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2013-04-08 09:47:17 AM
Because he's attractive and successful?
 
2013-04-08 09:56:22 AM

Elegy: Because he's attractive and successful?


Nothing against Mr. Z, but really?  I don't see it.
 
2013-04-08 10:52:51 AM
Because he was lucky enough to make it. There are tons and tons and oceans filled with people way more talented than him. But only so many people can make it. Not to mention in the actual rap game, he was lampooned
Then he must've been good at schmoozing, because he was given the CEO title.

And now? Now he has so much money he can pursue interests, like sports. Which he'll probably excel in, because #lolJayZ is representing him.

Let's not pretend that lucking your way up in entertainment is the same as building an empire through intelligent business decisions.

Because that's the key ingredient; luck.
If that makes you mad, then you've made it and don't want to attribute it to anything except how great you think you are.
 
2013-04-08 10:56:51 AM

Diogenes: Elegy: Because he's attractive and successful?

Nothing against Mr. Z, but really?  I don't see it.


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2013-04-08 11:06:28 AM
I think his signing of Robinson Cano was brilliant.  He partnered with a heavy-hitting MLB agent who 99% of the population has never heard of, but represents Ryan Braun, Ryan Zimmerman, Matt Cain, and Ryan Howard.  They handle the baseball stuff, without any of the negative reputation Scott Boras (deservedly) brings.

What Jay-Z can do is keep his client in the limelight.  Robinson Cano is the best player on the Yankees by far, but he hasn't crossed over as a "star" outside of New York and baseball circles.  Ask random housewives in Iowa to name a Yankee, and they name Derek Jeter and A-Rod.  Within a year or two, expect Cano to be a 'guest' on all kinds of TV talk shows, promotions, award shows, etc.  Expect random rappers to name-check him.  Expect a line of clothing with his name on it.  Etc.

Cano will learn what Michael Jordan, Shaquille O-Neal, and (pre-scandal) Tiger Woods learned-- for all the money and fame you can find on the field, there's much more to be made off the field, and it doesn't shut off the day you can't play.

Cano's English isn't great.  He can handle an interview, but his accent is thick and he reaches for words.  But I'd bet Univision and Telemundo would love to air ads featuring Cano, and they're big markets and growing fast.  Plus, he's a smart guy by all accounts, and it's easier to teach the best 2B in baseball some English marketing skills than it is to teach some charismatic guy to hit 30 HR and play midlde infield.

The downside of this is that the Yankees might be below .500 this year, and he won't carry the same prestige as he would a decade or so ago.
 
2013-04-08 11:19:47 AM
"From Leonardo da Vinci to Jay-Z, history's great Renaissance men... "

Holy shiatballs, tell me this idiot is kidding.
 
2013-04-08 11:19:54 AM

sure haven't: Because he was lucky enough to make it. There are tons and tons and oceans filled with people way more talented than him. But only so many people can make it. Not to mention in the actual rap game, he was lampooned. Then he must've been good at schmoozing, because he was given the CEO title.


Poe's Law, but:  Huh?  Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion.  Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game.  Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers.  You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit.  You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.
 
2013-04-08 11:33:36 AM

chimp_ninja: Poe's Law, but: Huh? Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion. Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game. Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers. You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit. You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.


At no point did you mention the quality of his music, which is some of the most atrocious overrated sh*t in modern entertainment. His sales numbers and net worth are inflated press release points used to impress gullible hero-worshipers like you. He's a fraud who's married to a fat, dumb stripper.
 
2013-04-08 11:37:13 AM

chimp_ninja: You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit.  You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire

 Beyonce's vag-jay-jay.
 
2013-04-08 11:44:40 AM

chimp_ninja: The downside of this is that the Yankees might be below .500 this year, and he won't carry the same prestige as he would a decade or so ago.


I think he goes to the Dodgers at some point.
 
2013-04-08 12:59:20 PM

REO-Weedwagon: chimp_ninja: Poe's Law, but: Huh? Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion. Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game. Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers. You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit. You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.

At no point did you mention the quality of his music, which is some of the most atrocious overrated sh*t in modern entertainment. His sales numbers and net worth are inflated press release points used to impress gullible hero-worshipers like you. He's a fraud who's married to a fat, dumb stripper.


I'm not sure anymore, but his first several major albums were fantastic and received (well deserved) critical acclaim.
 
2013-04-08 01:22:48 PM

REO-Weedwagon: At no point did you mention the quality of his music, which is some of the most atrocious overrated sh*t in modern entertainment. His sales numbers and net worth are inflated press release points used to impress gullible hero-worshipers like you. He's a fraud who's married to a fat, dumb stripper.


And yet, he's received critical acclaim throughout his career.  There are 4 people with more Grammy nominations (Quincy Jones, Georg Solti, Chick Corea, John Williams).  The Blueprint and/or Reasonable Doubt tends to make most "Best Rap Album Ever" lists.  Rolling Stone put him on their list of 100 greatest musicians.  He's been active for two decades in an occupation where most artists are successful for an album or two.  If you have a better criterion for what makes a successful artist other than "I just don't like those people him.", name it.

I'm also sorry Beyonce's knees are too un-sharp for you.  I'm sure she's crying into the "Sexiest Woman of the 21st Century" trophy she just won from GQ.
 
2013-04-08 02:04:28 PM
Because he has 99 problems but a biatch aint one?
 
2013-04-08 02:23:49 PM

REO-Weedwagon: chimp_ninja: Poe's Law, but: Huh? Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion. Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game. Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers. You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit. You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.

At no point did you mention the quality of his music, which is some of the most atrocious overrated sh*t in modern entertainment. His sales numbers and net worth are inflated press release points used to impress gullible hero-worshipers like you. He's a fraud who's married to a fat, dumb stripper.

I'm a racist who hates rap music.

Summarized for you.
 
2013-04-08 02:58:54 PM

chimp_ninja: sure haven't: Because he was lucky enough to make it. There are tons and tons and oceans filled with people way more talented than him. But only so many people can make it. Not to mention in the actual rap game, he was lampooned. Then he must've been good at schmoozing, because he was given the CEO title.

Poe's Law, but:  Huh?  Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion.  Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game.  Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers.  You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit.  You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.


Actually, you sort of do, at least initially. He enjoyed some very strong successes with a few early singles but that is precisely where the luck stops. What he's done is parlayed his original take on those singles into a bona-fide empire, and there is nothing lucky about that.

As for your first paragraph, who do you think brought you the oldies? The Ice Cubes and D.O.Cs? The Snoop Do-double-g's and the group that said motherf*ck the police?
 
2013-04-08 03:32:33 PM
I still prefer ODB.
 
2013-04-08 03:40:19 PM

chimp_ninja: sure haven't: Because he was lucky enough to make it. There are tons and tons and oceans filled with people way more talented than him. But only so many people can make it. Not to mention in the actual rap game, he was lampooned. Then he must've been good at schmoozing, because he was given the CEO title.

Poe's Law, but:  Huh?  Dude started his own label from nothing in 1995, and now he's worth half a billion.  Name another rapper with a nationally-known profile after 18 years-- it's a young man's game.  Aside from a couple guys with roles on random cop shows, who is still relevant from back then?

He's arguably the most successful rapper of all time, and he has the critical acclaim to back up the sales numbers.  You "luck" yourself into a novelty single becoming a hit.  You don't "luck" yourself into Jay-Z's empire.


We only remember the success.

CSB time:

A kid I played baseball with in high school currently plays professional baseball (and is fairly successful). It's a fun story to tell that, "I knew so-and-so way back when." What most people don't know is that another kid I played baseball in high school was drafted out of college.

Talk to either one of them before they made it; they were both going to play pro-ball. That was their dream, their goal, their life's mission. While one of them is currently living the dream; the other is...well, I have no idea (I just know he played low single A ball for a couple years, put up some terrible numbers and that was it).

For every "Jay-Z", there is another 100,000 people,  who believed with every fiber of their being, that they were were going to make it....but never did. I'm not going to discount Jay-Z's brains, work ethic, or business sense, but realize that luck plays a big part in that equation.
 
2013-04-08 04:59:54 PM

KFBR392: For every "Jay-Z", there is another 100,000 people, who believed with every fiber of their being, that they were were going to make it....but never did. I'm not going to discount Jay-Z's brains, work ethic, or business sense, but realize that luck plays a big part in that equation.


Can you (or someone else here) explain how luck came into play with Jay-Z? I don't see how it wasn't his rapping skill, lyrics, work ethic, and business sense that got him where he is now. Did he win some sort of "have your tape promoted" contest or something?
 
2013-04-08 06:52:51 PM
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2013-04-08 07:56:56 PM

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Came here for this, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-04-08 08:13:00 PM

sure haven't: Not to mention in the actual rap game, he was lampooned


Then he released what is widely considered among the best rap albums of all time (and his initial one is up there for most people as well... there was admittedly a bunch of garbage in between, but fark - thats better than most people do in the rap game).
 
2013-04-08 11:53:45 PM
He's a mobster. I'll guarantee he eventually spends time in prison. We saw his tactics when his lip syncing wife gave birth to Purple Daisy or whatever name they bestowed on her for commercial reasons. The actions of his thugs at that hospital should never be forgotten.
 
2013-04-09 04:21:18 AM

skrame: KFBR392: For every "Jay-Z", there is another 100,000 people, who believed with every fiber of their being, that they were were going to make it....but never did. I'm not going to discount Jay-Z's brains, work ethic, or business sense, but realize that luck plays a big part in that equation.

Can you (or someone else here) explain how luck came into play with Jay-Z? I don't see how it wasn't his rapping skill, lyrics, work ethic, and business sense that got him where he is now. Did he win some sort of "have your tape promoted" contest or something?


there can only be so much superstars, and there are 100 000's people who are talented enough to make that job.
Therefor, luck must play the biggest role in who get's to be the superstar.

The only thing he got right is he didn't blow it on blow after his first hits, but went on
 
2013-04-09 09:11:20 AM

On-Off: there can only be so much superstars, and there are 100 000's people who are talented enough to make that job.
Therefor, luck must play the biggest role in who get's to be the superstar.


You sound poor and/or fat.
 
2013-04-09 10:50:36 AM

chimp_ninja: On-Off: there can only be so much superstars, and there are 100 000's people who are talented enough to make that job.
Therefor, luck must play the biggest role in who get's to be the superstar.

You sound poor and/or fat.


No, he sounds 100% correct.

/other than *gets
 
2013-04-09 06:26:40 PM
Because it takes money to make money, and suckers gave him a shiatload of it for his "music" which he wisely reinvested instead of blowing it on his "entourage", which usually consists of people who love to spend your money but never stick around when it's gone?

Whatever I think of his "talent", he has great business sense.
 
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