When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.

Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.

This is the film Raimi wanted to make but could not afford, so I don't have a problem with it, as I'm sure some fanboys might.

The commentary track with just Bruce Campbell on the original Evil Dead DVD is farking hilarious.

hubiestubert:  Pretty dang much.

It's no "I Spit on Your Grave" but yeah, it's The Evil Dead. Did folks think that it was about sunshine and kittens? It was a film that had its roots in the splatter gore of a LOT of movies previous. Friday the 13th, Halloween, and a brazillion Full Moon movies. Cripes folks, if you don't want to see it, then don't go. No one makes you, you know...

With the exception of Halloween, I think your chronology is a bit wonky.

/Unless you're referring to the remake

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

Errrr...........no.

Galileo's Daughter: Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.

In general, anyone who denies we accept bloodletting as entertainment simply prefers a form of entertainment where you get to act more shocked when the gore is finally presented.  Humans want to either be repulsed by violence to experience it vicariously and feel safer from it, or they want to laugh at violence to desensitize it and claim power over it.   Only psychopaths aren't rewarded by their brains for seeing violence and either fleeing from it or confronting it.  That's more or less how our brain chemistry works.  Of course we exploit that for profit.

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

That was Johnny Depp.

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

Are you trolling horror nerds with an incorrect Nightmare on Elm Street reference in a Sam Raimi thread?

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

You have your franchises mixed I think.  KB was in Friday the 13th

Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

Jake Havechek: Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

Errrr...........no.

That was Johnny Depp.

TheShavingofOccam123: When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.

What if they ask you if you're a god?

Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.

Tyrone Slothrop: TheShavingofOccam123: When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.

What if they ask you if you're a god?

If they have to ask....fark em.

Mr Guy: Galileo's Daughter: Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.

In general, anyone who denies we accept bloodletting as entertainment simply prefers a form of entertainment where you get to act more shocked when the gore is finally presented.  Humans want to either be repulsed by violence to experience it vicariously and feel safer from it, or they want to laugh at violence to desensitize it and claim power over it.   Only psychopaths aren't rewarded by their brains for seeing violence and either fleeing from it or confronting it.  That's more or less how our brain chemistry works.  Of course we exploit that for profit.

Also, remember this is not real.  Movies are fantasy which transports us from the daily mundane.  We know when we go to see a horror/gore movie that no one was killed, no one was hurt, no matter how realistic it appears.

There were many decapitations in the movie - self-inflicted and otherwise - and the characters kept chugging along while missing an arm.  If that were to happen in RL, that person would immediately pass out from shock and die from blood loss.  Not in the movies!

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

scottydoesntknow: And this:

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is how you piss off multiple sci-fi/fantasy fans in one picture.

Josh was my favorite character in Lost

Nobody tell this guy about the dumb "torture porn" thing.

markfara: Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.

I liked it.  shut up.

I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.

Bonanza Jellybean: Nobody tell this guy about the dumb "torture porn" thing.

The meaningless phrase that prudes use to deride horror films they don't like, you mean? Yeah, we would all be better off without that trite descriptor.

Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.

No spoilers here, but it's not worth sitting through the credits for (unless you're a total fanboy, in which case you'll laugh yourself silly).

Mugato: markfara: Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.

Then why did you see it in the first place?

Because of the good reviews. I never said I wasn't a sucker. . . .

About 90 percent of the new film's running time consists of finding brutal and bloody ways to kill a person, including shotgun blasts, nail guns, broken mirror shards, strangulations, drowning, electrocution, burning and live burial. I haven't even mentioned the dungeon full of rotting cat corpses hanging from the ceiling, the dog that has its throat slashed, the moving tree branches that violate a woman (don't ask), and the numerous forced or accidental amputations along the way.


Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?

/I will probably rent this. I cannot get my wife to watch TWD let alone something a little scary.

Saiga410: About 90 percent of the new film's running time consists of finding brutal and bloody ways to kill a person, including shotgun blasts, nail guns, broken mirror shards, strangulations, drowning, electrocution, burning and live burial. I haven't even mentioned the dungeon full of rotting cat corpses hanging from the ceiling, the dog that has its throat slashed, the moving tree branches that violate a woman (don't ask), and the numerous forced or accidental amputations along the way.


Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?

/I will probably rent this. I cannot get my wife to watch TWD let alone something a little scary.

Honestly, TWD has more scares and suspense than the Evil Dead remake.

bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.

markfara: Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.

No spoilers here, but it's not worth sitting through the credits for (unless you're a total fanboy, in which case you'll laugh yourself silly).

I giggled like a school girl, thank you very much.  These were the movies that made me a fan of Bruce.  And I would love to see another Army of Darkness.  And since Sam, Bruce and Bob are all producers, they will do it right.

Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.

I found this.

Saiga410: Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?

Nope, its not quite what you think it will be nor is it anything exactly like the original but there is some deciduous barking going on.

I saw it... to be honest I thought it was pretty meh. I mean it was ultraviolent, and I do stress ultraviolent but I will credit this the movie used a masterful plot point to start kicking things off and IMHO wasn't used nearly enough.

I saw this movie Saturday morning at my local Alamo Theater...
I was the ONLY one there that only...the movie played for me and me alone.
Nice!
I loved the farkin thing. It was great...nice new premise, exceptionally brutal...bloody, gory...
And yes, scary!
I'm as pleased as I was when Hills Have Eyes was remade.
It's just like that; more brutality, more blood, more shock than the original.
And that's saying alot!
Keep bringing back these remakes as long as you make em meaner than the originals!
I Spit on Your Grave, Last House on the Left, Hills Have Eyes, Halloween I & II, Evil Dead...
As long as people die horribly and painfully...and you show a good lot of it.
Great camera work, editing, sound, and effects.
I'm in!

Why don't you just kill us?


You shouldn't forget the importance of entertainment.

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

That was Johnny Depp.

Kevin Bacon had an arrow shoved through his neck in the first Friday the 13th.

Contrabulous Flabtraption: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So I guess those people never saw RoboCop.

I still refuse to watch that movie again. I saw it when I was 12-ish and the scene of Murphy getting blown to bits bothers me to this day (I'm 34)

What about RoboCop: The Musical?

AeAe: bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.

The first Evil Dead was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. I haven't watched in a long time, so I don't know if it holds up or not.  Just the sense of dread and utter despair throughout the whole thing and the jump scares.  Even the FX were good, if I remember right.  Evil Dead 2 was black comedy/horror.  Still some crazy, scary parts, but a lot more laughs too.

I do want to see this one though.  May have to take a trip to the theatre.

I saw the remake over the weekend, and did conclude that it was more graphic than i'm used to seeing in an R rated flick... They've definitely adjusted their ratings criteria in recent years.   Did Jack Valenti die or something?

FTA: One might expect that with 30 more years of life experience, mainstream acceptance and a longtime marriage with five children, Mr. Raimi would look back on that movie as an early aberration

Sure. If one was a farking idiot that doesn't deserve to have a byline in a newspaper.

A person with a functioning brain would expect that Raimi would look back on that movie as the start of a still popular franchise and the beginning of a long and successful career

Farking idiot.

/didn't bother to read past that part
//that much stupid can be potentially harmfull

Raug the Dwarf: AeAe: bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.

The first Evil Dead was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. I haven't watched in a long time, so I don't know if it holds up or not.  Just the sense of dread and utter despair throughout the whole thing and the jump scares.  Even the FX were good, if I remember right.  Evil Dead 2 was black comedy/horror.  Still some crazy, scary parts, but a lot more laughs too.

I do want to see this one though.  May have to take a trip to the theatre.

See it.  I'm pretty desensitized to horror films but I found myself tensed up for most of this movie.  Effects are top notch and the acting was good.

There's a bunch of people in this thread that didn't like it, but I think that's subjective.  See it and make up your own mind.

Sybarite: I have some Japanese films to show Carl that would make him lose his mind.

But just look how violent that country is!!!

we don't let bloodletting as entertainment??? did he not see the passion of the christ?