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(Washington Times)   Reviewer: Sam Raimi's new Evil Dead is going out in wide release with an R rating is an example of just how far our society has gone off the rails and come to accept bloodletting as entertainment. DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER THE EIGHTIES?   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 102
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2013-04-08 10:21:02 AM  
 Pretty dang much.

It's no "I Spit on Your Grave" but yeah, it's The Evil Dead. Did folks think that it was about sunshine and kittens? It was a film that had its roots in the splatter gore of a LOT of movies previous. Friday the 13th, Halloween, and a brazillion Full Moon movies. Cripes folks, if you don't want to see it, then don't go. No one makes you, you know...
 
2013-04-08 10:48:36 AM  
So I guess those people never saw RoboCop.
 
2013-04-08 10:51:44 AM  
Just another "journalist" who believes the media is to blame for the utter lack of parenting.
 
2013-04-08 10:54:46 AM  
I have some Japanese films to show Carl that would make him lose his mind.
 
2013-04-08 11:30:19 AM  
When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.
 
2013-04-08 11:35:39 AM  
Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.
 
2013-04-08 11:39:17 AM  
I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds
 
2013-04-08 11:39:28 AM  
This is the film Raimi wanted to make but could not afford, so I don't have a problem with it, as I'm sure some fanboys might.

The commentary track with just Bruce Campbell on the original Evil Dead DVD is farking hilarious.
 
2013-04-08 11:40:35 AM  

hubiestubert:  Pretty dang much.

It's no "I Spit on Your Grave" but yeah, it's The Evil Dead. Did folks think that it was about sunshine and kittens? It was a film that had its roots in the splatter gore of a LOT of movies previous. Friday the 13th, Halloween, and a brazillion Full Moon movies. Cripes folks, if you don't want to see it, then don't go. No one makes you, you know...


With the exception of Halloween, I think your chronology is a bit wonky.

/Unless you're referring to the remake
 
2013-04-08 11:40:43 AM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


Errrr...........no.
 
2013-04-08 11:41:31 AM  

Galileo's Daughter: Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.


In general, anyone who denies we accept bloodletting as entertainment simply prefers a form of entertainment where you get to act more shocked when the gore is finally presented.  Humans want to either be repulsed by violence to experience it vicariously and feel safer from it, or they want to laugh at violence to desensitize it and claim power over it.   Only psychopaths aren't rewarded by their brains for seeing violence and either fleeing from it or confronting it.  That's more or less how our brain chemistry works.  Of course we exploit that for profit.
 
2013-04-08 11:41:44 AM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


That was Johnny Depp.
 
2013-04-08 11:42:26 AM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


Are you trolling horror nerds with an incorrect Nightmare on Elm Street reference in a Sam Raimi thread?
 
2013-04-08 11:42:34 AM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


You have your franchises mixed I think.  KB was in Friday the 13th
 
2013-04-08 11:43:52 AM  
Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked
 
2013-04-08 11:44:13 AM  

Jake Havechek: Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

Errrr...........no.


That was Johnny Depp.
 
2013-04-08 11:45:43 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.


What if they ask you if you're a god?
 
2013-04-08 11:46:05 AM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


This is how you piss off multiple horror franchise fans in one sentence.

And this:

farm8.staticflickr.com

is how you piss off multiple sci-fi/fantasy fans in one picture.
 
2013-04-08 11:46:20 AM  
Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.
 
2013-04-08 11:47:21 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: TheShavingofOccam123: When people ask me if I remember the 80's, I just say no.

What if they ask you if you're a god?


If they have to ask....fark em.
 
2013-04-08 11:48:41 AM  

Mr Guy: Galileo's Daughter: Do we as a society accept bloodletting as entertainment?  No, but a subset of the population does (c/f the Saw, Friday the 13th, and Hostel franchises).  Let them watch their movies, and we'll all go see Jurassic Park in 3D.

In general, anyone who denies we accept bloodletting as entertainment simply prefers a form of entertainment where you get to act more shocked when the gore is finally presented.  Humans want to either be repulsed by violence to experience it vicariously and feel safer from it, or they want to laugh at violence to desensitize it and claim power over it.   Only psychopaths aren't rewarded by their brains for seeing violence and either fleeing from it or confronting it.  That's more or less how our brain chemistry works.  Of course we exploit that for profit.


Also, remember this is not real.  Movies are fantasy which transports us from the daily mundane.  We know when we go to see a horror/gore movie that no one was killed, no one was hurt, no matter how realistic it appears.

There were many decapitations in the movie - self-inflicted and otherwise - and the characters kept chugging along while missing an arm.  If that were to happen in RL, that person would immediately pass out from shock and die from blood loss.  Not in the movies!
 
2013-04-08 11:49:33 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked


I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.
 
2013-04-08 11:49:33 AM  

scottydoesntknow: And this:

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x480]

is how you piss off multiple sci-fi/fantasy fans in one picture.


Josh was my favorite character in Lost
 
2013-04-08 11:50:11 AM  
Nobody tell this guy about the dumb "torture porn" thing.
 
2013-04-08 11:50:20 AM  

markfara: Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.


I liked it.  shut up.
 
2013-04-08 11:51:07 AM  
I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.
 
2013-04-08 11:51:43 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Nobody tell this guy about the dumb "torture porn" thing.


The meaningless phrase that prudes use to deride horror films they don't like, you mean? Yeah, we would all be better off without that trite descriptor.
 
2013-04-08 11:52:43 AM  

Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.


No spoilers here, but it's not worth sitting through the credits for (unless you're a total fanboy, in which case you'll laugh yourself silly).
 
2013-04-08 11:54:29 AM  

markfara: Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.


Then why did you see it in the first place?
 
2013-04-08 11:55:41 AM  

Mugato: markfara: Oh, and I saw that piece of sh*t over the weekend. The fact that it's gotten a fair number of good reviews is a sadder commentary on our culture than the amount of blood the film contains.

Then why did you see it in the first place?


Because of the good reviews. I never said I wasn't a sucker. . . .
 
2013-04-08 11:57:55 AM  

About 90 percent of the new film's running time consists of finding brutal and bloody ways to kill a person, including shotgun blasts, nail guns, broken mirror shards, strangulations, drowning, electrocution, burning and live burial. I haven't even mentioned the dungeon full of rotting cat corpses hanging from the ceiling, the dog that has its throat slashed, the moving tree branches that violate a woman (don't ask), and the numerous forced or accidental amputations along the way.



Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?

/I will probably rent this. I cannot get my wife to watch TWD let alone something a little scary.
 
2013-04-08 11:59:44 AM  

Saiga410: About 90 percent of the new film's running time consists of finding brutal and bloody ways to kill a person, including shotgun blasts, nail guns, broken mirror shards, strangulations, drowning, electrocution, burning and live burial. I haven't even mentioned the dungeon full of rotting cat corpses hanging from the ceiling, the dog that has its throat slashed, the moving tree branches that violate a woman (don't ask), and the numerous forced or accidental amputations along the way.


Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?

/I will probably rent this. I cannot get my wife to watch TWD let alone something a little scary.


Honestly, TWD has more scares and suspense than the Evil Dead remake.
 
2013-04-08 12:00:09 PM  

Mr Guy: Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds

Are you trolling horror nerds with an incorrect Nightmare on Elm Street reference in a Sam Raimi thread?


*taps side of nose*
 
2013-04-08 12:01:46 PM  

bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.


If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.
 
2013-04-08 12:03:04 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Bonanza Jellybean: Nobody tell this guy about the dumb "torture porn" thing.

The meaningless phrase that prudes use to deride horror films they don't like, you mean? Yeah, we would all be better off without that trite descriptor.


Ehhh in the same way that porn barely tries to have a plot while cramming in as many sex scenes/excuses to have sex as possible, torture porn doesn't really focus on the plot as much as finding new and crazy ways to kill/dismember people. Saw franchise is a good example of it. The first Saw was pretty bloody, but not over the top (hell you never actually see the guy sawing through his own leg). It was more psychological than anything. But from that point forward, it was just about cramming in crazy ways that people can be tortured and die.

Not deriding anyone by using that term, it's just a way to describe one subset of horror films.
 
2013-04-08 12:03:15 PM  

markfara: Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.

No spoilers here, but it's not worth sitting through the credits for (unless you're a total fanboy, in which case you'll laugh yourself silly).


I giggled like a school girl, thank you very much.  These were the movies that made me a fan of Bruce.  And I would love to see another Army of Darkness.  And since Sam, Bruce and Bob are all producers, they will do it right.
 
2013-04-08 12:08:38 PM  

Apok451: I have been trying to find a still of the after credits scene from the new one, but I haven't had any luck.


I found this.
 
2013-04-08 12:09:29 PM  

Saiga410: Wait, I thought the tree rape was out of this one?


Nope, its not quite what you think it will be nor is it anything exactly like the original but there is some deciduous barking going on.

I saw it... to be honest I thought it was pretty meh. I mean it was ultraviolent, and I do stress ultraviolent but I will credit this the movie used a masterful plot point to start kicking things off and IMHO wasn't used nearly enough.
 
2013-04-08 12:10:05 PM  
I saw this movie Saturday morning at my local Alamo Theater...
I was the ONLY one there that only...the movie played for me and me alone.
Nice!
I loved the farkin thing. It was great...nice new premise, exceptionally brutal...bloody, gory...
And yes, scary!
I'm as pleased as I was when Hills Have Eyes was remade.
It's just like that; more brutality, more blood, more shock than the original.
And that's saying alot!
Keep bringing back these remakes as long as you make em meaner than the originals!
I Spit on Your Grave, Last House on the Left, Hills Have Eyes, Halloween I & II, Evil Dead...
As long as people die horribly and painfully...and you show a good lot of it.
Great camera work, editing, sound, and effects.
I'm in!
 
2013-04-08 12:11:34 PM  

devilEther: scottydoesntknow: And this:

[farm8.staticflickr.com image 640x480]

is how you piss off multiple sci-fi/fantasy fans in one picture.

Josh was my favorite character in Lost


*This is a Rant about Lost, specifically the Ending, the Last Season, Darlton and I Want To Know Why Walt Was Important!*

< This user is well aware that he has been trolled, and is responding to an obvious troll, but this is Lost we're talking about here, so it is rather difficult to avoid being trolled due to the absolutely shiatty nature of the ending and how so many of the supposed "fans" decided to knobgobble Darlton and swallow their messy dropping of "It was about the characters, stupid, not the mystery!" when indeed it was about the mystery since no one really gave a fark who Kate ended up pegging in the end, or why Jack was necessary for anything at all. Really the only relationship anyone cared about was Hurley and Libby, and maybe Ben and John. You know, the relationships where they pulled a Whedon and kept on killing off one of the love interests?
This user is well aware that the common refrain against his argument is "You just wanted all the mysteries answered exactly the way you wanted them to be answered!" which is just one of their phallacies; this user wanted them ANSWERED. He wasn't entirely particular as to the specifics of the answers... beyond not needing to purchase the DVD's for a FREE TV show to get them, or the games, or the books, or exclusive internet content, or anything else where he had to PAY to get the answers. Not cool you twits, not cool.

Anyway.

/sigh. Troll fed.
//Argh. When did simple HTML get so complicated here on Fark? Spent more time trying to make the font White than on typing the rant itself.
 
2013-04-08 12:14:46 PM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: So I guess those people never saw RoboCop.


I still refuse to watch that movie again. I saw it when I was 12-ish and the scene of Murphy getting blown to bits bothers me to this day (I'm 34)
 
2013-04-08 12:15:55 PM  
Why don't you just kill us?
media.salon.com
www.midnightreview.co.uk
You shouldn't forget the importance of entertainment.
 
2013-04-08 12:16:17 PM  

Fano: I recall Kevin bacon getting sucked through a waterbed, then exploding in a fountain of blood that last for at least 10 seconds


That was Johnny Depp.

Kevin Bacon had an arrow shoved through his neck in the first Friday the 13th.
 
2013-04-08 12:20:24 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: The Stealth Hippopotamus: So I guess those people never saw RoboCop.

I still refuse to watch that movie again. I saw it when I was 12-ish and the scene of Murphy getting blown to bits bothers me to this day (I'm 34)


What about RoboCop: The Musical?
 
2013-04-08 12:21:06 PM  

AeAe: bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.


The first Evil Dead was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. I haven't watched in a long time, so I don't know if it holds up or not.  Just the sense of dread and utter despair throughout the whole thing and the jump scares.  Even the FX were good, if I remember right.  Evil Dead 2 was black comedy/horror.  Still some crazy, scary parts, but a lot more laughs too.

I do want to see this one though.  May have to take a trip to the theatre.
 
2013-04-08 12:21:49 PM  
I saw the remake over the weekend, and did conclude that it was more graphic than i'm used to seeing in an R rated flick... They've definitely adjusted their ratings criteria in recent years.   Did Jack Valenti die or something?
 
2013-04-08 12:23:55 PM  
FTA: One might expect that with 30 more years of life experience, mainstream acceptance and a longtime marriage with five children, Mr. Raimi would look back on that movie as an early aberration

Sure. If one was a farking idiot that doesn't deserve to have a byline in a newspaper.

A person with a functioning brain would expect that Raimi would look back on that movie as the start of a still popular franchise and the beginning of a long and successful career

Farking idiot.

/didn't bother to read past that part
//that much stupid can be potentially harmfull
 
2013-04-08 12:24:36 PM  

Raug the Dwarf: AeAe: bborchar: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eh, it was actually pretty tame by modern horror standards.

/also it sucked

I'll just stick with the original.  I laughed so hard when watching it, I don't think any remake could top it.

If by "the original", you mean Evil Dead 2.  Evil Dead 1 was a straight horror film.  I don't recall any funny moments there.

This remake had no humorous moments... except for the duct tape.

The first Evil Dead was one of the scariest movies I've ever seen. I haven't watched in a long time, so I don't know if it holds up or not.  Just the sense of dread and utter despair throughout the whole thing and the jump scares.  Even the FX were good, if I remember right.  Evil Dead 2 was black comedy/horror.  Still some crazy, scary parts, but a lot more laughs too.

I do want to see this one though.  May have to take a trip to the theatre.


See it.  I'm pretty desensitized to horror films but I found myself tensed up for most of this movie.  Effects are top notch and the acting was good.

There's a bunch of people in this thread that didn't like it, but I think that's subjective.  See it and make up your own mind.
 
2013-04-08 12:25:52 PM  

Sybarite: I have some Japanese films to show Carl that would make him lose his mind.


But just look how violent that country is!!!
 
2013-04-08 12:28:09 PM  
we don't let bloodletting as entertainment??? did he not see the passion of the christ?
 
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