a shiatty apartment with neighbors above, below and to either side of me in my old age, does that mean I hate myself?
 
2013-04-08 11:15:27 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: batshiat insane regressives


QTF
 
2013-04-08 11:19:48 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: I don't see why so many Farkers take offense at the whole "American conservatives aren't conservative" thing


Because it's usually meant to absolve the speaker of the sins of the American Conservative movement, not to remind us of a nuance definition. For example, nobody on the Right said "George W. Bush isn't really a Conservative" when he was standing on the deck of the USS Lincoln. But now that things went to hell suddenly we get lectures on how he's not really a Conservative even though Conservatives "stayed the course" with him for eight years.
 
2013-04-08 11:20:29 AM

The Why Not Guy: This is why I have no patience for the so-called moderate Republicans who whine about how their party has left them behind. They welcomed the nutjobs with open arms even though smart people on both sides of the aisle were warning them it would end in disaster. Their party didn't leave them. They pushed it away, and the rest of us have been paying the price ever since.


All they cared about was votes. Same as when they embraced the teabaggers in 2009/10. Absolutely no concern for the consequences.

Now they can drown in their own tears as far as I'm concerned. Republicanism is beyond redemption. It needs to just go away so it can be replaced by something reasonable, intelligent, honest and more concerned with making the country successful than winning elections and "stickin' it to the libs".
 
2013-04-08 11:24:07 AM

The Why Not Guy: Fluorescent Testicle: I don't see why so many Farkers take offense at the whole "American conservatives aren't conservative" thing

Because it's usually meant to absolve the speaker of the sins of the American Conservative movement, not to remind us of a nuance definition. For example, nobody on the Right said "George W. Bush isn't really a Conservative" when he was standing on the deck of the USS Lincoln. But now that things went to hell suddenly we get lectures on how he's not really a Conservative even though Conservatives "stayed the course" with him for eight years.


Really, no different than labeling yourself a Fark Independent after the 2008 election, yet repeating the GOP talking points almost verbatim.
 
2013-04-08 11:30:33 AM

skozlaw: let's face it, tripe is disgusting no matter who has to eat it


Never had it in pho, have you? I mean, I prefer actual the meat-strips to tripe, but in pho, it ain't half bad.

// texture's a bit weird, but you'll get over it
 
2013-04-08 11:46:05 AM

Dr Dreidel: skozlaw: let's face it, tripe is disgusting no matter who has to eat it

Never had it in pho, have you? I mean, I prefer actual the meat-strips to tripe, but in pho, it ain't half bad.

// texture's a bit weird, but you'll get over it


There's an Ethiopian dish called dulet that's made with tripe and it's pretty good.  I prefer tripe in pho though.
 
2013-04-08 11:49:41 AM
This thread is unexpectedly awesome.
 
2013-04-08 11:57:44 AM
"Happy" my arse, this guy is in a perpetual state of sputtering annoyance. Of all the Salem hosts he's definitely the loose cannon of the bunch. Still it was highly enjoyable listening to his show the morning after the election; I thought he was going to stroke out on the air.
 
2013-04-08 12:00:11 PM

cubic_spleen: Unfortunately, None of the people on that chart are conservative. Republican, certainly. Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all. But not conservative.


True.  A lot of people misinterpret "liberal" and "conservative" and they misinterpret the holy hell out of "libertarian" and "socialist".  But those people don't get that simply signing your name to a form might make you a Dem or GOP, but you need genuine philosophical views to be those others.

Besides, PEOPLE aren't "liberal" or "conservative", views on various issues are.
 
2013-04-08 12:06:35 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Please remember that there are only two stark choices and no middle ground.


Nor ground to the outside.

If this were a football field, Democrats would be milling about the 50 yard line, and Republicans would be milling around the goalpost in the South endzone (and likely ready to move that goalpost when necessary).

/Meanwhile, a majority of Americans are in the North side of the field.
 
2013-04-08 12:20:12 PM

Grungehamster: Fun fact: Asians and Pacific Islanders on averages eat more watermelon than Hispanics (#2), Non-Hispanic Whites (#3), or Non-Hispanic Blacks (#4). Although to be fair, most studies show Watermelon consumption by whites compared to blacks being virtually equal, it's just Asians in this country that far outpace other races in their consumption of the fruit.

This is a weird stereotype where either due to the social stigmata or other factors the idea that black people favor watermelons is the opposite of the actual case.

In general most "black food" is in fact just Southern cuisine in general, which considering the racial concentration of this country means making a racial connection to the dishes rather than a cultural one. With modern fruit growing and transportation technology there is very little in the way of "local" fruit. Insulting a black person as being partial to watermelon makes about as much sense as mocking Catholics for being weirdos for holding mass in Latin. What little sense the stereotype might have ever had has been gone for a long time.


Yum, watermelon

(non-Hispanic white)
 
2013-04-08 12:36:19 PM

Tyrano Soros: If liberals weren't so angry and divisive, nobody would listen to this guy.


The old "Why do you make me have to hit you" is a classic. Nice work.
 
2013-04-08 01:14:37 PM
Conservative media blowhards who last actually love liberals.  How could they make so much money with so little work without them?

/needs to get in on that action
 
2013-04-08 01:18:18 PM
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He does hate watermelons.
 
2013-04-08 01:50:02 PM

ps69: skozlaw: Also, note that he said he doesn't hate people. Unfortunately, when it benefits him, he still has no problem being just as dishonest or unnecessarily confrontational as his cohorts.

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LIberals hate steak?  Whu?  Do people really think that is true and/or funny?


I guess because more vegetarians probably identify as left-leaning than right-leaning (dunno if that's true or not, just guessing based on personal experience). Apparently Mr. G. never learned the logical concept that just because some x belong to group y does not mean that all in group y belong to x.

It's a deliberate troll attempt because I find it hard to believe he is really that dumb, but the fact that it might piss off a liberal (because it is factually incorrect, not because it somehow strikes a nerve) is enough to make conservatives want to buy it.

Modern conservatism in a nutshell: Does it piss off liberals, real or imagined? I'm all for it!
 
2013-04-08 01:52:44 PM
For those who haven't heard the Happy Warrior's show, subby nailed it. The guy is obsessed with race issues. Not the way all right wing talk show hosts are - this guy, at least once per show, drops some nugget about how the white race is being crushed underfoot the black oppressors. I heard his show once while randomly chanel surfing and was kind of appalled at his blatent racism, and I found myself tuning in again and again and again like a drinking game, waiting for that night's inevitable bit of awfulness.

His insane rants about Trayvon Martin were beyond the pale.

The best part? His main identity is as a Christian. Like, he doesn't just reference it when convienent like a lot of hosts - he's Christian first, conservative second, republican third and human last. So, it's all that much funnier to imagine Jesus face-palming after every despicable broadcast.

Also, he does musical theatre, which is off-putting.
 
2013-04-08 02:11:23 PM

skozlaw: cubic_spleen: Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all.

Right. Conservatives.

Just because you don't like the fact that this is where the conservative ideology has gone over the last twenty years doesn't mean it hasn't gone there. If you don't like the fact that American Conservatism is dominated by racism, sexism, classism, xenophobia, reactionary whining, and petulant, foot-stomping obstructionism for obstructionism's sake, try getting some other conservatives together and taking back your ideology from the nutbags you handed the reins to just because you were angry that Bill Clinton got a blowjob and some school district's were forced to acknowledge that freedom of religion applies to religions besides Christianity.

Conservatism is people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. And the intelligent conservatives back in the seventies warned you it was going to happen when people like Falwell started the whole thing.


I'm saying there is a difference between "conservative" and "unreconstructed reactionary throwback". That traditionally conservative groups have stampeded to the right does not mean that conservatism has followed in their wake. They have moved down the spectrum, but the spectrum has not moved with them.
 
2013-04-08 02:14:39 PM
From the article, I don't really see a difference between him and all his hateful brethren.   He believes all the same things, believes in all the same policies and dreams of electric fences with armed guards shooting people at the boarder, just wants to be polite about it!


"If there was one standard bearer, I'd use Marco Rubio as the example," he said. "I think there's going to be a huge future for Rubio. Clearly, there's a lot of outreaching to do - Republicans have to outreach to Latinos."

Dude, if you think Rubio is the way to reach out to Latinos, that just shows that you don't even understand the problem at all.  It's like thinking Herman Cain is the way to reach out to blacks.

And, the best:
But I think the Rand Pauls, the Ted Cruzes, that's the future of the party."

Yeah, that pretty much shows it.

You complain that the Democrats want you to move to the center, without even acknowledging how far your party has moved to the right.  You really think that McCain and Romney were moderates?  How warped is your political spectrum?  That's the problem with the Republican party.  By their claims, there's NEVER been a "conservative" ever.  Not a single senator, rep, or president meets their standards.

Well, except maybe Joe McCarthy.
 
2013-04-08 02:18:21 PM

cubic_spleen: I'm saying there is a difference between "conservative" and "unreconstructed reactionary throwback"


I'm not seeing a difference.
 
2013-04-08 02:21:13 PM

cubic_spleen: skozlaw: cubic_spleen: Reactionary, batshiat-insane dominionist wingnuts, all.

Right. Conservatives.

Just because you don't like the fact that this is where the conservative ideology has gone over the last twenty years doesn't mean it hasn't gone there. If you don't like the fact that American Conservatism is dominated by racism, sexism, classism, xenophobia, reactionary whining, and petulant, foot-stomping obstructionism for obstructionism's sake, try getting some other conservatives together and taking back your ideology from the nutbags you handed the reins to just because you were angry that Bill Clinton got a blowjob and some school district's were forced to acknowledge that freedom of religion applies to religions besides Christianity.

Conservatism is people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck. And the intelligent conservatives back in the seventies warned you it was going to happen when people like Falwell started the whole thing.

I'm saying there is a difference between "conservative" and "unreconstructed reactionary throwback". That traditionally conservative groups have stampeded to the right does not mean that conservatism has followed in their wake. They have moved down the spectrum, but the spectrum has not moved with them.


Who would you consider to be an example of an actual "Conservative"?
 
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